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hist_text-digest Friday, September 11 1998 Volume 01 : Number 136
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:32:36 EDT
From: Casapy123@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Nicholas Pointe
"Wilderness Kingdom" was translated and introduced by Joseph P. Donnelly, Sr.
and published by Holt, Rinehart and Winston in 1967. There was a simultaneous
printing by Loyola University Press in Chicago. You can gnerally find it
anywhere from $40 to $80 through an out-of-print bookdealer.
Jim Hardee, AMM#1676
P.O. Box 1228
Quincy, CA 95971
(530)283-4566 (H)
(530)283-3330 (W)
(530)283-5171 FAX
Casapy123@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:47:22 -0700
From: Corey Tretteen <TretCo@wwc.edu>
Subject: MtMan-List: Total newbee
I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
(real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
help me get started?
Thanks.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Newbill <lnewbill@uidaho.edu>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Total newbee
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
> I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
> (real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
> about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> help me get started?
Corey
On the weekend of Oct 3, all sorts of folks will descend on Old Fort Walla
Walla, that would be an excellent time to wander through, talk with folks,
and see whats up. Both military and trappers will be represented, from
1800 through the indian wars.
There will be both local folks and folks from distant parts, so you
should be able to rub elbows with someone that can help.
Additionally, what are you interested in... American Mountain Man,
or Northwest Company? The NWC was very active and was the actual founder
of the original Fort Nez Perce, now known as Fort Walla Walla.
Regards
Lee Newbill
Viola, Idaho
email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:09:10 -0700
From: Roger Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Total newbee
Corey:
Lee gave you some sound advice. I live in Kennewick and would be willing to
share my "wisdom" with you on how to get started and etc.whether you find a
mentor in WW or not. Most of the guys in Walla Walla are target shooters and
real nice guys in any case but if you want to get into reinacting they may not
bee that much help. That of couse depends on how authentic you are looking to
get. Feel free to e-mail me off list with your questions and when you get
ready to get on the ground and play the serious game I'll put you on to some
serious get-togethers. I remain......
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
Lee Newbill wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
> > I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
> > (real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
> > about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> > help me get started?
>
> Corey
>
> On the weekend of Oct 3, all sorts of folks will descend on Old Fort Walla
> Walla, that would be an excellent time to wander through, talk with folks,
> and see whats up. Both military and trappers will be represented, from
> 1800 through the indian wars.
>
> There will be both local folks and folks from distant parts, so you
> should be able to rub elbows with someone that can help.
>
> Additionally, what are you interested in... American Mountain Man,
> or Northwest Company? The NWC was very active and was the actual founder
> of the original Fort Nez Perce, now known as Fort Walla Walla.
>
> Regards
>
> Lee Newbill
> Viola, Idaho
> email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
> Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:25:15 -0500
From: Jim Colburn <jc60714@navix.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Sale of books, etc
Washtahay-
am selling off a number of books and misc. If anyone is interested,
please contact me directly.
Thank you
LongWalker c. du B.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:26:39 -0700
From: "Michael Naples" <M-Naples@email.msn.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Mountain Men
Greetings all Mountain Men Buffs!
I am interested in getting information a mountain man by the name of
Francisco Laforet. He was a French fur trapper from Montreal Canada who in
the 1840's came with a group of other mountain men who eventually settled in
a place called San Antonio del Rio Colorado when it was part of Mexican
Territory.
Today it is called Questa. If anyone has any information about this man or
his ancestry, I would love to here from you. Thanks.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:35:48 -0700
From: David & Evelyn Mullen <dmullen@jemez.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Francisco Laforet
Mr. Naples,
Francisco Laforet was included in -The Mountain Men and Fur Trade of the
Far West- By LeRoy Hafen, ed., (Glendale, Ca. : Arthur H. Clark Company,
1965-72). His biographical sketch is in Vol. 6, pages 213-218, & was
written by David Weber.
Regards,
David Mullen
- --
David & Evelyn Mullen
202 Mesa Verde
Jemez Springs, NM 87025
505.829.3212
email:dmullen@jemez.com
Michael Naples wrote:
>
> Greetings all Mountain Men Buffs!
> I am interested in getting information a mountain man by the name of
> Francisco Laforet. He was a French fur trapper from Montreal Canada who in
> the 1840's came with a group of other mountain men who eventually settled in
> a place called San Antonio del Rio Colorado when it was part of Mexican
> Territory.
> Today it is called Questa. If anyone has any information about this man or
> his ancestry, I would love to here from you. Thanks
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:47:27 -0600
From: agottfre@telusplanet.net (Angela Gottfred)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Menard
In 1804, Joseph Menard of Montreal was listed as a North West Company
"voyageur contremaitre" (voyageur supervisor?) in the Athabasca River
department (Masson 1:396).
