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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:59:12 -0700
From: "Barry Conner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: OT Re: MtMan-List: Re: Message Protocol

Angela,
I'm leaving some of your remarks at the bottom of this comment because what
you have stated and what Pat has asked is only common sense. We all like a
joke, just like Dennis has stated and it makes reading a little lighter than
just straight facts day in and day out.

The main concern is we don't make extra work for our web master, Dean. So
lets try and keep our "subject" reference to the item being discussed. this
way Dean doesn't have to read everything that the system kicks out for the
"listing" we all enjoy, Dean has provided a great source for all to enjoy,
so "lets not kill the goose that laid the golden egg" with being over
worked.

I know some will cry about this, but they're not the one doing the work
either, like Pat and Angela have stated use a code in the "subject line" to
tip off the ones not wanting to read "out of text" material and give Dean a
break, he works to hard as it is.

Thanks for your understanding.

Buck Conner

PS

Any of you working for someone else will relate to this joke, wonder if the
fur trade had these problems with management ??

Another Management Plan !!!

This may sound more familiar if you use your company's name in place of the
American Team's name.

The Americans and the Japanese decided to engage in a competitive boat race.
Both teams practiced hard and long to reach their peak performance.

On the big day the Americans felt ready, but the Japanese won by a mile.
Afterward, the American team was discouraged by the loss. Morale sagged.
Corporate management decided that the reason for the crushing defeat had to
be found, so a consulting firm was hired to investigate the problem and
recommended corrective action.

The consultant's finding: The Japanese team had eight people rowing and one
person steering; the American team had one person rowing and eight people
steering.

After a year of study and millions spent analyzing the problem, the
consultant firm concluded that too many people were steering and not enough
were rowing on the American team.

So as the next race day neared the following year, the American team's
management structure was completely reorganized. The new structure: four
steering managers, three area steering managers and a new performance review
system for the person rowing the boat to provide work incentive.

The next year, the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the American
corporation laid off the rower for poor performance and gave the managers a
bonus for discovering the problem.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Angela Gottfred <[e-mail]>


>Pat Quilter's comments are excellent. I'd like to add a couple more tips; I
>hope they will be received in the spirit in which they are offered. This is
>'netiquette' I have learned from other lists.
>
>--If you want to post "chit-chat" (jokes or other stuff not directly
>relevant to the Rocky Mountain fur trade from 1800 to 1850), put "OT" at
the
>beginning of your subject line (like I did with this message). It stands
for
>"off topic", and is a warning to certain list members to delete without
reading.

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:02:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Native American Dogs

In a message dated 3/20/99 1:20:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Dogs used by the Native Americans >>
Smithsonian Magazine, March 1999 goes into the DNA experiment that are going
on right now concerning domestic dog breeds.  The "Carolina Dog" is the main
interest of the article.  It is a "Yaller Dog" (yellow) the kind Southern
Democrats would vote for.  The electronic address is www.smithsonianmag.si.edu

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:20:34 -0800
From: "John Hunt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: 1st beaver skinn`in

     List members;
     At this time I would like to applaud all beaver skinners past and present, Huzzah!!! Yesterday I skinned my 1st. beaver. All my
previous skinning experience has been rabbit, squirrel, ground hogs and a couple of deer. The ole beaver was 53# by the bathroom
scales. The beaver had been under for a while. Needless to say the beaver being cold didn`t want to remove his fur coat. I let`em
warm in the sun a few days, I don`t think it helped much. With much knife and blue language I finally got the sob`s coat off. The
tail wasn`t too bad to skin. I pulled and pulled just wasn`t strong enough to pull it very far, more knife.
    An AMM friend Dennis Miles gave me some tips on what to keep, I kept skull, pelt, tail leather, certain bones, but neglected to
tell how tough it was to skin "thanks buddy" <G>. If I get another me and beaver will come over to visit you Dennis.
    Could anyone give an apprenticeship to a wanna be beaver skinner? I would gratefully appreciate any tips on beaver skinn`in any
ole skinner would share.
     I didn`t get the beaver myself a friend gave it to me. I haven`t learned trapping skills yet.

