<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I wouldn't shoot a coyote....These just "follow" us, yipping, growling, barking and acting like we are trespassers.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B>that'd be 'cuz you, like the rest of us, are <GGG><BR>
I'm no trepasser. The Creator put me on this earth, my forefathers fought
and sweated to conquer this land, I bought and paid for my little piece of
it. I've got as much right to live on it as any ol' 'yote.
Respectfully,
jr sweet
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>Sorry to say but all that stuff is made for one reason and that is to get you to buy it. For when you start walking or doing any thing that causes your body to warm up you give of odor and they can smell ya. I have had my best luck with just rubbing elk urine on me when hunting but ya got to do it regularly or your stink will come through...
>See ya on the trail
>Crazy Cyot
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Crazy,
Been out in the field doing research on a new fine in the northwest section of the state, an unknown village just discovered. We have to mark and ident. the area on maps then bring in the college students to start the dig. Reason for not coming right back with an answer.
Whatever you/me or whoever uses has a marketing background Crazy, that's what pays the bills, not ours but theirs.
Probably the one person we both know that has shot as much or more game animals over the years is Buck C., the reason I say that is he hunted for the state of PA after coming back from E. Asia as an animal control agent, didn't try and save them in the 60's, just got rid of the problems and he was good at his job.
He would probably agree with you on most of what you said except for the soap that takes out the "brighteners" that regular soap adds when clothes are washed. I've seen him and several of his hunting friends crawl up close enough to have made meat with a hawk on antelope, granded they are not as leary as white tail, but still the animals never looked their way in the process of getting close.
What I had mentioned was what I see when in the field checking hunters in our seasons here in PA, the bow hunters with some of the items mentioned seem to have the most success. Most animal urine will work, in E. Asia the VC could pick up our sense from our urine and other waste because of our diet - reason why special forces started eating the same thing they ate.
As far as smoking, that's been an on going "do and don't" subject for decades, probably today more than ever before; maybe some parents use it as a "carrot" to keep the kids from smoking. <GGG>.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I've got as much right to live on it as any ol' 'yote</BLOCKQUOTE>.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B>JR, Seems you took my comment WAY too seriously. In case you aren't familiar with internet symbolism, the <GGG> at the end of my post indicated a tongue-in-cheek grin......... Barney</FONT></HTML>
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Subject: MtMan-List: Laguna Mountain Rendezvous - October 2002
Date: 04 Aug 2002 02:20:50 EDT
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For all who may be attending the LAGUNA MOUNTAIN RENDEZVOUS, in the Mesa
Grande/Santa Ysabel area of Southern California, please take note, AND PASS
THE WORD, that there will be NO OPEN FIRES at the event this coming October.
Propane, Butane, etc will be permitted. If you have any questions, contact
the
Booshway, Mitch Foster @ (661) 763-3634. Barney
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">For all who may be attending the LAGUNA MOUNTAIN RENDEZVOUS, in the Mesa<BR>
Grande/Santa Ysabel area of Southern California, please take note, AND PASS THE WORD, that there will be NO OPEN FIRES at the event this coming October. Propane, Butane, etc will be permitted. If you have any questions, contact the<BR>
Buck Conner has a like new blunderbuss (original) that he picked up for a present for his father in the late 50's. After his father received it he checked the bore and found it was loaded, this is what's interesting.
Buck has an old glass rolling pin used for baking that his father put the contents of the brass barreled blunderbuss in; 1st load removed was old cloth with a stripe print, small square cut nails and broken green glass, more of the same cloth, then very fine powder (like cigar ash) - 2nd load was similar patching/different print, a half dozen lead balls about 36 or 38 cal., a small handmade iron chain (8-9" long), more patching and then fine powder like first load removed. The lock is very large with a "French Amber" flint wrapped in leather and it still throws a shower of sparks. From the proof marks and inspector marks this blunderbuss belonged to the British Navy and has a pre-1760's date.
Write him and see if he'll sent you a picture, it is a very nice piece. What a tipi sweeper this would have been in a mountain camp.
Later
Concho [HRD]
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On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 9:3:14 -0
Randal Bublitz wrote:
>Scatter guns were a popular item for the camp guard at night, also would
>come in handy during an attack. an escopeta is a spanish smooth bore
>carried by the spanish soldiers, etc... hardtack
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>> [Original Message]
>> From: <Wahkahchim@aol.com>
>> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> > Date: 8/8/02 3:05:51 PM
>> Subject: MtMan-List: Blunderbusses
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>> Why were they used as a camp tool by Mountain men? My family history
>lists several in old records in California as "escopetas". What were they
>for?
