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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #101 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, July 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 101 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 08:02:24 -0500 From: "yellow rose/pendleton" <yrrw@cyberramp.net> Subject: MtMan-List: smooth rifles How common were the so called smooth rifles? { guns that were built like rifles but were smooth bored} I think they were fairly common in the east but I am not sure if they went to the mountains. Pendleton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:07:07 -0500 From: "Larry R. Weisz" <abtbirds@owc.net> Subject: MtMan-List: elkhorn wis rondavoo Does anyone have the dates for the Elkhorn Wi. rondavoo. Lost the e-mail with the phone # to call. Thanks in advance your humble servant Littlehawk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:38:10 EDT From: <Grantd9@aol.com> Subject: MtMan-List: A couple of questions about trail foods I was reading an article last night in the Book of Buckskinning VI about trail foods. Although it didn't really tell me anything that I didn't already know, it did bring to mind some questions. It spoke of drying squash such as pumpkin and this may be the dumb question of the year, but do you cook the squash before drying it? The other dumb question is about drying fish, do you cook it before drying? If anyone has advice on drying fish, I would be very interested to hear it as that is one trail food that is readily available either at the store or the lake. Many thanks for any replies. Grant ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:50:32 -0500 From: BOB JOHANNES <johannes@dubuque.net> Subject: MtMan-List: STRAIGHT RAZORS NEED TO FIND A BOOK WITH THE LATEST VALUES OF OLD STRAIGHT RAZORS LISTED BY MANUFACTURER. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION, PLEASE ADVISE ME AS WHERE IT CAN BE PURCHASED AND ITS COST. THANK YOU. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:56:36 -0700 From: "JON P TOWNS" <AMM944@prodigy.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oilcloth This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01BDAD9C.E28AE9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Panther primitive has a good fly made of oil cloth Ray Glazner has one Diamond made of one. He is on the road trading now will be back by the end of August. Later Jon T - ---------- : From: ThisOldFox@aol.com : To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com : Subject: MtMan-List: OilCloth : Date: Friday, July 03, 1998 8:07 AM : : A while back we discussed diamond shelters and someone posted how to make : oilcloth using linseed oil. I have a different question along the same lines. : : Back in March of this year I obtained enough commercially producted oilcloth : to make a 10X10 diamond. I just got it back from the tentmaker last nite. I : have two questions: : : !. Does anyone know what type of oil is used to make commercial oilcloth? : : 2. How does one cure it for use? : : This stuff just dripped oil when still on the bolt. After 4 months, it is : still pretty slick and the stuff gets on your hands and everything it touches. : : OldFox : (expecting a wealth of knowledge from John Kramer, who seems to know : everything) - ------=_NextPart_000_01BDAD9C.E28AE9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">Panther primitive has a good fly made = of oil cloth Ray Glazner has one Diamond made of one. He is on the = road trading now will be back by the end of August. Later Jon = T ---------- : From: ThisOldFox@aol.com : = To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com : Subject: MtMan-List: OilCloth : Date: Friday, = July 03, 1998 8:07 AM : : A while back we discussed diamond = shelters and someone posted how to make : oilcloth using linseed oil. = I have a different question along the same lines. : : Back = in March of this year I obtained enough commercially producted = oilcloth : to make a 10X10 diamond. I just got it back from the = tentmaker last nite. I : have two questions: : : !. = Does anyone know what type of oil is used to make commercial = oilcloth? : : 2. How does one cure it for use? : : = This stuff just dripped oil when still on the bolt. After 4 = months, it is : still pretty slick and the stuff gets on your hands = and everything it touches. : : OldFox : (expecting a wealth of = knowledge from John Kramer, who seems to know : everything) </body></html> - ------=_NextPart_000_01BDAD9C.E28AE9E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:47:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kenneth David Sherlock" <sherloc3@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Smoke Signals Were smoke signals really used in the 1800's? If so, how effective were they and what did they communincate with them? What other forms of communication were available at the time? Sherlock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:35:24 -0500 From: Jim Lindberg <jal@cray.com> Subject: MtMan-List: 1895 Map site This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------63DE69561372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Might be a little late in the time period, but thought some of you might find this site interesting. Jim - --------------63DE69561372 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from ledzep.cray.com (ledzep [137.38.226.97]) by badger.