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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:45:52 -0500
From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Brittle Hide
Dealing with a very old, very thin, and very brittle cased hide.
Wondering whether there is any treatment (mink oil?)
which soften and help preserve this hide so as to be able
to sew the tears without more tearing.
Thanks!
Tom
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Date: 20 Jan 2000 19:32:51 -0800
From: Buck Conner <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Guns of the fur trade
On Thu, 20 January 2000, R Lahti wrote:
I was thus left to wonder. Any one have any input? I remain....
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> YMOS
> Capt. Lahti'
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Here's some information out of a couple dozen sources, see article Capt. at URL bottom of this page.
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BOARD OF ORDNANCE INDIAN GUNS
1813, 1814, 1815, 1816
This is just a very small part of the details available on the contractors and the numbers of firearms supplied in a few years as shown, good example of arms beginning supplied.
Administration of Indian Gifts was handled by the BOARD OF TRADE during the first half of the 18th century and customary for the BOARD OF ORDNANCE to supply the firearms, gunpowder and lead, all included in those gifts. This practice stopped in 1753 for some reason that's not clear when reading supply lists. From this period on the BOARD OF TRADE furnished the orders for arms and choose who was to build them. In 1755 the contractor of choice was Richard Wilson of Minories, London. Wilson and his son, William continued to supply arms for the North American Indian trade well into the mid 1790's.
The number shown with the contractor's name is the quantity sold to the Ordnance Stores from 1813 to 1816.
Some of the contractors involved in supplying arms:
David BLAIR (at his death his widow took over) 781
Jane Hannah BLAIR 538
Samuel & William DAWES 1,048
Samuel GALTON 2,557
John GILL 943
Thomas HAMPTON 1,135
Richard & William HOLLIS 1,215
KETLAND & ALLPORT 2,779
KETLAND & WALKER & CO. 2,983
Thomas LOWNDES 1,267
MORRIS & GRICE 1,821
Thomas MOXHAM 1,532
William J. ROLFE 1,335
Ramsay & Richard SUTHERLAND 2,587
Henry & John WHATELEY 1,580
Robert WHEELER & SON 1,491
WILLETS & HOLDEN 1,194
TOTAL 26,786
Shown below is a list of types of weapons produced for each year of the four years of their contracts.
ARMS 1813 1814 1815 1816 TOTAL
COMMON GUNS 2,911 5,595 3,806 182 12,494
CHIEF'S GUN 3,448 2,934 3,645 91 10,118
RIFLES 0 801 737 0 1,538
PISTOLS 531 1,319 786 0 2,636
_____ _____ _____ ____ ______
6,890 10,969 8,974 273 26,786
Other archives such as the Canadian and British sources should have detailed information on supplies or shipments as well as related items sent to the Indian Trade and who issued them.................
all this and more at new site, listed under weapons, "Success in the Fur Trade".
See URL under my name.
Later
Buck Conner
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:47:02 -0600
From: "Anne MacDonnald" <sabella3@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brittle Hide
try neatsfoot oil...lots of it... you can help it soak in with a hand held
blow dryer on low...
Bf's old hunting boots were brittle, dry... had to be fixed, before I took
them to the bootmaker, did the neatfoot oil thing... two big bottles in
fact... 9 yrs later, they are still soft and supple... if the leather is
very thin, i would suggest maybe a soft paint brush
or you can consult someone who restores old books, they know of chemicals
that can restore thin leather as well..
anne
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From: "tom roberts" <troberts@gdi.net>
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Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:45 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Brittle Hide
> Dealing with a very old, very thin, and very brittle cased hide.
> Wondering whether there is any treatment (mink oil?)
> which soften and help preserve this hide so as to be able
> to sew the tears without more tearing.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom
>
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