There's a book by W. Raymond Wood and Thomas D. Thiessen called _Early Fur
Trade on the Northern Plains_ (University of Oklahoma Press, 1985) which has
a wealth of information on the trade to the Mandans in the late 1700's and
early 1800's. It might have some information to help answer your question.
Sorry, I haven't got my copy with me right now.
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
agottfre@telusplanet.net
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:04:28 PDT
From: "Chance Tiffie" <bossloper@hotmail.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Looking for Poor Devil Trader's
I'm trying to locat the new address or contact information for Poor
Devil Trader's, the business was once in Virginia and operated by a
woman named Deborah. Last I heard, she had relocated to Montana. She
has made clothes for me in the past, and I would like to contact her
about making some more.
Please return mail to bossloper@hotmail.com
Thanks in advance,
Chance Tiffie
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:05:52 -0700
From: Gary Bell <micropt@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Location List?
Washtahay,
I think I floated this notion before, but here goes again. Would enough of you
folks be interested in some sort of registry where those of us willing to coach
newbies or to meet traveling list-mates could list enough info about our location
that we could be contacted online when somebody has a question?
I am no expert in such things, but I can imagine a list somewhere on the 'net
where we could go to find out if one of our friends online lives near us, or near
somewhere we are travelling, or near some site of research interest. Most of us
have revealed our town at some time or another online, and I expect that a list
with just names, email addresses, location, and whether we are interested in
coaching, research help or socializing would serve our needs without unduly
intruding on list member's privacy. My notion includes the idea that members
would volunteer to be listed, so the folks not interested would not be imposed
upon.
I'll wager that most of us have online friends who live nearer than we ever
suspected. Also recall how much of our message traffic covers these newbie,
research or travelling topics already.
Feel free to reply online or privately if you like, and I would be willing to
invest time and effort in making such a thing happen if the group wants it. I
also would like to solicit ideas on how such a thing would work, you folks
probably have a bunch of good ideas about that as well. Dean, I particularly
would like to learn your views on this!
I would also like to see more correspondence with local events indicated, but I
think a separate message thread is appropriate for that, given the different set
of concerns involved. I will presently launch such a discussion here, perhaps
after the flame war of this message thread dies down a little.
Let me know (putting on my fireproof 'skins and topping off my powderhorn),
Gary Bell, aka Heron
Roger Lahti wrote:
> Corey:
>
> Lee gave you some sound advice. I live in Kennewick and would be willing to
> share my "wisdom" with you on how to get started and etc.whether you find a
> mentor in WW or not.
<snip>
> Lee Newbill wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
> > > I am a total pilgrim in this area.
<snip>
> What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> > > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> > > help me get started?
> >
> > Corey
> >
> > On the weekend of Oct 3, all sorts of folks will descend on Old Fort Walla
> > Walla, that would be an excellent time to wander through, talk with folks,
> > and see whats up.
<snip>
> > There will be both local folks and folks from distant parts, so you
> > should be able to rub elbows with someone that can help.
> >
> > Additionally, what are you interested in... American Mountain Man,
> > or Northwest Company? The NWC was very active and was the actual founder
> > of the original Fort Nez Perce, now known as Fort Walla Walla.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lee Newbill
> > Viola, Idaho
> > email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
> > Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
> > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
> On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
> > I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
> > (real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
> > about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> > help me get started?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:26:21 -0500
From: "K. Carpenter" <kcarpenter@bigbear.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Nicholas Pointe
Wayne Mumford wrote:
> Allen,
>
> How long ago was it at the Museum of the Rockies- I'm not to far away,
> maybe it's still there?
>
Where is the Museum of the Rockies?
Carp
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:50:43 EDT
From: RR1LA@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Location List?
Gary, Count me in. I'm in the West Los Angeles area, and would gladly give any
info needed. I think your idea is a great one. Feel free to contact me direct
at rr1la@aol.com. PJ
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:55:27 +0100
From: Allen Chronister <almont@mt.net>
Subject: [none]
The Museum of the Rockies is located on the campus
of Montana State University in Bozeman.
Allen Chronister
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:59:29 +0100
From: Allen Chronister <almont@mt.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Nicholas Pointe/Sacred Encounters
The exhibit catalog for the "Sacred Encounters"
exhibit, which contains a lot of the Pointe pencil
sketches, along with some other good stuff (some
very early Indian material, a hide coat attributed
to Robt. Campbell) is also available from the
museum store at the Montana Historical Society in
Helena. toll free 800-243-9900
Allen Chronister
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:00:44 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Location List?
