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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:15:59 -1000
From: Blue Rider <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-06-11 18:48:22 EDT, you write:
>
> << [e-mail] (Angela Gottfred) >>
> iron tounge hear do you know the name of the beutiful tune i heard the
> other
> day played on a fiddle the man told me butt i forgot. it was used on
> pbc
> special about the civil war. it was so pritty. its going to bug me
> tell i can
> find the name. im a new blue grass nut and dont know my way around the
> groups.
> ive started colecting tunes. also the one that custer played the day
> my
> ansesters rubed him out.
>
>                                                    iron tounge



    Hey, IT, how you doing?

    Don't know the fiddle tune, but Custer's song was "Gary Owen".  I think
the 7th Cav. still plays it.

    Aloha
    Blue Rider

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:40:47 -0700
From: "Dennis Mountjoy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooter bags

TO: Red Hawk:

      Hyperlink to EBay was incorrect.  Sorry.  Try deleting www.  Use
http://cayman.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category353/index.html.   I didn't
test it
before I sent it. Sorry.

Bloody Hand.


>I am looking for pictures of authentic shooters bags so that I can
reproduce
>them.  Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
>Red Hawk
>

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:45:27 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Addison O. Miller)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

The tune of the 7th Cavalry was an old drinking song called Gary Owen.
Quite a catchy little tune...

Addison Miller

>In a message dated 98-06-11 18:48:22 EDT, you write:
>
><< [e-mail] (Angela Gottfred) >>
>iron tounge hear do you know the name of the beutiful tune i heard the other
>day played on a fiddle the man told me butt i forgot. it was used on pbc
>special about the civil war. it was so pritty. its going to bug me tell i can
>find the name. im a new blue grass nut and dont know my way around the groups.
>ive started colecting tunes. also the one that custer played the day my
>ansesters rubed him out.
>
>                                                   iron tounge
>
>

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:11:56 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Henry B. Crawford)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Revolvers,  a period quote

>This quote takes place at Georgia Gulch in the Colorado gold fields in
>circa 1861, it involves miners argueing over North/South feelings at the
>beginning of the Civil War.
>        (well, it involves mountains and men anyway ;^)

snip . . .

Thanks.  As a professional historian, I always prefer documented evidence
and original primary source material.  I am glad that occasionally someone
provides that.

Cheers,
HBC

*****************************************
Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
[e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
806/742-2442           Box 43191
FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
               WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:32:56 -0500
From: "S.M.Despain-1" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooter bags

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I am looking for pictures of authentic shooters bags so that I can reproduce
> them.  Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
> Red Hawk

Dear Red Hawk:

I suggest the many University special collections in the nation.  Yale
has an extensive photo archives as does the University of Oklahoma.
Most large state or private institution have these types of special
collections.  Also, I would contact the Museum of the Fur Trade in
Chadron, Nebraska and the Museum of the Mountain Man in Pinedale, Wyo.,
and see if they have photos of their display material.

If you have any questions contact me,

Matt Despain

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:53:05 -0500
From: "Scott Allen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Trippin' Again

Hello the list(s)

I will be in Seattle/Tacoma next Monday and Tuesday and Anchorage
the 13-16 July with a follow-on to Fairbanks the 16-24 July. If
anyone is in these areas and would like to get together for supper
and/or an ale, let me know.


Your most humble servant,
Scott Allen
http://members.tripod.com/~SCOTT

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

Greetings All

Have a question on lead and cast iron kettles.

I purchased an old iron kettle from an auction some time ago with the
intent of using it with my persona.  The kettle had obviously been used to
cook with for some time, so I wasn't concerned with any problems.

Then, the night before I left for our local Rendezvous, I noticed some
hard to get out lumps under the grease.  Chipping on them revealed a
silvery metal underneath, and heating the pot on a burner confirmed my
suspicions when the lumps turned into molten lead... at some
point someone had used this pot to melt lead in.

Question.  Can this pot be salvaged (i.e. all lead traces removed) for a
cooking utensil by subjecting it to high (cherry red) heat?