    Dennis, honestly, honestly, when you see the fur, honestly, I didn`t use a chain saw, just one of your knives.

    My opinion, beaver skinn`in ole mountainmen were a tough lot. Probably didn`t take no shit from no beaver, either.

John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
Longhunter
Mountainman
southwest  Ohio

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:17:55 -0600
From: Mike Rock <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #262

some women in the WI_ILL area had a 'ladies doins' over the last several
years.  Real good people!  Try to contact Lorraine Searl at
309-792-5452.  And buy some beads.  She and Mike are great dealers and
Mike and Leroy are Artists with the capital A.

Is the top lady of the Eenas called the  Hi-Eena??

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:44:21 -0800
From: Laurel huber <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur

The Ojibway tribes of the Great Lakes area also used rabbit skin blankets as a
regular item.  They has access to other hides and skins but used the rather
useless and abundant rabbit furs inside their lodges.  It's true that rabbit
will not take much abuse but its availability and cheapness made its use for
temporary wadding and warmth widespread among the Canadian/Minnesotan tribes.
Rabbit skin was also used to wad shot in smoothbores, to line cradleboards,
care for women's monthly needs and to line the moccasins of young children.
Although I have not come across any mention of adults regularly  lining their
moccasins with rabbit, I imagine it would be done if it was all that was
available on the trail.

Larry "Shoots-the-Prairie" Huber

Joe Brandl wrote:

> Some natives may have used rabbit for linings, but I find it hard to
> believe that given almost any other type of fur or hide, that rabbit would
> of been used much. Wild rabbit skin are paper thin, the fur mats easily,
> thus loses insulation quality, take a lot of rabbits for a blanket.
> Exception were the southwestern tribes that wove blankets with rabbit
> skins.
> Joe
>
> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440
> Write for custom tanning prices
> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and
> hair on robes
> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets
> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:37:20 -0800
From: Laurel huber <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions

I am back on the list after a long absence.  I'm happy to see the familiar
names of many of my brothers at the bottom of thoughtful discussions and
debates.  I mark the names of those I do not know but because of their insight
and information, I plan on making their acquaintance when our paths cross down
the trail.  Your commitment to this era and your practical experiences make
this site the valuable tool it is.
I enjoy, also, the occasional jibe or joke that occurs whenever old friends
meet to exchange views.  I am guilty of picking up the phone and reading one
right off the list to a  brother who is not technologically enhanced.  But I
think that the frequent and reoccurring one-liners that go back and forth
between the same people tends to clutter the list with "in-jokes" and
witticisms that we all can't appreciate.  I have collected the addresses of
several brothers off this list for the purpose of contacting them about
incidents and information that would be nothing but "yadda-yadda-yadda" to
others who subscribe to this list.  I do this out of respect for the work Dean
has done in building up the validity of this site as a serious tool of research
that sets it apart from the other Rendezvous chat lists out there.  I recommend
this course to those others who agree with this philosophy.
Happy to be back.

Larry "Shoots-the-Prairie" Huber
AMM # 1517

larry pendleton wrote:

> Lanney I agree.  No doubt I am more guilty than most.  If I have offended
> anyone I appologize.  I am afraid it is just my nature to B.S.  A very dear
> friend of ours has the philosophy that, 'You ain't gonna get out of this
> life alive so you might as well have some fun while your'e here."  I figure
> if we can have some fun and learn as much about history as is possible on
> this list, then we are accomplishing some thing on both points.  I will try
> to keep a lid on the B.S. as much as I can in an effort to keep from
> bothering the folks who don't believe that you can do both.
> There are postings on the list everyday that I am not interested in.  Like
> you I know what the delete button is for.
> Pendleton
>
> ----------
> > From: Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
> > Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:06 PM
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> > Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
> >
> >
> > >Thank you!
> > >I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ agree.
> > >
> > >Medicine Bear
> > >
> > >Joe Brandl wrote:
> > > This has developed into a close knit
> > >> group because of subject matter.
> >
> > What Joe said is essentially correct.  However, I think that much of the
> close knit nature of this list is based more on friendships than subject
> matter.  And friends overlook the slight imperfections in their friends.  I
> don't seem much harm if a few people use the list in the manner described.
> I am sincerely sorry if anybody's sensibilities are tweaked by this, but
> when I see posts from people who generally bore me I stroke the "delete"
> command and forget it.
> > Not trying to stir up any crap, just giving my opinion.
> > Lanney Ratcliff
> > >>
> > >> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
> > >> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440
> > >> Write for custom tanning prices
> > >> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather
> and
> > >> hair on robes
> > >> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings,
> baskets
> > >> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka
> > >
> > >
> >

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:52:07 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions

   ><<NOBODY ever said that humor wasn't allowed.>>
   >MB,
   >Unfortunately, someone DID suggest this fact to me in a private
   >post. And being one of the occasional "chatters", I thought about
   >it for awhile and decided to post my response. There are those out
   >there that do not, under ANY circumstances want anything except the
   >"technically dry, impersonal, humorless list", that I mentioned
   >before. There are a couple on every list. Fortunately, they are far
   >and few in between.  That is why I wrote what I did, and I stand by
   >it. D
Sticking to the dry clinical way of discussion and research will put most
to sleep. I agree with Dennis and I didn't think that there was any problem
with the discussions going on. If your not interrested in it skip it,use the
delete key.
Jeff Powers,A mind like a steel trap:Rusty and illegal in 37 states!

If a tin whistle is made out of tin,what is a fog horn made out of?

Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:16:39 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: mike rock

Hey Mike, Are you from the Mount Horeb-Dodgeville area?


   >some women in the WI_ILL area had a 'ladies doins' over the last
   >several years.  Real good people!  Try to contact Lorraine Searl at
   >309-792-5452.  And buy some beads.  She and Mike are great dealers
   >and Mike and Leroy are Artists with the capital A.
   >Is the top lady of the Eenas called the  Hi-Eena??

Jeff Powers,A mind like a steel trap:Rusty and illegal in 37 states!

ARE YOU READY?.......TO MEET THE KING?

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:51:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Pickert <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: skinnin beavor

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John:
 I agree that the mtn men were sure some. I am sure most all beavor
were skinned right where the were caught and not taken back to camp
whole.Try to carry a couple of whole beavor your shootin stick and all!
as for tips I have skinned quite a few and the way that I like to do
it is by putting them on a table about 3' high and I tie a rope to the
tail and hook it to a beam I have infron of the table. I have an old
school table with  a nice smooth top and the beavor can easily be
moved around on it. It still is quite a process.
I rough skin mine and then finish on a beam, although I have seen
people clean skin and that works fine too.
Hope you have many more to do>
Rick




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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:54:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Pickert <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: skinnin beavor

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John:
 I agree that the mtn men were sure some. I am sure most all beavor
were skinned right where the were caught and not taken back to camp
whole.Try to carry a couple of whole beavor your shootin stick and all!
as for tips I have skinned quite a few and the way that I like to do
it is by putting them on a table about 3' high and I tie a rope to the
tail and hook it to a beam I have infron of the table. I have an old
school table with  a nice smooth top and the beavor can easily be
moved around on it. It still is quite a process.
I rough skin mine and then finish on a beam, although I have seen
people clean skin and that works fine too.
Hope you have many more to do>
Rick




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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:22:34 -0600
From: John Dearing <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:wabbit fur

>
>
>
> >The blankets were strips of fine rabbit woven like you would make an  old blanket.
> >There are warp and weft.  Mostly popular with the Southwest Indians.  I have made 4
> >of these and they are very comfortable and warm.  Also very durable compared to just
> >sewing large pieces of rabbit fur together.

