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hats-digest           Friday, April 28 2000           Volume 02 : Number 188




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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 00 11:34:56 +0100
From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) shirts

>I think, although this is only my own, personal, and very humble opinion,
>you should also consider wearing a pair of trousers with your shirt.
when i go out i always wear my 4 shirts at the same time...  this means
that i can wear them for 4 days before washing by alternating which one
is in the inside...

cool huh?




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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:46:44 -0500
From: "Angela Tooley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) who are all you people? ;)

Hi Hatters,
I'm Angie,  I just resubscribed to the list after a year-long hiatus.
I see you are still discussing the fan show that never happened.
Francis and Vince and I worked hard on that --sorry it didn't work
out, maybe someday......anyway, does anyone know of a website I can
visit that might include bios of current list-members? I think the
membership has changed somewhat since I was last on, and I would like
to know who is still here and who is new!  If there is no such
website, I wonder if you could reply to this message just to say "hi"
because I would like to meet you!  I already know that Claude and
Myke and "Moose" are still here, how about Laura and Alain and Simon
and Francis etc.?

Hope to hear from you!

Angie

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:37:19 -0600 (MDT)
From: Billy Bob The Moonshine Man <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) who are all you people? ;)

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Angela Tooley wrote:

>
> Hi Hatters,
> I'm Angie,  I just resubscribed to the list after a year-long hiatus.
> I see you are still discussing the fan show that never happened.
> Francis and Vince and I worked hard on that --sorry it didn't work
> out, maybe someday......anyway, does anyone know of a website I can
> visit that might include bios of current list-members? I think the
> membership has changed somewhat since I was last on, and I would like
> to know who is still here and who is new!  If there is no such
> website, I wonder if you could reply to this message just to say "hi"
> because I would like to meet you!  I already know that Claude and
> Myke and "Moose" are still here, how about Laura and Alain and Simon
> and Francis etc.?
>
hey, i'm still here too.  although i never actually really reply to much
of anything.  i dont' even remember the original discussion of that
concert, but i am sure i was on the list.  i know i was here when that
whole bootleg thing crashed and burned...my own personal website listed
below, but doesn't have much on it about anyone, except my own complaining
and stuff.  oh well..

http://www.nmt.edu/~flameboy


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I've heard it said that math is the universal language. I've also
heard people say music is the universal language. But my vote goes to
hardcore pornography. - Andrew Hicks, "A Fifth Year"

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:21:12 -0500
From: "Michael Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (hats) who are all you people? ;)

Good idea -- as someone new to the list (new enough to miss out on all of
the special cds & the aftermath), it's a good place to start and try to
liven up the list a bit.

Actually, most of my biography is on my web site.  Pop Goes the World has
been one of my favorite albums since it came out.  (I was 16 when it came
out in 1987)  As such, there are many meaningful songs are tied up on that
whole album -- it was one of the albums that was key as I was going through
that critical "growing up" stage.   I currently live in suburban
Minneapolis, Minnesota, where I'm a computer programmer.  MWH is very much a
studio band for me -- I never saw them live; nor really ever considered it,
for some reason.

Michael Lee
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD-Rs...

> I know that there are no "new" fan cd's being produced but what about
> cdr's for those who didn't manage to get the originals?

Stefan is in charge of all that now.

Myke


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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:00:05 -0600
From: "Stephen D. Sundstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) RE:  Who Are All You People

Hi Angela,

I joined the MWH Mailing list approximately a year and a half ago.  I heard
about it through a nice chap named Richard Holdman who was handling the MWH
Bootleg CD distribution, which caused quite a bit of controversy after
Stefan decided to threaten legal action if Richard continued distributing
these cds.

 I've been a MWH fan for as long as I can remember.  I saw MWH live in my
hometown of Salt Lake City, Utah when they were the opening band for
Icehouse on the Icehouse "Man Of Colours" tour.    MWH put on an awesome
live show, one that I will always remember.

