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hist_text-digest        Monday, March 13 2000        Volume 01 : Number 494



In this issue:

-áááááá MtMan-List: Turkey Call
-áááááá Re: Fw: Fw: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call
-áááááá MtMan-List: Turkey Calls and Lions
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Saddle Soap
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The archives
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The archives
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Fw: Fw: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call
-áááááá MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá MtMan-List: Random thoughts
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
-áááááá MtMan-List: spectacles
-áááááá MtMan-List: AMM members
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call/hunting
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:48:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Turkey Call

Hawk,
The check is in the mail...... Outstanding little call yer makin there and
even I sound good wid it!

Ymos,
Steve

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:31:27 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

Washtahay-
At 08:36 PM 3/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Sun, 12 March 2000, "Poorboy" wrote:
>
>> nor was I familiar with the previous discussion on braggadocio.
>> I remain your most humble and obedient servant.
>> PoorBoy
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>PoorBoy,
>Have a question for you, what where you referring to by  "braggadocio" ?
    Aw, geez-cut the guy some slack-he was responding to a post, using the
same words as did the person to whom he was responding.
LongWalker c. du B.


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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:58:34 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call

> Hawk,
> The check is in the mail...... Outstanding little call yer makin there and
> even I sound good wid it!

Hawk,

Picked me out a nice one with Chip's help. Sounds good too. Pretty little
thing. Thanks again. I don't know if it sounds as much like a turkey as
Steve does. His girls lost to my girls in the State Championship. LIONS
RULE! Sorry Steve, had to do it. <G>

 It was sure good to meet you and all the others. Nice to put a face to the
names. Course I'll remember the faces for ever and forget the names in a
week (or less). We do have a nice bunch of folks on both lists (History list
and MLML)

Crawdad and me are planning on putting that turkey call to good use this
spring, Hawk. Wish us luck. I remain......

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
>
> Ymos,
> Steve
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:00:43 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Turkey Calls and Lions

> Hawk,
> The check is in the mail...... Outstanding little call yer makin there and
> even I sound good wid it!

Hawk,

Picked me out a nice one with Chip's help. Sounds good too. Pretty little
thing. Thanks again. I don't know if it sounds as much like a turkey as
Steve does. His girls lost to my girls in the State Championship. LIONS
RULE! Sorry Steve, had to do it. <G>

 It was sure good to meet you and all the others. Nice to put a face to the
names. Course I'll remember the faces for ever and forget the names in a
week (or less). We do have a nice bunch of folks on both lists (History list
and MLML)

Crawdad and me are planning on putting that turkey call to good use this
spring, Hawk. Wish us luck. I remain......

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'




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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 02:33:42 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (JON MARINETTI)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Saddle Soap

John H. Fiebing, operating on a very limited budget and a vision,
started the Fiebing Chemical Company in 1895 after working in the
chemical department of Pfister & Vogel. At that particular time in
history, Milwaukee was one of the best cities to start a leather care
company as Milwaukee was built on the fact that it was the center for
buying, selling and trading various items to the areas Indians for furs
and then transported them to places such as Mackinac and Detroit. As
time passed, more and more people settled where the Milwaukee River
spilled into Lake Michigan. Many of the people settling in Milwaukee,
like John Fiebing, came from Germany.

One of the first products Fiebing manufactured was Saddle Soap. The
Saddle Soap soon became so popular that the U.S. Cavalry at Fort Riley,
Kansas was using great quantities of it to clean and preserve their
saddles, tack and other leather equipment. Fiebing products became so
familiar with the Cavalry that the company logo portrayed a mounted
Cavalryman, a logo that stands to this day.

In the early 1900's the demand for quality horse care and saddle care
products was booming as the horse was the main mode of transportation
throughout the country. Almost all working horses were equipped with
leather harnesses and leather saddles, all required constant care. This
also opened the opportunity for horse care products such as Hoof
Dressing, which has been a staple for a century.

