urgent need for a large number of gourds suitable for making canteens.
Does anyone know of a source?</font></b> <b><font size=-1>regards,</font></b> <b><font size=-1>Paul</font></b></blockquote>
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From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: My Education (OFF TOPIC)
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In a message dated 6/24/2002 2:27:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Rifleman1776@centurytel.net writes: <<How did that guy even get on the list?>>
These supposed 'Nigerian' yahoos have figured out how to penetrate and mine
email lists, chat forums, use groups, etc. everywhere and believe it or not,
there are fools that actually fall for the BS. I know it's almost
incomprehensible, but....
Just FYI, Washington recently issued a warning that they have picked up the
same thing now from 'Afghani's' citing our involvement there as the cause of
their troubles and the reason we should help them out LMAO!
Flim-Flam Artists exist everywhere; the internet is no exception. Like
trolls, the best thing to do is ignore them, so lets put this thread to rest.
Barney
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>In a message dated 6/24/2002 2:27:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Rifleman1776@centurytel.net writes:</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B> <<</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">How did that guy even get on the list?>></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>These supposed 'Nigerian' yahoos have figured out how to penetrate and mine email lists, chat forums, use groups, etc. everywhere and believe it or not, there are fools that actually fall for the BS. I know it's almost incomprehensible, but....<BR>
<BR>
Just FYI, Washington recently issued a warning that they have picked up the same thing now from 'Afghani's' citing our involvement there as the cause of their troubles and the reason we should help them out LMAO! <BR>
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From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Gourds
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In a message dated 6/24/2002 3:00:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> if you cannot find what you want here.....Oh, well.
Isn't that the truth! GREAT site Linda, thanks. Barn
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<P><FONT size=5><STRONG>"HEY YOU" - "YES YOU"</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><BR><FONT size=4>Here's are some questions to ponder as to being prepared, whether hunting, shooting a match or defending yourself in a different area.</FONT></P><FONT size=4></FONT>
<P><BR><FONT size=4>What kind of a gun would you use if "<STRONG>lucky"</STRONG> enough to get the winning ticket for <STRONG>"The Great Buffalo Raffle", </STRONG>will you allow an extra day for testing your gun before shooting on live game, learning about thw wind, hunting conditions or the lay of the land ?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>What about a second gun, I like killing my own game not having a backup shooter doing it for me. Will you carry a second gun for this reason if a second shot is needed !</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>I do, and can say after a dozen animals I have used that second gun maybe 5 times. In fact on one outing ("Quill" can tell you) I needed to grab an additional gun his - Ken "Quill" Smith's, to finish a bad acting cow that had been hit 4 times before the killing shot behind the ear, so believe me these are hard animals to get on the ground at times.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>In zero weather there's nothing like a charging wounded 1200 lb. animal to get your attention, brother I have had cold sweat drop off my shoulder blades and hit me in the crack of the butt after the last killing shot. That's your system working double time in life threating experiences, wait to have one, you'll love it. </FONT></P>
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I usually don't reply much on this web site but I felt a response was necessary to this question about killing buffs.
I have personally killed 4 3year old bulls with muzzle-loaders and I have witnessed at least 3 more other people kill their bulls here in Colorado in the last 25 years.
1. A buffalo brain is small and sits in the top of the head. If you shoot him between the eyes you are just going to piss him off. Draw a line between the center of the left eye socket to the center of the right horn, do that again at the r. eye to the left horn. X marks the spot where you aim if you want a dead instant like kill. I shot my last one with a .45 caliber original ky long rifle which belonged to my G.G.G. daddy. 70 grains of 3 f w/ round ball, That bull went down like he was pole-axed. Now the 1st bull I ever shot back in the 1970s. Wellllll,,,,,,,, that is another story. Suffice to say that I don't reccommend a between the eyes shot. Behind the ear is fine. You can probably do that with a light gun. I have seen that shot made on a 4 year old bull with nothing but a .35 remington. he dropped dead instantly. I also have seen one shot with a .45/70 shilo sharps at 30 yds right through the lungs. That animal died pretty quick but not as quick as a good brain shot. I have the skull of my last with one small .45 hole about an inch from the X where the brain is. M. Branson
"Daniel L. Concho Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com> wrote: Just received this from Buck Conner about hunting buffalo.
Watch the skyline when leaving and do come back.
Concho [HRD]
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"ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU.
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See the AMM site for more supporters of this event.
sorry the computer sent the message before I had finished, re- read it brothers.
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Here's are some questions to ponder as to being prepared, whether hunting, shooting a match or defending yourself in a different area.
