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hist_text-digest       Sunday, December 27 1998       Volume 01 : Number 205




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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 98 12:02:31 -00800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (DON)
Subject: MtMan-List: Leapin lizards - from DON

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 13:56:05 -0700
From: "Bob Hannon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 12:55:32 PST

Dave, Thomas Jefferson wanted all the data L & C could gather.  They
brought along several thermometers, I'm not sure of the exact number.
In fact while in St. Louis the winter of 1803-1804 a local physician
scraped the mercury off the back of his wive's mirror, in order to make
some more thermometers,to ensure an adequate supply.  It was not to be
though, much to both Lewis & Clarks dismay, the last one was broken
going over that very steep and rough terrain of the Bitterroots
Mountains at Lost Trail Pass. Hope this casts a little more light.

         Respecfully,
         Bob Hannon

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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 14:59:20 -0800
From: Roger Lahti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinsmithing?

Greg N Bosen Bosen wrote:

> i'm interested in learning to tinsmith.  Where would be a good place to
> start.  Any books at the library i should try?  what are the basic tools
> needed?  my father is a Goldsmith so i have access to his tool when
> needed.  they seem to be different though.
>
> Greg Bosen

Greg,

Try Lindsay Publications Inc., PO Box 538, Bradley IL. 60915-0538,
815/935-5353.

They specialize in books on somewhat out of date technology and have a
starter book that deals with what you want to know. I do a bit of copper
bending and it doesn't take many tools. They are simple and easy to build.
I'm glad to see that you have such a close relationship with your father but
his "tool" will not do you any good in bending tin unless he came from
Krypton. I think you meant "tools" plural. I use a simple homemade metal
"Brake" , a couple of small ball peen hammers, some molds made from pine
boards, pliers, and a small piece of 1/4" bar stock that is used to turn and
roll flanges.

Hope this is of help. If you have more specific questions let me know. I
remain.......

YMOS
Capt. lahti'

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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 04:21:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinsmithing?

Greg, The tools and techniques for smithing gold/silver/platinum are far
different than those for working with tin.  For instance, tinsmiths use a
relatively low-temperature soldering iron (either forge heated or electric)
and precious metalsmiths use an extremely high-temperature torch. The hand
tools, solders, pickles and polishing compounds are also different. You might
want or need patterns, snips, hammer & punch, simple shape-forms, a
bender/brake, and rods for rolling edges. For books and such, try
www.amazon.com, as they have an pretty incredible selection, and let you see
book reviews, publisher's notes, and have a return policy second to none.
Also, search the 'web' under  tinsmithing and you will find both historical
and modern projects for your consideration.  Hope this helps,   YHS,  Barney
P. Fife

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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 18:26:30 -0800 (PST)
From: zaslow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Burning out canoes

Don,

Although I don't know the answer (I'm more concerned with horses), I would
recommend getting a copy of L & Cs Journals.  The version that would
probably have this info would be the one edited by Elliot Coues.  It is in 3
volumes from Dover press and about $22 - $25 in paperback (ISBN
0-486-21268-8.)  I haven't read it in a long time, but remember it somewhere.

Best Regards,

Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488
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At 05:49 PM 12/23/98 EST, you wrote:
>Thanks to you all for the responses - I got on this list because of similar
>interests.
>Thanks Hardtack ( what is a Long Spanish Pause ? ), Randy, Pat, Lanney and
>Capt. Lahti.
>Question: when Lewis and Clark spent five days at canoe camp near Orofino,
>Idaho, the Indians there showed the Corps how to burn out the canoes as this
>was a faster process then hacking away at them.  I know the burning process
>involved water to cool the canoe/tree but how was
>all this done and what kind of trees were the best to use?
>Does anyone have an answer?
>Thanks
>Foot in his mouth Don
>
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:44:36 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Burning out canoes

I have been back here reading all these posts and yesterday I mentioned to
my wife "sweetie, ya know what would be neat, making a dug out canoe"  to my
suprise she agreed.  Now all I need to do is find a tree, she expects one by
the spring.  Me and my big mouth.

Happy Holidays


Frank V. Rago



At 06:26 PM 12/26/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Don,
>
>Although I don't know the answer (I'm more concerned with horses), I would
>recommend getting a copy of L & Cs Journals.  The version that would
>probably have this info would be the one edited by Elliot Coues.  It is in 3
>volumes from Dover press and about $22 - $25 in paperback (ISBN
>0-486-21268-8.)  I haven't read it in a long time, but remember it somewhere.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488
>___________________________________________________________________________
_____
>
>At 05:49 PM 12/23/98 EST, you wrote:
>>Thanks to you all for the responses - I got on this list because of similar
>>interests.
>>Thanks Hardtack ( what is a Long Spanish Pause ? ), Randy, Pat, Lanney and
>>Capt. Lahti.
>>Question: when Lewis and Clark spent five days at canoe camp near Orofino,
>>Idaho, the Indians there showed the Corps how to burn out the canoes as this
>>was a faster process then hacking away at them.  I know the burning process
>>involved water to cool the canoe/tree but how was
>>all this done and what kind of trees were the best to use?
>>Does anyone have an answer?
>>Thanks
>>Foot in his mouth Don
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:00:16 -0800
From: "Jerry H. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinsmithing?

go to the web an typ tinsmithing and injoy.    iron tongue

Roger Lahti wrote:

> Greg N Bosen Bosen wrote:
>
> > i'm interested in learning to tinsmith.  Where would be a good place to
> > start.  Any books at the library i should try?  what are the basic tools
> > needed?  my father is a Goldsmith so i have access to his tool when
> > needed.  they seem to be different though.
> >
> > Greg Bosen
>
> Greg,
>
> Try Lindsay Publications Inc., PO Box 538, Bradley IL. 60915-0538,
> 815/935-5353.
>
> They specialize in books on somewhat out of date technology and have a
> starter book that deals with what you want to know. I do a bit of copper
> bending and it doesn't take many tools. They are simple and easy to build.
> I'm glad to see that you have such a close relationship with your father but
> his "tool" will not do you any good in bending tin unless he came from
> Krypton. I think you meant "tools" plural. I use a simple homemade metal
> "Brake" , a couple of small ball peen hammers, some molds made from pine
> boards, pliers, and a small piece of 1/4" bar stock that is used to turn and
> roll flanges.
>
> Hope this is of help. If you have more specific questions let me know. I
> remain.......
>
> YMOS
> Capt. lahti'
>
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:54:39 -0800
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:52:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Burning out canoes

Thanks Jerry,
I appreciate your taking the time to write me, I have those journals and will
check into them.
Don

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