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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #468 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, February 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 468 In this issue: -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-List obedient servants -áááááá MtMan-List: college lecture on the fur trade -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt (somewhat windy) -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt (somewhat windy) -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A place to get good sewing thread -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: college lecture on the fur trade -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt (somewhat windy) -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt -áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Turkey Calls -áááááá MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:08:52 -0600 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:08:52 -0600 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes -áááááá Re: MtMan-List:Turkey Calls ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:06:20 -0500 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette Hey Tom, You are right.. Woman/Servent.. sorta interchangeable...<BG> Digging a hole in Ohio D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 "Knowing How Is Only The Beginning" - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:30:06 -0500 From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette I have a feeling there may be someone else in Ohio who would gladly heap shovelfuls of glowing embers on top of you as you lay in the bottom of that hole, should she catch wind of your thought! <G> T Dennis Miles wrote: > Hey Tom, > You are right.. Woman/Servent.. sorta interchangeable...<BG> > Digging a hole in Ohio > D > > "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Period Knives & Iron Accouterments > http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 > "Knowing How Is Only The Beginning" > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:15:19 EST From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-List obedient servants I think all men should sign their posts obedient servants, and remember they should be just that to all us women! Here is a book that will really make all you women mad, and all you men lust for times of old! This book is why I have decided to go the way of the woman warrior- Watch out guys, I'm out for scalps! Here is just a sample of Alexander Henry the Younger's journal.... " The Crows had a handsome slave girl, about 12 years of age, who was offered to us for a gun, 100 balls, and enough powder to fire them; but those rascally Big Bellies would not allow us to purchase her, saying they wanted her for themselves." An alliance with an Indian woman was formed without the bothersome complications of love or ceremony. " Livernois exchanged his mare for a young wife of about 8 years of age." "There are a few freemen about this place who have actually disposed of their women to the H.B. co's people in barter for beat meat." Such sales were often made by voyageurs returning to civilization and were disposing of their wives at bargain prices. I know we should not judge them by the values of the 20th century, but 8 years old is still a child to me! Crazy says "them trappers was just trying to get a woman young enough they could train them right, and obviously by the rate of resales, a lot of them womens are just spoilt at birth- goes to show! What a concept. it sets a fellow to dreaming, don't it? " { What I say is you better watch out Crazy, cause your dreams could turn into nightmares!} This book is Daughters of the Country, by Walter Omeara Scalphunter, Jill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:35:24 EST From: Hawkengun@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: college lecture on the fur trade I recently was invited to lecture on the fru trade for a colleague's college= =20 US History class here in Colo Spgs. I thought I'd post my lecture outline=20 and see if any of you want give me some feedback, critical or otherwise. The Rocky Mountain Fur Trade Era 1803-1846 Commerce, Geo-politics and Multi-Culturalism in the trans-Mississippi Wilderness Main Points: =20 =B7 The fur trade took place in the political and cultural frontier=20 "borderlands" (or "middle=20 ground") that separated the various European, American and Native American=20 powers that vied for control of the American West. =B7 "Fur-trade society" was a multi-cultural society, and its members lived=20= in=20 the margins that=20 lay between the various European and Native American cultures. =B7 Fur traders and trappers served (often unintentionally) as agents of=20 westward expansion. I. Origins of the American Fur Trade Fine fur was a precious commodity in Europe (and Asia), and was the only=20 valuable product to come out of northern North America during the early=20 colonial period. A. The French-Canadians =20 =20 1) Quebec was a colony found upon and supported by the fur trade. 