Subject: Re: MtMan-List: DRESS AND EQUIPAGE of the Mountain Man 1820-1840
Date: 01 Apr 2004 23:49:37 +0000
<html><div style='background-color:'><P>Try contacting Wes directly. On the back of the video cover is Wes's number. He may have books or can give you the publishers name. 505-687-3267</P>
<P>Later,</P>
<P>Mike<BR></P>
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<DIV></DIV>"Aux Aliments du Pays"! >From: "Sean Boushie" <flintlocknfur@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: DRESS AND EQUIPAGE of the Mountain Man 1820-1840 >Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:43:47 +0000 > >The video is there, and still readily avaliable many places, but no >book. > > >>From: "John McKee" <stitchin@sirisonline.com> >>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> >>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: DRESS AND EQUIPAGE of the Mountain Man >>1820-1840 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:28:46 -0600 >> >>Check out www.crazycrow.com and look in their book section. It's >>there. >> >> >>The Stitchin' Scotsman >>100% Handsewn Elkhide garments >>and moccasins >>Manu Forti >>www.stitchinscotsman.com >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Sean Boushie" <flintlocknfur@hotmail.com> >>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> >>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:23 AM >>Subject: MtMan-List: DRESS AND EQUIPAGE of the Mountain Man >>1820-1840 >> >> >> > >> > >> > Hello the list, >> > >> > Does anyone know where I could get a copy of Jeff Hengesbaugh >>and Wess >> > Housler's book DRESS AND EQUIPAGE of the Mountain Man >>1820-1840? >> > >> > I can't seem to find it anywhere. >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > >> > SMB >> >> >> >>---------------------- >>hist_text list info: >>http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page û >FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: >http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html </div><br clear=all><hr> <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2752??PS=">Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar û FREE!</a> </html>
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I have taken the standard, advanced standard, and advanced tracking. The more advanced the class, the less content could be found in books. The standard curriculum could be learned from books and a fair amount of dirt time figuring things out. The advanced standard is much more hands on, but a lot of the fundamentals could be gotten from books. There is a good amount of helpful hints that save a lot of time figuring out the details. The movement and camo portion is not in any book, nor are a number of the traps covered, and there are a lot. Also, some shelter info not in a book, which you get to test out firsthand while you are there. The advanced tracking class goes way beyond anything in print in just the first day. Tom experimented with teaching us a little about micro and macro pressure releases, and it really speeded up the classes progress in seeing tracks on difficult soil. Also more info on camo and movement not found in any book and the fundamentals of reading concentric
rings are covered. The concentric ring stuff can be found in John Youngs tapes on bird language. Talk to you later.
Nathan
MarkLoader@aol.com wrote:
Thanks Nathan
Your comments are about I would expect the standard class would be. Cover the basics in many areas so that all the students have a good foundation to go on to more advances in other areas. Tom has 27 other courses to choose from some have prerequisites besides the standard course. I like you have many (more than most) survival skills. I was once complement and asked for impute on friction fire building by John McPherson. What courses did you take?
Thanks again I hope I get more feed back.
Mark Loader #1849
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<DIV>I have taken the standard, advanced standard, and advanced tracking. The more advanced the class, the less content could be found in books. The standard curriculum could be learned from books and a fair amount of dirt time figuring things out. The advanced standard is much more hands on, but a lot of the fundamentals could be gotten from books. There is a good amount of helpful hints that save a lot of time figuring out the details. The movement and camo portion is not in any book, nor are a number of the traps covered, and there are a lot. Also, some shelter info not in a book, which you get to test out firsthand while you are there. The advanced tracking class goes way beyond anything in print in just the first day. Tom experimented with teaching us a little about micro and macro pressure releases, and it really speeded up the classes progress in seeing tracks on difficult soil. Also more info on camo and movement not found in any book and the fundamentals of reading
concentric rings are covered. The concentric ring stuff can be found in John Youngs tapes on bird language. Talk to you later.</DIV>
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Here are a few entries that I pulled up on shooting at marks
and why the mountaineers shoot off their guns. These mostly came
from the manuscript of my second book, which should be out shortly.
I hope they help.
mike.
