<DIV>Magpie Have few drinks and start writing.</DIV>
<DIV>Weren't asleep just listen better with my eyes closed.</DIV>
<DIV>Could not have been too asleep finding them tire track on the pavement=20=
to get us home not once but twice. Your true tales should be written down no=
joke. Charley Norton's wife was serious.</DIV>
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:12:33 GMT
From: trampas4@juno.com
Subject: Re: Fw: MtMan-List: MIller Paintings
A Follow up on tents in Millers works...
Lanney,
If you have the book "The West of Alfred Jacob Miller" look on page 197. The painting is called "Catching Up" In the left is Provost's tent. It looks so much different than any others in his drawings, pyramid? In the book "Artist on the Oregon Trail" plate # 29 in is called "Attrapez des Chevaux" the tent has the same look. Also in that book plate #37, "Our Camp" look behind the cart.
I have been trying to find the histiry of the pyramid tent, so far not much luck. The web site for Tentsmiths mentions the Britsh wanted to use such a type some years early, but thats all I found so far. Like some feed back, I am sure this will stir the kettle!
Bill Gantic, Baker Party
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:23:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan Boyer <larpenteaur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Firearm for Bear/Mountain Lion Protection
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Thanks to all on the list that have contributed to the firearm suggestion,
both fur trade era and modern, for use as protection from bear and mountainlion protection. I appreciate the collective wisdom. If we constrainourselves to the period correct blackpowder suggestions, it seems like thereis some consensus that the trade gun would be the appropriate choice loadedwith "buck and ball". Some have suggested (Crazy Cyot) a 12 gauge trade gunin percussion.
A few more questions if you can tolerate the novice? If not I will
understand:
Are trade guns by definition smoothbore? And if so does that mean that
you can shoot both round ball or buck shot (shotgun shot) in these? Arethey flintlock only?
When we say "buck and ball" does that mean that you are actually loading
both round ball and buckshot at the same time?
For the bear/lion protection use that I have as a premise for this
discussion, was the trade gun recommended over a large bore rifle because a"buck and ball" load will has a wider spread or effective range(I know thisis not the right term, but hopefully you get the point)?
Finally, any suggestions on who offers trade guns that fit this bill. I
had one suggestion for a custom trade gun (is that the same as a fusil?)maker Danny Caywood? Any other good trade guns manufacturer?
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:32:57 -0500
From: MunevarL@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Firearm for Bear/Mountain Lion Protection
Nate,
I'll take a read of that one. Thanks for the reference.
Lou
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:34:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Teter <leeteter@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: grizzly book
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Modern books are great for learning about the animal, but Fred Gowans' book Mountain Man & Grizzly is the best one for people who like this site. Mr. Gowans compiled almost every recorded instance of grizzly encounters known, from Lewis & Clark to late era mountaineers. Good stuff. Just thought I'd mention it since this subject has generated so much interest.
Lee
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<DIV>Modern books are great for learning about the animal, but Fred Gowans' book <EM>Mountain Man & Grizzly</EM> is the best one for people who like this site. Mr. Gowans compiled almost every recorded instance of grizzly encounters known, from Lewis & Clark to late era mountaineers. Good stuff. Just thought I'd mention it since this subject has generated so much interest.</DIV>
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:35:57 -0700
From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net>
