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hist_text-digest Wednesday, April 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 522
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade
-áááááá MtMan-List: question?? new topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: question?? new topic
-áááááá MtMan-List: Rope
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:47:39 -0400
From: "D Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
Ad,
Buck Conner of Clark & Son's has some good parched Blue Corn.... It was a
little high in salt for my taste, but after a rinsin and dryin', it was
perfect.. I have been grinding it into "rockahominy" Damned gud stuuf,
that...
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements
http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
"Knowing how is just the beginning"
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:45:32 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
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jc60714@navix.net wrote:
> Washtahay-
> At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old
> >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to pay
> >for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
> >That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this
> >gentleman, originally from CA ?
> sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe.
> LongWalker c. du B.
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Thank you - that's him, do you know if he's still involved?
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:48:14 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
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Addison Miller wrote:
> Ok... I give up. Tried making parched corn and all I got was burned
> nuggets... Did as was suggested. Did not want to wait for ear corn to dry,
> so I used frozen and put it in the dehydrator. After that, skillet with just
> a bit of salt, and derned if I didn't burn it... GRRRRRRRRRRRR......... My
> question is (finally)... Where the hell can I just buy some parched cord???
>
> *grins*
>
> Thanks....
>
> Ad Miller
>
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We handle "blue parched corn", Clark & Sons Mercantile at:
http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/
later,
Buck
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:22:48 -0500
From: Glenn Darilek <llsi@texas.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members
> > conner1@uswest.net wrote:
> > Of course I saw a guy for the first time in 10-12 years a few weeks ago and he still looked and >dressed the same with the
> chrome tanned skins and fringe as long as that Remington >mountainman. We invited him to a woodswalk, but got turned down
> (campman), he would have >been hog-tied in the first 75-100 yards with his own fringe.
You are criticising the length of the fringe, not the fringe, right? Alfred Jacob Miller drew plenty of fringe.
Glenn Darilek
Iron Burner
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:01:12 -0600
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
I know Chuck, will write about him later today if time permits
Joe
Have a look at our web site @ www.dteworld.com/absarokawesterndesign/
Call us about our tanning, furs & leather and lodgepole furniture 307-455-2440
New leather wildlife coasters and placemats - ther're great!!
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:04:01 -0500
From: "Henry B. Crawford" <mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
Subject: MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade
>There's a new article by James A. Hanson, "The Myth of the Silk Hat and
>the End >of the Rendezvous". Jim has learned his craft well following in
>the footsteps of >his famous father, not only a skilled researcher but an
>outstanding writer.
Jim's PhD in History doesn't hurt either. :-)
>To read this article friends you better be a member of the Museum of the
>Fur >Trade ! Well it's about time to sign up and get this issue of their
>"Quarterly"
>journal, talk is cheap. Like the name implies "Quarterly" is the number of
>>issues you'll receive for the grand sum of $10.00
For an additional 8 bucks get the 40 page history of the Museum, full of
great color pix of pieces in the collection and a great narrative. Every
member ought to have one. Allow some time, because Gail Potter the MFT
Director is the only paid staff and, although she has volunteers, she has
her hands pretty full. It's worth the wait.
Order your membership now and get the invitation to this years annual
Chadron Fur Trade Days rondy. I just spoke to Gail and she says they're
expecting a pretty large camp.
Cheers,
HBC
**********************************
Henry B. Crawford
Curator of History
Museum of Texas Tech University
Box 43191
Lubbock, TX 79409-3191
mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu
806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136
Website: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:43:40 -0400
From: "John Hunt" <jhunt1@one.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: question?? new topic
Greetings knowledgeable list members, esteemed friends, ect, ect.
I got a question to ask. Last nite at work I was talking to an outside
contractor about our hobby "life style". He was telling me he has several
hundred acres in southeast ohio. He was walking with a timber buyer. There
are "numerous caves and over hangs" on the property, they were looking at
some of them. Inside of several the timberbuyer pointed out some marks on
the rocks and told the owner that these marks were used by the Indians in a
manner that we use a road map today. He called them "navigational aids".
Their were very faint traces of coloring left.
Now the question. Has anyone ever heard of this or was hot air being blown
up someone`s butt?
The land owner said the timber buyer talked quite a bit about this but the
conversation was above his understanding on this subject.
John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
Longhunter
Mountainman
southwest Ohio
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:53:32 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <ad.miller@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: question?? new topic
Gee... sounds like a great place for a Ronny!!!!!
Ad Miller
He was telling me he has several
> hundred acres in southeast ohio. He was walking with a timber buyer. There
> are "numerous caves and over hangs" on the property, they were looking at
> some of them.