Regards

Lee Newbill
Viola, Idaho
email at [e-mail]
Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:53:51 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Henry B. Crawford)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

snip . . .
>Question.  Can this pot be salvaged (i.e. all lead traces removed) for a
>cooking utensil by subjecting it to high (cherry red) heat?
>
>Regards
>
>Lee Newbill

I have done that, but I admit you're running a long term risk.  I once
melted lead in an iron pot, then realized my folly.  I dumped out the
hardened lead mass, then I removed all visible traces of lead (there wasn't
much there to begin with) with a rotary steel brush attached to my drill, I
scrubbed and rinsed and dried the pot till I saw no more lead.  I am sure
that if there is any lead at all left in my pot (and I am sure there
isn't), it doesn't compare to the amount I breathe in during rush hour.

The best advice is to get yoursef a new pot for cooking and use the old one
for melting lead, tallow, or some other non edible substance.

HBC

*****************************************
Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
[e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
806/742-2442           Box 43191
FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
               WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:56:13 -0500
From: "Ken" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: off line

Howdy the list,
I will be off line for a while due to health problems.
YellowFeather

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:16:14 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Henry B. Crawford)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off line

>Howdy the list,
>I will be off line for a while due to health problems.
>YellowFeather

Good luck, whatever it is.  Give us a holler when you're back.

HBC

*****************************************
Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
[e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
806/742-2442           Box 43191
FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
               WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:00:04 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off line

Get well soon and come on back!!!~~~~~~~~~> :)

Red Hawk

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:41:54 -0500
From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not  N

the name of that tun is "garry owen" or "the irish washwoman" both names are
for the same tune.


On 1998-06-23 [e-mail] said to [e-mail]
   >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
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   >Status:
   >In a message dated 98-06-11 18:48:22 EDT, you write:
   ><< [e-mail] (Angela Gottfred) >>
   >iron tounge hear do you know the name of the beutiful tune i heard
   >the other day played on a fiddle the man told me butt i forgot. it
   >was used on pbc special about the civil war. it was so pritty. its
   >going to bug me tell i can find the name. im a new blue grass nut
   >and dont know my way around the groups. ive started colecting tunes.
   >also the one that custer played the day my ansesters rubed him out.
   >iron tounge

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:21:01 -0700
From: Roger Lahti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Patch Lube / BP Cleaner

Iron Tounge'

Are you thinking of "Gary Owen"? That is the marching song of the Seventh Cavalry
and we love it too.

YMOS
Capt. Lahti

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 98-06-15 08:07:25 EDT, you write:
>
> << e-mail [e-mail] >>
> did you get my you no mes  ive ben bitten by the blue grass bug. went to a
> praty the other day the fiddle player told me the name and as allways i forgot
> got a memeory as long as a cat house dream.
>                                                          iron tounge

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:53:13 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Wedding Pix are up and running!

Well folks,

   It took me a while, but I have the Cyber Skinners / "#fur_traders Redezvous
pictures up and running.  Please pass the address on to whoever you think
should have it that i missed with this post.
   The address is as follows:

                        http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/sticks.html


                                             Longshot

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:51:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

Hello The List... Again!

Right after I sent the original message, I got a chance to talk to the
lead abatement team here at the University of Idaho.  Always up for
adventure, they were delighted to experiment.  We're going to heat the pot
to cherry, run the standing lead out, let it cool, then heat it up again
and test for lead vapor.  It's always amazing how one can overlook the
resources of his own back yard, eh?

Regards

Lee Newbill
Viola, Idaho
email at [e-mail]
Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:56:32 -0700
From: Frank <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off line

I'll be prayin' fer ya Yellow Feather!

Medicine Bear

Ken wrote:

> Howdy the list,
> I will be off line for a while due to health problems.
> YellowFeather

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:52:05 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

In a message dated 98-06-24 11:33:21 EDT, you write:

<< The tune of the 7th Cavalry was an old drinking song called Gary Owen. >>

I think it's Garryowen the 7th Cavalry's marching song and the same as the
Montana town just south of the Little Bighorn Battlefield.

