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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:05:30 -0700
From: Chris Sega <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Tobacco

Hey I was wonderin If anybody who smokes mullein would clarify as to the
plant they are talking about as discussed previously in Re:tobacco.
Just wonderin if it really is mullein or somethin else.  Plants are
bloomin now so flower descriptions are a good way to determine species.

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 01:07:30 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Conflicting info (FONTENELLE)

Thank you, sir. I do appreciate the information and the effort you put into
finding it. I am trying to read all I can, but there are only so many hours in
a day, and I wanted to see if I could access the list. Thanks again.

I geuss the real irony to my situation is that while in grad school I did a
research project on The Hudson's Bay Trading Company, but it took 7 years to
finally hit me that this was something I wanted to pursue further. Anyway, I
am enjoying reading all of the postings. It is comforting to know that there
are folks out there who get all fired up about their passions with just a
little push, kinda like I do at times.

Keep listening to the wind.

Kevin

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:57:41 -0500
From: "Ken " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco

Howdy again Chris,
Yes I have smoked mullein. Verbascum phlomoides  it blooms on a long
central stalk and the flowers are yellow to light yellow orange. It has a
soft feel to the leaves. It blooms in late summer to early autumn. If the
road crews have not been overly busy you can find it growing along country
roads.
YellowFeather
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> From: Chris Sega <[e-mail]>
> To: Mtnmanlist <[e-mail]>
> Subject: MtMan-List: Tobacco
> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 12:05 AM
>
> Hey I was wonderin If anybody who smokes mullein would clarify as to the
> plant they are talking about as discussed previously in Re:tobacco.
> Just wonderin if it really is mullein or somethin else.  Plants are
> bloomin now so flower descriptions are a good way to determine species.
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 03:54:56 -0500
From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: NRA-Charelton Heston

Its 3:30 am and I just saw Mr. Heston on CBS UP TO THE MINUTE live interview
and was rather impressed,His comments on the recent "School Massacres"(his
words) are the result of the way society is raising kids today.He put the
blame squarely where it belongs,with the parents having to little
involvement in kids lives today. If todays Yuppie A**holes paid attention to
what their kids were doing and having problems with,instead of worrying
about Joe Blow and how he can help with "my life" things would be better.
 My daughter is the reason I'm getting into 'skinning again,been out for 15
years(work and moving to the wrong(E.) side of the Mississippi) She saw
something in the newspaper about a rendezvous and wanted to go, so here I am
and I love it!
Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:52:23 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:MtMan-list:Getting Started in Buckskinning

Modern gadgets on BP rifles, you have just hit upon one of my MAJOR pet
peeves!!!! NMLRA Championship shoots starts next Saturday and I gaurantee you
that on some of those gun, you'll have to look twice to make sure that they
are blackpowder.  I hope the youngin's are dedicated enough, and some of you
old flints too, to keep to the traditional ways.


Red Hawk

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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 08:26:22 -0700
From: Thomas Maines <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:MtMan-list:Getting Started in Buckskinning

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Modern gadgets on BP rifles, you have just hit upon one of my MAJOR pet
> peeves!!!! NMLRA Championship shoots starts next Saturday and I gaurantee you
> that on some of those gun, you'll have to look twice to make sure that they
> are blackpowder.  I hope the youngin's are dedicated enough, and some of you
> old flints too, to keep to the traditional ways.
>
> Red Hawk

Red Hawk

I agree with you 100%, if you want to or need to use all the new
gadgets
that are available for BP guns (including the so called modern muzzle
loaders) than get a modern gun and hunt or shoot in modern matches....

It is going to take the National and State Muzzle loading associations
to take a stand against these modern contraptions and bar them from
competition to do away with them.  This is and has been a primitive
sport
up untill now.  The only saving grace is that the competitors have to
use
a patched round ball and the modern muzzle loading rifles don't shoot
them worth a darn.  They have to fast a twist.