Gary
That is a good idea. I would gladly share my meager knowledge with anyone.
My name is Lanney Ratcliff and I live in Cleburne, Texas, 76031, about 28
miles south of Ft Worth. My e-mail address is rat@htcomp.net You might
find it helpful to ask for and to include zip codes.
YMOS
Lanney
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bell <micropt@gte.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Location List?
>Washtahay,
>
>I think I floated this notion before, but here goes again. Would enough of
you
>folks be interested in some sort of registry where those of us willing to
coach
>newbies or to meet traveling list-mates could list enough info about our
location
>that we could be contacted online when somebody has a question?
>
>I am no expert in such things, but I can imagine a list somewhere on the
'net
>where we could go to find out if one of our friends online lives near us,
or near
>somewhere we are travelling, or near some site of research interest. Most
of us
>have revealed our town at some time or another online, and I expect that a
list
>with just names, email addresses, location, and whether we are interested
in
>coaching, research help or socializing would serve our needs without unduly
>intruding on list member's privacy. My notion includes the idea that
members
>would volunteer to be listed, so the folks not interested would not be
imposed
>upon.
>
>I'll wager that most of us have online friends who live nearer than we ever
>suspected. Also recall how much of our message traffic covers these
newbie,
>research or travelling topics already.
>
>Feel free to reply online or privately if you like, and I would be willing
to
>invest time and effort in making such a thing happen if the group wants it.
I
>also would like to solicit ideas on how such a thing would work, you folks
>probably have a bunch of good ideas about that as well. Dean, I
particularly
>would like to learn your views on this!
>
>I would also like to see more correspondence with local events indicated,
but I
>think a separate message thread is appropriate for that, given the
different set
>of concerns involved. I will presently launch such a discussion here,
perhaps
>after the flame war of this message thread dies down a little.
>
>Let me know (putting on my fireproof 'skins and topping off my powderhorn),
>
>Gary Bell, aka Heron
>
>
>Roger Lahti wrote:
>
>> Corey:
>>
>> Lee gave you some sound advice. I live in Kennewick and would be willing
to
>> share my "wisdom" with you on how to get started and etc.whether you find
a
>> mentor in WW or not.
>
><snip>
>
>> Lee Newbill wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
>> > > I am a total pilgrim in this area.
>
><snip>
>
>> What I need to know is is there anyone in the
>> > > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
>> > > help me get started?
>> >
>> > Corey
>> >
>> > On the weekend of Oct 3, all sorts of folks will descend on Old Fort
Walla
>> > Walla, that would be an excellent time to wander through, talk with
folks,
>> > and see whats up.
>
><snip>
>
>> > There will be both local folks and folks from distant parts, so you
>> > should be able to rub elbows with someone that can help.
>> >
>> > Additionally, what are you interested in... American Mountain Man,
>> > or Northwest Company? The NWC was very active and was the actual
founder
>> > of the original Fort Nez Perce, now known as Fort Walla Walla.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Lee Newbill
>> > Viola, Idaho
>> > email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
>> > Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
>> > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
>
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
>> > I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
>> > (real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
>> > about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
>> > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
>> > help me get started?
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:51:39 -0600
From: "WILLIAM P. GARRISON" <grizstp@micron.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Location List?
- ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDDD9C.139C77E0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a virtual Chat Site that can be utilized by the list if you like. =
I also have a Rendezvous room set up on it. The Program is called The =
Palace and can be downloaded at: www.thepalace.com My site is =
called Sportsmans Paradise and the Address for that is 206.80.121.152 =
:9998. I run this program most every day from 9am to 6 pm Mtn Time. I =
use this site to talk to customers but The Mountain Man era is one close =
to my heart and has been for a long time.
Anyway , Your all welcome to use my site for real time chat if you like. =
If you would like more info contact me at grizstp@micron.net or ICQ =
1316205. I also will be putting up a room in the near future for =
Trappers.
YHAOS
Griz Garrison
- ----------
From: Gary Bell[SMTP:micropt@gte.net]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 1998 1:05 PM
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Location List?
Washtahay,
I think I floated this notion before, but here goes again. Would enough =
of you
folks be interested in some sort of registry where those of us willing =
to coach
newbies or to meet traveling list-mates could list enough info about our =
location
that we could be contacted online when somebody has a question?