2) French-Canadian voyageurs explored down the Ohio and Mississippi Valleys,= =20 across the Great Plains, over the Rockies and even to the Pacific Coast on=20 trapping and trading expeditions. 3) Even after the English conquest of Canada in 1763, the English fur-tradin= g=20 firms (Hudson's Bay Co. and the Northwest Co.) employed mainly=20 French-Canadian trappers. =20 4) French cultural impact was apparent in cities like St. Louis and in the=20 wilderness, as well: a. French place names=20 b. Met=ECs culture B. The English Fur Trade 1) Early on, the English had engaged in the fur trade, but had never matched= =20 French=20 success. 2) English dominance of eastern North America had allowed English firms to=20 dominate the fur market. By 1800 trading posts were established from=20 Hudson's Bay to the Great Lakes to the Pacific Coast. C. The Spanish Fur trade 1) Restricted to trading with the distant merchants in Mexico, the New=20 Mexican fur=20 trade was small scale, but critical to the economies of Taos and Santa Fe. II. The American Fur Trade A. Since colonial times Americans had been engaged in the fur trade, but th= e=20 =20 Louisiana Purchase opened up vast, unexplored regions for trapping and=20 trading. B. The Lewis & Clark Expedition mapped some of the USA's new trapping=20 territory and produced the first "mountain men." C. Much of the American fur trade was controlled by New York businessman=20 John=20 Jacob Astor's American Fur Co., but smaller St. Louis-based firms competed=20 for a portion of the trade. Innovations included: a) Use of white trappers cut-out the expense of paying Indians for the furs=20 (also proved more productive.) b) Rendezvous-system; pack-trains traveled from St. Louis with supplies and=20 equipment to trade with the white trappers ("mountain men"), allowing them t= o=20 spend more months afield, and eliminating the need for a costly permanent=20 trading post.=20 III. Fur-Trade Society Although fur-trade companies' policy reflected the interests of the nations=20 where they were from, the trappers and traders (and their families) composed= =20 a society that was an amalgam of different ethnicities, languages and=20 nationalities. First generation mountain men came from French, Spanish, Anglo-Saxon, Irish,= =20 German or African backgrounds (and others), but usually married Native=20 American or Hispanic women and their offspring often remained in the=20 fur-trade. The result was a genuinely multi-cultural society. =20 (Recount the story of Sacagawea and the Charbonneau men.) A. Trapping the fur (process described) B. Hazards of the trade 1) Starvation 2) Indian attacks (Recount the tale of John Colter) 3) Grizzlies, rattlers and other critters (Recount the tale of Hugh Glass) 4) Sundry accidents and traumas, resulting from blizzards, raging streams,=20 desert thirst, being kicked in the head by a mule, et. Al. IV. The Decline of the Fur-trade and the Mountain Men as Agents of Westward=20 Expansion By the early-1840s, European fashion trends turned from American beaver to=20 Asian silk, causing the fur market to crash. =20 A. Some mountain men turned used their knowledge of the western wilderness t= o=20 guide=20 merchants on the Santa Fe Trail, emigrants to Oregon and US Government surve= y=20 parties. (Recount the story of Kit Carson and Fremont.)=20 =20 B. Other mountain men moved in with their Indian relatives; some took up=20 residence in NM, so. CO, or OR; but most retired to MO or CA. 1) At the outbreak of the Mexican War in 1846, Fremont and his survey party= h appened to be in CA. Fremont assembled a small force consisting of his=20 original party and local American settlers. Significant numbers of mountain= =20 men filled-out the muster rolls. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:25:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Newbill <lnewbill@uidaho.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt (somewhat windy) Hallo! On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 SWcushing@aol.com wrote: > Sounds like a kinda cold night! Did you use the 10X10 trap as a ground cloth > or for your shelter? Wrapped it around the blankets like a sausage casing<G> I was fortunate in that others had already thrown up canvas to break the wind and reflect what little heat there was... also, I do not think the mercury ever dropped much below freezing, which helped considerably in the fight to stay warm! > The coldest I've been, other than fallin through the > ice Been there, done that, don't wanna go there ever again! > has been when the ground draws the heat from you.....warm on top, > freezin on the bottom! I think that is the biggest problem faced when trying to keep warm.. you have to breake that cold from the ground before you worry about anything else... cause no matter how many blankets me stout old legs pack in, if the ground is stealing my heat... I'm gonna spend a cold night. > Tell us what size and style your snow shoes were.... they are 36" by 10", and a friend of mine who knows, calls them a highly modified, recreational, best-to-hang-them-on-the-wall snowshoes. Not high praise I gathered. they didna work too bad, but the snow conditions were pretty well packed, so I didna sink out of sight. From what I've read since using them for the first time last weekend, I should probably be on shoes at least 60" long by 12" wide for my weight, and the weight of the pack on my back. The 36"x10" are rated for right around 100 lbs.. a weight I haven't seen since right around 1968. > and just how "round" you are. Well!! I'm trying to be offended, but when you as perfect and as goodlooking as I am.. it's tough <VBG>... 