Ghosting Wolf

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:45:41 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Roy Parker)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Teepee Poles

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:51:02 -0600, you wrote:

>I need a little help for a friend.  He is looking for a set of teepee
>poles.  Does anyone know of a trader in the northern Utah, southern
>Idaho area that sells peeled lodge poles?  I have met a trader named
>"Dr. Shakey" who is out of Willard, Utah, but I don't know how to =
contact him.
>Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Kirk L. Davis
>Salt Lake City, UT     [e-mail]

Check out Don Strintz.  Web site is   http://www2.strinz.com/tipi/ =20

We got a set right before the SW in March.  To be honest, we ended up
getting 2 used poles (complete with streamers!) and one with a rotten
base from them.  However, we've talked, they evidently had a 'new guy'
who filled our order, and have agreed to give us the money back or
bring replacement poles next year.  We're holding out for the
replacements.  No hassle, seem like real nice folks who want to do
right by their customers.

Roy


Roy Parker, Booshway, 1998 SW Regional Rendezvous, [e-mail]
=46ull SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus
Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including "BS".

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:33:59 -0500
From: "Michael Branson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

Garry Owen is correct. The song was originally used as a marching song in
Europe by the British Military. It is irish. Custer used to go into battle
with his band playing it. When he hit the Cheyenne camp at Washita in the
winter of 1868 the band was playing that song.

MBranson
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not
re: NMLRA)


>In a message dated 98-06-24 11:33:21 EDT, you write:
>
><< The tune of the 7th Cavalry was an old drinking song called Gary Owen.
>>
>
>I think it's Garryowen the 7th Cavalry's marching song and the same as the
>Montana town just south of the Little Bighorn Battlefield.
>
>Ghosting Wolf
>
>

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:18:24 -0700
From: Chris Sega <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

If you look up the point at which lead will boil and heat your pot to that temp
for at least an hour, you would theoretically drive off the lead, but you may
not remove the lead oxides.  You also do not know how often lead was melted in
the pot, and hence how contaminated it is.   Get a new one, just to be safe.
CPS

Henry B. Crawford wrote:

> snip . . .
> >Question.  Can this pot be salvaged (i.e. all lead traces removed) for a
> >cooking utensil by subjecting it to high (cherry red) heat?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Lee Newbill
>
> I have done that, but I admit you're running a long term risk.  I once
> melted lead in an iron pot, then realized my folly.  I dumped out the
> hardened lead mass, then I removed all visible traces of lead (there wasn't
> much there to begin with) with a rotary steel brush attached to my drill, I
> scrubbed and rinsed and dried the pot till I saw no more lead.  I am sure
> that if there is any lead at all left in my pot (and I am sure there
> isn't), it doesn't compare to the amount I breathe in during rush hour.
>
> The best advice is to get yoursef a new pot for cooking and use the old one
> for melting lead, tallow, or some other non edible substance.
>
> HBC
>
> *****************************************
> Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
> [e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
> 806/742-2442           Box 43191
> FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
>                WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
> ******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:04:17 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooter bags

authentic as to what ?, Where ?, When ? , let me know I'll help you out

watch your topknot

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:14:16 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Upcoming Show & Tell

I hope that I am not breaching list protocol, I am not a member of the AMM.
Iwould like to inform any list readers a great little show & tell in Monroe NY
at Museum Village, June 26, 27 & 28.  It's a recreated 19th Century town, and
a great little site.  If you're in the area please come by and pass a good
time

Thank you for the use of the list
Watch your topknot
John

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:36:05 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

ashoken farewell

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:36:50 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Name of tune for iron tongue

teh name of the tune is "ashoken Farewell"

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:24:48 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

In a message dated 98-06-24 01:48:46 EDT, you write:

<<     [e-mail] (Gary Bell) >>
gary the day custer was rubbed out they played gary owen and other tunes in
the band custer had with him alwats on his marches so im told . his campaines
wre extravagant rituals with full marching band so im told. as he was a bit of
an egocintric basturd.      iron tounge

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:35:23 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