...in the mean time all fire arms are being examined, shot off and reloaded to be all in readiness for an attack. And we are well prepared for it; all the wagoners are well armed, William and the DctrÆs company, and within our little tent we have twelve sure rounds, a double-barreled shot gun, a pair of holster and one pair of belt pistols,
Susan Magoffin, p. 193, 1847
On the 8th [10th] of March 1824 [1823] all things ready we shoved off from the shore fired a swivel which was answered by a Shout from the shore which we returned with a will and porceed up stream under sail
James Clyman, p. 9, 1823
[at the rendezvous]Here we found the hunting Parties all assembled waiting for the arrival of Supplies from the States. Here presented what might be termed a mixed multitude The whites were chiefly Americans and Canadian French with some Dutch, Scotch, Irish, English, halfbreed, and full blood Indians, of nearly every tribe in the Rocky Mountains. Some were gambling at Cards some playing the Indian game of hand and others horse racing while here and there could be seen small groups collected under shady trees relating the events of the past year all in good Spirits and health for Sickness is a Stranger seldom met with in these regions. Sheep Elk Deer Buffaloe and Bear Skins mostly supply the Mountaineers with clothing bedding and lodges while the meat of the same animals supplies them with food. They have not the misfortune to get any of the luxuries from the civilized world but once a year and then in such small quantities that they last but a few days.
Osborne Russell, pp. 58-59, 1837
We were upon the water this morning at half past three, were more than two hours ashore for breakfast, reached the mouth of the Cowlitz River at noon and encamped for the night at 5 oÆclock when we all turned out to a target and were at complete counters. It was rifles against guns and guns against riflesà If we continued on at this rate, thought I, we may like the Bow Bell Train bands, so far improve as to be enabled to discharge our pieces without blinking.
Francis Ermatinger, p. 99, 1828
A small Cannon brought up from St Louis was loaded and fired for a salute.
Jedediah Smith, p. 197, 1827
July 4th
We travelled a short distance to-day when on arriving at a large spring of most delicious water situated in a beautiful grove, where we concluded to spend the National Anniversary of American Independence; and accordingly our hunters went out in the afternoon and killed several very fat buffalo, which were dressed and the choice parts prepared for a grand feast on the morrow. When the morn of the glorious fourth first dawned we gave three salutes, spent the morning in various kinds of amusement, and at noon partook of our national dinner, which was relished the better as we had a small portion of good old brandy, which we drank in a few minutes, deeply regretting that we had not a small portion of what was that day destroyed by the millions of freemen in the States.ù The remainder of the day was celebrated by drinking toasts, singing songs, shooting at mark, running, jumping and practising on our horsesùhaving the two Spaniards still with us, who learned us many singular pranks, and were a valuable addition to our company, as they created a great deal of fun, and were always in a good humor.
Zenas Leonard, pp. 216-17, 1834
July 28th
Before he went off, however, Mr. MÆLellan, to show him [an Indian who was captured] the effects of fire-arms in the hands of the whites, set up a piece of board, with a white spot on it, only two inches in diameter, and in three successive shots, at a hundred yards distance, with his rifle he pierced the bullÆs eye; then stopping up the holes of two of the shots, put a hazel-nut in the third, and broke it with two successive shots at the same distance.
Alexander Ross, p. 198, 1812
After the pipes were extinguished, all agreed to have a frolic shooting at a mark which occupied the remainder of the dayà
Osborne Russell, pp. 114-6
> Folks, another question: What do you have as history on different types of
> shooting games/challenges that would be accomplished at rendezvous? I am
> interested in how they showed their marksmanship skills while hanging out
> together.
>
> Ed "Brother Bear" Stuart
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Frank, check out the liner classifieds in Muzzle Loader magazine...... Oliver McCloskey out of Cedar City Utah. I've bought his hides, they are about as cheap as you can find. They aren't as fine as you might find, but for the price they are a bargain. Yfab, Randy
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Hello list,
Looking for a good reliabe source of braintan hides. Wes Housler is busy with buff. robes . Also looking to see if anyone has made any shirts , breeches, leggins or pants out of antelope brain tan. From what I have read it is a durable lightweight hide to use.....your thoughts....I have read accounts where antelope was used.
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Frank, check out the liner classifieds in Muzzle Loader magazine...... Oliver McCloskey out of Cedar City Utah. I've bought his hides, they are about as cheap as you can find. They aren't as fine as you might find, but for the price they are a bargain. Yfab, Randy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">Hello list,<BR>Looking for a good reliabe source of braintan hides. Wes Housler is busy with buff. robes . Also looking to see if anyone has made any shirts , breeches, leggins or pants out of antelope brain tan. From what I have read it is a durable lightweight hide to use.....your thoughts....I have read accounts where antelope was used.<BR><BR>Frank Sablan<BR>Midland,Texas</FONT> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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