200 lbs at 5'10", not real round, but not a sapling by any means! Your Most Obedient Servant... Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:35:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Newbill <lnewbill@uidaho.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt (somewhat windy) Hallo Randal! On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Randal J Bublitz wrote: > Hi Lee, I'd suggest one, or two, of those Celtic pins for keeping > your blakets in place and together. Actually, i'm at odds on whether to use the pins, or to sew ties on the blankets, both would accomplish the same thing, but the pins are proably more versatile.... and I'm not sure of the reception I would get from me darling wife when I put ties on two mint condition whitneys... she is not an understanding dear all the time! > I fold the > bottom edge up a foot and pin in place. That, has always been the drawback to rolling up in blankets. the feet always find the way out. I will try that next time I'm out, thanks. > I asked him about it. As it turns out, he was heating rocks (about > football size, more or less) in the fire. I've heard of this trick, and some really funny near disasters with it too! Unfortunately, most places I go up here either lack for rocks, or they are under 3-4 feet of snow. But I will try that the next opportunity I get. At least around the feet area, which always seems to be the first to cool down. Friend of mine's boy earned his name "Hotrocks" due to a mishap with heated blanket rocks... seems he got them a leetle too close to his "personal" space... and had to extricate himself from the situation in a most undignified manner<G> Your Most Obedient Servant... Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:58:36 -0500 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette Tom, I sent that looong after she was in bed and asleep and then got rid of the evidence, post haste...<G> I can be a smarta**.. But I am no fool... Hope to see you next month.. D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:14:16 EST From: CTOAKES@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A place to get good sewing thread Hello in the camp, I went looking for a supply of linen, flax or hemp thread for sewing cloths and leather. And after seeing all the small expensive spools at Tandy and other Black Powder suppliers I had almost given up. Then I took a pair of boots into my local shoe repair man. He had a 4 in 1, 100% flax thread he used on his sole stitching machine. The product he had is Barbour's Pure Flax Sinew for lock stitch machines #4 cord. It is all natural I did a burn test on it. They call it Grey but it is just a natural off white. Comes in 1354 yard spools which should last me a life time. Barbour's made or supplied by Blue Mountain Industries, Blue Mountain, Alabama 36201. My shoe repair guy told me any shoe repair shop can order this or a like brand for you. I paid $30 for the spool, less than a penny a foot which is not bad when you look at the fact it can be untwisted to four finer threads for sewing fabric. Your humble servant, C.T. Oakes Waiting for the spring thaw. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:23:12 -0800 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: college lecture on the fur trade You may want to consider what the colonial period was. In the 1700s there were operating gold and silver mines in Maine and Ga., lead mines in other places. Also, the rendezvous for fur traders at Fort Davy Crocket went on until 1858 - Beaver didn't play a big part there, but all other furs did. - -----Original Message----- From: Hawkengun@aol.com <Hawkengun@aol.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:36 AM Subject: MtMan-List: college lecture on the fur trade I recently was invited to lecture on the fru trade for a colleague's college US History class here in Colo Spgs. I thought I'd post my lecture outline and see if any of you want give me some feedback, critical or otherwise. The Rocky Mountain Fur Trade Era 1803-1846 Commerce, Geo-politics and Multi-Culturalism in the trans-Mississippi Wilderness Main Points: ╖ The fur trade took place in the political and cultural frontier "borderlands" (or "middle ground") that separated the various European, American and Native American powers that vied for control of the American West. ╖ "Fur-trade society" was a multi-cultural society, and its members lived in the margins that lay between the various European and Native American cultures. ╖ Fur traders and trappers served (often unintentionally) as agents of westward expansion. I. Origins of the American Fur Trade Fine fur was a precious commodity in Europe (and Asia), and was the only valuable product to come out of northern North America during the early colonial period. A. The French-Canadians 1) Quebec was a colony found upon and supported by the fur trade. 