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hist_text-digest Sunday, August 24 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1227
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-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: FW: RE: AMM-List: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:53:04 -0500
-áááááá MtMan-List: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:24:19 -0500
-áááááá MtMan-List: cold camp menu
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
-áááááá MtMan-List: instant coffee
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:52:37 -0400
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: FW: RE: AMM-List: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:53:04 -0500
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Come to Ohia, ya overgrowed daisy.....
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I would be interested but I wear a grown man's size. Sorry.
LR
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I have a pair of their French Canadian boots for sale, size 10. =
Great quality, durable (my extra pair) they will re sole for a pittance, =
IF you can wear the soles out.
D
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In a message dated 8/21, Dave writes:=20
A friend of mine mentioned Arrowhead moccasins... and then I =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a pair of their French =
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 8/21, Dave writes: =
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TYPE=3D"CITE">A friend of mine mentioned Arrowhead moccasins... =
and then I=20
noticed an <BR>ad in the Muzzleloader... Any information on =
their=20
products as well? <BR><BR>Dave <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:24:32 -0600
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:24:19 -0500
test, no response needed
Lanney Ratcliff
lanneyratcliff@charter.net
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Aux Aliments du Pays
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:30:20 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Brothers, Once again many parts of the country are dry, burning, or
threatening to burn. Cold camps are the order of the day if one wants to
get out on the ground. My question to you all is this: What are your
favorite recipes, meals, etc... when forced to do without fire? Some of us
are preparing for a trip which will probably require 'cold' camping. Some
of the fellows have been asking how to prepare. I usually keep my grub
pretty simple anyway , as I look at cooking and cleaning as a pain in a**,
so sausage, cheese, dried fruits, grains, jerky and hardtack, etc... are
some of my staples. I figure some of you guys have some good ideas though,
so I'm asking.....
Yfab, Randy
Randal Bublitz
rjbublitz@earthlink.net
"Life is short, paddle hard..."
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:37:12 -0600
From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Randy,
Looks like you got it covered. My short answer would be cheese, raisins
and hardtac; with more thought I'd add dried fruits and veggies. Dried
tomatoes are dynamite for taste, drying concentrates the flavor. Dried
squash lets you eat it at your pace rather than the plant's. I
originally dried tomatoes and squash for soups, but they never make it
that far as they are so good by
themselves. I dry my own veggies and fruit so it turns out way better
than the store-bought stuff. I don't add chemicals and I dry it until
it is very very dry...in the case of tomatoes, even crispy. If you
don't dry it that much, they recommend you "keep it in the fridge and
check for mold occasionally! I have some dried apricots/peaches that
have lasted years in a drawer with no sign of mold, and they are still
good, except even dryer (crunchy, even). Dried and/or smoked fish are
good, if you have them.
Good luck, and I'm interested in reading what others add.
Sparks
Randal Bublitz wrote:
>Brothers, Once again many parts of the country are dry, burning, or
>threatening to burn. Cold camps are the order of the day if one wants to
>get out on the ground. My question to you all is this: What are your
>favorite recipes, meals, etc... when forced to do without fire? Some of us
>are preparing for a trip which will probably require 'cold' camping. Some
>of the fellows have been asking how to prepare. I usually keep my grub
>pretty simple anyway , as I look at cooking and cleaning as a pain in a**,
>so sausage, cheese, dried fruits, grains, jerky and hardtack, etc... are
>some of my staples. I figure some of you guys have some good ideas though,
>so I'm asking.....
>Yfab, Randy
>
>
>Randal Bublitz
>rjbublitz@earthlink.net
>"Life is short, paddle hard..."
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:07:05 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Dried apples are a good source of "sugar" energy, as are the apricots,
pineapple, etc...
Haven't yet figured out how to do coffee or tea (short of a thermos) in a
cold camp... I like coffee, but I haven't stooped to eating the instanty
stuff straight yet... *grins*
Regards,
Ad
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:27:19 -0400
From: "Bruce Nail" <mnail@up.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Hey Randy:
First, this is my first post, so greetings to the list from Northern Mi.
And, since I do troop and stomp around up here in the "great whitye north"
I've suffered through some really "cold camps"; consequequently, My partners
have been forced to eat many meals "Sans feu". some of the fare consists of
the following:
Pemmican (watch the cholesterol!)
Wild rice (soak one hand full in your cup over night and you'll have a
relatively tasty breakfast (a little maple or raw sugar helps out the
taste.)