I'm not sure what was supposed to have happened with the "show that didn't
happen" as I don't remember anything about that...so I probably joined the
list shortly after that particular incident.

I don't know why you were wanting info on the people who are on the list at
this time, but I've wondered the same thing myself.  Mabey somebody on the
list (I'd do it if no one else wants to) would like to gather data on the
people on the list and post it on the web somewhere, mabey starting a
website called "Men Without Hats Fan Club" or something like that.  I run a
web site for another of my favorite bands, The Boomtown Rats (located at
http://www.boomtownrats.com) and could easily spare enough room to have a
page set up for this purpose.  Mabey something that would list members by
geographical location, e-mail address, and possibly list some of the members
other hobbies.  I don't know, just an idea.

It's good to see ya back on the list.

See Ya,

Steve Sundstrom






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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:25:53 -0400
From: "Steve Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (hats) who are all you people? ;)

Steve Jackson here.

I've been on this list for I don't remember how long.  I definitely
remember the "Private Concert" discussions.  I remember when a bunch
of people road-tripped up to Canada to see Ivan in concert.  I
remember when Dr. Laura just went by Laura.  ;-)

No, I don't write much, but I enjoy all that goes on here.  Except the
flame wars.  But, then, who enjoys those, anyway?

Thankfully, there have been no flame wars recently.

I remember that someone on this list maintained a web site that had
people's information and pictures, but it was taken down so that it
could move to the "Official" Men Without Hats web site.  I just
checked the official site (http://www.mpgang.com/mwh.html), and
there's still no sign of the bio information.  But I wasn't expecting
it, either.

Whoever it was that used to maintain the bio page (if you're still on
the list), would you please delete my picture?  It's probably about 20
years old now, anyway!  :-)

Take care, everybody!  I'm looking forward to "reading you".

Steve Jackson
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:28:35 +0000
From: "Ian J. Harris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (hats) who are all you people? ;)

Hi All
 Quick intro - Im Ian, 28, live in Essex, England.  Loved Safety
Dance when it came out, and have just finished getting all the MWH
albums on CD.
 If you want to know what I look like....check out
www.facelink.com/oved
~ Ian


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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:21:05 -0400
From: "Ian Kidd" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (hats) who are all you people? ;)

Hi All
Quick intro - I'm Ian, 28, live in Atlanta, GA USA.  Loved Safety Dance
when it came out, and have just finished getting all the MWH albums on CD.
If you want to know what I look like....check out
 http://people.atl.mediaone.net/ikidd/
~ Ian

 P.S.  Inspired by Ian J. Harris email.  Thought it was creepy that we
both share the same age, first name, middle initial and taste in music!!!



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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:27:25 -0400
From: Heidi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) 12" Hats singles

I've been sorting thru my albums collecting a pile to take to a used
record/cd shop and have a two Hats 12" singles and one 7" I no longer
want. So is anyone looking for vinyl copies of the 12" of I Got The
Message (Special Extended Remix)/ Freeways (Euromix)/ Utterspace. Or
the 12" that has Living In China/ Modern Dancing/ Cocoricci (Le Tango
Des Voleurs). Or the 7" Living In China/Cocoricci (Le Tango Des Voleurs).
If anyone is interested in any of those drop me a note offlist and make
an offer. (figure postage is extra.) I'm not trying to get alot for
them but enough to make it worth selling this way. I'm in the US so
because of currency differences need to stick with selling to someone
also here. I'm only posting this to hats@ so please don't forward or
post anywhere else.

Yea, I know there's not a big demand for vinyl these days but I know
some of you collect anything Hats related. If possible I'd prefer to
sell them all to one person since it's easier but will split them up
if I need to.

=}{=

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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:35:52 -0600
From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Razormaid Remix of "I got the message"

This is old news but just a reminder that Razormaid Records is planing on
doing a remix of "I got the message" by MWH. They release a New CD every
Month and this remix should be out in a few months.