The Fiebing Company has grown to become one of the largest manufacturers
of Leather Dye in the world. The Leather Dyes and Finishes are used by
saddle makers and Belt makers around the world. All of this led into the
variety of polishes, cleaners and conditioners that are currently
manufactured at the original site. The Fiebing Company also owns the
George J. Kelly Shoe Polish Company and the Snow Proof Company and all
of these products are manufactured in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 03:29:36 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The archives

John you don't know the meaning of Courtesy: Jumpin on people for askin a
question and others for answerin it ain't countess just because it had been
talk bout once before does not mean it cannot and should not be revisited, so
something else maybe added. Cutting off thread before it gets started is
rude. I owe you no courtesy until you so me some. if I'm a readin between the
lines right you don't like the way I post. Well, let me tell you something. I
am a dyslectic one finger typper that don't know nothing about computers that
graduated out of high school with a fourth grade reading a spelling ability.
I Have worked on it all my adult life my reading has improved from all the
reading I have done on the history of the fur trade. But my writing and
spelling skills still suck. So don't go whining to me how much work you put
into a post. But when it comes to mountain doins I'll shine in any Group.
Even you egg heads. I tried readin the Archives once had to wade through a
lot of bull OT get to any beef. So what should I do start at the top and read
my through to make sure I did not miss any thing that might come up.
{ That is the courtesy due those busy people who have taken the time } Thanks
For Taken my time this post has taken me three hours.

   Crazy Cyot

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 03:49:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The archives

Thanks for the post c'yote.  Enjoyed it.

john

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:51:11 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

I'm sorrey for out burst to list. John in joy your high horse you ride. I'm
quitting the list.

                                            see ya on the trail
                                            Crazy Cyot

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:23:44 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag

Allen,
Can you bring it with you to Fort Bridger? Could youre Wife make one that I
can purchase?
Ole #718
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>From: Allen Hall <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag
>Date: Sun, Mar 12, 2000, 9:00 PM
>

>Hello the Camp,
>
>I'm sitting here looking at the (a?) AMM flag.  George sent it to me to have
>copied so that we can have one in the display.  As previously noted the top
>is a light sky blue, the middle green and the bottom a light brown.  The
>logo in the center has a blue field.  In green letters around the edge is
>the American Mountain Men.  The center of the logo is a powder horn and knife.
>
>Hope this helps.  My wife does banners and such and is going to copy this
>for the Pinedale exhibit.
>
>YMOS,
>
>Allen
>Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:49:08 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

Crazy, don't let the rudeness of one or two people who take pleasure in
being less than civil and then bragging about it drive you into the very
action they seem to get their kicks from. For you to quit the list would
only give them the pleasure they can get no other way. Just ignore them or
tell to kiss your rosy red - then ignore them anyway.
Bill Cunningham
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!


>I'm sorrey for out burst to list. John in joy your high horse you ride. I'm
>quitting the list.
>
>                                            see ya on the trail
>                                            Crazy Cyot
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:15:57 -0800
From: "Poorboy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: Fw: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

>poorboy---
>are you a member of the AMM?????   Have you ever been asked to join????
>has anyone said that they would sponser you????   dont understand your
>post or the reason for it.   Am I missing something in a previous post or
>something----what is your point in one sentence????

>dont want to be one of those obnoxious people or anything but?????
>dont really understand your post or the reason behind it?????what is RMFT
>persona---????


Klahowya Hawk,
You ask far too many questions to be answered in one sentence, but here
goes... No I am not a member, Yes I was asked years ago, No I did not accept
at that time.

I have already explained that I was not very impressed by the first AMM
members I experienced, but opinions and levels of wisdom change.
I apologize for even raising the membership question, I see now that it was
in poor taste on my part.
My post was intended to respond to a previous post  which I perceived to be
condescending to another concerning revisiting history.  The thread
developed and has now taken two lines.
The discussion then continued with posts concerning accuracy in historical
reenacting, the responsibility of reenactors to decide on a level of
authenticity, strive for that goal, and admit to themselves and others as to
that level.
In short, There is room for all of us in the way of life.  Some participate
to learn the skills only, some participate because they like to play dress
up, and some strive to recreate history as accurately as is possible given
there level of research.  All are OK, but each of us must be willing to
admit which level we are at and not pass ourselves off as another.
And yes you are right, I blew my own horn for a while, but then I have no
intention of blowing someone else's.  I enjoy listening to them make there
own kinds of beautiful music.


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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:48:19 -0600
From: Jim Lindberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call

Life in the city, I've mentioned the wildlife I've seen from my office
before (white-tailed deer, bald eagles, ducks, geese, fox), I can now
add turkeys to that list.  Saw about 12 of them between our building and
the river scratching around.  Noticed a couple of toms.  To bad it's
city, it'd be a great place to hunt.

Jim

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1980 08:20:13 -0800
From: Angela Gottfred <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ

John Kramer <[e-mail]> wrote:
This subject has been beat to death over and over in the archives.  Read
them.

