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hist_text-digest        Tuesday, March 14 2000        Volume 01 : Number 495



In this issue:

-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: spectacles
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call/hunting
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ
-áááááá MtMan-List: Animal fat as a patch lube?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses???
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Animal fat as a patch lube?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Random thoughts
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The archives
-áááááá MtMan-List: FW: Questions'
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM members
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
-áááááá MtMan-List: Crazy -vs- Kramer Fracas
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Crazy -vs- Kramer Fracas
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Crazy -vs- Kramer Fracas
-áááááá MtMan-List: percussion tubes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
-áááááá MtMan-List: liver tanning
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
-áááááá MtMan-List: FW: To think about!
-áááááá MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:02:15 -0600
-áááááá MtMan-List: Fw:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: spectacles
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:42:47 -0800
From: Pat Quilter <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ

Angela
   I have for years cut and pasted the most interesting posts and kept them
in an ever growing archive of my own, loosely organized by topic. It must
run to 100 pages by now, using 8-point, double column type. Much of it, of
course, is personal stories and experiences, while some of it reports on
research. I would be glad to help with our FAQ. Your idea of divvying up the
topics makes sense. It will be an editing challenge to prune our FAQ for
length and reliability. I must admit at this time that I have at least a
year of recent postings to add to my archive; knowing that Dean's site keeps
this up has taken some of the heat off.
   Just the other week I read that my hinged lidded tin cup which I bought
in good faith from a trader is post-period (civil war) so you learn
something new every day. I've been meaning to ask for clarification on tin
styles but I have pretty much figured it out from ongoing traffic (tin
experts feel free to comment however). I mention this as an example of a
topic which would presumably have been in our FAQ, to give an example of its
value.
   YMOS
Pat Quilter

- -----Original Message-----
From: Angela Gottfred [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 1980 8:20 AM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ


John Kramer <[e-mail]> wrote:
This subject has been beat to death over and over in the archives.  Read
them.

Crazy Cyot <[e-mail]> replied:
I did not know when I came on this list that I had to study the archives
before I could try help someone with a question or study all the archives
before asking a question.

Gentlemen:
It sounds to me like we could use a FAQ--a list of Frequently-Asked
Questions, accompanied by links to their answers in the archives. New
list members could receive the FAQ as soon as they sign up, or be
politely referred to the FAQ if they ask a question that's on it. (I
checked with Dean Rudy, our list owner, and compiling a FAQ is okay with
him.) The FAQ wouldn't be the end of the discussion on the questions, but
rather, would keep people like John Kramer (and me, come to think of it)
from having to answer the same question over and over again.

It won't happen, though, unless we get a number of people (8-10) to
volunteer to be compilers. That way, each compiler would only have to
take a piece of our rather large archives.  John Kramer? Laura Rugel
Glise? Crazy Cyot? Lee Newbill? This could be a chance to make a
substantial contribution to the list. I'm willing to coordinate the whole
thing, or pass it on to somebody with more time and/or experience.

Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:43:49 -0700
From: "Walt Foster" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: spectacles

> I still have not gotten a reply as to the price of
> specacles during the fur trade.  Anyone know?  I only
> ask as I need mine so badly, and it must have been a
> hardship for folks in those days.  Dog, GHB

Hello Dog,
Trying giving the historian at Ft. Union 1828 a call at 701-572-9083 with
your question of availability and prices?
Walt
Park City, Montana


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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:52:55 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call/hunting

Steve,

I'm going to take this off list. <G> I'll contact you shortly. I remain....

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'




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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:50:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ

Angela et al. I too would be willing to give something back to the list and
help with the FAQ project.  We could make short work of this if enough people
could help, and we had an 'overseer' to coordinate the project. I have looked
through the FAQs numerous times, and would need some direction to weed
through the change of headings, OT stuff, etc, but let me know what I can do.
  Ralph (Barney Fife) Rosen

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:52:55 -0000
From: Miller Wayne S CW2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Animal fat as a patch lube?

Hello the list,

I recently joined the list and have enjoyed the postings thus far.  I just
picked up a nice Sharon Hawken this weekend, and I thought I would try a
more "period correct" approach in shooting her.  With that in mind, what
kind of experiences do you fine folks have using either bear grease or mink
oil as a patch lube?  Track of The Wolf says it's the greatest thing since
sliced bread, but I haven't tried it.  Since I have both mink oil and bear
grease on the shelf, now would be a good time to try.  Any suggestions on
best method and amount to use?