These rabbit skin robes were also popular in the Northeast...anywhere it got cold, as a
matter of fact.  I understand that skins taken in the middle of the winter won't shed
nearly
as bad as those taken in late winter, or so I'm told. I'm also told that  rabbit robes
are too
warm to use above 20 degrees F.

Any truth to this? Also, how many skins are needed to make a three point size robe, and
do you make them for sale?  <sheepish grin>       Thanks          J.D.

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:32:55 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: lube

snail mail address is attached---

"HAWK"
Michael pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor Florida  34684
E-mail:   [e-mail]

On Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:31:29 -0500 "Fred A. Miller"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> fred you didn't give any details except that you had worked for two
>years
>> on it--what is it's base and what makes it so good and easy to load
>and
>> shoot with---send more info and what do you get for a sample of
>> it---always looking for a better mouse trap---"my grizzley snot" or
>"ol
>> grizz"  is very similar to the old black solve that was sold back in
>the
>> 60's except that I use burning silica--a disbursing agent for
>systems to
>> keep  oils and other liquids from frothing when areated--it also
>uses all
>>  bio-degradable stuff so that there is no residue in the barrel---I
>add
>> some alcahol so that it wont freeze in the winter.
>>
>> what makes your lube so good and wonderful--I dont put anything in
>the
>> barrel of my gun that I dont know what it is and what it will
>do---will
>> be glad to send you a sample of mine for a sample of yours---
>
>Mike, send me your smail-mail address and we'll send off a
>sample....don't need
>your's, thanks.  A number of folks would like to know what's in it.<g>
> ALL
>ingredients were available in the 1700's, and nothing in it will harm
>a firearm.
>
>Fred
>
>--
>"Slicker 'n Willie Lube".......and that's doin some!
>http://www.cap-n-ball.com/thunder/
>
>

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:32:54 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man

you guys that provided input to the 2 hr show on the history channel did
good--only cought a couple of places that I knew wasn't correct but the
presentation and the total overall was outstanding---those of you that
helped with input slap yourselves on the back and congratulate
yourselves---lots of beautiful pictures of the mountains---makes my feet
want to wander back "to the shinning times".

their period rifles were not quite right but some were--good to see the
briger hawkins but not enough detail of it---got to hold and fondel it
back in the early 50's so made me feel like i had a good thread to the
storey line---didn't see enough of the trade guns wished they had done
more close up's of some of the stuff they were using--i know for sure
most of it was duplication one good shot of round bottom rifleing in a
gun that was quite interesting--did'nt like the picture of the guy
pouring powder down the barrel from his horn---but the total show was
very good---

guys you did good---a real good story line and transition of
thought---some good maps and talking about several of the journels of the
various mountain men---especially liked the part about the yousmity  (SP)
valley and the pictures---some good input about women and indian
brides--it would be a good additional subject for another hr
special---bet some of you girls on the chat could add a lot to the
costumes and other stuff ---

thought i should drop a note in case some of you guys get to see it when
it is reshown---

YMHOSANT
   =+=
"HAWK"
Michael pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor Florida  34684
E-mail:   [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:41:15 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: lube

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> snail mail address is attached---

[snip]

Noted.

Fred

- --
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http://www.cap-n-ball.com/thunder/

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:00:09 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man

I was not impressed with the beaver set and the ear-wax gold leathers in =
addition to the things you mentioned.  Overall, I thought the show was =
pretty good but not as good as  I would have liked, but it could have =
been way worse.  I taped it and will keep the tape. =20
my 2 cents worth
Lanney Ratcliff
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 10:34 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man