In a message dated 98-06-24 04:15:39 EDT, you write:

<< [e-mail] (Blue Rider) >>
thanks blue rider iron tounge

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:36:35 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

In a message dated 98-06-24 11:33:21 EDT, you write:

<<     [e-mail] (Addison O. Miller) >>
thanks addison    iron tounge

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:58:16 -0700
From: Gary Bell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

Hears The Quiet,

I wonder if you might be looking at a lump of tin instead of lead?  Tin would be
quite safe, and was commonly used to mend pots.  Where do you think the terms
'tinker' for itinerant mender of pots, or 'tinker's dam' for the wad of clay used
to plug a hole in an iron pot so tin could be pooled inside it, mending the pot --
came from?  You could test chemically for lead, or if you can measure and control
the temperature precisely, you might bring the whole business to the melting point
of tin (449 degrees F) but below the melting point of lead (621 degrees F).  A
glance at the two temperatures kinda tells why tin would be a good choice for
mending or lining cookware.  I have fancy professional copper saute pans lined with
tin -- they work great.

Keep us posted on how this works out

Heron


Chris Sega wrote:

> If you look up the point at which lead will boil and heat your pot to that temp
> for at least an hour

Good idea in theory, but iron melts at 2787 degrees F, and lead boils at 3171
degrees F.  I fear the pot would melt long before any lead boiled.

> , you would theoretically drive off the lead,

Lead fumes are very toxic, if you heat this pot be certain you have an adequate
fume hood or equivalent.  Don't just count on being outside and the breeze taking
the fumes away from you.  My environmental bump is itching thinking about where
those fumes would end up.

> but you may
> not remove the lead oxides.

If the lump is lead, there are already oxides, and there is no indicated boiling
point for them, they melt around 550 degrees, depending on composition.  Further
heating might drive off some of the oxygen from the oxides.

I expect that wherever the lead or tin or whatever was in contact with the iron it
actually chemically migrated into the iron a little bit, making a layer of alloy
that would have to be ground out.

> You also do not know how often lead was melted in
> the pot, and hence how contaminated it is.  Get a new one, just to be safe.
> CPS

I think the last is the best advice, unless you can test for lead chemically and
find none, you are talking about a sustantial lead poisining risk.

>
>
> Henry B. Crawford wrote:
>
> > snip . . .
> > >Question.  Can this pot be salvaged (i.e. all lead traces removed) for a
> > >cooking utensil by subjecting it to high (cherry red) heat?
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Lee Newbill
> >
> > I have done that, but I admit you're running a long term risk.  I once
> > melted lead in an iron pot, then realized my folly.  I dumped out the
> > hardened lead mass, then I removed all visible traces of lead (there wasn't
> > much there to begin with) with a rotary steel brush attached to my drill, I
> > scrubbed and rinsed and dried the pot till I saw no more lead.  I am sure
> > that if there is any lead at all left in my pot (and I am sure there
> > isn't), it doesn't compare to the amount I breathe in during rush hour.
> >
> > The best advice is to get yoursef a new pot for cooking and use the old one
> > for melting lead, tallow, or some other non edible substance.
> >
> > HBC
> >
> > *****************************************
> > Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
> > [e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
> > 806/742-2442           Box 43191
> > FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
> >                WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
> > ******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:40:57 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

In a message dated 98-06-24 14:57:26 EDT, you write:

<<  [e-mail] >>
i wouldnt use it for any thing but for melting lead its not worthit   iron
tounge

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:45:34 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Patch Lube / BP Cleaner

In a message dated 98-06-24 19:25:14 EDT, you write:

<<     [e-mail] (Roger Lahti) >>
thanks capt did  custer take a marching band with him on his campaingns. or
was some one pullin my leg.