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:23:47 -0600
From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" <leona3@favorites.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Rope
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Mr Conner wrote:
Chuck can't remember his last name - Striker maybe, use to write for =
Baird
years ago in Buckskin Report, did an article on fur trade rope, Hanson
though he did pretty good, I'll look for that too,=20
If I could get a copy of that also I would be obliged. I have wondered =
if the manilla stuff they sell now days was acceptable for horse packing =
and long ties. Kinda hate to put a hard to make or expensive horse hair =
or rawhide rope to such rough useage.
YMOS
WY
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:16:33 -0500
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
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Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82?
If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and=20
panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack or ride any=20
horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the=
=20
trail. Clever solutions not high tech.
Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.
John...
At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Washtahay-
>At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an=
old
> >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to=
pay
> >for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
> >That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember=
this
> >gentleman, originally from CA ?
> sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe.
>LongWalker c. du B.
John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0
Kramer's Best Antique Improver
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<
<http://www.kramerize.com/>
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<font size=3D3>Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in
'81 or '82?<br>
<br>
If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and
panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack
or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs
quickly along the trail. Clever solutions not high tech.<br>
<br>
Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.<br>
<br>
John...<br>
<br>
<br>
At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite cite>Washtahay-<br>
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:<br>
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of
an old<br>
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks
to pay<br>
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.<br>
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember
this<br>
>gentleman, originally from CA ?<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>sounds
like Chuck Streeper. Maybe.<br>
LongWalker c. du B.</font></blockquote><br>
<div>John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0</div>
<br>
<div>Kramer's Best Antique Improver</div>
<div>>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<</div>
<div>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<</div>
<br>
<div><<a href=3D"http://www.kramerize.com/"=
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<div>mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com> </div>
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:48:13 -0600
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
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John,
I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at
Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful
Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the
bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy!
YMOS
Ole
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From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM
Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82?
If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and
panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack or ride any
horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the
trail. Clever solutions not high tech.
Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.
John...
At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
Washtahay-
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to p=
ay
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this
>gentleman, originally from CA ?
sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe.
LongWalker c. du B.
John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0
Kramer's Best Antique Improver
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<
<http://www.kramerize.com/ <http://www.kramerize.com/> >
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John,<BR>
I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hic=
kerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Hors=
e about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend=
of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy!<BR>
YMOS<BR>
Ole<BR>
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From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com><BR>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com<BR>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes<BR>
Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 o=
r '82?<BR>
<BR>
If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and pann=
iers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack or ride =
any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along t=
he trail. Clever solutions not high tech.<BR>
<BR>
Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.<BR>
<BR>
John...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Washtahay-<BR>
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:<BR>
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an =
old<BR>
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks t=
o pay<BR>
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.<BR>
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember t=
his<BR>
>gentleman, originally from CA ?<BR>
sounds like Chuck Streeper.=
Maybe.<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE>LongWalker c. du B.<BR>
<BR>
John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0<BR>
<BR>
Kramer's Best Antique Improver<BR>
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<<BR>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<<BR>
<BR>
<<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.kramerize.com/</U></FONT> <<FONT=
COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.kramerize.com/</U></FONT>> ><BR>
<BR>
mail to: <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>kramer@kramerize.com</U></FONT>> <=
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:42:11 -0400
From: tipis@mediaone.net
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Is he the one with the dogs that traveled along with him? He has a
cabin in Wyoming or MOntana and lives like a Mountain Man???
Holley
"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:
> John,
> I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up
> at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a
> Beautiful Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to
> your camp in the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy!
> YMOS
> Ole
> ----------
> From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
> Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM
>
>
>
> Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in
> '81 or '82?
>
> If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd
> made) and panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He
> could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same
> equipment or switch packs quickly along the trail. Clever
> solutions not high tech.
>
> Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.
>
> John...
>
>
> At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Washtahay-
> At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >So visiting with him for several days he started
> making rope out of an old
> >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample
> and gave history talks to pay
> >for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
> >That's where the piece came from that I have,
> anyone know or remember this
> >gentleman, originally from CA ?
> sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe.
>
> LongWalker c. du B.
>
> John T. Kramer, maker of:
>
> Kramer's Best Antique Improver
> >>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
> >>>As good as old!<<<
>
> <http://www.kramerize.com/ <http://www.kramerize.com/> >
>
> mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com>
>
>
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Is he the one with the dogs that traveled along with him? He has
a cabin in Wyoming or MOntana and lives like a Mountain Man???
