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Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #497
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hist_text-digest Wednesday, March 15 2000 Volume 01 : Number 497
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
-áááááá MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: percussion tubes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: percussion tubes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Elk Pants
-áááááá MtMan-List: beaver trap prices
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: beaver trap prices
-áááááá MtMan-List: Saddle Soap
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Elk Pants
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
-áááááá MtMan-List: Advice to a beginner
-áááááá MtMan-List: HappyTime.exe and kak.htm virus
-áááááá MtMan-List: Search
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:36:59 -0800
From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
It is still possible to get vegetable tanned - pricey, but available. Joe
Brandl could probably give a source if he doesn't have it himself.
Bill
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From: Roger Lahti <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
>Bill,
>
>Thanks for the support. I agree with your addition just wasn't sure what to
>suggest as an alternative to BT that is available today.
>What kind of factory tanned leather are you referring to? Might as well
give
>Matt our best. <G> I remain.....
>
>YMOS
>Capt. Lahti'
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:30:04 -0700
From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" <leona3@favorites.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses
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Since I was passing near Eagle Feather Trading Post on my way to visit =
my wife and newborn twin sons, I stopped in to do a little investigating =
fer Chance. Sorry, the lady who runs the place said that this book had =
been out of print (sounds familiar) for about fifteen years and she did =
not know where to get one from. They have a lot of books that start =
"Primitive Indian...." so it must have been one of these that Ole saw. =
It was a hot trail that just went cold.
YMOS
WYnn
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:43:49 -0800
From: "Hill" <dehill@lv.rmci.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: percussion tubes
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percussion tubes (I have been told) are now called "nipples"
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From: "Steven Lester" <stevyn@oasisol.com>
To: "mtman list" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: percussion tubes
Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 11:56 PM
Excuse me for barging in, but I've been lurking around the list for a while
tryin' to learn something about anything! My name is Steve Lester and I live
in the Nevada desert country. I 'm new to buckskinin' and muzzleloading and
participated in my first shoot this past weekend and truly enjoyed myself
and the good people at Eagle Valley Muzzleloaders.
While reading Osborne Russells " Journal of A Trapper" I read about him
having to cut a hunt short because his partner blew out a percussion tube
and they had to return to camp to make a new one. Im curious about how the
tubes were made!
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percussion tubes (I have been told) are now called "nipples"<BR>
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From: "Steven Lester" <stevyn@oasisol.com><BR>
To: "mtman list" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com><BR>
Subject: MtMan-List: percussion tubes<BR>
Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 11:56 PM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Excuse me for barging in, but I've been lurking =
around the list for a while tryin' to learn something about anything! My nam=
e is Steve Lester and I live in the Nevada desert country. I 'm new to bucks=
kinin' and muzzleloading and participated in my first shoot this past weeken=
d and truly enjoyed myself and the good people at Eagle Valley Muzzleloaders=
.<BR>
While reading Osborne Russells " Journal of A Trapper"=
; </FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D"2">I read about him having to cut a hunt short be=
cause his partner blew out a percussion tube and they had to return to camp =
to make a new one. Im curious about how the tubes were made!<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:44:59 -0800
From: "Hill" <dehill@lv.rmci.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: percussion tubes
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Forgot one thing
i am also new and have been shooting with a club for about a year or so I am
with the Spring Mountain Free Trappers in and around Las Vegas country
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From: "Steven Lester" <stevyn@oasisol.com>
To: "mtman list" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: percussion tubes
Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 11:56 PM
Excuse me for barging in, but I've been lurking around the list for a while
tryin' to learn something about anything! My name is Steve Lester and I live
in the Nevada desert country. I 'm new to buckskinin' and muzzleloading and
participated in my first shoot this past weekend and truly enjoyed myself
and the good people at Eagle Valley Muzzleloaders.
While reading Osborne Russells " Journal of A Trapper" I read about him
having to cut a hunt short because his partner blew out a percussion tube
and they had to return to camp to make a new one. Im curious about how the
tubes were made!
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Forgot one thing<BR>
i am also new and have been shooting with a club for about a year or so I a=
m with the Spring Mountain Free Trappers in and around Las Vegas country<BR>
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From: "Steven Lester" <stevyn@oasisol.com><BR>
To: "mtman list" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com><BR>
Subject: MtMan-List: percussion tubes<BR>
Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 11:56 PM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Excuse me for barging in, but I've been lurking =
around the list for a while tryin' to learn something about anything! My nam=
e is Steve Lester and I live in the Nevada desert country. I 'm new to bucks=
kinin' and muzzleloading and participated in my first shoot this past weeken=
d and truly enjoyed myself and the good people at Eagle Valley Muzzleloaders=
.<BR>
While reading Osborne Russells " Journal of A Trapper"=
; </FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D"2">I read about him having to cut a hunt short be=
cause his partner blew out a percussion tube and they had to return to camp =
to make a new one. Im curious about how the tubes were made!<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:47:15 -0800
From: "Hill" <dehill@lv.rmci.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Elk Pants
What I want to know is...why would you put pants on an Elk?