>you guys that provided input to the 2 hr show on the history channel =
did
>good--only cought a couple of places that I knew wasn't correct but the
>presentation and the total overall was outstanding---those of you that
>helped with input slap yourselves on the back and congratulate
>yourselves---lots of beautiful pictures of the mountains---makes my =
feet
>want to wander back "to the shinning times".
>
>their period rifles were not quite right but some were--good to see the
>briger hawkins but not enough detail of it---got to hold and fondel it
>back in the early 50's so made me feel like i had a good thread to the
>storey line---didn't see enough of the trade guns wished they had done
>more close up's of some of the stuff they were using--i know for sure
>most of it was duplication one good shot of round bottom rifleing in a
>gun that was quite interesting--did'nt like the picture of the guy
>pouring powder down the barrel from his horn---but the total show was
>very good---
>
>guys you did good---a real good story line and transition of
>thought---some good maps and talking about several of the journels of =
the
>various mountain men---especially liked the part about the yousmity  =
(SP)
>valley and the pictures---some good input about women and indian
>brides--it would be a good additional subject for another hr
>special---bet some of you girls on the chat could add a lot to the
>costumes and other stuff ---
>
>thought i should drop a note in case some of you guys get to see it =
when
>it is reshown---
>
>YMHOSANT
>   =3D+=3D  =20
>"HAWK"
>Michael pierce
>854 Glenfield Dr.
>Palm Harbor Florida  34684
>E-mail:   [e-mail]
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at =
http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
>

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:16:11 -0600
From: "Beau Stiles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man

Can anyone tell me if the history channel show from tonight is going to run
again. I unfortunately missed it. Thanks!

Beau Stiles
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man


I was not impressed with the beaver set and the ear-wax gold leathers in
addition to the things you mentioned.  Overall, I thought the show was
pretty good but not as good as  I would have liked, but it could have been
way worse.  I taped it and will keep the tape.
my 2 cents worth
Lanney Ratcliff
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 10:34 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man


>you guys that provided input to the 2 hr show on the history channel did
>good--only cought a couple of places that I knew wasn't correct but the
>presentation and the total overall was outstanding---those of you that
>helped with input slap yourselves on the back and congratulate
>yourselves---lots of beautiful pictures of the mountains---makes my feet
>want to wander back "to the shinning times".
>
>their period rifles were not quite right but some were--good to see the
>briger hawkins but not enough detail of it---got to hold and fondel it
>back in the early 50's so made me feel like i had a good thread to the
>storey line---didn't see enough of the trade guns wished they had done
>more close up's of some of the stuff they were using--i know for sure
>most of it was duplication one good shot of round bottom rifleing in a
>gun that was quite interesting--did'nt like the picture of the guy
>pouring powder down the barrel from his horn---but the total show was
>very good---
>
>guys you did good---a real good story line and transition of
>thought---some good maps and talking about several of the journels of the
>various mountain men---especially liked the part about the yousmity  (SP)
>valley and the pictures---some good input about women and indian
>brides--it would be a good additional subject for another hr
>special---bet some of you girls on the chat could add a lot to the
>costumes and other stuff ---
>
>thought i should drop a note in case some of you guys get to see it when
>it is reshown---
>
>YMHOSANT
>   =+=
>"HAWK"
>Michael pierce
>854 Glenfield Dr.
>Palm Harbor Florida  34684
>E-mail:   [e-mail]
>
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:20:40 -0700
From: "Ron Chamberlain" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man

>Can anyone tell me if the history channel show from tonight is going to run
>again. I unfortunately missed it. Thanks!


Sunday 3/21 2AM MT

Kudo's to you that provided input on the show!

Lonewolf
http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/index.html

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 05:46:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Pickert <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: marquis tent

 can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war
marquis tent fits into?
WITN
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 07:05:27 -0800
From: "JON P TOWNS" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent

>
> can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war
>marquis tent fits into?
>WITN
>
The Marquis tent goes way back to Mid evil days through the present They are
still using that type of tent for special sales and weddings it takes two
people or more to put it up and they are heavy and take up a lot room in the
Truck to haul.  But they are correct, for any time.  Jon T

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:59:57 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent

Jon
One of the most amazing things I ever saw was a one legged RDV trader =
named Bob Gass put up and take down a good sized marquis tent without =
assistance.  Best display of stubborness I ever heard of.
Lanney Ratcliff
- -----Original Message-----
From: JON P TOWNS <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent


>
>
>
>>
>> can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war
>>marquis tent fits into?
>>WITN
>>
>The Marquis tent goes way back to Mid evil days through the present =
They are
>still using that type of tent for special sales and weddings it takes =
two
>people or more to put it up and they are heavy and take up a lot room =
in the
>Truck to haul.  But they are correct, for any time.  Jon T
>
>

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:36:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Kinjano

In a message dated 3/18/99 11:24:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  I'd
 be interested in any women's association, but I'm not married to a
 Brother, so please tell me that's not a criteria!
.......... Barb....... i am not married either...... but living in sin with a
guy who thinks reenacting and rendezvousing is some sort of disease!!!!!
naw,,, it's not that bad, he just isn't into camping - of any kind!  his idea
of primitive is any hotel built before 1980!  and that's just fine with
me...... i wouldn't want him to go along anyway!  i am very gregarious and
have much more fun on my own......  so if we did start an official
organization it wouldn't have any criteria like being married, much less to a
certified 'skinner.


 Also, does your group have any ties to similar women's groups elsewhere
 in the country, like say, North Carolina?
..... we don't have a "group"...... it's just Karen and me throwing a weekend
of fun and "education" for ladies who like living history......


kinjano
(a.k.a. scary mary)

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:54:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Kinjano

In a message dated 3/20/99 10:34:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I use to belong to the Hyu Eenyas in the EARLY 80's.  It was a great
 fellowship of ladies who wanted to get together.  Still have all the old
 news letters and keep "somewhat" in touch with the escaped leader.
 Have been looking for  women in the southeast with the same interest and
 would like to get together and do some "lady" camping.  The summer is too
 hot, but there are other times.
 Have been looking for  a place to hold the event.  Any one interested??

 Linda Holley-Jax., Fla. >>

Linda......... i was talking with karen (my co-hort in crime) the other night
and we might startup a newsletter of sorts for women in history..... just
gotta find the time.....

Be sure to go check out   www.7e.org      we have our flyer listed there for
our women's event...... maybe you could make it!     even if you could fly up
we would find all the camp gear you need!

mary

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:04:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent

In a message dated 3/21/99 8:47:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war
 marquis tent fits into?
 WITN >>

technically the shape, size and style of a rectangular marquis type tent can
be found as far back as 3 rd century in the middle east...... it was used then
as a tent for ladies of the harem as well as for food/equipment/slave
storage....... it (the shape, size and style) is still be used today by many
armed forces around the world - only the materials, construction and color of
cloth has changed........  if you are talking about a "white canvas tent with
scalloped edging, internal poles with a ridge pole" typical of the F&I war,
Rev War and medival reenacting, you can't much farther forward than the end of
the 1800's.... they were in limited use during the war of 1812 and it tapered
off even more from there.........  for the best information on the marquis
tent contact Tentsmiths, Peter Marques, in Conway, N.H........ he has some of
the best documentation going..... don't know his phone number, but you could
get it out of Smoke & Fire News, Muzzleblasts, etc.

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:12:09 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Mines

In a message dated 3/20/99 5:10:21 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I am looking for the dates for the rendezvous in Old Mines MO.
- -------------
- ------(stuff deleted)------------ >>

Rick,

  Teh date for Old Mines is as follows:

5/14-16/99
    "La Fete a Renault"
    Old Mines, Missouri
    For more information contact:
            Rick & Mary Rill - Rt. 3, Box 73454; Potosi, Mo. 63664 - [phone]
         or: Dick Julittee - Rt. 1, Box 1108; Cadet, Mo. 63630 - [phone]

I have recently updated my webpage @:

            http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/longshot.html

you will find the dates for rendezvous in Mo. @:

            http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/rend_mo.html

and the dates for rendezvous in Ill. @:

            http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/rend_ill.html

                                                    Longshot

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