Crazy Cyot <[e-mail]> replied:
I did not know when I came on this list that I had to study the archives
before I could try help someone with a question or study all the archives
before asking a question.

Gentlemen:
It sounds to me like we could use a FAQ--a list of Frequently-Asked
Questions, accompanied by links to their answers in the archives. New
list members could receive the FAQ as soon as they sign up, or be
politely referred to the FAQ if they ask a question that's on it. (I
checked with Dean Rudy, our list owner, and compiling a FAQ is okay with
him.) The FAQ wouldn't be the end of the discussion on the questions, but
rather, would keep people like John Kramer (and me, come to think of it)
from having to answer the same question over and over again.

It won't happen, though, unless we get a number of people (8-10) to
volunteer to be compilers. That way, each compiler would only have to
take a piece of our rather large archives.  John Kramer? Laura Rugel
Glise? Crazy Cyot? Lee Newbill? This could be a chance to make a
substantial contribution to the list. I'm willing to coordinate the whole
thing, or pass it on to somebody with more time and/or experience.

Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:06:03 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

Crazy,
I agree with bill completly, don't quite.
Ole # 718
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>From: [e-mail] (Bill Cunningham)
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
>Date: Mon, Mar 13, 2000, 8:49 AM
>

>Crazy, don't let the rudeness of one or two people who take pleasure in
>being less than civil and then bragging about it drive you into the very
>action they seem to get their kicks from. For you to quit the list would
>only give them the pleasure they can get no other way. Just ignore them or
>tell to kiss your rosy red - then ignore them anyway.
>Bill Cunningham
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 1:52 AM
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!
>
>
>>I'm sorrey for out burst to list. John in joy your high horse you ride. I'm
>>quitting the list.
>>
>>                                            see ya on the trail
>>                                            Crazy Cyot
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:15:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Schrotter <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Random thoughts

Crazy, don't quit the list over John. He has always
been a pain, but will cover your back in a heartbeat.
I have enjoyed your posts, as have many others.  Keep
it up!
Buck, thanks for the support on the flag.  I couldn't
remember the green stripe, but thought there might be
one.
Ole, will try to get to Bridgers birthday bash, but am
working nightshift so can make no promises.  Which day
would be best to catch you?
Rendezvous is still the best place of supply, but some
of the large ones can sure drive ya crazy.  It was
always the horse rides in that were the best part.
The experience gained and the friendship shared were
and are the best, and are still invaluable.  You learn
more about yourself and your brothers than you ever
will in camp.
Sorry to take up so much of the lists time, my
apologies to all.  Keep your nose to the wind and your
eyes on the skyline, Dog, GHB

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:57:29 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

bill c:
what do you want for a pint--I usto use it in the tempering and hardening
of frizzens and springs---best there is---let me know the "bill de fair"
to include shipping---might be interested---

    "HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
e-mail:   [e-mail]  web
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:51:16 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call

CPT L.
stroke her light and at a slight angle to get it to pur and tap it at a
slight angle to get the cluck---for the lost hen just start the stroke
slow and speed up at the end of the stroke---BTW---which one did you
pick---the burl walnut or the fancy maple dark stained body---those were
the two i liked ---they all had good sounds out of them---shoot sharp and
send me a picture of that bird you get---and mix a few bb's with that
regular shot load for best results and further range---


    "HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:12:51 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag

allen
what is the pinedale exhibit that you are speaking of---did the AMM
finaly get a place to displat their stuff---one of the members several
years ago was holding a bunch of stuff for it---

   "HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
e-mail:   [e-mail]  web
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:00:51 -0700 Allen Hall <[e-mail]> writes:
> Hello the Camp,
>
> I'm sitting here looking at the (a?) AMM flag.  George sent it to me
> to have
> copied so that we can have one in the display.  As previously noted
> the top
> is a light sky blue, the middle green and the bottom a light brown.
> The
> logo in the center has a blue field.  In green letters around the
> edge is
> the American Mountain Men.  The center of the logo is a powder horn
> and knife.
>
> Hope this helps.  My wife does banners and such and is going to copy
> this
> for the Pinedale exhibit.
>
> YMOS,
>
> Allen
> Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:23:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Schrotter <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: spectacles

I still have not gotten a reply as to the price of
specacles during the fur trade.  Anyone know?  I only
ask as I need mine so badly, and it must have been a
hardship for folks in those days.  Dog, GHB
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:32:17 -0500
From: "John Hunt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: AMM members

     I have been a guest at several AMM National events. I was made to feel
at home by all members there. They are a friendly group.  I`ve stayed in the
AMM camp at Mississinewa. I ate their food and pulled from there jugs. I
brought things to share also. I was a guest of Dennis M. I ask question
about my gear. The inappropriate things were left at home or were changed to
meet their standards. Not a problem on my part. A friend and my self were
invited back by ALL members in the camp. If we had done wrong we would of
been corrected by our host. Members in the camp never criticized or
condemned us to my knowledge. When others were ask their opinion about
anything, foods, gear, clothing, ect, ect, they gave polite answers to help
us. As we talked on subjects that we knew nothing about we were shown how to
do various things by anyone we talked to.