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>From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: MtMan-List: Elk Pants
>Date: Tue, Mar 14, 2000, 12:35 PM
>
>
>
>Have a pair of Elk Hide Pants/Trouser
>that no longer fit due to weight reduction.
>
>Would like to sell. E-mail me off list for details
>
>
>@
>
>delis@aztec.asu.edu
>
>--
>A.K.A. Penny Pincher
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:45:02 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: beaver trap prices
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In Dean's web site Mountain Man and the Fur Trade you will find the =
following: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/artagree.html =
which shows a price in the mountains of $9.00 each for traps
http://www.pioneerpc.com/wildernessway/Pages/rendez.htm is an article =
from The Wilderness Way magazine which indicates $1.50 each for traps at =
the factory
http://home.flash.net/~tinyt/otmemories2.html is a web page that says =
traps cost $20 a dozen
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
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<DIV>In Dean's web site Mountain Man and the Fur Trade you will find the =
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which shows a price in the mountains of $9.00 each for traps</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3><A=20
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ww.pioneerpc.com/wildernessway/Pages/rendez.htm</A></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3> is an article from The Wilderness Way magazine which =
indicates=20
$1.50 each for traps at the factory</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3><A=20
href=3D"http://home.flash.net/~tinyt/otmemories2.html">http://home.flash.=
net/~tinyt/otmemories2.html</A></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3> is a web page that says traps cost $20 a =
dozen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>YMOS</DIV>
<DIV>Lanney Ratcliff</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:04:19 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: beaver trap prices
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Dean's web page is a cinch to find. The other references were found by =
going to the search engine Google http://www.google.com/ and initiating =
a search for=20
"beaver traps St Louis" and striking the search key. Dozens of =
references grouped pretty much by subject matter. This search engine is =
the only one I use anymore and I urge everybody to try it.
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
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To: History List=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 12:45 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: beaver trap prices
In Dean's web site Mountain Man and the Fur Trade you will find the =
following: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/artagree.html =
which shows a price in the mountains of $9.00 each for traps
http://www.pioneerpc.com/wildernessway/Pages/rendez.htm is an article =
from The Wilderness Way magazine which indicates $1.50 each for traps at =
the factory
http://home.flash.net/~tinyt/otmemories2.html is a web page that says =
traps cost $20 a dozen
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3>Dean's web page is a cinch to find. The other =
references=20
were found by going to the search engine Google <A=20
href=3D"http://www.google.com/">http://www.google.com/</A> and =
initiating a=20
search for </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3>"beaver traps St Louis" and striking the search =
key. =20
Dozens of references grouped pretty much by subject matter. This =
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it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>YMOS</DIV>
<DIV>Lanney Ratcliff</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 15, 2000 =
12:45=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: beaver =
trap=20
prices</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In Dean's web site Mountain Man and the Fur Trade you will find =
the=20
following: <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/artagree.html">http://w=
ww.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/artagree.html</A> =20
which shows a price in the mountains of $9.00 each for traps</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.pioneerpc.com/wildernessway/Pages/rendez.htm">http://w=
ww.pioneerpc.com/wildernessway/Pages/rendez.htm</A></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3> is an article from The Wilderness Way magazine which =
indicates=20
$1.50 each for traps at the factory</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3><A=20
=
href=3D"http://home.flash.net/~tinyt/otmemories2.html">http://home.flash.=
net/~tinyt/otmemories2.html</A></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3> is a web page that says traps cost $20 a =
dozen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>YMOS</DIV>
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:17:46 -0000
From: "Glenn Darilek" <llsi@texas.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Saddle Soap
Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition traces the first
written use of the words 'saddle soap' back to 1889.
>Hey Folks !
> How far back in history does Saddle Soap go ?
>Pendleton
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:48:22 -0700
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
Thanks Bill,
We do carry quite a bit of leather, I suggest splits for leggins and
full grain for pants. You could go with a commercial tanned braintan
look. It is a cornmeal color and has been sueded on both sides. The
hides smoke up quite well. Cost is more for the comm. braintan. Of
turning grained deer skin inside out can work nice. You can smoke or
dye the leather for a more aged look.