Keep muzzle loading primitive!!!!!!1
- --

Your Humble Servant,
Tom (Cold Hands) Maines
[e-mail]
http://home.att.net/~tmaines.outback/index.htm

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans
possess over the people of almost every other nation.  ...
Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several
kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public
resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the
people with arms."

James Madison (in federlist paper No. 46)

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:45:59 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: NRA-Charelton Heston

I concur with you on Mr Heston and I applaud your honesty about the yuppie
parents. Glad to see someone taking a positive step with their kid(s). Makes
me proud to be associated with the group.

While I am "up" has anyone ever run across a guy by the name of Bob Fix ( real
muscular, bald, very knowledgeable) at a 'voo? He is the man that introduced
me to skinnin' and beadin' and such, and I have lost touch him over the years.
Can't find an e-mail address. I f anyone knows I would appreciate the scoop.
E-mail me direct at KP MTN [e-mail].

YMHOS,

Kevin

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:30:53 -0500
From: "Pam and Randy Kozak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: please post this on MtMan-List: Traps Wanted

My name is Nick

I was wondering if you could post this.

I collect old Newhouse traps and bear traps and I was hoping that if anyone
had some, they would e-mail me.  I have also been thinking bout making my
own  #1 longspring that would be almost exactly like a #1 Newhouse.  If I
ever made a doz or so, maybe someone would want one??????

Nick Kozak
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:09:01 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Pierce)
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-list:Getting Started in Buckskinning

I have the same pet peave but remember that in the primative valley they
aint legal nor allowed---that is why they purchased the 205 many years
ago so that the primitative guys will have a place and dont have to
socialize with the flatlander yuppies---

WILL THE PERSON THAT POSTED THE ORIGINAL POSTING ON THIS STRING PLEASE
CONTACT ME OFFLINE.    I was in the garage going thru my treasures and am
sure that i have some things that the kid can use and enjoy if he is
getting into the sport--I know that there are several pretty good horns
and a fire kit or two a big stack of hand made turkey calls and I dont
know what else but if he will drop me a note along with his addresss I
will dig out what I have and send it to him at no charge-- need to
recycle that stuff so that a new buckskinner can enjoy the sport the same
as i have for over 40 years---several old timers helped and guided me
when i started and they told me that it was always important to help a
new person starting the sport to promote and keep the mountain man
triditions and way of life continueing---some day he may do the same for
others---I personally dont care for the squabbeling and crap and am here
to say I WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO HELP HIM OR GIVE HIM ANY INFORMATION
THAT I HAVE IN MY POSSESSION THAT WILL ASSIST HIM AND HIS PARENT IN
GETTING STARTED.  he can call me or e-mail me i dont care---my
information is at the signature block
        =+=
      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]
E-MAIL ADDRESS:   [e-mail]
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:52:23 EDT <[e-mail]> writes:
>Modern gadgets on BP rifles, you have just hit upon one of my MAJOR
>pet
>peeves!!!! NMLRA Championship shoots starts next Saturday and I
>gaurantee you
>that on some of those gun, you'll have to look twice to make sure that
>they
>are blackpowder.  I hope the youngin's are dedicated enough, and some
>of you
>old flints too, to keep to the traditional ways.
>
>
>Red Hawk
>
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:28:19 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Pierce)
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-list:twist aint the problem:

I understand the dislikes for the modern types of muzzloaders and have
changed the subject line so that we can keep a new subject---the average
shooter that starts with the new fangled thing that they call a
muzzleloader with the inline ignition and all--- normally is quite
lazy---that is the reason that they dont take the gun out and learn what
and how and all the things about it and come to the conclusions that it
aint the right thing to be at a national match and try to shoot---it is
also a psychological thing that they are using trying to get us
traditional types upset and not do our best---My triditional buffilo gun
with open sights will still shoot 50's at 50 yards and thats good enough
for me

I posted a long article on twist about 2 or three weeks ago you must have
missed it----pure lazyness is the major problem and not being properly
informed  and not taking the time to do something is---
      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]