Parched corn, which can be eaten by the the hands full, or ground for a
quasi-meal and mixed into mush
I can't say anough about the sausage and hardtack, a little of that goes
a long way.
One last thing, If you're not in for a long haul trek, how about a portable
brazier? Goosebay workshop makes an accurate little brazier that might
satisifty the "no open flame" rule in sme places, execpt in California where
even charcoal seems to be outlawed.
hope this helps, regards.
Bruce
"One thumb"
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
To: "hist_text" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
> Brothers, Once again many parts of the country are dry, burning, or
> threatening to burn. Cold camps are the order of the day if one wants to
> get out on the ground. My question to you all is this: What are your
> favorite recipes, meals, etc... when forced to do without fire? Some of us
> are preparing for a trip which will probably require 'cold' camping. Some
> of the fellows have been asking how to prepare. I usually keep my grub
> pretty simple anyway , as I look at cooking and cleaning as a pain in a**,
> so sausage, cheese, dried fruits, grains, jerky and hardtack, etc... are
> some of my staples. I figure some of you guys have some good ideas though,
> so I'm asking.....
> Yfab, Randy
>
>
> Randal Bublitz
> rjbublitz@earthlink.net
> "Life is short, paddle hard..."
>
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:29:54 -0600
From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: instant coffee
Ad,
I tried that once, with modifications.
I had an instant chocolate milk packet...the kind you just add hot water
for a swell in-from-the-cold beverage.
I didn't have a cup, but I had a spoon.
I tore open the top of the choc.milk package, dumped in some of that
g.i. instant (powdered) coffee and mixed it up inside the foil packet
that contained the chocolat mix.
The package was then pretty crowded, so I could only add a little water
from my canteen, which turned it into a powdery syrup. Ate it with a
spoon. Been hooked on chocolate coffee ever since. I do know that the
instant chocolate and foil package probably are not period correct. But
if you want, you can come up with various mixtures for a good beverage
at home in your spare time.
sparks
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:59:12 -0700
From: JW Stephens <lray@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
One thing that works great for me as long as it's just cold,
not cold and dry, is to take some dried fruit and nuts and
(the grain of your choice goes here) and soak 'em in cup or
pot overnight. The dried fruit gets re-constituted; the
nuts, if they are raw, will try to sprout; and the grain
"slow cooks." Heat it up with your magnifying glass, and
presto. Save your sweetener for something that needs it.
This method doesn't work so good for "cooking" pasta. Trust
me on this one.
B'st'rd
Randal Bublitz wrote:
> Brothers, Once again many parts of the country are dry, burning, or
> threatening to burn. Cold camps are the order of the day if one wants to
> get out on the ground. My question to you all is this: What are your
> favorite recipes, meals, etc... when forced to do without fire? Some of us
> are preparing for a trip which will probably require 'cold' camping. Some
> of the fellows have been asking how to prepare. I usually keep my grub
> pretty simple anyway , as I look at cooking and cleaning as a pain in a**,
> so sausage, cheese, dried fruits, grains, jerky and hardtack, etc... are
> some of my staples. I figure some of you guys have some good ideas though,
> so I'm asking.....
> Yfab, Randy
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:32:48 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Heat it up with your magnifying glass, and
> presto. Save your sweetener for something that needs it.
Now I never thought of that!! Just proves the "Necessity IS the mother of
invention"!!
Will file that away and try it...
Regards,
Ad
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:46:54 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Hi Bruce, Thanks for the reply. Usually when there is a fire ban, the
only type of stove, etc... allowed is one with a shut off valve.
Therefore, charcoal, etc... is also banned. Oh yeah...welcome to the
list, nice to meet you. Randy
> From: Bruce Nail <mnail@up.net>
> One last thing, If you're not in for a long haul trek, how about a
portable
> brazier? Goosebay workshop makes an accurate little brazier that might
> satisifty the "no open flame" rule in sme places, execpt in California
where
> even charcoal seems to be outlawed.
>
> hope this helps, regards.
>
> Bruce
> "One thumb"
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:00:59 -0700
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cold camp menu
Bruce,
It's not the "open flame" that is the problem with fire bans and the no fire
rule. It's the ash and coals. The fire agencies don't want any fire that
leaves an ash that might contain a live coal and such will remain live in
ashes for more than a day or so. Leading cause of garage fires. Fire place
ashes in paper grocery bags taken into the garage for later disposal. Almost
guaranteed a garage fire by morning!
We can use gas fired stoves and I suppose candles but no, no charchoal and
no wood fires. But being a primitive group we don't care to use the gas
stoves if possible.
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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