Joe
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:53:34 -0700
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Elk Pants
It is a little known fact that Rocky Mtn Elk do wear pants in the
wintertime to assist them in foraging for food on high wind blown
slopes. During the summer months, a shorter version of knickers are
worn. I've seen it for sure. hard to verify though as during hunting
season, these pants are cached to avoid detection and any assocation
of being human.
Joe
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:14:27 -0600
From: "northwoods" <northwoods@ez-net.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses
Excuse me for not remembering who, but someone was looking for a book on
Primitive Indian Dresses, I'm not sure if this is it or not:
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1. Fecteau, Susan/Vickie Zimmer Kuntz Primitive Indian Dresses - Leather
Dress Styles & Decoration Cheyenne 1979 1st Ed 106pp, illus by author, stiff
pict. wraps nice Well illustrated. Book # 07792 US$ 17.50 Click here for
more information or to purchase this book directly from T A Swinford,
Bookseller, AZ, U.S.A.
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The Seller:
T A Swinford, Bookseller , 7134 Main Street , Scottsdale , AZ , U.S.A. ,
85251
Phone 480 946 0022 / Fax 480 946 2679 , Email tasbooks@extremezone.com
One heck of a great bibliographical reference can be had by asking to
recieve a catalog from Mr. Swinford, he puts out four a year with at least a
thousand or so titles in each, many many fur trade titles but not limited to
that period. I have been a long time customer and if you ever get to Phoenix
take time to stop in. It's in old town Scottsdale. Rite across the street is
Guidon Books another great used/rare bookstore. In fact they have a website
which I have handy: The Seller: www.guidon.com/mtnmen.html
Check out the fur trade titles, they have many of the standard references
plus some hard to find ones.
northwoods
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:25:37 PST
From: "Chance Tiffie" <bossloper@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses
Wynn,
Thanks a million for trying to find the book. It seems more elusive than
once thought. Several sites that were turned up by members of this list
have turned out to be dead ends. The most recent one mentioned by
Northwoods, lists the book, but when I called about it, the only copy they
had was sold. I am still attempting to find the book, it is for my wife.
After years of slouching in her authencticity, she was encouraged by people
like Jean Heinbuck, and Jill, of this list to reach a new level in her
standards. She hopes to copy a Shoshone dress and accoutrements, but
sources of good info are scarce. I had a copy of Millers painting of the
native girl swinging from a branch with nothing on but a skirt, and
reccomended that particular sytle. I was met with some resistance though.
Primitive Indian dresses, is the most reccomended work on this subject, and
if it is half as good as it is made out to be, we should demand a re-print.
Thanks again for everyones help in this matter!!
>
Cliff Tiffie
PO Box 5089
Durant, OK
74702
580-924-4187
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:53:36 -0800
From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
Hey, I need some splits for arrow quivers. I also need some heavier leather,
like latigo. Any prices?
Thanks
Bill
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From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
>Thanks Bill,
>
>We do carry quite a bit of leather, I suggest splits for leggins and
>full grain for pants. You could go with a commercial tanned braintan
>look. It is a cornmeal color and has been sueded on both sides. The
>hides smoke up quite well. Cost is more for the comm. braintan. Of
>turning grained deer skin inside out can work nice. You can smoke or
>dye the leather for a more aged look.
>Joe
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:48:28 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
Matt,
There is an imitation smoked braintan leather available from Fox Valley
Leather in North Salt Lake City, Utah that look's good enough to fool most
experts, I think you can get it in both elk and buckskin. They also have a
pure white leather that looks a lot like brain taned leather. I use to
purchase a lot of scraps for the Boy Scouts and they would give 15% off for
Scouts on anything they sell.
YMOS
Ole
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>From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
>Date: Tue, Mar 14, 2000, 6:10 PM
>
>Bill,
>
>Thanks for the support. I agree with your addition just wasn't sure what to
>suggest as an alternative to BT that is available today.
>What kind of factory tanned leather are you referring to? Might as well give
>Matt our best. <G> I remain.....
>
>YMOS
>Capt. Lahti'
>
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:45:53 -0800
From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
But I would abjure you to look closely at what Joe Brandl (his message
posted earlier on this list) has to offer. Joe is extremely knowledgeable
and will not sell anything that is not prime. You tell him what you are
doing and he will match his products to your needs. I have used Fox Valley a
lot in the past - with a variety of results ranging from great to Ugh! If
Joe doesn't have exactly what you want he will tell you and even give you
pointers on where it might be obtained, such as the excellent Spotted Pony
Traders.