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:52:04 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

In a message dated 98-06-24 22:55:11 EDT, you write:

<< [e-mail] >>
ben all over that country an cant rember that town - absorkie -red lodge-
colestrip-miles city-dont recall gary owen though. iron tounge

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 01:55:35 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Name of tune for iron tongue

In a message dated 98-06-25 00:39:17 EDT, you write:

<< [e-mail] >>
thanks iron tounge

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:00:10 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off line

In a message dated 98-06-24 16:09:40 EDT, you write:

<<     [e-mail] (Ken) >>
if you get to the end of your rope tie a knot in it and hang on.  love iron
tounge

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:41:48 -0700
From: Gary Bell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not re: NMLRA)

Iron Tounge

Yeah, now that all the other folks on the list described it, I recall having heard
the Garry Owen story before.   Ya know, of all the things I've lost since I got
old, I miss my mind the most -- I think I do anyway!

Yes, Custer had a king sized ego.  He was pretty eccentric and quite ruthless.  He
did some pretty impressive stuff in the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression, for
my southern friends), but his enthusiastic pursuit of the plains tribes earns him
little respect today.

Heron

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 98-06-24 01:48:46 EDT, you write:
>
> <<      [e-mail] (Gary Bell) >>
> gary the day custer was rubbed out they played gary owen and other tunes in
> the band custer had with him alwats on his marches so im told . his campaines
> wre extravagant rituals with full marching band so im told. as he was a bit of
> an egocintric basturd.      iron tounge

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 04:15:25 -0500
From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lead and Iron Pots

NO NO NO throw that pan out or use it to melt your own lead!!!!






On 1998-06-24 [e-mail] said to [e-mail]
   >X-Sender: [e-mail]
   >Greetings All
   >Have a question on lead and cast iron kettles.
   >I purchased an old iron kettle from an auction some time ago with
   >the intent of using it with my persona.  The kettle had obviously
   >been used to cook with for some time, so I wasn't concerned with
   >any problems.
   >Then, the night before I left for our local Rendezvous, I noticed
   >some hard to get out lumps under the grease.  Chipping on them
   >revealed a silvery metal underneath, and heating the pot on a
   >burner confirmed my suspicions when the lumps turned into molten
   >lead... at some point someone had used this pot to melt lead in.
   >Question.  Can this pot be salvaged (i.e. all lead traces removed)
   >for a cooking utensil by subjecting it to high (cherry red) heat?
   >Regards
   >Lee Newbill
   >Viola, Idaho
   >email at [e-mail]
   >Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
   >http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186

Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 04:59:28 -0500
From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not  N

On 1998-06-25 [e-mail] said to [e-mail]
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   >In a message dated 98-06-24 22:55:11 EDT, you write:
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   >ben all over that country an cant rember that town - absorkie -red
   >lodge- colestrip-miles city-dont recall gary owen though. iron
   >tounge
then you go around the REZ all the time! I've thumbed through there many
times on my way to the VA hospital in Miles City!
 Thats something I miss way east of the MIssissippi, I could always get a
ride and ususualy a hot meal going thruogh the rez, something the whites
never think of!
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 04:59:23 -0500
From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BP Guns & Getting Kids Started in Buckskinning (not  N

On 1998-06-24 [e-mail] said to [e-mail]
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   > When he hit the Cheyenne

   >camp at Washita in the winter of 1868 the band was playing that

   Interesting,and I thought there were NO survivors! Are you 132 years old?
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:26:30 -0500
From: WIDD-Tim Austin (WIDD-Tim Austin) <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Day of Infamy??

Speaking of Mr. Custer and his ego.  Is it today or tomorrow that is the
anniversary date for his biggest mistake?  Know it is one of these days,
25 or 26 June.  Just thought I would remind all on this most solemn of
days.

Tim Austin

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:48:41 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooter bags

I am interested in photos or sketches of bags used  for shooting or other
accessories in pre 1850.  I am a craftsperson who does leather, bead and
quillwork and I am interested in making hirtorically accurate bags for re
enactments and 'vous personna.

Red Hawk

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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:20:51 -0700
From: "P. Amschler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Day of Infamy??

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Speaking of Mr. Custer and his ego.  Is it today or tomorrow that is the
anniversary date for his biggest mistake?  Know it is one of these days,
25 or 26 June.  Just thought I would remind all on this most solemn of
days.

Tim Austin

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