On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 08:26:22 -0700 Thomas Maines
<[e-mail]> writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> Modern gadgets on BP rifles, you have just hit upon one of my MAJOR
>pet
>> peeves!!!! NMLRA Championship shoots starts next Saturday and I
>gaurantee you
>> that on some of those gun, you'll have to look twice to make sure
>that they
>> are blackpowder.  I hope the youngin's are dedicated enough, and
>some of you
>> old flints too, to keep to the traditional ways.
>>
>> Red Hawk
>
>Red Hawk
>
>I agree with you 100%, if you want to or need to use all the new
>gadgets
>that are available for BP guns (including the so called modern muzzle
>loaders) than get a modern gun and hunt or shoot in modern matches....
>
>It is going to take the National and State Muzzle loading associations
>to take a stand against these modern contraptions and bar them from
>competition to do away with them.  This is and has been a primitive
>sport
>up untill now.  The only saving grace is that the competitors have to
>use
>a patched round ball and the modern muzzle loading rifles don't shoot
>them worth a darn.  They have to fast a twist.
>
>Keep muzzle loading primitive!!!!!!1
>--
>
>Your Humble Servant,
>Tom (Cold Hands) Maines
>[e-mail]
>http://home.att.net/~tmaines.outback/index.htm
>
>"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans
>possess over the people of almost every other nation.  ...
>Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several
>kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public
>resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the
>people with arms."
>
>James Madison (in federlist paper No. 46)
>
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:41:34 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Pierce)
Subject: Re: please post this on MtMan-List: Traps Wanted

nick more power to you in the forgeing process-- i hope it is a
success---i just found a good book at barns and nobel on sale the name is
"the art of blacksmithing"  by alex w bealer---ISBN # 0-7858-0395-5 has
over 500 pictures and lots of good detail information.  its 438 pages
long---they had iot on special for $9.98---- hell of a bargain--- if you
don't have it look and see if you can find it-

will look thru my stash and see if i have any traps that i want to get
rid of and will contact you offline if i do----
         =+=
      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]

On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:30:53 -0500 "Pam and Randy Kozak"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>My name is Nick
>
>I was wondering if you could post this.
>
>I collect old Newhouse traps and bear traps and I was hoping that if
>anyone
>had some, they would e-mail me.  I have also been thinking bout making
>my
>own  #1 longspring that would be almost exactly like a #1 Newhouse.
>If I
>ever made a doz or so, maybe someone would want one??????
>
>Nick Kozak
>[e-mail]
>
>

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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:59:03 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Henry B. Crawford)
Subject: MtMan-List: NMLRA

Friends,
Please allow me to change the subject line for this string so that the poor
soul who is merely looking for information to get himself and his kid
started in buckskinning doesn't have to listen to shouting matches about
the merits of the NMLRA in the course of seeking that information.
Personally, I don't care what the NMLRA does or doesn't do for it's
members.  Buckskinning and muzzleloading are here to stay, and I'm content
with knowing that.

Cheers,
HBC

*****************************************
Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
[e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
806/742-2442           Box 43191
FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
               WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:35:41 -0500
From: "Ken " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: NRA-Charelton Heston

How soon some people forget! This man is an actor. He reads well! back in
1968 he showed his true colors when he backed the GCA of 68. This man is a
liar. He was on a radio program recently and made an anti gun statement and
then tried to wiggle out of it. Now he wants to be President of NRA. Maybe
that is where he belongs since NRA has sold it's members out anyway. The
Brady II law, that the NRA backed will go into effect this Dec. 1 and the
FBI will be keeping records on ALL gun sales, NOT just handguns. Heston is
all for this. In case your education was week, this behavior by the FBI is
unconstitutional and illegal! I hope Dean will post this as someone needs
to inform our list as to what is going on. Anyone who wants a copy of the
alert I recieved, contact me off line.
Ken YellowFeather