<p>Holley
<p>"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>John,
<br>I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up
at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful
Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in
the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy!
<br>YMOS
<br>Ole
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<br>From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
<br>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
<br>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
<br>Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM
<br>
<br>
<blockquote>Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81
or '82?
<p>If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and
panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack
or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly
along the trail. Clever solutions not high tech.
<p>Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.
<p>John...
<br>
<p>At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
<blockquote>Washtahay-
<br>At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
<br>>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of
an old
<br>>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks
to pay
<br>>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
<br>>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember
this
<br>>gentleman, originally from CA ?
<br> sounds like Chuck Streeper.
Maybe.</blockquote>
LongWalker c. du B.
<p>John T. Kramer, maker of:
<p>Kramer's Best Antique Improver
<br>>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
<br> >>>As good as old!<<<
<p><<u><font color="#0000FF"><A HREF="http://www.kramerize.com/">http://www.kramerize.com/</A></font></u> <<u><font color="#0000FF"><A HREF="http://www.kramerize.com/">http://www.kramerize.com/</A></font></u>>
>
<p>mail to: <<u><font color="#0000FF">kramer@kramerize.com</font></u>>
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:48:09 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
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John Kramer wrote:
> Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in
> '81 or '82?
>
> If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles
> (he'd made) and panniers (packs). every horse had its
> saddle. He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with
> the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the
> trail. Clever solutions not high tech.
>
> Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.
>
> John...
That's him John, the date was 1982, he would ride each horse
approx. 4 hours then switch very quickly to the fresh
animal. He said when he rode the last horse for its period
of time, it was time to setup camp after a 12 hour day. Like
you say pretty slick.
Later
Buck
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John Kramer wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font size=+0>Would this be the guy that rode into
Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82?</font>
<p><font size=+0>If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles
(he'd made) and panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle.
He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch
packs quickly along the trail. Clever solutions not high tech.</font>
<p><font size=+0>Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.</font>
<p><font size=+0>John...</font></blockquote>
That's him John, the date was 1982, he would ride each horse approx. 4
hours then switch very quickly to the fresh animal. He said when he rode
the last horse for its period of time, it was time to setup camp after
a 12 hour day. Like you say pretty slick.
<p>Later
<br>Buck</html>
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:52:16 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members
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Glenn Darilek wrote:
> > > conner1@uswest.net wrote:
>
> > > Of course I saw a guy for the first time in 10-12 years a few weeks ago and he still looked and >dressed the same with the
> > chrome tanned skins and fringe as long as that Remington >mountainman. We invited him to a woodswalk, but got turned down
> > (campman), he would have >been hog-tied in the first 75-100 yards with his own fringe.
>
> You are criticising the length of the fringe, not the fringe, right? Alfred Jacob Miller drew plenty of fringe.
>
> Glenn Darilek
> Iron Burner
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Iron Burner,
12-18 in long fringe won't work in buck brush or berry patches, the fringe is fine, the length was not workable.
later
Buck
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:05:09 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade
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> Order your membership now and get the invitation to this years annual Chadron
> Fur Trade Days rondy. I just spoke to Gail and she says they're expecting a
> pretty large camp.
>
> Cheers,
> HBC
>
> **********************************
> Henry B. Crawford
I understand it will not be on that river bottom, but on good ground - that
silt killed everyone and took lots of work after getting home to clean it out
of your gear. They do a good job with their rendezvous, put it on your list of
things to do.
later
Buck
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:40:20 -0600
From: tetontodd@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
Mike,
I've done a bit of research on rope. I came to the conclusion that the
majority of rope used in the east and supplied in St. Louis was hemp.
Remember that hemp was a huge cash crop in those days for just that
purpose, the making of course cloth and rope. Flax ropes were also used,
but not to the extent of hemp.
The rope we know as Manila was so named because it came from the
Phillipines. It was made from "Manila Hemp" which is actually a plant
known as Abaca. Abaca is related to the Banana. The leaves are long an
fiburous. How much it was imported is hard to discover. I would tend to
think it was not as common as domestic hemp rope.
Sisal is related to agave and was used in Central America and Mexico. It
doesn't appear to have been an important export until after it was
introduced to Africa in the late 1800's. Tanzania became a large
exporeter of sisal and still is.
You really can't beat a good hemp rope. My friends and i have had much
fun making it, Fortunatly it isn't hard to find hemp twine nowadays, and
it's easy to make a rope from it.
I believe that the mountaineers used animal hides to make rope from if
they didn't have access to rope from the settlements.
My 2 cents
"Teton" Todd D. Glover
Poison River Party Pilgrim
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