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>--- Randal Bublitz
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>we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers,
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Contact Buck Conner, he has done a dozen of them made of aluminum to kelvar and they look good, he did a series years ago for the COHT on doing what you want, and I saw those photo's at his place a few months ago. He not on this list but you can contact him through the AMM site.
Later
Concho [HRD]
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:06:42
Todd Glover wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I just purchased a used Aluminum canoe and would like to "artifake" it
>by painting it to look like a birchbark.
>Does anyone have any good photos or links which would give me some ideas
<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>Check out these sites. There are pics of Algonquin, Mic Mac, Ojibwe, Mohawk, Aboriginal and a heap of others scattered throughout..... <BR>
Hope this is of some help. Barney<BR>
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when I finish building my santa Fe saddle ,I would like to join y'all
jim branson
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In a message dated 8/21/02 4:28:43 AM, longbutt@hotmail.com writes:
<< did mountain men use nose or ear rings ?>>
Why would they? or Why would they not? They were just people who came to
the mountains to work and did not subscribe to any particular costuming. Now
there were French Voyageurs who were a little more social that were reported
to have worn them. Remember ONE ear ring only - and that in the left ear.
Seems they discovered early the cock on a recoiling firelock would catch an
ear ring and bend it badly. Didn't do much good for the ear, either.
Richard James
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: conflict with missionaries
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Try Fred Gowans' ROCKY MOUNTAIN RENDEZVOUS, BYU Press, 1976, for first-hand
accounts of what the missionaries thought of the mountain men and their
behavior during the annual rendezvous'.
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As for priced noses I would dout it very much not unless the trapper was a
half breed form one of the tribes that did priced there noses and out west
there were not that many tribes that did this. As for ears If a trapper again
was from or adopted by a tribe, there is a chance that he would get his ears
priced but it would have been both ears as that was the custom of the tribes.
As for having problem when shooting a rifle only if ya wear long dangly type
ear rings would this be a b problem. As for this being something that would
be done by many trappers I dout it. For in none of Miller's pictures does he
shows no trappers with ear rings and I have found no mention of them being
worn in any of the journals that I have read. Not saying it was not done but
it is not documented as far I know.
See on the trail
Crazy Cyot
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>As for priced noses I would dout it very much not unless the trapper was a half breed form one of the tribes that did priced there noses and out west there were not that many tribes that did this. As for ears If a trapper again was from or adopted by a tribe, there is a chance that he would get his ears priced but it would have been both ears as that was the custom of the tribes. As for having problem when shooting a rifle only if ya wear long dangly type ear rings would this be a b problem. As for this being something that would be done by many trappers I dout it. For in none of Miller's pictures does he shows no trappers with ear rings and I have found no mention of them being worn in any of the journals that I have read. Not saying it was not done but it is not documented as far I know.
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Hey was just checking a few sites and see that the buffalo raffle has had over 1200 hits on the counter, wonder how the raffle is doing, what's happening Randy. Are the odds of winning as good as before or has that chaged with new tickets ? Has to be still better than state LOTTO tickets and for sure more edible.
Watch the skyline when leaving and do come back.
Concho [HRD]
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Careful out there, Ladies and Gents. Someone has figured out how to send
from the AMM history list with bogus subject lines like "MICROSOFT
CORPORATION". There is an attached .zip file YOU SHOULD NOT OPEN UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES. In fact, you are best off to just delete the mail without
reading it.
This is a sign of the times; they're coming from Lists of all types that are
being mined for addresses. The latest one I got came from the hist_text
@lists.xmission.com, but was sent to a different email than the one I use for
the List.
Sorry to take up bandwidth with us, but better safe than sorry. Barn
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This is a sign of the times; they're coming from Lists of all types that are being mined for addresses. The latest one I got came from the hist_text @lists.xmission.com, but was sent to a different email than the one I use for the List.<BR>
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>Hey Guys, This is what I was mentioning the other day about addresses appearing to be mined from the History List, and then emails being sent as though they were coming from the List or one of us. <BR>
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I have also sent this to Dean, but if anyone talks to him today, please let him ASAP, as he may know how to deal with it.<BR>
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To Mark Loader: Mark, I received the below eMail WITH A VIRUS LADEN ATTACHMENT from your screen name, so I thought I'd let you know. I've never seen this happen with AOL members, unless they also use Outlook or some other MickeySoft mailing program. Let me know if you are able to find anything out. Thanks, Barney<BR>
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