     I`m sure there are grumpy and rude members as in ANY OTHER group, I`ve
never seen or met one yet.

     I`m not an AMM member. Do to circumstances beyond my control at this
time I wouldn`t be able to meet their obligations for membership. I wouldn`t
want to ask for membership and then let down my sponsors, their good
friends.

     My opinion!!!! If my gear is correct enough to go into an AMM camp then
I will be correct enough for  ANY CAMP of the fur trade time period.

     Nuff sed.


John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
Longhunter
Mountainman
southwest  Ohio


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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:46:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call/hunting

In a message dated 3/12/00 9:54:13 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I don't know if it sounds as much like a turkey as

Steve does.  >>

Ho Capt.

Haaaaaa! ...... You could have heard me "YELPIN" at your camp all the way
from the Tacoma Dome!

<<His girls lost to my girls in the State Championship. LIONS

RULE! Sorry Steve, had to do it. <G>>>

The game was ours till the last 2 seconds when the "Kittens" threw the ball
in the general direction of the hoop and it fell in to tie the game....
Capt... it sure was sumtin to see.....<G>

Good meeting you boys too.... and sure liked that little flask ya had. See if
you can bang another one together for me (full) before you get much older and
feeble......

I forgot to ask you about the turkey hunting. You boys ever manage to poke
one of them critters with a muzzle loader? Are you usin your 20ga fusil and
if so what size shot/load? We're gonna be huntin up around Orient (NE WA)
....suppose to be a plague of turkeys round there... Gotta a cabin up there
too if you boys are tired of being cold and wet..... <G>

Ymos,
Steve





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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:47:28 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ

angela
would also help if i can but i do not have accedd to the web using juno
as my e-mail methodology---some of the members of the list are in the
same boat---when i need to go on the internet i have to go to someone els
or whatever to research--- give me a subject and i will make you a FAQ
then you guys can read and correct my english and grammer and such will
have to do it in my spare time if i ever have any---

I understand where both of them are coming from as well as you do---we
seem to always being going back to the same subject and same answers on a
lot of things and after a point it gets rediculus posting and rewriting
the same thing ---I get to a point i dont have time to read the
extranious msg traffic it would truly help when someone would have a FAQ
to read that they could be refered to---on deans web site---solve a lot
of problems thats for sure along with the personal feelings if you wear
them on your sholder much---or try to read between the lines--

let me know your wishes---

YMHOSANT
     =+=
    "HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
e-mail:   [e-mail]  web
site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce


On Thu, 13 Mar 1980 08:20:13 -0800 Angela Gottfred
<[e-mail]> writes:
> John Kramer <[e-mail]> wrote:
> This subject has been beat to death over and over in the archives.
> Read
> them.
>
> Crazy Cyot <[e-mail]> replied:
> I did not know when I came on this list that I had to study the
> archives
> before I could try help someone with a question or study all the
> archives
> before asking a question.
>
> Gentlemen:
> It sounds to me like we could use a FAQ--a list of Frequently-Asked
> Questions, accompanied by links to their answers in the archives.
> New
> list members could receive the FAQ as soon as they sign up, or be
> politely referred to the FAQ if they ask a question that's on it. (I
>
> checked with Dean Rudy, our list owner, and compiling a FAQ is okay
> with
> him.) The FAQ wouldn't be the end of the discussion on the
> questions, but
> rather, would keep people like John Kramer (and me, come to think of
> it)
> from having to answer the same question over and over again.
>
> It won't happen, though, unless we get a number of people (8-10) to
> volunteer to be compilers. That way, each compiler would only have
> to
> take a piece of our rather large archives.  John Kramer? Laura Rugel
>
> Glise? Crazy Cyot? Lee Newbill? This could be a chance to make a
> substantial contribution to the list. I'm willing to coordinate the
> whole
> thing, or pass it on to somebody with more time and/or experience.
>
> Your humble & obedient servant,
> Angela Gottfred
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:11:35 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Turkey Call

Hawk,

I guess I picked the one you describe as "fancy maple dark stained body". It
sure was a beaut'. I have played with it a bit and am getting some good
sounds (no experience so who am I to say what my sounds are like <G>) but I
will reread your suggestions and work on all. Thanks again and hopefully a
picture will be forthcoming. I remain.....

