"...thanks everyone for your input, i will read again the post and decide what i want to use..."
Frank,
Just remember, no matter what you opt for, some will applaud your choice and compliment you on your research and dedication to being "period", and some will criticize you for sloppy research, tell you that you are wrong, and walk away muttering to themselves that nobody (but them) really cares about being "period". Just so I don't sound too cynical, I will mention that there are also some that will say "Hi Frank...nice shirt!"
(Have you considered using aluminium conchos..."if they'd 'a had them...." <VBG>)
Black Knife
Alan Avery
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If you are going to the Nationals in Elk Park, Utah this year, here is =
something to consider.
There will be a joint treck/ride in. COHT & AMM are invited to =
participate. If you are interested, contact Joe DeLaRonde for details. =
He has a site that will be the gathering point and then get into the main =
camp site on Tuesday or so. Call Joe at 505-757-6725 or e-mail him for =
further details. Don
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:38:58 -0800
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: FW: RE: MtMan-List: WAS: water containers NOW Prepping gourds
> C.Kent- Hi... When I made gourd canteens I cut a small hole then
dropped in a few 7/16" nuts (stones work). I then held the canteen with my
hand over the hole and shake and swirl. I empty it out periodicaly during
this process. With a light you can see inside some. You know it's clean
when the 'stuff' stops coming
> out. I then cut a wood plug (closet dowel) and drill a cork sized hole
in it. I then fit the plug to the gourd. I then heat the gourd in the
oven (125 degrees) and then pour in a mix of molten bee's wax and parafin,
and swirl for good coverage.
> I quit using gourds after a friend almost lost his colon due to bad
bacteria living in his wax. I now use a stainless steel kidney canteen,
and just bought a copper one. I also have some military surplus ones.
> The AMM is primarily a survival group, rather than a reenactment
group. The Mtn. Men were the premier survivalists. Surviving is more
important than absolute authenticity. Use a water purifier and a good
(clean) canteen. My opinion, hardtack
>
> >
> > how do you all ensure that the inside is cleaned out well. How do
y'all clean them?
> >
> > -C.Kent
> --- Randal Bublitz
> --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net
> we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers,
> we are Borrowing it from our Ch
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- --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net
we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers,
we are Borrowing it
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:02:31 EST
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: gourd canteen
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I have used and abused my round gourd canteen and so far (knock on wood) it
hasnt broken, I have even used it on a modern trail ride with 8 kids and one
of those kids banged it around so much I thought it was a gonner but to no
avail , it still holds water . I also have a copper canteen I use as a
standby, both are of great service
thanks to all on thier responses to canteens and compasses,
i often use the sun, but what happens on a cloudy day in unknown area? just
something to think about
frank
texas
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I have used and abused my round gourd canteen and so far (knock on wood) it hasnt broken, I have even used it on a modern trail ride with 8 kids and one of those kids banged it around so much I thought it was a gonner but to no avail , it still holds water . I also have a copper canteen I use as a standby, both are of great service <BR>
<BR>
thanks to all on thier responses to canteens and compasses, <BR>
<BR>
i often use the sun, but what happens on a cloudy day in unknown area? just something to think about<BR>
<BR>
frank<BR>
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:57:32 EST
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Jedediah Smith's Trade goods and other info
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in the manifesto fo jed smith's trade goods i came across the following(which
was cut and pasted here):
3 dozen bone buttons
4 gross marble buttons
2 gross glass buttons
1 gross shell buttons
1 gross coat buttons
2 gross waistcoat buttons
interesting note on the 2 gross waistcoat buttons(interesting at least to
me), I will probably go with bone buttons on a light weight hemp/cotton
blend shirt.
as for the compass, i am still researching, I think i remember the use of a
compass in the early RMFT era 18??, and I also recall a iron banded or even a
tin canteen in some invoices, I will continue to look and keep you posted if
any are interesed.
Frank
ps I like to portray a RMFT trapper who winters in the warm southwest but
continues to venture into the rockies, if I had to pick a mountaineer I try
to emmulate that would be Mariano Medina, we are both considered half-breeds.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">in the manifesto fo jed smith's trade goods i came across the following(which was cut and pasted here):<BR>
3 dozen bone buttons <BR>
4 gross marble buttons <BR>
2 gross glass buttons <BR>
1 gross shell buttons <BR>
1 gross coat buttons <BR>
2 gross waistcoat buttons <BR>
<BR>
interesting note on the 2 gross waistcoat buttons(interesting at least to me), I will probably go with bone buttons on a light weight hemp/cotton blend shirt.<BR>
<BR>
as for the compass, i am still researching, I think i remember the use of a compass in the early RMFT era 18??, and I also recall a iron banded or even a tin canteen in some invoices, I will continue to look and keep you posted if any are interesed.<BR>
<BR>
Frank<BR>
ps I like to portray a RMFT trapper who winters in the warm southwest but continues to venture into the rockies, if I had to pick a mountaineer I try to emmulate that would be Mariano Medina, we are both considered half-breeds.<BR>
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:42:14 -0700
From: Todd Glover <tetontodd@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: WAS: water containers NOW Prepping gourds
Scrape em out as much as possible with a dowel or stick, then toss in a
handful of wood screws or drywall screws and begin sloshing them around
inside until they knock off all the loose matter, then pour them out and
do it again. For those who have had trouble with their beeswax coatings
try brewers pitch, it works much better. However i agree with Tom and
Crazy, hang up the gourd and get a good copper canteen.
Todd
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:51:58 -0500 hikingonthru@cs.com writes:
> "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net> wrote:
>
> >> I carry a gourd canteen lined with beeswax.
>
>
> This is for those who know how to manufacture gourd canteens. Once
> the gourds are dried and ready for cleaning, how do you all ensure
> that the inside is cleaned out well. This is easy if you are just
> making a bowl or a gourd-half canteen (try to find 2 that are near
> approximate circumference - what a task). BUT what about those
> carrying bottle gourds or some other type with just the cork hole in
