Sir: I would like information about obtaining a booth space to sell flintlock rifles at Ft. Bridger next year. Please contact me at my own e-mail address: d49_mbranson@yahoo.com
Allen Hall wrote:Hello,
I thought maybe someone in the Fort Bridger area would be interested in this.
Allen
The very existance of the rendezvous as we know it will be discussed at the
public meeting. It will be held at the Lyman Town Hall 10:00 a.m. on the
28th of september. 100 E Sage. It is very important for every one to be
there. Please come and express what you liked or didn't like about the 2002
rendezvous.
Thanks Kash
(2002 Rendezvous Booshway)
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My two cents experience with commerical or braintan is to stretch it. I have a buddy who has used commerical braintan and he stretched it and smoked it as well. If you dont mind what are you planning on making?<BR>
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:14:34 -0700
From: "Prince, John" <JBPRINCE@paccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: leather question
>
> Scott,
> My two cents experience with commerical or braintan is to stretch it. I
> have a buddy who has used commerical braintan and he stretched it and smoked
> it as well. If you dont mind what are you planning on making?
>
> Frank Sablan
> Midland,Texas
>
Hello the camp;
As someone who is totally new to buckskinning what is the purpose
of stretching and what is a good way to smoke the leather?
[Reading the posts on this list I sure can tell I live in the
wrong part of the country!]
John Prince
Yorba Linda, Ca.
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:59:48 +0000
From: "scott mcmahon" <mountedranger@hotmail.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Trade goods in the Nations
I never heard back from anyone regarding trade goods in the Nations...
nobody has any suggestions, tips, comments? I'm assuming it's pretty much
the same as anywhere else there was Indian trade but just wanted to see if
there were any ledgers out there with a definitive answer.
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:51:06 EDT
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: leather question
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In my humble opinion both commercial and braintan leather will stretch if
sewn directly into a garment. Example, I made a pair of commerical elkskin
pants and didnt stretch the leather, well after wearing them a while, sitting
and bending, I looked as if I was carrying a load in my backside and my knees
were stretched as if carrying grapefruits. I had to readjust them and sew
again. I just recently finished a pair of braintan dropfront breeches and
stretched and stretched the hides and the finished product is still
stretching abit esp. the waist band, should have but a canvas band inside the
waistband to prevent stretching but I live and learn. again this is just my
two cents worth, it has worked for me. On smoking the hides sew the hide
into a tube and attach a small canvas tube (this will be over the smoke
source) use real punky wood and smoke away. Hope all this helps
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In my humble opinion both commercial and braintan leather will stretch if sewn directly into a garment. Example, I made a pair of commerical elkskin pants and didnt stretch the leather, well after wearing them a while, sitting and bending, I looked as if I was carrying a load in my backside and my knees were stretched as if carrying grapefruits. I had to readjust them and sew again. I just recently finished a pair of braintan dropfront breeches and stretched and stretched the hides and the finished product is still stretching abit esp. the waist band, should have but a canvas band inside the waistband to prevent stretching but I live and learn. again this is just my two cents worth, it has worked for me. On smoking the hides sew the hide into a tube and attach a small canvas tube (this will be over the smoke source) use real punky wood and smoke away. Hope all this helps</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:53:21 -0500
From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@centurytel.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: L&C film
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There is a review in today's paper about the Imax production of the =
Lewis & Clark expedition. Not a "must see" film according to the review.
The reviewer said the film is "gorgeous" and "maybe a little to =
gorgeous". The entire two year trek is squeezed into 42 minutes on the =
big screen.
The reviewer also said, "the audience doesn't get a true sense of =
the hardships.......".
And for a conclusion, the film gives another version of the =
pronunciation for Sacagawea. I won't try it here, or at all. Isn't this =
pronunciation #85?
Oh, well, it's Imax. I would enjoy seeing a full-length production =
film on the L&C trek. Not holding my breath though.
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:08:14 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: L&C film
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Sorry to say Mike Powell and I work on this movie and I would not walk across
the street to see it my self. We put together the Shoshoni and Nezperce
villages for it. With there lack of wanting to portray the Villages as they
were described by Lewis and Clark. Their lack and willingness to even give a
clear picture of the history of these people and what the Shoshoni were going
threw at the time when they helped the expedition. To say the least I was
very let down to think this movie was produced by National Geographic (I
excepted better from them.) So I am not surprised that the rest of the movie
was of no historic value too.
Better luck next time
Crazy Cyot
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Sorry to say Mike Powell and I work on this movie and I would not walk across the street to see it my self. We put together the Shoshoni and Nezperce villages for it. With there lack of wanting to portray the Villages as they were described by Lewis and Clark. Their lack and willingness to even give a clear picture of the history of these people and what the Shoshoni were going threw at the time when they helped the expedition. To say the least I was very let down to think this movie was produced by National Geographic (I excepted better from them.) So I am not surprised that the rest of the movie was of no historic value too.
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:01:09 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: leather question
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Leather stretches it's just the nature of the stuff, it's made of skin and
skin stretches if it didn't when ya get fatter it would not fit ya any more.
As for puree stretching it may help some but it's still going to stretch were
it gets stress. Putting canvas in the waste bad is the best way to keep your
breeches up and fitting you. It does not take long for leather to stretch,
you could not ware them out fast enough to keep this from happening. As for
them stretching to where ya, I looked as if ya was carrying a load in your
backside and your knees were stretched as if carrying grapefruits.
That's the way pantaloons and breeches looked they were made baggy in the
seat that was the stile of them and if they are made of leather they will
stretch in the knees no stopping it. As for lining the pants leather is warm
enough to ware without doing this, I wouldn't. Make them and live in them and
they will look like you have.
See ya down the trail
Crazy Cyot
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2> Leather stretches it's just the nature of the stuff, it's made of skin and skin stretches if it didn't when ya get fatter it would not fit ya any more. As for puree stretching it may help some but it's still going to stretch were it gets stress. Putting canvas in the waste bad is the best way to keep your breeches up and fitting you. It does not take long for leather to stretch, you could not ware them out fast enough to keep this from happening. As for them stretching to where ya, I looked as if ya was carrying a load in your backside and your knees were stretched as if carrying grapefruits.
<BR>That's the way pantaloons and breeches looked they were made baggy in the seat that was the stile of them and if they are made of leather they will stretch in the knees no stopping it. As for lining the pants leather is warm enough to ware without doing this, I wouldn't. Make them and live in them and they will look like you have.
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:11:48 EDT
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: leather question
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IMO if you line the seat and/or legs of braintanned britches you will lose
some if not all of the 'breatheablilty' of the material; one of it's
outstanding properties. Barney
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