YMOS
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:28:38 -0700
From: Allen Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Flag

Hawk and others around the campfire,

The AMM has an exhibit that will be up and ready on April 1 of this year.
It will located in the Museum of the Mountain Man in Pinedale, WY.

We are trying to display some of the material culture of the mountain man,
specifically items that haven't survived but we know existed.  The display
has come along very nicely, and the vast majority of it are items made by
AMM members.

If you're ever out that way, check it out.  Some beautiful country and right
in the heart of the Horse Creek/Green River rendezvous area.  Fort Nonsense
is very nearby as well.

Allen Hall in Fort Hall country

At 09:12 AM 03/13/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>allen
>what is the pinedale exhibit that you are speaking of---did the AMM
>finaly get a place to displat their stuff---one of the members several
>years ago was holding a bunch of stuff for it---
>
>   "HAWK"
>Michael Pierce
>854 Glenfield Dr.             (Home of "Old Grizz"  products)    (C)
>Palm Harbor Florida     34684        Phone:    [phone]
>e-mail:   [e-mail]  web
>site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:00:51 -0700 Allen Hall <[e-mail]> writes:
>> Hello the Camp,
>>
>> I'm sitting here looking at the (a?) AMM flag.  George sent it to me
>> to have
>> copied so that we can have one in the display.  As previously noted
>> the top
>> is a light sky blue, the middle green and the bottom a light brown.
>> The
>> logo in the center has a blue field.  In green letters around the
>> edge is
>> the American Mountain Men.  The center of the logo is a powder horn
>> and knife.
>>
>> Hope this helps.  My wife does banners and such and is going to copy
>> this
>> for the Pinedale exhibit.
>>
>> YMOS,
>>
>> Allen
>> Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:36:30 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ho the list!!

Crazy, Don't fall into the trap that so many others have; we've lost some
great people like you because of the sometimes thoughtless words of a few
(the same ones who seem to have the talent to make people feel
unknowledgable, unwelcome or unqualified to join the AMM).  This is not the
majority. I am not in the AMM, but can tell you after having been on the
ground with them at Rendezvous, most of them will help you with any aspect of
the culture you need, and as was said about John, will protect your back at
all costs whent the chips are down.  Some of these 'boys' forget they too
were green once, and that they must have asked some questions that had
already been answered a hundred times before. Your posts are well thought out
and presented, and are appreciated by more of us than not. Looking forward to
seeing more of your input to the list.    Barney Fife

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:41:26 -0600
From: "northwoods" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ

If you feel that there is anything I can do I would be more than happy to
assist. I have "gotten" a lot out of this list, It would please me greatly
to try and "give" something back to it if I were able.

northwoods


- -----Original Message-----
From: Angela Gottfred <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: March 13, 2000 9:52 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Mtn-Man FAQ


>John Kramer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>This subject has been beat to death over and over in the archives.  Read
>them.
>
>Crazy Cyot <[e-mail]> replied:
>I did not know when I came on this list that I had to study the archives
>before I could try help someone with a question or study all the archives
>before asking a question.
>
>Gentlemen:
>It sounds to me like we could use a FAQ--a list of Frequently-Asked
>Questions, accompanied by links to their answers in the archives. New
>list members could receive the FAQ as soon as they sign up, or be
>politely referred to the FAQ if they ask a question that's on it. (I
>checked with Dean Rudy, our list owner, and compiling a FAQ is okay with
>him.) The FAQ wouldn't be the end of the discussion on the questions, but
>rather, would keep people like John Kramer (and me, come to think of it)
>from having to answer the same question over and over again.
>
>It won't happen, though, unless we get a number of people (8-10) to
>volunteer to be compilers. That way, each compiler would only have to
>take a piece of our rather large archives.  John Kramer? Laura Rugel
>Glise? Crazy Cyot? Lee Newbill? This could be a chance to make a
>substantial contribution to the list. I'm willing to coordinate the whole
>thing, or pass it on to somebody with more time and/or experience.
>
>Your humble & obedient servant,
>Angela Gottfred
>
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