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) with ESMTP id OAA23569 for <jal@badger.cray.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:52:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.cray.com (mail.cray.com [128.162.1.10]) by ledzep.cray.com (8.8.8/craymail-smart) with SMTP id OAA1303052 for <jal@cray.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:52:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smultron.com (smultron.com [192.41.19.90]) by mail.cray.com id TGFPYaD for <jal@cray.com> env-from <swedes-owner@smultron.com> [MX: ok]; Sat Jul 11 14:52:20 1998 Received: (smultron@localhost) by smultron.com (8.8.5) id OAA28750; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:44:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from discoverynet.com (discoverynet.com [206.99.171.1]) by smultron.com (8.8.5) id OAA28707; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from discoverynet.com (pm7-38.discoverynet.com [208.155.165.146]) by discoverynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26655 for <swedes@smultron.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:44:09 -0500 Message-ID: <35A7BE0B.98E4B2C2@discoverynet.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:33:31 -0500 From: "J. Nelson" <nelson@discoverynet.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "swedes@smultron.com" <swedes@smultron.com> Subject: SE: A new (to me) map resource Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: swedes@smultron.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. Nelson" <nelson@discoverynet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smultron.com id OAB28750 http://smultron.com/bookstore http://smultron.com/donation Hi, Swedes! I just found a new map resource at: http://www.LivGenMI.com/1895.htm It is a compilation of maps of all the states in the U. S. in 1895, including detailed maps of all their counties. I found American communities to which my Swedish ancestors travelled which are no longer in existence today. You might want to check it out if you are compiling a history of your ancestors' settlement here in the U. S. Ah-h-h-h, but if I could only find such a site for historic maps of Sweden! Any suggestions? H=E4lsningar, J. Nelson Courtesy of smultron (mailto:david@smultron.com) FAQs http://smultron.com= /faqs Sub and unsub http://smultron.com/sub-swed.htm - --------------63DE69561372-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:55:59 -0500 From: Jim Lindberg <jal@cray.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: elkhorn wis rondavoo Elkhorn Rendezvous, July 24-26, (414) 723-8724. Although I'll be at the Forts Folle Avoine Rendezvous near Webster! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:12:07 -0500 From: Jim Lindberg <jal@cray.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A couple of questions about trail foods I saw a great demonstration of drying racks at the White Oak Rendezvous (in northern Minnesota coming up at the begining of August). Anyway, what they did was mash up berries, he used raspberries, and coat the fish with that (the fish were cleaned and cut open on one side. The berry paste was then spread on the meat, this would form a coating that would help keep the flys off. The meat was then put on the rack, it was stressed that there should be sun and shade, night and day, using nature part. He did squash too, cut it up in chunks and I think he put the berry paste on it. Also they spead the berry paste on Basswood leafs and let it dry, then roll them up (the original fruit roll-ups). Hope this helps, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:41:40 -0500 From: Jim Lindberg <jal@cray.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Blue Hills Rendezvous review I had a great time at the Blue Hills Rendezvous hosted by the Flambeau Rivere Voyageurs. Such a great bunch I had to join them! A real nice small vous. Weather was hot and on the humid side on the banks of the Thornapple River, but there was usually enough of a breeze to make it tolerable and the bugs weren't bad at all. Although I didn't participate in any of the activities, there were a number of shoots, hawk and knife thorws, kids games and womens games. Some great music, from campers on Friday night who jammed on autoharps, guitars, fiddles, dulcimers. Saturday night there was a paddle dance with a band of campers, including a banjo and garbage can bass. Dancers wanted the band to play all night long. Had a great camp pot-luck diner Saturday night, talk about some good food. I was family-less and my goal was to kick back and relax and I did that. I was going to enter