V/R

Mossyrock


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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:03:39 -0600
From: Judy Tyler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Primitive Indian Dresses???

Cliff,
    Try      http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/IList
They had a used one for $17.50


At 02:39 PM 3/11/2000 PST, you wrote:
>I am looking for a copy of the book entitled "Primitive Indian Dresses," by
>Susan Fecteau.  I have searched Amazon and a few other places and have been
>unsuccesful.  Does anyone have a copy they would be interested in parting
>with, or is anyone aware of a source for the book???  Much thanks in
>advance.
>
>
>
>Cliff Tiffie
>PO Box 5089
>Durant, OK
>74702
>580-924-4187
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:53:47 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

Hawk, I don't sell stuff - just give it out to friends who I think might
need something.
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!


>bill c:
>what do you want for a pint--I usto use it in the tempering and hardening
>of frizzens and springs---best there is---let me know the "bill de fair"
>to include shipping---might be interested---
>
>    "HAWK"
>Michael Pierce
>854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
>Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
>e-mail:   [e-mail]  web
>site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:01:58 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Animal fat as a patch lube?

Mossyrock,

It was nice to meet you at the show. Now we got an idea of who we're talking
too. I use bear grease as a patch lube and it seems to work just fine. I may
experiment with some other things to see if I can get better accuracy than I
get but so far I have taken my share of meat with using bear grease or
whatever animal fat I have around.

All you can really do is experiment with your gun and load to see what works
best. If you want traditional, then any animal fat and many vegetable oils
were used and will work as well today as they did originally. Have fun with
your new gun, I remain....

YMOS
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:10:07 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Random thoughts

Dog,
I will be there friday night, all day saturday through till sundaypm.
Ole # 718
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>From: Ronald Schrotter <[e-mail]>
>To: hist list <[e-mail]>
>Subject: MtMan-List: Random thoughts
>Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 9:15 AM
>

>Crazy, don't quit the list over John. He has always
>been a pain, but will cover your back in a heartbeat.
>I have enjoyed your posts, as have many others.  Keep
>it up!
>Buck, thanks for the support on the flag.  I couldn't
>remember the green stripe, but thought there might be
>one.
>Ole, will try to get to Bridgers birthday bash, but am
>working nightshift so can make no promises.  Which day
>would be best to catch you?
>Rendezvous is still the best place of supply, but some
>of the large ones can sure drive ya crazy.  It was
>always the horse rides in that were the best part.
>The experience gained and the friendship shared were
>and are the best, and are still invaluable.  You learn
>more about yourself and your brothers than you ever
>will in camp.
>Sorry to take up so much of the lists time, my
>apologies to all.  Keep your nose to the wind and your
>eyes on the skyline, Dog, GHB
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:39:28 -0800
From: "John C. Funk, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The archives

Gazeing.....
Simmer down friend.  We all been jumped on a time er tow by some in an
unthink'n state.  Don't take it to heart.  We need yer kind on the
list.....the only fool question is the one that ain't been asked.....I know
you heard that one before. I've seen and used those "archives" and spent
hours pouring through various notes to find the answer to questions.
Frequently I find not all the questions have been asked.
Hope you stick around.
John Funk


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The archives


> John you don't know the meaning of Courtesy: Jumpin on people for askin a
> question and others for answerin it ain't countess just because it had
been
> talk bout once before does not mean it cannot and should not be revisited,
so
> something else maybe added. Cutting off thread before it gets started is
> rude. I owe you no courtesy until you so me some. if I'm a readin between
the
> lines right you don't like the way I post. Well, let me tell you
something. I
> am a dyslectic one finger typper that don't know nothing about computers
that
> graduated out of high school with a fourth grade reading a spelling
ability.
> I Have worked on it all my adult life my reading has improved from all the
> reading I have done on the history of the fur trade. But my writing and
> spelling skills still suck. So don't go whining to me how much work you
put
> into a post. But when it comes to mountain doins I'll shine in any Group.
> Even you egg heads. I tried readin the Archives once had to wade through a
> lot of bull OT get to any beef. So what should I do start at the top and
read
> my through to make sure I did not miss any thing that might come up.
> { That is the courtesy due those busy people who have taken the time }
Thanks
> For Taken my time this post has taken me three hours.
>
>    Crazy Cyot
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:05:12 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: FW: Questions'

