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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:08:41 EDT
From: MarkLoader@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Bull elk ivory
Hello the Camp
I need some pairs of bull elk ivory for Indian articles anyone have any they
would part with. Need to be bull not cow and complete with root.
Thanks Mark Roadkill Loader
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:38:52 -0600
From: Dennis Knapp <dennis@clearsprings.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Canoe trip on the Missouri, August
In August the boys ( ages 12 & 15) and I are going to canoe Holter Lake on the Missouri from the dam to the Upper Holter Lake boat launch. We will pass through the Gates of the Mountain. We plan on 3 days on the river. It is only 20 plus miles,
but we are pilgrams regarding canoes and plan to do lots of stopping and playing and fishing along the way. If anyone is interested in joining us, you are more than welcome to do so. Put in date Friday, 08/22 am., take out Monday, 08/25 pm.
Contact me at ... sticher@ktft38.com or 208-543-8859 evenings. Any ideas or suggestions from someone who has made this trip would be appreciated too.
Regards,
Dennis Knapp aka Sticher
Southern Idaho
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:25:51 -0500
From: John Dearing <jdearing@brick.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canoe trip on the Missouri, August
>I would suggest that you read a book and view a video or two on canoeing,
>before making your trip. I don't know what kinds of water conditions you
>will encounter on your trip, but the video,
Guide to canoeing from L.L. Bean ; A Friendship II production, is probably
the best instructional video on the market. A local library might have it.
Also the book, "Path of the paddle" / Bill Mason is probably the best
instructional book available, also probably available through a local library.
If you are novice canoeist this book and video will give you a place to
start learning canoeing skills that will make this, and other canoe trips
much more enjoyable, and allot safer.
Have fun on your trip.
J.D.
>but we are pilgrams regarding canoes and plan to do lots of stopping and
>playing and fishing along the way. If anyone is interested in joining us,
>you are more than welcome to do so. Put in date Friday, 08/22 am., take
>out Monday, 08/25 pm.
>Contact me at ... sticher@ktft38.com or 208-543-8859 evenings. Any ideas
>or suggestions from someone who has made this trip would be appreciated too.
>Regards,
>Dennis Knapp aka Sticher
>Southern Idaho
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Sega <chrissega1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain Man's horse
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Just a little Clarification. I was looking at what you wrote and got a little perplexed. Didn't ashley state that the round leaved variety (angulata or deltoides) was sweet and the narrow leaf (angustifolia) was bitter?
Casapy123@aol.com wrote:
........ Ashley also differentiates between the sweet and bitter variety of cottonwood. He describes the bitter bark as the round-leafed tree and the sweet bark as the narrow leafed tree. This is a contrast between the populus angustifolia (bitter) and the populus angulata (sweet) cottonwoods. Ashley claims that the sweet cottonwood is no where to be found in the mountains and most of his references occur while on the prairie.
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<DIV>Just a little Clarification. I was looking at what you wrote and got a little perplexed. Didn't ashley state that the round leaved variety (angulata or deltoides) was sweet and the narrow leaf (angustifolia) was bitter? <BR><B><I>Casapy123@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">........ Ashley also differentiates between the sweet and bitter variety of cottonwood. He describes the bitter bark as the round-leafed tree and the sweet bark as the narrow leafed tree. This is a contrast between the populus angustifolia (bitter) and the populus angulata (sweet) cottonwoods. Ashley claims that the sweet cottonwood is no where to be found in the mountains and most of his references occur while on the prairie.<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><p><hr SIZE=1>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:11:39 EDT
From: Casapy123@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain Man's horse
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Here are the pertinent quotes from the Ashley narrative:
"We were able to procure but a scanty supply of fuel till we arrived on the
10th march at a small branch of the north fork of the Platte, where we found an
abundance of wood. This stream is about one hundred feet wide, meandering
northeastwardly through a beautiful and fertile valley, about ten miles in width.
Its margin is partially wooded with large cottonwood of the bitter kind. The
sweet cottonwood, such as affords food for horses, is nowhere to be found in
the mountains;"
"When the round leaf or sweet-bark cottonwood can be had abundantly, horses
may be wintered with but little inconvenience. They are very fond of this bark,
and, judging by the effect produced from feeding it to my horses last winter,
I suppose it almost, if not quite, as nutricious as timothy hay."
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