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To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #222
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hist_text-digest Wednesday, January 20 1999 Volume 01 : Number 222
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:34:23 EST
From: RR1LA@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: crooked knife
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:43:48 -0600
From: John Dearing <jdearing@mail.theriver.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: seasoning dutch oven
> >I was wondering the best way of seasoning a cast iron pot because I cook
> >with one and am wondering how to re-season it bec I lost the directions
> >on how to do that. Anyone have experience with it?
> >
Check out this URL, http://www.isd.net/stobin/Cooking/dutchov1.html
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:09:03 -0800
From: "Bz" <kinbusar@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: re Bonner and Hedges
Tony
Found a mention of the Bonner and Hedges trap in Russell's Fire Arms
Traps and Tools of the Mountain Man on page 141.
Says there is a trap in the Milwaukee Public Museum stamped Bonner and
Hughes. Think is was made in Canada. Seems to say that it was made after
1848.
Later
Buzz
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:18:01 -0800
From: "JON P TOWNS" <AMM944@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pipe smoke
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Monte: Bear berries grow from the east coast to the west it's close to the
ground and it has red berries that taste like winter green candy. Later
Jon T
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: From: Monte Holder <sja028@mail.connect.more.net>
: To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pipe smoke
: Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 2:21 PM
:
:
:
: JEAN LINDSEY wrote:
:
: > we use is Kinnikinnick or Bear berry,
: > it grows in pine/fur forests, along the ground, most good plant books
: > will have a picture and description of it.
:
: I was wondering if one could grow this stuff in Missouri? Don't take me
: wrong here, but I like growing stuff and grew some tobacco a few years
ago
: and use it as a theraputic smoke every once in a while. I know the
natives
: used a number of different plant, parts and mixtures. If you think it'd
be
: possible to set me up a garden of this stuff here in the humid midwest,
I'd
: like to talk seed exchange with somebody. Contact off list if
interested.
:
: Monte Holder
: Saline Co MO
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wrote:<br>: <br>: > we use is Kinnikinnick or Bear berry,<br>: =
> it grows in pine/fur forests, along the ground, most good plant =
books<br>: > will have a picture and description of it.<br>: <br>: I =
was wondering if one could grow this stuff in Missouri? =
Don't take me<br>: wrong here, but I like growing stuff and grew =
some tobacco a few years ago<br>: and use it as a theraputic smoke every =
once in a while. I know the natives<br>: used a number of =
different plant, parts and mixtures. If you think it'd be<br>: =
possible to set me up a garden of this stuff here in the humid midwest, =
I'd<br>: like to talk seed exchange with somebody. Contact off =
list if interested.<br>: <br>: Monte Holder<br>: Saline Co MO<br>: <br>: =
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:25:12 -0800
From: vmgilman@erols.com
Subject: MtMan-List: bayberry wax
Greetings,
Did you ever find a source for bayberry wax for candles? If so, would
you please share it with me?
Ginny
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:20:00 -0800
From: Dennis Fisher <dfisher@sbceo.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canvas lodges
John L. Allen wrote:
> During the last month or so, I've been doing some archival research that has
> led me to a bunch of old (1850-1900) photographs of the central and northern
> Great Plains and the northern Rockies. In virtually all of the photos
> showing Indian villages, the lodges appeared to me to be of something other
> than buffalo or other hide because they were so very bright. Or, alternately,
> are all my assumptions above wrong and have I really looking at hide lodges
> that were somehow bleached white by the elements?
The hide teepees are pretty easy to spot in a photograph or painting. The hides
are irregular in shape and you can see from the patterns formed from sewing them
together. The canvas ones have straight seams. There are probably other clues
to watch for but the seams are a dead give away.
Dennis Fisher
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:05:30 -0600
From: "northwoods" <northwoods@ez-net.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: re Bonner and Hedges
Buzz,
Thanks for the reply. I've seen the reference in Russells
"Firearms, Traps and tools of the Mountain Men". I've
even seen the trap he spoke of in the Milwaukee Public
Museum.
I don't think that Russell was correct in his assumption
that the trap was made in Canada or later than 1848.
I've seen traps that are stamped Standish and Hedge
on the same spring. Standish worked as the head
blacksmith for the AFC on Michilamackinac island
earlier than 1848. I've also seen traps with Standish &
Hedge & Bonner on the same spring. I would guess
that Hedge an Bonner either worked with Standish or
were traders that had obtained these traps and stamped
there own name on them. I've been hoping to find some
reference to Hedge or Bonner in early trading records.
Any other help would be greatly appreciated,
>From the northwoods'
Tony Clark
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From: Bz <kinbusar@earthlink.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 9:56 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: re Bonner and Hedges
>Tony
> Found a mention of the Bonner and Hedges trap in Russell's Fire Arms
>Traps and Tools of the Mountain Man on page 141.
> Says there is a trap in the Milwaukee Public Museum stamped Bonner and
>Hughes. Think is was made in Canada. Seems to say that it was made after
>1848.
> Later
> Buzz
>
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:14:45 -0600
From: Mike Rock <mikerock@mhtc.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #221
We should note that honey bees were not introduced to this country
before approd.1622 on the east and 1850 on the west coast. They do not
migrate rapidly without human intervention. Thus 'bee trees' all over
is rather a overstatement. I am trying to trace the historical spread
of the honey bee. I do not have a chronological contour map done yet .
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:50:47 EST
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #221
In a message dated 1/16/99 11:33:33 PM Central Standard Time,
mikerock@mhtc.net writes:
> We should note that honey bees were not introduced to this country
> before approd.1622 on the east and 1850 on the west coast.
> Thus 'bee trees' all over
> is rather a overstatement. I am trying to trace the historical spread
> of the honey bee. I do not have a chronological contour map done yet .
The autobiography of John Kinzie's wife, "Wau Bun," makes reference to bee
trees being blown down during a storm while en route to Chicago from Fort
Winnebago. This occurred during a March wind and ice storm, which caused them
to hole up at Waubonsie's camp on the Fox River just outside of Oswego,
Illinois......circa 1810.
Another reference is the writings of Thomas Bangs Thorpe, who devotes a whole
chapter to the subject in his book. Sorry, I am at work and can't be more
specific.
Dave Kanger
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:42:38 -0600
From: Jim Lindberg <jal@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pipe smoke
Are bear berries and wintergreen the same thing?
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