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From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
To: ammemaillist <[e-mail]>
Subject: Questions'
Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 5:34 PM


Hello the Camp!
There is no such thing as a dumb question only dumb answers. I always
figured that if someone thinks enoug of your knowledge to ask a question it
should be taken as a compliment. As far as the last litle temper tantroms, I
take it all with a grain of salt, we all have good and bad days and sometime
in the future I will make an ass out of myself again.
I have said this before, I have known John Kramer for more years than I want
to think about and he is a kind and dear freind who would help any brother
that needed his help. I have also just met Cracy a couple of months back and
I found him to be made of the same stuff. Besides I like people that have
pasionate beliefs, espesialy if I can rattle there cage a litle.
Look on the posetive side  a new FAQ system is going to come out of this
thread.
YMOS
Ole # 718

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:01:49 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM members

good words big john---you silver toung oritor---

    "HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:05:49 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag

I saw the AMM flag at the rendezvous last summer. It was hoisted near the
trade tent area. So someone must know where it is. The question is, can
we reproduce it for display at our personal camps.

Todd Glover
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:35:05 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Crazy -vs- Kramer Fracas

Gentlemen,

I picturing a bunch of trappers with winter camp fever sitting around the
fire squabbling over next to nothing. It'd kinda fun to watch at first,
but if you aren't careful can soon escalate to circling with drawn
knives.

I feel partly responsible, because I believe it was my comments about
whale oil that John referred to as "braggadocio." Well, I been around
this list nigh four years or more and so didn't take any offense to Johns
words myself.

Now don't either one of you go and think about pullin your stakes on this
trappers e-mail camp. Both of you have good things to say and valued
opinions.

We've had us some good fracas' now and then. Just ask ole Hawk Pierce his
opinion on CVA rifles! Yoouuuuuwwwzaaaa!!! Talk about tossin a spark near
the powder keg! That one raged for days and got kinda ugly.

Time to sit back now and enjoy the fire and dream of many beaver...


"Teton" Todd D. Glover
Poison River Party Pilgrim




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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:09:20 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Crazy -vs- Kramer Fracas

> I picturing a bunch of trappers with winter camp fever sitting around the
>  fire squabbling over next to nothing. It'd kinda fun to watch at first,
>  but if you aren't careful can soon escalate to circling with drawn
>  knives.

I been gone fer a few months.  You guys was squabblin' when I left.  Don't
know if it ever ended or if this is a new one.

Some of the rest of you might be having the problem I had, so I am going to
pass it on.  A while back, I quit receiving messages from this list.  I
figgered it was just slow, so I didn't think much about it.  I posted a test
message and it didn't come back to me but several others responded to me off
list.  For some reason, the only messages I received from the list were Lee
Newbill's.  Now he was quoting other, so I figgered that there must be
something going on, but couldn't figger out what.

I contacted Dean, and he said I was subscribed.  I tried resubscribing again,
and the server said I was already subscribed.  Yet I was receiving no mail
from the list.

Now, we used to be subscribed to hist_text@ xmission.com.  Now we are
subscribed to [e-mail].  I think the list got put on a
new server and most were transferred over.  I seem to have been stuck on the
old server for some reason.  I resubscribed to the list with this email
address and started receiving mail again.  I used the form on the website to
subscribe.

In the process, I received two different Welcome messages.  One said that
this was a moderated list, and the other said it was unmoderated.  I don't
know which it is, but I just resubscribed again with my old email address and
am now starting to get mail there.  A couple of other guys told me offlist
that they were having the same problems.  The cure seems to be to unsubscribe
and then resubscribe using the form on the website.  The URL is found at the
bottom of each email received from the list.

Anyway, I will be popping back in again soon.  I see that Angella is back and
that John Kramer is still contributing valuable info to the list.  His
"search the archives" suggestion is one which I will have to do, because it
seems that I have a few months of postings to catch up on.  C'est la vie.