Bill C
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From: Ole B. Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
>Matt,
>There is an imitation smoked braintan leather available from Fox Valley
>Leather in North Salt Lake City, Utah that look's good enough to fool most
>experts, I think you can get it in both elk and buckskin. They also have a
>pure white leather that looks a lot like brain taned leather. I use to
>purchase a lot of scraps for the Boy Scouts and they would give 15% off for
>Scouts on anything they sell.
>YMOS
>Ole
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>>From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
>>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
>>Date: Tue, Mar 14, 2000, 6:10 PM
>>
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>Thanks for the support. I agree with your addition just wasn't sure what
to
>>suggest as an alternative to BT that is available today.
>>What kind of factory tanned leather are you referring to? Might as well
give
>>Matt our best. <G> I remain.....
>>
>>YMOS
>>Capt. Lahti'
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:00:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Schrotter <mail4dog@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Advice to a beginner
Matt, the best advice I can give you is to be honest.
Don't be afraid to ask questions and don't be afraid
to share YOUR opinions[but not too strongly] If you
appear to be making an honest effort to fit in you
will in all likelyhood be accepted. Some of them
people can sniff out a phony like an elk can sniff out
hunters! Just be yourself and remember you can learn
something from anyone-even another pilgrim. And
others can learn from you as well. Book learning is
wonderful, but experience is better. Good luck, and
welcome to the camp. Dog, Gabe's Hole Brigade
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:15:09 -0500
From: "Addison Miller" <ad.miller@mindspring.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: HappyTime.exe and kak.htm virus
This is NOT a hoax....
Someone (not from this list) sent me the HappyTime.htm (I think that was it)
and Norton picked it up. Also, my computer was infected with something
called kak.htm virus. No idea what it is or what it does. Everyone PLEASE
run your virus scan to make sure that I have not passed something on to
others.
Thanks
Ad Miller
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:17:57 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Search
Ho the List,
I'm trying track down a fella named "Fiddling Red" that's supposed to be out
here in the NW. No warrants for his arrest or such....<G>....just a friend
lookin to find him. Contact me off line iffin ya know where he is...
Ymos,
Steve
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:49:56 -0500
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
mat porter--
getting started is tough for a lot of people and most of us go thru a big
learning curve and thought process and pattern change as we progress thru
the learning of buckskinning---dont know where in arkansas you are
located---can point you toward a few people if i knew where you
live---there is a state shoot usually in september in berryville
arkansas---a good one---will have a lot of people there and a good
opertunity to see and look at what people are doing in the way you are
directing yourself---several of the companies have cloth patterns for
shirts and such and remember something that overalls were invented in the
early 1800 by Levi corporation (this gets the purests/triditionalist
going)and are usually acceptable at most shoots except for the pure AMM
doings---a good starter but not your final end point thats for
sure---contact me offline and we can discuss the way you want to go and
possible methods to follow along with ML contacts in your area------ BTW
My home is in the Eureka Springs area originally--
YMHOSANT
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C)
Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815
e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web
site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:03:01 -0500
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
mat porter--
getting started is tough for a lot of people and most of us go thru a big
learning curve and thought process and pattern change as we progress thru
the learning of buckskinning---dont know where in arkansas you are
located---can point you toward a few people if i knew where you
live---there is a state shoot usually in september in berryville
arkansas---a good one---will have a lot of people there and a good
opertunity to see and look at what people are doing in the way you are
directing yourself---several of the companies have cloth patterns for
shirts and such and remember something that "overalls were invented in
the early 1800 by Levi corporation (this gets the purests/triditionalist
going)and are usually acceptable at most shoots except for the pure AMM
doings---a good starter but not your final end point thats for
sure---contact me offline and we can discuss the way you want to go and
possible methods to follow along with ML contacts in your area------ BTW
My home is in the Eureka Springs area originally--
and the info that CPT L gave you about where to start is real good so
the above is just a adder for most imput---remember "trying to have a
proper persona counts a lot" and if you dont think something is correct
dont do it or ask someone who knows---Just dont be a "plactic
Buckskinner" try to do it right and to the best of your abilities---read
and ask and you will learn.
YMHOSANT
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C)
Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815
e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web
site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:10:13 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Search
Steve,
I think he is in Idaho in the Panhandle but am not sure. Let me know if you
don't get better info and I'll pass this off to the AMM up here. I
remain.....
YMOS
Capt..Lahti'
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From: <SWcushing@aol.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 11:17 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Search
> Ho the List,
>
> I'm trying track down a fella named "Fiddling Red" that's supposed to be
out
> here in the NW. No warrants for his arrest or such....<G>....just a friend
> lookin to find him. Contact me off line iffin ya know where he is...
>
> Ymos,
> Steve
>
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