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> From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: MtMan-List: NRA-Charelton Heston
> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 3:54 AM
>
> Its 3:30 am and I just saw Mr. Heston on CBS UP TO THE MINUTE live
interview
> and was rather impressed,His comments on the recent "School
Massacres"(his
> words) are the result of the way society is raising kids today.He put the
> blame squarely where it belongs,with the parents having to little
> involvement in kids lives today. If todays Yuppie A**holes paid attention
to
> what their kids were doing and having problems with,instead of worrying
> about Joe Blow and how he can help with "my life" things would be better.
>  My daughter is the reason I'm getting into 'skinning again,been out for
15
> years(work and moving to the wrong(E.) side of the Mississippi) She saw
> something in the newspaper about a rendezvous and wanted to go, so here I
am
> and I love it!
> Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:07:33 -0400
From: "Mill, Kirk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: hardtack

I made a batch of hardtack last night and it turned out pretty good. Now
I see on a web site today that the ingredients in hardtack and
"playdough" are identical (flour, salt & water), so if you want to save
some time just buy some white playdough, roll it out and bake it. Has
anybody ever heard of this? I can't imagine anything being much easier
than mixing flour, salt and water. I would suspect that playdough
contains some sort of preservatrive. Just curious as to what the sage
advice of the MLML would be. And I was hoping that this subject would be
sufficiently silly enough to steer the conversation away from all the
political talk. I am sure theses topics are of importance, I'm just
ready for some new "how to"tuff.

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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 16:36:22 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Henry B. Crawford)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hardtack

>I made a batch of hardtack last night and it turned out pretty good. Now
>I see on a web site today that the ingredients in hardtack and
>"playdough" are identical (flour, salt & water), so if you want to save
>some time just buy some white playdough, roll it out and bake it.

I can remember when I was a kid (very, very young) that I used to try to
eat playdough.  I can still remember the taste.  BLAAGHH!!  Must have
something to do with the proportions.  It was a bit on the salty side.

Orange hardtack, eh??  There's a marketing angle there somewhere.

Cheers,
HBC

*****************************************
Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
[e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
806/742-2442           Box 43191
FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
               WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
******  Living History . . . Because it's there!  *******

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:19:59 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hardtack

Did your web site say Playdough or homemade equivilent of Playdough was
flour, salt and water?  I always thought it smelled more like storebought
pound cake--or carp bait.  However, if anyone bakes up a batch of Playdough
and eats some, it will prove H.L.Menken was right.  I am all for silly,
however.  My wife says that based on behavior alone, I could get into movies
for half price.  After all buckskinners are just like boyscouts except that
we don't have responsible adult supervision.
Big Zwey

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mill, Kirk <[e-mail]>
To: ML MAILING LIST <[e-mail]>
Cc: history mailing list <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 1:08 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: hardtack


>I made a batch of hardtack last night and it turned out pretty good. Now
>I see on a web site today that the ingredients in hardtack and
>"playdough" are identical (flour, salt & water), so if you want to save
>some time just buy some white playdough, roll it out and bake it. Has
>anybody ever heard of this? I can't imagine anything being much easier
>than mixing flour, salt and water. I would suspect that playdough
>contains some sort of preservatrive. Just curious as to what the sage
>advice of the MLML would be. And I was hoping that this subject would be
>sufficiently silly enough to steer the conversation away from all the
>political talk. I am sure theses topics are of importance, I'm just
>ready for some new "how to"tuff.
>

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Date: 09 Jun 98 15:38:51 +0000
From: Phyllis and Don Keas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:Southwest supplies and clothes..

Get an old jacket that fits you, is about the same type (short) and tear
it up to use for a pattern.  You can't really mess up using leather.  If
it is too big you can cut some more out and if too small, jump some more
in.  Do it halfway right and you can't even tell it when you do.

DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS --- PROPRIETORS OF THE NADA TRADING COMPANY

mxhbc wrote:
>>Call James "Horsefly" Halter in Henrietta, Texas.  He used to make the
>>buckskinner trade circuit and sold lots of southwestern style clothes.
He
>>services the gunfighters these days but he is still a damn fine tailor
and
>>can probably make whatever you want.  Some of his clothes were seen in
the
>>movie Tombstone.  Be forewarned, he is sometimes as cranky as a cold
Model T
>>Ford.  Ask about his boots, too.
>>Lanney Ratcliff
>>[e-mail]
>
>Horsefly is a good source for information and ideas, and he's an
excellent
>period tailor, but unless he's is willing to reproduce his patterns for
>sale, I think we're back at square one.  I could buy what I need from
>Horsefly, which I have done, but I too would like to have a New Mexican
>jacket made by my own hands.  I have the skins, but not the patterns.
>
>HBC
>
>*****************************************
>Henry B. Crawford        Curator of History
>[e-mail]     Museum of Texas Tech University
>806/742-2442           Box 43191
>FAX [phone]             Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
>               WEBSITE: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum
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>
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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:29:14 -0700
From: Frank <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: please post this on MtMan-List: Traps Wanted

Nick,

Is a #1 Newhouse the type used for beaver?  If so, I'd be interested.  Let me
know if you do make 'em.

Medicine Bear


> My name is Nick
>
> I was wondering if you could post this.
>
> I collect old Newhouse traps and bear traps and I was hoping that if anyone
> had some, they would e-mail me.  I have also been thinking bout making my
> own  #1 longspring that would be almost exactly like a #1 Newhouse.  If I
> ever made a doz or so, maybe someone would want one??????
>
> Nick Kozak
> [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:28:50 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: lodges

no go sorry but at roov we try to stick with what was around at the time and
green wall tent  will not make. try a small piece of white cavaus

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:43:09 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw:

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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:09:56 -0700
From: Chris Sega <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Traps Wanted

Just to clarify, the book "The Art of Blacksmithing " was written by
Alexander G. Weygers.  A better deal than buying The Art of
Blacksmithing is to get all of Weygers books in one in a compilation
called " The Complete Modern Blacksmith" ISBN
0-89815-896-6.
Chris Sega

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:54:10 +0000
From: "Mike Katona" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:Southwest supplies and clothes..

The best part is that all of the research says that they were "ill
fitting."
You are not suppose to look like you are out of a Willie Nelson
movie, but a trapper that wintered in Taos or Santa Fe.
Mike

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:33:30 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Pierce)
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Traps Wanted

CRIS YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE BOOK THAT I PICKED UP HAS A DIFFERENT ISBN
NUMBER AND YES IT IS BY A DIFFERENT AUTHOR---the other book you speak of
is quite good ---it;s i just found a good bargan, I should have also
quoted the one you are speaking of---the complete data for the book i was
speaking of is:

The art of blacksmithing
author:   Alex w.Bealer
ISBN:  0-7858-0395-5
by castle books  copyright 1976 first edition ---second revised edition
1969
library of congress number TT220.B35 1976  682   76-4546
the book is dedicated to James f. Whitley (1873-1972)
      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]

On Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:09:56 -0700 Chris Sega <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Just to clarify, the book "The Art of Blacksmithing " was written by
>Alexander G. Weygers.  A better deal than buying The Art of
>Blacksmithing is to get all of Weygers books in one in a compilation
>called " The Complete Modern Blacksmith" ISBN
>0-89815-896-6.
>Chris Sega
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:22:23 -0500
From: Jeff Powers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:  Traps Wanted

On 1998-06-09 [e-mail] said to [e-mail]
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   >Just to clarify, the book "The Art of Blacksmithing " was written by
   >Alexander G. Weygers.  A better deal than buying The Art of
   >Blacksmithing is to get all of Weygers books in one in a compilation
   >called " The Complete Modern Blacksmith" ISBN
   >0-89815-896-6.
   >Chris Sega
Chris, I have "The Art of Blacksmithing" in front of me. It was written by
ALEX BEALER and the normal retail price from Cntaur Forge or Larson Books is
$9.95, I just got a replacement copy after my old one disapeared. I also
have Weygers books(badly beaten up) and I do not think they are better, just
equally as important to me.