Take a look at
http://www.razormaid.com/html/classx/classxseries2.htm

The MWH track is under class x-18
Right now the current release is class x-16

- -Richard



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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:38:28 -0600
From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) RE: Razormaid Remix of "I got the message"

Correction - The MWH track is on class x-19

I will be getting this one for sure because it also has some other tracks
that are awesome including.

Ultravox
Devo
Peter Shilling
Altered Images (Great Band)

- -Richard

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To: '[e-mail]'
Subject: Razormaid Remix of "I got the message"


This is old news but just a reminder that Razormaid Records is planing on
doing a remix of "I got the message" by MWH. They release a New CD every
Month and this remix should be out in a few months.

Take a look at
http://www.razormaid.com/html/classx/classxseries2.htm

The MWH track is under class x-18
Right now the current release is class x-16

- -Richard



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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:10:35 PDT
From: "Alan Pendleton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) RE: Razormaid Remix of "I got the message"

>
>Peter Shilling

Was he the Major Tom coming home Fella ? That takes me back a bit .

>Altered Images (Great Band)

Are we talking about the same Altered Images ? The one fronted by squeaky
voiced , lousy actress Clare Grogan ? The same Clare Grogan who wasn't very
good in Red Dwarf, put in a dreadful appearence in Father Ted, and played an
unconvincing dectective in Eastenders ? (and turned down an offer to go out
with me, but thats another story, not that I'm bitter or anything)

I defy anyone to sit through an entire Altered Images album. They are Pants.
  Happy Birthday's a good tune though.

>
>-Richard
>
Alan


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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 06:59:18 PDT
From: "Alan Pendleton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) CD-Rs...

>From: Lord Hasenpfeffer <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (hats) CD-Rs...
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
> > I know that there are no "new" fan cd's being produced but what about
> > cdr's for those who didn't manage to get the originals?
>
>Stefan is in charge of all that now.
>
>Myke
>
Myke,

I wish you'd stop whinging, this must be the 8th unpleasant, Stefan
bickering email i've read from you in recent days. Stefan never threatened
to sue anyone. If you're going to sue anyone you send a nasty threatening
letter from a solicitor, you don't send a flippant email threatening to set
the FBI on them. Sense of humour failure on your part , me thinks.

The fact remains that Mr Holdman had 9 hours worth of MWH material readily
downloadable for free to anyone with internet access. Material that was made
by MWH and are entilted to be paid for, much as I thought the site was an
excellent resource you have to accept that it was illegal. I think you'll
find that MWH's don't have any objection to bootlegs as long as they are
done discreetly , which I gather that Stefan/Ivan were happy to condone,
after all they let the ROY/FOTE3 demo's become available to interested
parties. The gist of it was as I see it that we could continue to swap
bootlegs as long as it was between fans and done without shouting about it.

Let me tell you a story, once apon a time Paul McCartney ( He played bass in
the Beatles) told in an interview how he used to in the early sixties go to
concerts and tape them, and also how much he enjoyed doing it and the
pleasure he derived from listening to the tapes. Shortly afterwards an
English fella was caught and prosecuted for selling bootleg Paul McCartney
tapes. He tracked Paul McCartney down and questioned him on the injustice of
it all, how he Paul could freely admit to making bootlegs and at the same
time prosecute people for doing the same. Paul replied 'Its simple mate, you
got caught and I didn't'

Which I think sums up the whole bootleg debate really nicely. If you're
going to do it, do it descreetly and don't get caught. had the CD's been
kept within the list, none of this would have happened.

Also the list had 'died' way before Stefan made his guest appearence, I
believe it was when it was discovered that Ivan wasn't going to reform MWH
circa 1984 and deliver a wish list set, and instead intended to perform his
standard set at the time for the mailing list concert.

Anyway, spring is on its way, cheer up fella, no need to get pissed off
about it.

Alan

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