the canoe race Sunday, but a friend showed up and we were wandering around camp. They drew teams, three numbers per team, front, rear and cargo. Cargo could only sit in the canoe, paddlers started by standing in the river and jumping in the canoe when the canon fired. They had to go upstream, around an island and back downsteam. Spectators and racers alike enjoyed that one. Can't wait till next year. Got a brief rest (actually going to Cub Scout camp on Wednesday) before the Great Forts Folle Avoine Rendezvous July 24-26. This is at the site of two actual fur trade posts (Northwest and XY). Hopefully I'll have my other diamond fly for the kids done for that. So if you're there, look for the two diamond fly tents and stop by. Jim - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /`-_ Jim Lindberg |Les Voyageurs du Val du Chippewa { . }/ 724 East Grand Avenue | \ / Chippewa Falls, WI 54729 USA |Sweete water and light laughter, |___| http://reality.sgi.com/jal/ |Until we next meete. Go Gentle. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:04:03 -0700 From: Vicki Dinsmore <ezra@midrivers.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: smooth rifles I think this might he suitable for the site considering all the interest in period shelters. If it is not suitable, I apologise. In my search through real estate books looking for land in W.Montana and Idaho, I discovered an ad for a business for sale called Rendedvous Supplies. The ad reads as follows. Tent manufacturing business. Includes equipment, supplier lists. custimer lists, show dates and locations. training. $14,000.00 I thought perhaps if there was a company out there that specialized in pre-1850 shelters, already treated with the proper materials perhaps there would be a demand for them. Again, sorry if I am out of line. Dean, ever thought of an ad page as a side venture? Perhaps even charge a bit? Missed it again this year, boohoo. Longtrail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:56:05 -0500 From: Jeff Powers <kestrel@ticon.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: elkhorn wis rondavoo On 1998-07-12 hist_text@lists.xmission.com said to kestrel@ticon.net >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sender: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Status: >Does anyone have the dates for the Elkhorn Wi. rondavoo. Lost the >e-mail with the >phone # to call. >Thanks in advance your humble servant >Littlehawk july 24-26 call 414-723-8724 Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:47:50 -0500 From: Jim Colburn <jc60714@navix.net> Subject: MtMan-List: War of the Rebellion Washtahay- sorry for the slight venture out of period topics here, but there may be some interest in this. ran across about 12 volumes of "War of the Rebellion Records of the Union and Confederate Armies" Series I, copyright date on those I checked was 1882. If anyone is interested, drop me a note and I will put you together with the seller. LongWalker c. du B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:16:46 EDT From: <JSeminerio@aol.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A couple of questions about trail foods Grant Go to any real Italian Market and look for Bacala (salted cod) readily available in New York City anyway and totally period. If you want I'll ask around my family for some recipes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:36:58 -0500 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A couple of questions about trail foods I've made fruit leather from mashed fruits and berries and jerky out of various forms of meat. I've made pemmican out of the two. I've not tried doing= them together but, it ought to work. I think it would sweeten the flavor more= than keep flies off. I've used a heavy coat of pepper over a fresh kill carcass= to help keep flies away. I think it helps -- hard to tell with flies. John... At 08:12 AM 7/13/98 -0500, you wrote: >I saw a great demonstration of drying racks at the White Oak Rendezvous >(in northern Minnesota coming up at the begining of August).=A0 Anyway, >what they did was mash up berries, he used raspberries, and coat the >fish with that (the fish were cleaned and cut open on one side.=A0 The >berry paste was then spread on the meat, this would form a coating that >would help keep the flys off.=A0 The meat was then put on the rack, it was >stressed that there should be sun and shade, night and day, using nature >part.=A0=20 > >He did squash too, cut it up in chunks and I think he put the berry >paste on it. > >Also they spead the berry paste on Basswood leafs and let it dry, then >roll them up (the original fruit roll-ups). > >Hope this helps, > >Jim >=20 Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:36:33, -0500 From: ZUHC75A@prodigy.com (MR ALLAN H SMITH) Subject: MtMan-List: purchasing/making wooden barrels Do you have information for sources on purchasing or making wooden barrels? ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #101 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.