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hist_text-digest Tuesday, April 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 521
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list
-áááááá MtMan-List: L n R Locks
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston
-áááááá MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: ropes
-áááááá MtMan-List: Parched Corn
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:32:52 -0700
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list
Lee,
Give my congratulations to young master Newbill. And don't you swell up too
much being proud. I may take a trip up to the Blues this week or perhaps
next weekend if Crawdad had a good but unsuccessful weekend. I haven't heard
a report yet. I remain....
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:51:34 PDT
From: "Tim Nevins" <timnevins@hotmail.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: L n R Locks
I wanted to thank everyone for there help with my lock problems on my
Traditions. I solved it once and for all!!!!
I received my new RPL Lock from LnR the other day had it in within half an
hour and it is great. Highly recommended if anyone is thinking of replacing
their locks they pop right in and spark like there's no tomorrow.
Thanks Again
Tim Nevins
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:22:20 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Last of the Mountain men...Heston
Hello in the camp
Tell ya the truth Buck the only thing I can tell you that was good about my
out fit I had back then is that it wore out and was replaced with a better
one. I would think we all have improved by more and better reacher since that
movie was made.'' At least I know I have." Back then I looked like one of
Remingtons' mountain men in dirty chrome tan buckskin, big coyote hat and all.
Dog it will be nice to have proof that story isn't a big windy. Looking
forward to getting the picture. I be dammed if I didn't have one shinin time
on that set and the stories to be told.
Would have got back to you all sooner but had me a shoot out to my place
this week end we call it the IRS sucks shoot.
See ya on the trail
Crazy Cyot
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:25:46 -0600
From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: ropes
Have a question, what kind of ropes were used in the fur trade? This is
one of few things which I had never questioned and always used a mixture
of anything which I could find. Any help?
mike.
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:32:55 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members
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GazeingCyot@cs.com wrote:
> Hello in the camp
> Tell ya the truth Buck the only thing I can tell you that was good about my out
> fit I had back then is that it wore out and was replaced with a better one. I
> would think we all have improved by more and better reacher since that movie was
> made.'' At least I know I have." Back then I looked like one of Remingtons'
> mountain men in dirty chrome tan buckskin, big coyote hat and all.
> Dog it will be nice to have proof that story isn't a big windy. Looking
> forward to getting the picture. I be dammed if I didn't have one shinin time on
> that set and the stories to be told.
> Would have got back to you all sooner but had me a shoot out to my place this
> week end we call it the IRS sucks shoot.
> See ya on the trail
> Crazy Cyot
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Crazy,
Hopefully we have all improved in all areas from clothing to more in depth
research, like you - the few I run with have. Of course I saw a guy for the first
time in 10-12 years a few weeks ago and he still looked and dressed the same with
the chrome tanned skins and fringe as long as that Remington mountainman. We
invited him to a woodswalk, but got turned down (campman), he would have been
hog-tied in the first 75-100 yards with his own fringe.
The one area to get buckskinners, reenacters, or whatever they call themselves to
take a hard look at is edibles. Not trying to plug the business, but seriously we
have met some neat folks with great outfits, equipage and camps, but when you look
at what they eat at night - they're missing out on the total experience.
I think on this list we have talked more about foods, cultivated and foraged, more
in the last year than I've seen in the last 30 in various camps - big and small.
List members that is so encouraging to see that many of you have paid attention to
what many of us have written, talked and demo'd about all these years, thank all
of you. Those that have leaned in this direction are experiencing more what their
forefathers dealt with on a daily basics.
Sorry to get off on foods, etc. - Crazy those times will be remembered until we go
under, then we can sit on the other side around an evening fire and listen to our
old friends - Charley Hanson, the Sublette's, the Bent's and so on, tell about
their adventures.
Good Night Friends.
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:58:37 -0600
From: <conner1@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
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Mike Moore wrote:
> Have a question, what kind of ropes were used in the fur trade? This is
> one of few things which I had never questioned and always used a mixture
> of anything which I could find. Any help?
> mike.
Mike,
Have seen references to hemp, manilla, buffalo-elk and moose hide (deer is
like antelope-pretty thin), dog vain, several cordage's made from natural
material. Jefferson and Thomas Paine had something about rope in one of the
garden books Mike, I'll look for it and loan it to you.
At some of the eastern camps have seen guts making rope from twine, haven't
a clue if that's correct for their period or not.
Chuck can't remember his last name - Striker maybe, use to write for Baird
years ago in Buckskin Report, did an article on fur trade rope, Hanson
though he did pretty good, I'll look for that too, Oh Mike I have a piece of
Chuck's buffalo hide rope if you would like to see it.
This is short, those that do and don't remember Chuck, he was a tall thin
drink of water, hair to his waist and beard damn near as long. Everyone
always talked about Jeff and his horseback trips, well Chuck from sea to
shining sea, then Baird published the story.
I was living in northern Colorado, working in front of my store "Buckhorn
Rendezvous" (cooking buffalo steaks and rendering fat from a resent kill)
and a customer pulls in and says "wait till you see what's coming down the
road". This is a narrow tarred road, cars have to pull into the other lane
to get around this guy on horseback with two pack animals - looked like we
just went back a 150 years.
He rides in, asks to permission to set down, we meet Chuck Striker (think
that's the name), we have horse across the street in a big field, I tell him
to unload at the store and pasture his animals, which he does. He comes back
we offer him some homemade wine and buffalo steaks, he falls to his knees
and kisses my boots - caught me off guard, jumped back and ask if he we
touched?? Turns out he rode in from Tao's and was living on jerky and dried
fruit, he thought he had died and when somewhere, but the food was better.
So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old
summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to pay
for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this
gentleman, originally from CA ?
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:32:43 -0500
From: jc60714@navix.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
Washtahay-
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to pay
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this
>gentleman, originally from CA ?
sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe.
LongWalker c. du B.
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:06:36 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <ad.miller@mindspring.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
Ok... I give up. Tried making parched corn and all I got was burned
nuggets... Did as was suggested. Did not want to wait for ear corn to dry,
so I used frozen and put it in the dehydrator. After that, skillet with just
a bit of salt, and derned if I didn't burn it... GRRRRRRRRRRRR......... My
question is (finally)... Where the hell can I just buy some parched cord???
*grins*
Thanks....
Ad Miller
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:49:02 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn
Ad
Jill and I have made parched corn the same way you did a time or two when
in a pitch for some. It worked out for us, you have to keep the kernels of
corn moving to keep them from scorching almost like pop corn but not that
much movement. keep turning them, those small kernels from frozen corn scorch
easily as you found out. We still had a few black spots on ours but they ate
well and when boiled up with rice were soft and tender. After parching the
corn seems to boil up faster.
See ya on the trail
Crazy Cyot
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