I am no expert in such things, but I can imagine a list somewhere on the =
'net
where we could go to find out if one of our friends online lives near =
us, or near
somewhere we are travelling, or near some site of research interest. =
Most of us
have revealed our town at some time or another online, and I expect that =
a list
with just names, email addresses, location, and whether we are =
interested in
coaching, research help or socializing would serve our needs without =
unduly
intruding on list member's privacy. My notion includes the idea that =
members
would volunteer to be listed, so the folks not interested would not be =
imposed
upon.
I'll wager that most of us have online friends who live nearer than we =
ever
suspected. Also recall how much of our message traffic covers these =
newbie,
research or travelling topics already.
Feel free to reply online or privately if you like, and I would be =
willing to
invest time and effort in making such a thing happen if the group wants =
it. I
also would like to solicit ideas on how such a thing would work, you =
folks
probably have a bunch of good ideas about that as well. Dean, I =
particularly
would like to learn your views on this!
I would also like to see more correspondence with local events =
indicated, but I
think a separate message thread is appropriate for that, given the =
different set
of concerns involved. I will presently launch such a discussion here, =
perhaps
after the flame war of this message thread dies down a little.
Let me know (putting on my fireproof 'skins and topping off my =
powderhorn),
Gary Bell, aka Heron
Roger Lahti wrote:
> Corey:
>
> Lee gave you some sound advice. I live in Kennewick and would be =
willing to
> share my "wisdom" with you on how to get started and etc.whether you =
find a
> mentor in WW or not.
<snip>
> Lee Newbill wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
> > > I am a total pilgrim in this area.
<snip>
> What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> > > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> > > help me get started?
> >
> > Corey
> >
> > On the weekend of Oct 3, all sorts of folks will descend on Old Fort =
Walla
> > Walla, that would be an excellent time to wander through, talk with =
folks,
> > and see whats up.
<snip>
> > There will be both local folks and folks from distant parts, so you
> > should be able to rub elbows with someone that can help.
> >
> > Additionally, what are you interested in... American Mountain Man,
> > or Northwest Company? The NWC was very active and was the actual =
founder
> > of the original Fort Nez Perce, now known as Fort Walla Walla.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lee Newbill
> > Viola, Idaho
> > email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
> > Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
> > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
> On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Corey Tretteen wrote:
> > I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
> > (real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
> > about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> > Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> > help me get started?
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:10:32 -0700
From: Gary Bell <micropt@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Location List?
Lanney,
Zip codes, that would really help! See, you guys have a bunch of great ideas to
make this work well! Thanks!!!!
I'm stashing all the messages responding on this topic, and will update the list
membership as soon as things settle out.
Keep the ideas rolling in!
Gary
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:11:24 -0700
From: tigrbo1 <tigrbo1@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Total newbee
Greetings Corey,
Welcome to the List. Unfortunately Seattle is a little far from
Walla Walla, but if we can be of any help don't hesitate to ask.
Best regards,
Terry & Judith Smith
Corey Tretteen wrote:
> I am a total pilgrim in this area. I have read a few books
> (real ones, not fiction) and talked to a few people, but that's
> about it. What I need to know is is there anyone in the
> Walla Walla, WA area that I can get together with who can
> help me get started?
>
> Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:27:41 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: pilgrim outfit
Corey
This is an open letter to newcomers that I have used for a while. I hope
some part of it helps you.
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lanney Ratcliff <rat@htcomp.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: pilgrim outfit
>I have given the same advice to numerous pilgrims. DO NOT SPEND A BUNCH OF
>MONEY TO GO TO YOUR FIRST RENDEZVOUS!! A weekend pre-1840 club
rendezvous
>will have a multitude of different styles of dress, accoutrements,
shelters,
>guns --- everything---for you to see. Call a club member (preferably an
>officer) and ask that person to put you in contact with a club member (s)
>near your home. Visit with that person and find out more particulars about
>that club. Ask him to help you outfit yourself in a "generic", lowcost set
>of clothes. Find out if a pair of boots or moccasins you might already own
>is acceptable at that club's doin's. That sort of thing. You might spend
>$12 on Book of Buckskinning Vol.1 and read it. It will give you a
>reasonably useable overview of buckskinning. However, don't make the
>mistake of treating it as holy writ...just a guide. Contact Scurlock
>Publishing Co. Inc, Dept B7, Rt 5, Box 347-M, Texarkana, Texas 75501,
>800-228-6389. Most clubs are pretty forgiving of newcomers and visitors
so
>long as they display the right spirit and show up in a reasonably
acceptable
>outfit. Some clubs have a supply of clothes to loan to a pilgrim,
although
>you might find most of the loaners to be outgrown kids' stuff. At any
rate,
>a first timer's clothes should be as non-specific as possible---something
>just about anyone would have worn in the time from about 1840 back to the
>turn of the eighteenth century...cloth trousers, cotton pullover,
>dropshoulder shirt, wide leather belt with a simple buckle and (at most
>rendezvous) round or square toe, low heel leather boots with the tops kept
>under the trouser bottoms, or moccasins. Get a natural colored canvas
>haversack to carry a spoon, a tin pie plate and a tin (or plain crockery)
>cup. Avoid blue, green, red or any other color speckled enamel ware.
