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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #523 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, April 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 523 In this issue: -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu -áááááá MtMan-List: brass shims -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Do you speak Apache? (O.T.) -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Do you speak Apache? (O.T.) -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes -áááááá MtMan-List: 32 bullet mold -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: brass shims -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu -áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Mike Rock -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: David Thompsn - Expedition 2000 - The Passage -áááááá MtMan-List: Ropes - Chuck Streeper -áááááá MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:57:28 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu In a message dated 4/16/00 1:53:13 PM, rtlahti@email.msn.com writes: << Are his shoes pre-1840? I'm sure his mocs would be fine. It is not tough groun >> Ho Capt, I think his moc's are gonna be OK..... provided they just don't fall apart. His hand sewin is even worse than mine, if you can believe that. We're taking two canoe's in to the rondy, but thinking we may have to air drop some stuff in if we stay more than a couple days....<G> <<<How did the paper cups work for you? As compared to the plastic cups ( that leave plastic in your bore )<G>? You know I couldn't see the difference between the two....kinda made a mod. choke out of the cyl bore.... but more flyers than I liked, and some holes in the pattern. I couldn't feel any melted plastic in the bore(had a card and wad under the cup) and the plastic cup looked none the worse for the wear... I'd sure like to have that fusil choked to mod.....but then I guess ya can't shoot round balls then. The thing to do is just build a 12ga double barrel flintlock, I've got all the stuff, but I'm just not that handy yet.... The wool pull over is done and you'll be impressed! I should be outta the detox center in time for the Frog.....<G> Ymos, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:59:58 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: brass shims Thanks John Funk! I got the brass shims and just in the nick of time... Gonna go terrorize the turkeys this weekend with a tight hammer. Ymos, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:27:25 -0500 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes - --=====================_76181112==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Nope that was Len Brown & Lisa Dawes out of Nevada, MO. I ran into them in Grand Junction on the way to the AMM in southern Colorado that year and gave them directions to Hickerson. The came riding in across the swamp. John... At 04:48 PM 4/19/00 -0600, you wrote: >John, >I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at >Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful >Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in >the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy! >YMOS >Ole >---------- "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson - --=====================_76181112==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> Nope that was Len Brown & Lisa Dawes out of Nevada, MO. I ran into them in Grand Junction on the way to the AMM in southern Colorado that year and gave them directions to Hickerson. The came riding in across the swamp. John... At 04:48 PM 4/19/00 -0600, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite cite>John, I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy! YMOS Ole - ----------</blockquote> "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson </html> - --=====================_76181112==_.ALT-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:47:56 -0500 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Do you speak Apache? (O.T.) - --=====================_80537673==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The AMM History Committee would greatly appreciate the assistance of a computer wizard. We should be able to do all we need to do on-line. We are talking about a significant encroachment on your time. You do not need to be a member or even old to help on this project it is SQL/WAN/WEB skills we need. We (The History Committee) are compiling the first History of AMM and need to establish web available SQL, FTP, & WEB services to aid pre-press production. Linux or FreeBSD, Apache and such is what we need to deal with. Hopefully what we create will be so useful it will be continued and expanded as the decades of AMM History unfold and are compiled. Would you like to help? Additionally we need someone expert in the use of PhotoShop (or similar program) to "improve" poor quality snapshots at high resolution. We only want to improve the viewing and reproduction quality of the originals we have -- not change what they show. No promised reward other than our undying gratitude, a mention in the credits and a hearty hand shake if we ever meet. If you are interested in assisting this project please contact me off-list to discuss the details. John... <kramer@kramerize.com> AMM Historian "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson - --=====================_80537673==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> The AMM History Committee would greatly appreciate the assistance of a computer wizard. We should be able to do all we need to do on-line. We are talking about a significant encroachment on your time. You do not need to be a member or even old to help on this project it is SQL/WAN/WEB skills we need. We (The History Committee) are compiling the first History of AMM and need to establish web available SQL, FTP, & WEB services to aid pre-press production. Linux or FreeBSD, Apache and such is what we need to deal with. Hopefully what we create will be so useful it will be continued and expanded as the decades of AMM History unfold and are compiled. Would you like to help? Additionally we need someone expert in the use of PhotoShop (or similar program) to "improve" poor quality snapshots at high resolution. We only want to improve the viewing and reproduction quality of the originals we have -- not change what they show. No promised reward other than our undying gratitude, a mention in the credits and a hearty hand shake if we ever meet. If you are interested in assisting this project please contact me off-list to discuss the details. John... <kramer@kramerize.com> AMM Historian "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson </html> - --=====================_80537673==_.ALT-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:43:32 -0400 From: michael pierce <hawknest4@juno.