2) French-Canadian voyageurs explored down the Ohio and Mississippi Valleys, across the Great Plains, over the Rockies and even to the Pacific Coast on trapping and trading expeditions. 3) Even after the English conquest of Canada in 1763, the English fur-trading firms (Hudson's Bay Co. and the Northwest Co.) employed mainly French-Canadian trappers. 4) French cultural impact was apparent in cities like St. Louis and in the wilderness, as well: a. French place names b. Met∞s culture B. The English Fur Trade 1) Early on, the English had engaged in the fur trade, but had never matched French success. 2) English dominance of eastern North America had allowed English firms to dominate the fur market. By 1800 trading posts were established from Hudson's Bay to the Great Lakes to the Pacific Coast. C. The Spanish Fur trade 1) Restricted to trading with the distant merchants in Mexico, the New Mexican fur trade was small scale, but critical to the economies of Taos and Santa Fe. II. The American Fur Trade A. Since colonial times Americans had been engaged in the fur trade, but the Louisiana Purchase opened up vast, unexplored regions for trapping and trading. B. The Lewis & Clark Expedition mapped some of the USA's new trapping territory and produced the first "mountain men." C. Much of the American fur trade was controlled by New York businessman John Jacob Astor's American Fur Co., but smaller St. Louis-based firms competed for a portion of the trade. Innovations included: a) Use of white trappers cut-out the expense of paying Indians for the furs (also proved more productive.) b) Rendezvous-system; pack-trains traveled from St. Louis with supplies and equipment to trade with the white trappers ("mountain men"), allowing them to spend more months afield, and eliminating the need for a costly permanent trading post. III. Fur-Trade Society Although fur-trade companies' policy reflected the interests of the nations where they were from, the trappers and traders (and their families) composed a society that was an amalgam of different ethnicities, languages and nationalities. First generation mountain men came from French, Spanish, Anglo-Saxon, Irish, German or African backgrounds (and others), but usually married Native American or Hispanic women and their offspring often remained in the fur-trade. The result was a genuinely multi-cultural society. (Recount the story of Sacagawea and the Charbonneau men.) A. Trapping the fur (process described) B. Hazards of the trade 1) Starvation 2) Indian attacks (Recount the tale of John Colter) 3) Grizzlies, rattlers and other critters (Recount the tale of Hugh Glass) 4) Sundry accidents and traumas, resulting from blizzards, raging streams, desert thirst, being kicked in the head by a mule, et. Al. IV. The Decline of the Fur-trade and the Mountain Men as Agents of Westward Expansion By the early-1840s, European fashion trends turned from American beaver to Asian silk, causing the fur market to crash. A. Some mountain men turned used their knowledge of the western wilderness to guide merchants on the Santa Fe Trail, emigrants to Oregon and US Government survey parties. (Recount the story of Kit Carson and Fremont.) B. Other mountain men moved in with their Indian relatives; some took up residence in NM, so. CO, or OR; but most retired to MO or CA. 1) At the outbreak of the Mexican War in 1846, Fremont and his survey party h appened to be in CA. Fremont assembled a small force consisting of his original party and local American settlers. Significant numbers of mountain men filled-out the muster rolls. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:44:15 -0700 From: agottfre@telusplanet.net (Angela Gottfred) Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette Laura Glise <Wind1838@aol.com> wrote: >Do you think it would be proper for a woman to sign her post >YMOS >Or is the phrase genderspecific? If so, what would you suggest? ("Humbly", >is out of the question.) As Steve Cushing pointed out, I usually sign myself "Your humble & obedient servant" or "Your very humble & most obedient servant". However, I learned my etiquette from a number of _gentlemen_ fur traders, who were usually writing business letters. I have been told that it was more appropriate for a lady to sign herself "Your obliged and obedient servant" (which I now do, sometimes) or "Your affectionate servant", which I think could be misunderstood in a modern context. (Signing myself as "humble & obedient" can be confusing enough!) I believe it was proper for both ladies and gentlemen to sign themselves "Your friend", if that was who they were writing to. Don't take "humble & obedient" literally--I've seen it at the end of more than one prideful & insubordinate period letter! Also, I haven't seen any letters prior to 1821 signed with "YHOS", "YVH&MOS", or similar abbreviations, although