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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 98 10:19:24 -0400
From: Kirsten Smith and Tania Dopler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hardtack

Interesting that someone is trying to make thier own hardtack.  I was
born and raised in Newfoundland and there, hardtack is part of the local
diet and is produced by a company there on the island.  The hard tack is
soaked overnight then cooked with salt fish to make fishermans brewis.
Newfies love the stuff,  I also find the hard bread is nice for snacking.
 The company there in Nfld.  also produces a variety called sweet
bread... which is more for snacking or eating as is.  Anyway, wherever
you find a large community of Newfies you will find a store that sells
this hard tack... i am sure it tastes much better than Play-doh!  It
would never have occured to me to try to make hard tack myself... what is
the proceedure?

YMHS
Hawk Dancing

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:36:14 -0700
From: [e-mail] (john c funk,jr)
Subject: MtMan-List: [e-mail] (kent klein): Tan/alum

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From: [e-mail] (kent klein)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Tan/alum
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 19:26:02 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Hello the camp.....

I have been in contact with Kent Klein regarding his tanning with alum.
Below (I hope)  is a reply to my inquiry about his book.  Hope you find
it of use.

John Funk

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Tan Your Hide the Alum Way"  explains in simple detail the
process of tanning with aluminum sulfate (Alum).  This tan, which has
been used since the Egyptians, is a relatively easy method of tanning
animal and fur bearing hides with hair or fur on or off.  The book cost
is Ten dollars postpaid. To order, contact: Kent Klein   1537 West 4920
South, Taylorsville, Utah  84123  e-mail @ [e-mail]

    Thank you for your help with putting this on the internet.  Will
you please let me know where I may find this once you get it posted.

    Best regards,
    Kent Klein
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:20:16 -0400
From: "Mill, Kirk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: hardtack

It's pretty simple, just mix about 2 cups of flour and =BD tbs. of salt
with enough water to make a stiff dough. Roll it out  thin on a cookie
sheet, Score it into squares ( about 2" x 2") and poke some holes in =
it.
Bake it at 400 degrees for about 45 minutes until it is lightly browned
and there you have it.

Bon Appetit

Kirk Mill

    -----Original Message-----
    From:    Kirsten Smith and Tania Dopler [SMTP:[e-mail]]
    Sent:    Wednesday, June 10, 1998 10:19 AM
    To:    [e-mail]
    Subject:    Re: MtMan-List: hardtack

    Interesting that someone is trying to make thier own hardtack.
I was=20
    born and raised in Newfoundland and there, hardtack is part of
the local=20
    diet and is produced by a company there on the island.  The hard
tack is=20
    soaked overnight then cooked with salt fish to make fishermans
brewis. =20
    Newfies love the stuff,  I also find the hard bread is nice for
snacking.=20
     The company there in Nfld.  also produces a variety called
sweet=20
    bread... which is more for snacking or eating as is.  Anyway,
wherever=20
    you find a large community of Newfies you will find a store that
sells=20
    this hard tack... i am sure it tastes much better than Play-doh!
It=20
    would never have occured to me to try to make hard tack
myself... what is=20
    the proceedure?

    YMHS
    Hawk Dancing

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:35:57 -0400
From: Matt Despain <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Priming Horns

Just bought my first flinter and been looking for a priming horn. But I
can't find anyone in my region (Oklahoma) who deals in any kind of
buckskinning matter.  So I thought I'd put out a message here and see if
anyone had a priming horn that was just collecting dust and would like
to give it a new home (for a reasonable price that is). Anyone
interested drop me a note here or at my own e-mail.

Thanks,

Matt Despain
[e-mail]

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