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu steve--- why dont you jug choke that gun---would shoot round ball and shot---contact FFFG or myself if you want more info--- HAWK michael pierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:48:14 -0600 From: <conner1@uswest.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Do you speak Apache? (O.T.) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------F9CE6B49F3B8065FEB874D32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------01B9F7D44B4A4FD736E46530" - --------------01B9F7D44B4A4FD736E46530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kramer wrote: > The AMM History Committee would greatly appreciate the > assistance of a computer wizard. > > We should be able to do all we need to do on-line. > > We are talking about a significant encroachment on your > time. > > You do not need to be a member or even old to help on this > project it is SQL/WAN/WEB skills we need. > > We (The History Committee) are compiling the first History > of AMM and need to establish web available SQL, FTP, & WEB > services to aid pre-press production. Linux or FreeBSD, > Apache and such is what we need to deal with. Hopefully > what we create will be so useful it will be continued and > expanded as the decades of AMM History unfold and are > compiled. Would you like to help? > > Additionally we need someone expert in the use of > PhotoShop (or similar program) to "improve" poor quality > snapshots at high resolution. We only want to improve the > viewing and reproduction quality of the originals we have > -- not change what they show. > > No promised reward other than our undying gratitude, a > mention in the credits > and a hearty hand shake if we ever meet. > > If you are interested in assisting this project please > contact me off-list to discuss the details. > > John... <kramer@kramerize.com> > AMM Historian > > "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to > against every government on Earth... and what no just > government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson > > > John, Go through the AMM web page @Dean's, go to the Baker Party, from there contact Bill the webmaster for that site, he maybe able to help you. He's done an excellent job on the party site. Later Buck - --------------01B9F7D44B4A4FD736E46530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> John Kramer wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>The AMM History Committee would greatly appreciate the assistance of a computer wizard. We should be able to do all we need to do on-line. We are talking about a significant encroachment on your time. You do not need to be a member or even old to help on this project it is SQL/WAN/WEB skills we need. We (The History Committee) are compiling the first History of AMM and need to establish web available SQL, FTP, & WEB services to aid pre-press production. Linux or FreeBSD, Apache and such is what we need to deal with. Hopefully what we create will be so useful it will be continued and expanded as the decades of AMM History unfold and are compiled. Would you like to help? Additionally we need someone expert in the use of PhotoShop (or similar program) to "improve" poor quality snapshots at high resolution. We only want to improve the viewing and reproduction quality of the originals we have -- not change what they show. No promised reward other than our undying gratitude, a mention in the credits and a hearty hand shake if we ever meet. If you are interested in assisting this project please contact me off-list to discuss the details. John... <kramer@kramerize.com> AMM Historian "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson </blockquote> John, Go through the AMM web page @Dean's, go to the Baker Party, from there contact Bill the webmaster for that site, he maybe able to help you. He's done an excellent job on the party site. Later Buck </html> - --------------01B9F7D44B4A4FD736E46530-- - --------------F9CE6B49F3B8065FEB874D32 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for â─ïÄ¿ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------F9CE6B49F3B8065FEB874D32-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:56:26 -0600 From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3039062187_41111_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit John, Yea, that's him. Ole - ---------- From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 10:27 PM Nope that was Len Brown & Lisa Dawes out of Nevada, MO. I ran into them in Grand Junction on the way to the AMM in southern Colorado that year and gave them directions to Hickerson. The came riding in across the swamp. John... At 04:48 PM 4/19/00 -0600, you wrote: John, I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy! YMOS Ole - ---------- "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." --Thomas Jefferson - --MS_Mac_OE_3039062187_41111_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: MtMan-List: ropes</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#FFFFFF"> John, Yea, that's him. Ole - ---------- From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 10:27 PM <BLOCKQUOTE>Nope that was Len Brown & Lisa Dawes out of Nevada, MO. &nb= sp;I ran into them in Grand Junction on the way to the AMM in southern Color= ado that year and gave them directions to Hickerson. The came riding in acro= ss the swamp. John... At 04:48 PM 4/19/00 -0600, you wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE>John, I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hic= kerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Hors= e about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend= of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy! YMOS Ole </BLOCKQUOTE>---------- "A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every = government on Earth... and what no just government should refuse." &nbs= p;--Thomas Jefferson </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML> - --MS_Mac_OE_3039062187_41111_MIME_Part-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:21:46 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" <ad.miller@mindspring.com> Subject: MtMan-List: 32 bullet mold As I remember, someone was asking about a .32 cal bullet mold. There is one on AuctionArms... (not mine) http://216.25.120.66/search/displayitem.cfm?ItemNum=4788130612 Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:55:15 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." <J2Hearts@norcalis.