Kathie Johnson (writer, researcher 7 reenacter) found reference to pasta and it's use in the settlements, villages and forts along the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers in the mid to late 1700's. According to her research and maybe gut feelings it was something available to those that could afford it, I have never seen it on trade lists or listed as a supply item on any of the supplier invoices, but have found all the items listed that one would need to make pasta. So like she says, possibily it was made in the settled areas and sold or served as a special side dish. We both agreed that only someone of wealth would have had such a product in the field, common man - NOT.
To take Ole's comment a step further, below are some pertinent entries from Webster's 1828 dictionary, which is obviously early 19th century, not Rev War era 18th century. The same description still seems to fit. Note that no mention in the entry for macaroni mentions pasta at all, rather a cookie instead.
Everybody should have a copy of this dictionary. It is a very valuable tool.
YMOS
Lanney
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MACARO'NI, n. [Gr. happy.]
1. A kind of biscuit made of flour, eggs, sugar and almonds, and dressed with butter and spices.
2. A sort of droll or fool, and hence, a fop; a fribble; a finical fellow.
MACARON'IC, a. Pertaining to or like a macaroni; empty; trifling; vain; affected.
1. Consisting of a mixture or jumble of ill formed or ill connected words.
MACAROON, the same as macaroni.
FRIB'BLE, a. [L. frivolus.] Frivolous; trifling; silly.
FRIB'BLE, n. A frivolous, trifling, contemptible fellow.
FOP, n. [The Latin voppa, a senseless fellow, is evidently from the same root, with the sense of emptiness or lightness.]
A vain man of weak understanding and much ostentation; one whose ambition is to gain admiration by showy dress and pertness; a gay trifling man; a coxcomb.
COXCOMB, n. [cocks comb.]
1. The top of the head.
2. The comb resembling that of a cock, which licensed fools wore formerly in their caps.
3. A fop; a vain showy fellow; a superficial pretender to knowledge or accomplishments.
4. A kind of red flower; a name given to a species of Celosia, and some other plants
FIN'ICAL, a. [from fine.]
1. Nice; spruce; foppish; pretending to a great nicety or superfluous elegance; as a finical fellow.
2. Affectedly nice or showy; as a finical dress.
FIN'ICALLY, adv. With great nicety or spruceness; foppishly.
FIN'ICALNESS, n. Extreme nicety in dress or manners; foppishness.
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> Hello the camp,
> The term Macaroni as mentioned in the song "Yanke Dodle", is a 18th century term meaning too fancy, over dressed, showey. Just thought you would like to know.
> YMOS
> Ole # 718
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Does anyone know what activities are going on, and when, for the July
Rendezvous? The Delassus-St. Vrain's will be having a reunion at the same
time..
heck, we want to participate!
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<DIV>Les, I had one a few years ago. That one was made by EuroArms. A guy who knows these guns very well told me that it was about as close as you could get with a production gun. I could never get mine to shoot consistantly. Although ,I admit, I never put it on a bench to sight it in scientifically. I thought it was quite barrel heavy, and I'm a fairly large guy. I sold it for what I bought it for ($500 then) and had fun with it while I had it. It was a nicely made gun. For what it's worth, that's my harpers ferry exp.. hardtack</DIV>
In a message dated 5/23/01 1:42:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dbest@hydro.mb.ca writes:
> I don't know the make of this flintlock. It is 20-odd years old, made in
> Italy, and is marked with a capital "I" in a rectangle, an "AC" in a
> smaller rectangle, a small star in a circle with the letters "PN"
> underneath.
The marks you have are Investarm s.p.a. Fabbrica D'Armi, they make and sell
guns under their own name and for other such as Lyman, my Lyman .50 cal
Plains Pistol is theirs and came with their instruction manual.
Y.M.O.S.
C.T. Oakes
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<BR>dbest@hydro.mb.ca writes:
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<BR>Italy, and is marked with a capital "I" in a rectangle, an "AC" in a
<BR>smaller rectangle, a small star in a circle with the letters "PN"
I would like to try reenacting the fur trade era, or eastern longhunter era. Are there any activities in NC that I could check out? I live on the coast, so anything in that area would be great. Thanks for the help.