Dave Kanger

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:15:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Crazy -vs- Kramer Fracas

On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 [e-mail] wrote:
> A while back, I quit receiving messages from this list. <sniparoo>
> Dave Kanger

Dang.

He found us again <G>

Welcome back Dave!

Your Most Obedient Servant...

Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:56:03 -0800
From: "Steven Lester" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: percussion tubes

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:38:39 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

bill if you can spare a bit to be used to temper frizzens with i would
highly appreciate it and swap you a turkey call for it if that is
acceptable---

YMHOSANT
   =+=
HAWK
Michael Pierce        "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line "  trademark (C)
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor florida 34684
E-Mail: [e-mail]   Web site:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:53:47 -0800 [e-mail] (Bill Cunningham)
writes:
> Hawk, I don't sell stuff - just give it out to friends who I think
> might
> need something.

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:03:24 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag

allen hall---
glad the guys have a place to display stuff ---we tried to get a museum
built several years ago---mid 70's---who owns the place you speak of and
what is the deal with the exhabit---have a lot of original stuff put back
but dont intend it to go to anything or anyone who wont enjoy it as much
as i do---people say I should open a museum with the stuff i have been
collecting old junk since i was a kid ---old man told me to collect stuff
with history behind it---and have done that---many items too interesting
to mention---is there anything that you are looking for---might be able
to help out ---is the display a perminant thing or a temporary loan type
of deal---give me more info off line about what is happening with
it---might be able to help if it is the right situation---

YMHOSANT
  =+=
HAWK
Michael Pierce        "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line "  trademark (C)
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor florida 34684
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:09:41 -0600
From: "Frank Fusco" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: liver tanning

    On one of those TV antique appraisal show, I heard an 'expert' mention
that a particular Indian artifact may have been "liver tanned".
    Does anyone know anything about liver tanning. I have never heard of
this. Does liver do the same, as good, job as brain tanning.
    Livers are larger and easier to acquire than brains.  Can any liver be
used? Example: can beef liver be used in deer hides?
    Any input on this would be helpful.
Frank "Bearclaw" Fusco, Mountain Home, Arkansas


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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:33:55 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag

Todd,
Allen has the flag and is bringing it to bridger this week.
YMOS
Ole
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>Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 9:05 PM
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>I saw the AMM flag at the rendezvous last summer. It was hoisted near the
>trade tent area. So someone must know where it is. The question is, can
>we reproduce it for display at our personal camps.
>
>Todd Glover
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:58:22 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: FW: To think about!

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From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
To: "hist_text" <[e-mail]>
Subject: To think about!
Date: Sun, Mar 12, 2000, 5:36 PM


Hello the camp,
Think about this,
1. most trappers had a horse they would ride along with 1,2 or 3 pack
animals.
The reason for the pack animals was not to pack in, it was to pack out
(furs). There for a trapper in a party caries in equipment and provisions
for the fall and spring trapping season and when he takes his furs to
market, he cached all the unnesecary stuff where he can reclaim it for the
next years season.
2. Unless a trapping party was in danger during the trapping season, they
would prety much stay in the same area until in was spring.
3. The majority of trapping was done by Indians and hides were traded at
forts owned by diferent concerns the bigest two were American fur and HBC.
The statements I have just made will only be held dear to me until someone
straightens me out.
YMOS
Ole # 718

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:58:06 -0700
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:02:15 -0600

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:06:21 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw:

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:49:54 -0700
From: Joe Brandl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: spectacles

Eye glasses and Spectacles address;

Alan McBrayer
2420 Hatherly Road
Charlotte, NC  28209

Range from $35 to $100


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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:51:28 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

Piece of cake. Look for a bottle in the mail.
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Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!


>bill if you can spare a bit to be used to temper frizzens with i would
>highly appreciate it and swap you a turkey call for it if that is
>acceptable---
>
>YMHOSANT
>   =+=
>HAWK
>Michael Pierce        "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line "  trademark (C)
>854 Glenfield Dr.
>Palm Harbor florida 34684
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>On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:53:47 -0800 [e-mail] (Bill Cunningham)
>writes:
>> Hawk, I don't sell stuff - just give it out to friends who I think
>> might
>> need something.
>
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