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: brass shims My pleasure, Steve. Glad to be able to help. Good luck. John Funk - ----- Original Message ----- From: <SWcushing@aol.com> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: MtMan-List: brass shims > Thanks John Funk! I got the brass shims and just in the nick of time... Gonna > go terrorize the turkeys this weekend with a tight hammer. > > Ymos, > Steve > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:45:55 -0700 From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu - ----- Original Message ----- From: <SWcushing@aol.com> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Frog/shot cu> I think his moc's are gonna be OK..... provided they just don't fall apart. > His hand sewin is even worse than mine, if you can believe that. We're taking > two canoe's in to the rondy, but thinking we may have to air drop some stuff > in if we stay more than a couple days....<G> Steve, Why so much stuff? As though we aren't taking plenty! <G> Wait until you see the overloaded canoes and such go in. You won't think your taking much. > You know I couldn't see the difference between the two....kinda made a mod. > choke out of the cyl bore.... but more flyers than I liked, and some holes in > the pattern. I couldn't feel any melted plastic in the bore(had a card and > wad under the cup) and the plastic cup looked none the worse for the wear... > I'd sure like to have that fusil choked to mod.....but then I guess ya can't > shoot round balls then. The thing to do is just build a 12ga double barrel > flintlock, I've got all the stuff, but I'm just not that handy yet.... So you have tried both plastic and paper shot cups? Is that what your saying you couldn't find any difference between? I will have to get out again and try many different combos myself including no shot cup at all. > > The wool pull over is done and you'll be impressed! I should be outta the > detox center in time for the Frog.....<G> So that is why buckskinners drink so heavy. My buddy Tom and I imbibe but we don't like drunks and so that is why we camp where we do. See ya next week. I remain...... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:21:49 -0700 From: Randal J Bublitz <randybublitz@juno.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Mike Rock Are you out there Mike??? I lost your e-mail address in a crash, and many others. Please get in touch with me off list. We are firming up canoe trip plans. hardtack- randybublitz@juno.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:44:02 EDT From: Wind1838@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: David Thompsn - Expedition 2000 - The Passage A Mr. Pat Harbine, is planning an expedition to retrace the travels of David Thompson as written in his journals between 1804-1811. It will be a group of between eight and 12 paddlers in single and tandem kayaks. They will travel 750 miles in 23 days. The trip begins July 29 at Bonners Ferry, Idaho and will travel north to Kinabasket Lake in British Columbia. The cost is $450 and participants supply their own gear (can rent kayak, canoe) and food. Anyone interested may contact Mr. Harbine at oldharb@aol.com. His phone number is 509-468-0954. He will send you an itinerary. Participants can travel the whole passage, or partial. Laura Glise Wind1838@aol.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:45:29 -0400 From: Terry Behm <TBehm@compuserve.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Ropes - Chuck Streeper John Kramer wrote: >Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82? If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and = panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack or ride any= horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along th= e trail. Clever solutions not high tech. Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met. John... < John, I'm sure that was the guy's name when we visited with him at Fort Bridger, I have a photo of you two standing together, I'll have to see if I can find it. He was traveling across the country and would switch = horses every few hours. Terry Behm - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:00:28 -0500 From: jerry derringer <mtnman50@kiva.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Evening! Ran across an article from an old triple-a mag & it had a piece on Lewis & Clark trail, some folks took a boat & retraced part of their journey. Got me a wonderin... anyone have any knowledge of a special doins (such as retracing their footsteps) for their 200 anniversary & who to contact for that info? Seems that would be a shinin time to me. jerry - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:44:52 -0600 From: <conner1@uswest.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------73DF4133B98DE4DED589753F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jerry derringer wrote: > Evening! > Ran across an article from an old triple-a mag & it had a piece on Lewis & Clark > trail, some folks took a boat & retraced part of their journey. Got me a > wonderin... anyone have any knowledge of a special doins (such as retracing > their footsteps) for their 200 anniversary & who to contact for that info? Seems > that would be a shinin time to me. > jerry Jerry, I was contacted about such an event and asked if interested, which I am - said they would get back to me first of June. I'll let you know, have heard of several other groups making plans, nothing firm ? Several of us have done the whole journey, but one piece of the Columbia - was hoping that would be where one of these groups would want to have such an event. Later Buck - --------------73DF4133B98DE4DED589753F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for â─ïÄ¿ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------73DF4133B98DE4DED589753F-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #523 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.