they sometimes would write "Your &c." I don't know about after 1821, however. Maybe someone else can fill us in? For more on the proper way for a lady to sign her letters, join the 18cWoman list at onelist.com, and look at the early archived digests. Your obliged &c &c, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:23:19 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes northwoods whose catalog did you get that has the shellak flakes for sale---can you get me on their mailing list---would appreciate it--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http:\\angelfire.com\fl2\mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:16:58 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt (somewhat windy) lee--- simple solution that will not put holes in them blankets---carry 2 leather whangs---cut 2 fairly straight sticks about a ft wider than your blankets when folded---lay your blankets out like you are making your bed---take the sticks place one under the blanket and one over the blanket---use the leather whangs and lash the sticks together sealing the bottom of the blanket---have also used 3 sticks and put one in the fold and one on top and one on bottom---if you roll a lot in sleeping it will also slow that down (GBG)---this keeps the things that you have to carry to the lightst weight possible---(importany to me) since I only weigh about 150 lbs and my ruck is usually to big (or heavy) to start with--- simple solution---might work for you---cpt L might give you more imput on this---saw this done by the indian scouts in alaska when i was there as an adviser--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http:\\angelfire.com\fl2\mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! 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For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:41:32 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Proper etiquette laura YMOS as i understand it stands for --" Your Most Obedient Servent " and was used as a closure for correspondance in the time span that we are of interest in---only in todays world do we add a gender to its meaning---Cpt L probably can go in depth on its usage---he explained it to me at one time---as to proper etiquette I cannot say---I have added to some of my closures YMHOSANT which has a whole different meaning---you might research some of the older feminine correspondance and see if it was used or is proper---since we all come to this list as equal---without gender being specified unless by our closure or signature--- I personally feel it probably would be acceptable ---that is to your discression---not trying to belittle a femaile with the words obedient servant or to make light of their gender ---because it is not of that intent only to submit correspondance for perusal of the list in mass---I thank it's usage may be a mute point---cpt L---your up to bat now--- BTW---we like your posts---you got a lot of good input---keep up the good work YMHOSANT =+= "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http:\\angelfire.com\fl2\mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:18:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Newbill <lnewbill@uidaho.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 hawknest4@juno.com wrote: > to the lightst weight possible---(importany to me) since I only weigh > about 150 lbs and my ruck is usually to big (or heavy) to start with--- Sheesh Hawk... At 150 lbs, I hope you hang on to the trees when the wind blow so you don't float away on the breeze <G> Speaking of rucks... what is a "french knapsack", circa F&I war? Your Most Obedient Servant... Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:55:21 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Turkey Calls In a message dated 2/18/00 8:49:18 AM, hawknest4@juno.com writes: << "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) P >> Hey Hawk....you got any of them ole Turkey Calls around that ya make? I never did get the one you were gonna send a couple years back... and I'd be glad to pay ya what you think is fair. Ymos, Steve Cushing 22324 NE Finn Hill Rd Brush Prairie, WA 98606 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:07:03 -0700 From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:08:52 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BF7A54.5BA8E4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test. Please ignore. My ISP recently freaked out and supposedly is = working now. YMOS or YHOS or is it Your Most Politically Correct & Affirmative Action Compliant Servant Lanney - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BF7A54.5BA8E4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Test. Please ignore. My ISP recently freaked = out and=20 supposedly is working now.