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Subject: MtMan-List: Bent's Fort Activities in late July
Date: 05 Feb 2001 19:43:55 EST
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I understand that they are holding mountain man activities at the end of
July, but do not know they specifics. Is anybody on the list attending? We
are scheduling the St. Vrain reunion for the same weekend in July, and
ideally would like to integrate the two. Yes, we have been in touch with the
Fort :)
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">I understand that they are holding mountain man activities at the end of
<BR>July, but do not know they specifics. Is anybody on the list attending? We
<BR>are scheduling the St. Vrain reunion for the same weekend in July, and
<BR>ideally would like to integrate the two. Yes, we have been in touch with the
<BR>Fort :) </FONT></HTML>
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: smallpox innoculation history
Date: 05 Feb 2001 23:44:13 EST
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I don't think there were hypodermic needles until the next century. The
usual procedure was to scratch or poke the skin with a regular PIN coated
with cowpox virus "serum", essentially grafting the disease into the
individual.
The "serum" was obtained by poking a cowpox sore from an infected individual.
The patient, of course, would develop and unsightly "Pox" wherever they were
innoculated, but develop permanent immunity to the deadlier smallpox.
The procedure started in Turkey in the early 1700's, and was discussed in
letters by Lady Montagu, wife of the British Ambassador. She had her entire
family vaccinated. The procedure became popular in Europe once Edward Jenner
(UK) was able to produce the serum WITHIN cattle. Innoculation eventually
caught on in the United States in the early 1800's. Yep, the procedure was
STILL unsanitary, but heck, it worked!
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">I don't think there were hypodermic needles until the next century. The
<BR>usual procedure was to scratch or poke the skin with a regular PIN coated
<BR>with cowpox virus "serum", essentially grafting the disease into the
<BR>individual.
<BR>The "serum" was obtained by poking a cowpox sore from an infected individual.
<BR> The patient, of course, would develop and unsightly "Pox" wherever they were
<BR>innoculated, but develop permanent immunity to the deadlier smallpox.
<BR>
<BR> The procedure started in Turkey in the early 1700's, and was discussed in
<BR>letters by Lady Montagu, wife of the British Ambassador. She had her entire
<BR>family vaccinated. The procedure became popular in Europe once Edward Jenner
<BR>(UK) was able to produce the serum WITHIN cattle. Innoculation eventually
<BR>caught on in the United States in the early 1800's. Yep, the procedure was
<BR>STILL unsanitary, but heck, it worked! </FONT></HTML>
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> FYI. VBS is a visual basic script. This is executable code, meaning if you click on it, it's going to run. MicroSoft systems automatically know how to execute this kind of code, and you've just launched a hackers attack at your box. Unless one of your friends is a programmer, they probably wouldn't be sending you VBS, and even if they ARE programmers, they'll probably use something else. VBS is a preferred language for teenage hackers. It's simple, efficient, and runs on any MicroSoft machine.
> Any more, I have to be expecting something from one of my friends, or it HAS to be in a recognized format, and even then, I scan it. Anymore, that even includes pictures in bmp or jog format.
> I work for a software company, and the kind of crap that people are coming up with is pretty impressive from a technical point of view. From a personal point of view, these people ought to be drawn and quartered.
>
Be advised that VERY soon, IMHO, virus' will come in the form of HTLM
mail. It's just that no one has sent a virus out in this manner yet.
Many mailers don't have a provision to turn off HTML display of incoming
mail, that is PLAIN TEXT ONLY. And, once again, the attack will be
targeted for MickySoft systems.
Fred
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Mark-- the problem, if you will, the the Mumey book on Jim Baker is his lack
of documentation. Much is hearsay from "family" sources etc. He also
extensively lists the reference "the I. W. Brewster" manuscript. After years
of mystery, and searching, I have a copy of that manuscript. It too, lacks
sufficient documentation.
Leighton Baker, in his book about Jim Baker published in 1995, tried to
provide better sources and to correct any of the inaccuracies of the Mumey
version of Jim Bakers life. I have that as well. You may find it in the
bookstore of the Colorado History Museum in Denver.
Contact me directly and we can help.
Patrick J. Surrena
Jim Baker Party, The American Mountain Men, #1449
Colorado
emaiL: mtnman1449@aol.com
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Americana BT" LANG="0"><B>Mark-- the problem, if you will, the the Mumey book on Jim Baker is his lack
<BR>of documentation. Much is hearsay from "family" sources etc. He also
<BR>extensively lists the reference "the I. W. Brewster" manuscript. After years
<BR>of mystery, and searching, I have a copy of that manuscript. It too, lacks
<BR>sufficient documentation.
<BR>
<BR>Leighton Baker, in his book about Jim Baker published in 1995, tried to
<BR>provide better sources and to correct any of the inaccuracies of the Mumey
<BR>version of Jim Bakers life. I have that as well. You may find it in the
<BR>bookstore of the Colorado History Museum in Denver.
<BR>
<BR>Contact me directly and we can help. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#ff80c0" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Americana BT" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=3 FACE="Emerald Isle" LANG="0"></B>Patrick J. Surrena
<BR>Jim Baker Party, The American Mountain Men, #1449
<BR>Colorado
<BR>emaiL: mtnman1449@aol.com</FONT></HTML>
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