>Period. People will darn near compete to feed you (if you're not a jerk
or
>something), but it is considered good manners to provide your own place
>setting, as it were. Ask your club contact his advice on a bedroll and to
>help you find someone you can camp with. A good wool blanket rolled into
an
>8X8 or 10X10 square of white canvas with a smaller canvas ground cloth is a
>good start. Find out how to set a diamond shelter with the square of
canvas
>or stretch it over a rope or wooden ridgepole to make a simple "A" frame
>tent. Most clubs allow very nearly anything in a camp so long as it is
kept
>covered--completely-- and will permit a car in camp for a short time to
>unload on Friday (or even early Saturday). So don't be shy about bringing
a
>cooler with drinks and fresh food and a sleeping pad of some sort. Bring
>food that doesn't need to be cooked or that can be cooked simply (on a
>stick) over a fire. Wander around camp and observe the various cooks in
>action, and come better equipped next time.
>Don't buy a gun before going to rendezvous for the first time. If you must
>carry somethig, carry a walking staff. It will make you look a little like
>Moses and costs essentially nothing. There will be guns there of every
>description and if you let it be known that you would like to talk about
>guns, you will find people falling all over themselves to talk about guns,
>to show you theirs and to let you shoot them. Talk with these same people
>about their clothes and why they dress the way they do. You will soon see
>the various times and places that are represented. If one particular style
>appeals to you do, find out all you can about that style...is it actually
>period and, if so, specifically when and where that style of dress was
>common. If you are certain that you have found a suitable style of dress,
>find out what gun would be appropriate to carry. Don't make this decision
>in haste. Take your time...your generic stuff will always be correct.
When
>you are resonably certain about a particular style, do the research
>necessary to get yourself a good, sturdy, not too showey outfit. Then
>concern yourself about a gun. If you decide , for instance, that the
French
>& Indian War period (1756) is where your interest lies, you don't want to
>suddenly remember that you already spent a small fortune on a top quality
>percussion mountain rifle suitable for the Rocky Mountains in the1830's.
>Then you will have to once again explain to She Who Must Be Obeyed how
>important it is for you to spend $1200 on a gun that only shoots once.
>Waugh!! (you CAN buy excellent guns for a lot less than $1200, by the way).
However, when you have decided...for sure...where your interest
>lies, then buy the best gun you purse will allow. In fact, strain it a
>little. Avoid cheap goods---always. Ask the people with the best guns
where they got theirs and if the
>same gunmaker's name keeps coming up go find that gunmaker. Even then,
don't rush to buy a gun. Look at a pile of them before buying one--find out
what a good gun is and buy the best you can afford. If someone tries really
hard to sell you a particular gun be aware that he probably is more
interested in selling you what he is trying to get rid of rather than trying
to sell you what you need.
Make yourself acquainted with longtime members and ask each of them about
their buckskinner library. Get a list of commonly recommended books (get
the title, author and ISBN number---you bookseller will thank you) and build
a quality library. Don't let anybody tell you that the complete set of Book
of Buckskinning is all you need. Get them, for sure, but don't stop there.
>Pardon my long winded reply to your query. I hope you find some good
>guidance in your pursuit of this truly wonderful hobby---that's what it is,
>you know. However,if you are lucky you find will yourself making
>buckskinning an integral part of you lifestyle, your daily conduct, even
>your home's decor. You will find that you will have greater confidence and
>pride in yourself and your abilities. Most people are too timid to do what
>you will soon be able to do without thinking twice.
>Good Luck
>Lanney Ratcliff
>rat@htcomp.com
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mill, Kirk <millk@aydin.com>
>To: ML MAILING LIST <mlml@vnet.net>
>Cc: history mailing list <hist_text@xmission.com>
>Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 1:30 PM
>Subject: MtMan-List: pilgrim outfit
>
>
>>I have been discussing this question with some people off-line and I
>decided
>>the best way to get the definitive answer would be to post it.
>>What would you folks consider to be the minimum outfit (clothing, shelter,
>>cookware, etc.) that a pilgrim like myself needs for a weekend rendezvous
>>that advertises as "pre-1840's"? Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>>
>>Kirk Mill
>>
>
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