What kind of a gun would you use if "lucky" enough to get the winning ticket for "The Great Buffalo Raffle", will you allow an extra day for testing your gun before shooting on live game, learning about thw wind, hunting conditions or the lay of the land ?
What about a second gun, I like killing my own game not having a backup shooter doing it for me. Will you carry a second gun for this reason if a second shot is needed !
I do, and can say after a dozen animals I have used that second gun maybe 5 times. In fact on one outing ("Quill" can tell you) I needed to grab an additional gun his - Ken "Quill" Smith's, to finish a bad acting cow that had been hit 4 times before the killing shot behind the ear, so believe me these are hard animals to get on the ground at times.
In zero weather there's nothing like a charging wounded 1200 lb. animal to get your attention, brother I have had cold sweat drop off my shoulder blades and hit me in the crack of the butt after the last killing shot. That's your system working double time in life threating experiences, wait to have one, you'll love it.
Those of you that did a little time over seas know the feeling when you did something stupid like walk up on the bad guy by accident, and where lucky enough to get off the first shot. Big time sweat. <GGG>.
HEY GET YOUR GIRL FRIEND OR WIFE A RAFFLE TICKET FOR THAT SPECIAL DAY - YOU COULD ME HER BACKUP SHOOTER <GGG>.
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<P> I usually don't reply much on this web site but I felt a response was necessary to this question about killing buffs.
<P>I have personally killed 4 3year old bulls with muzzle-loaders and I have witnessed at least 3 more other people kill their bulls here in Colorado in the last 25 years.
<P>1. A buffalo brain is small and sits in the top of the head. If you shoot him between the eyes you are just going to piss him off. Draw a line between the center of the left eye socket to the center of the right horn, do that again at the r. eye to the left horn. X marks the spot where you aim if you want a dead instant like kill. I shot my last one with a .45 caliber original ky long rifle which belonged to my G.G.G. daddy. 70 grains of 3 f w/ round ball, That bull went down like he was pole-axed. Now the 1st bull I ever shot back in the 1970s. Wellllll,,,,,,,, that is another story. Suffice to say that I don't reccommend a between the eyes shot. Behind the ear is fine. You can probably do that with a light gun. I have seen that shot made on a 4 year old bull with nothing but a .35 remington. he dropped dead instantly. I also have seen one shot with a .45/70 shilo sharps at 30 yds right through the lungs. That animal died pretty quick but not as quick as a good brain shot. I have the skull of my last with one small .45 hole about an inch from the X where the brain is. M. Branson
<P> <B><I>"Daniel L. Concho Smith" <hrd7@lycos.com></I></B> wrote:
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<P><FONT size=4><EM>sorry the computer sent the message before I had finished, re- read it brothers.</EM></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5><STRONG>"HEY YOU" - "YES YOU"</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><BR><FONT size=4>Here's are some questions to ponder as to being prepared, whether hunting, shooting a match or defending yourself in a different area.</FONT></P><FONT size=4></FONT>
<P><BR><FONT size=4>What kind of a gun would you use if "<STRONG>lucky"</STRONG> enough to get the winning ticket for <STRONG>"The Great Buffalo Raffle", </STRONG>will you allow an extra day for testing your gun before shooting on live game, learning about thw wind, hunting conditions or the lay of the land ?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>What about a second gun, I like killing my own game not having a backup shooter doing it for me. Will you carry a second gun for this reason if a second shot is needed !</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>I do, and can say after a dozen animals I have used that second gun maybe 5 times. In fact on one outing ("Quill" can tell you) I needed to grab an additional gun his - Ken "Quill" Smith's, to finish a bad acting cow that had been hit 4 times before the killing shot behind the ear, so believe me these are hard animals to get on the ground at times.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>In zero weather there's nothing like a charging wounded 1200 lb. animal to get your attention, brother I have had cold sweat drop off my shoulder blades and hit me in the crack of the butt after the last killing shot. That's your system working double time in life threating experiences, wait to have one, you'll love it. </FONT></P>
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<LI><FONT size=4>Those of you that did a little time over seas know the feeling when you did something stupid like walk up on the bad guy by accident, and where lucky enough to get off the first shot. Big time sweat. <GGG>.</FONT></LI></UL>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif" size=4><FONT size=5><STRONG>HEY GET YOUR GIRL FRIEND OR WIFE A RAFFLE TICKET FOR THAT SPECIAL DAY - YOU COULD ME HER BACKUP SHOOTER <GGG>.</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif"><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif" size=4><STRONG><FONT size=5>AMM "Buffalo Raffle": </FONT></STRONG><A href="http://amm_raffle.tripod.com/amm.html"><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif">http://amm_raffle.tripod.com/amm.html</FONT></A></P>
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