</DIV> <DIV>YMOS or YHOS or is it</DIV> <DIV>Your Most Politically Correct & Affirmative Action Compliant=20 Servant</DIV> <DIV>Lanney</DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BF7A54.5BA8E4A0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:17:13 -0800 From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:08:52 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF7A55.8619A660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LORD HELP US ! The little bitty feller is back on line ! <G> Pendleton =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ratcliff <rat@htcomp.net> To: History List <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Cc: AMM <ammlist@lists.xmission.com> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 7:07 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:08:52 -0600 =20 =20 Test. Please ignore. My ISP recently freaked out and supposedly is = working now. YMOS or YHOS or is it Your Most Politically Correct & Affirmative Action Compliant Servant Lanney - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF7A55.8619A660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>LORD HELP US ! The little = bitty feller is=20 back on line ! <G></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Pendleton </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20 </B>Ratcliff <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:rat@htcomp.net">rat@htcomp.net</A>><BR><B>To: = </B>History=20 List <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com= </A>><BR><B>Cc:=20 </B>AMM <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:ammlist@lists.xmission.com">ammlist@lists.xmission.com</A>= ><BR><B>Date:=20 </B>Friday, February 18, 2000 7:07 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>MtMan-List: = Date:=20 Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:08:52 -0600<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV>Test. Please ignore. My ISP recently = freaked out=20 and supposedly is working now.</DIV> <DIV>YMOS or YHOS or is it</DIV> <DIV>Your Most Politically Correct & Affirmative Action = Compliant=20 Servant</DIV> <DIV>Lanney</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF7A55.8619A660-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:43:24 -0600 From: "northwoods" <northwoods@ez-net.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes - -----Original Message----- From: hawknest4@juno.com <hawknest4@juno.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Date: February 18, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes >northwoods >whose catalog did you get that has the shellak flakes for sale---can you >get me on their mailing list---would appreciate it--- Hawk, It's called "The Cutting Edge, Inc." They carry woodworking tools and supplies. I just found the place last week and already have placed and received my first order. It was one of the few places that I could find a decent surgical grade black Arkansas stone. In fact they have a great selection of sharpening equipment and there tools (hand tools) are absolutely top of the line, all the good names. The owners Steve and Terri LeGrue seem like nice folks. I spoke with both over the phone and they answered my questions and shipped my package out pronto. www.cuttingedgetools.com BTW not all of the items on the website are in the catalog and vice versa. northwoods - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:53:24 -0800 From: "jdearing" <jdearing@brick.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Short Winter's Jaunt- snowshoes >Wood is readily bent with dry heat. It is the only accepted method for >straightening (another form of bending) specialty products like split Tonkin >cane bamboo fly rods. >Finish the wood work thru final sanding and burnishing; then holding in your >hands move back and forth and rotate the work in your hands over a direct >flame I attended a self bow making workshop last summer and we were bending reflex, and straightening really snaky osage bow blanks with a heat gun. It really worked wonders on those bow blanks. Not period by any means, but real effective. J.D. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:24:33 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Turkey Calls got a bunch (4 dozen)in process right now for chip---will pull one out and box for you and ship about monday if that is ok---sorry if i missed sending you one---This darn puter crashes some times and i looks a lot of my addresses that i need to ship to---so no problem---also because i didnt ketch you last time will hand select one with pretty wood--- have a couple with pretty tiger maple backs---some walnut and some cherry and all let me know your preference for wood---you want a cloth bag--- Hawk--- On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:55:21 EST SWcushing@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 2/18/00 8:49:18 AM, hawknest4@juno.com writes: > > << "HAWK" > Michael Pierce > 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) > > P >> > > Hey Hawk....you got any of them ole Turkey Calls around that ya > make? I never > did get the one you were gonna send a couple years back... and I'd > be glad to > pay ya what you think is fair. > Ymos, > Steve Cushing > 22324 NE Finn Hill Rd > Brush Prairie, WA 98606 > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http:\\angelfire.com\fl2\mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! 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