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Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:29:24 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) real music

>I'm glad to see he's still around. I just wish that he, and every other
>once good songwriter, would stop trying to fit in to todays music scene
>and do something good. When all these artists say that they believe in

In my opinion, I don't think Ivan is trying to be hip.  I don't know why,
but I just feel it (I don't know Ivan personally).  If he did, I think the
music would sound more like what is on the dance radio stations (the cheesy
euro crap) and be repetitive than the pop and hiphop on the CD.  For me, it
shows on the CD that he is trying some styles he likes.    I wonder if Ivan
is interested in remixing?  That brings to mind a question, if Ivan were to
personally remix some MWH tracks (not that they need to be, this is just a
fun question), I wonder how they would be?  Actually, I guess it has been
done already with his performance of "The Safety Dance" and "PGTW".

Just to put my 2 cents in, I agree with you too on the fact that 90s music
tends to be transparent.


>for all you UK residents - if you near Tomski's new single 14 Hours To
>Save The Earth on Radio 1, Kiss FM or similar stations - you're probably
>hearing my handywork!  The radio edit was done some time ago and
>(unfortunately) doesn't appear on the CD single - bummer!
>
>enjoy
>
>}:-)
>Mike

Maybe we can catch them on RealAudio if they broadcast :)

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:41:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: X <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) boots 6,7,8

Ivan performed tonght LIVE on CFNY 102.1fm in Toronto. Did anyone tape
it??? It was amazing! it was live from a club called Whiskey Saigon and he
did PGTW and Safety Dance...Im not sure but i think he also did 1972 and
open your eyes...did anyone tape this? The sound quality was amazing ! The
safety dance version was way different then how he performed it at NXNE...

Daniele- well?




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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:43:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Kooky Idiots Singing on Stage

> You no it's not april 1st anymore.  Are you joking????

Absolutely not.  I've been a fan of the "classic" incarnation of Kiss
since I was 12 years old (in 1978).  I own every official Kiss CD in
existence and quite a few boots to boot.  I hated Kiss without Ace,
Peter and makeup all throughout the 80s.  Even though I have all the
CDs from that period, I to this day cannot stand to listen to them.

> Kiss never were "incredible".

How dare you form such concrete opinions!  How do you sleep?!

> They were a gimmick (exactly as the Spice Girls).

You are just another one of those who are simply unable to see
*through* the makeup and costumes to find out and understand what it is
that's just so magic about them.  I've met many people like you in my
day.  There's no way I can change your mind about them so I won't even
try.

> I admit they were very appealing to youngsters with their superhero
  stance, and the Kiss army (now we have the Spice cadets).

When I met my metalhead wife in 1990, she had never really listened to
Kiss and would literally leave the room any time I ever tried to play
their music when she was around.  In 1995, a Kiss-emulation band,
Strutter, came to play the Cains in Tulsa (Yes, the same place MWH
played in 1988!).  I bought two tickets and told my wife she was going
with me whether she wanted to or not.  She did - and she's been a
bigger Kiss fan since that night than I ever had been at the height of
my own Kissmania in the late 70s and early 80s.  And all of this
happened to her in her early 20s.  It's not just appealing to kids.
I used to argue this point with the idiot adults when I was a kid but,
because I was a kid, I was unable to prove the point.  I'm 31 now and
I'm here to tell you that Kiss is still an incredible band.

> Music can't suffer from lack of make-up (please, just think about
  it).

Kiss suffered from a major identity crisis after they removed their
makeup and it took years for them to get another one with which they
could be successful.  In trying to find a new personal identity, Gene
went off doing movies and production work for other bands and such.  He
put Kiss on a back burner for a few years and as a result the music did
suffer.

> This is not old energy (Paul Stanley seems to be the only one able to
  stand up by himself)

Whatever.  You must be unaware of how physically heavy Gene's costume
really is.

> nor magic, it is marketing!

Brrrrrttt!  The fact is they've got a beyondo extremo fanbase that just
won't quit supporting them even after a full quarter of a century.  How
many seriously successful bands are there today who give credit to Kiss
for inspiring them to pick up a guitar and play it in the first place?
New Kids on the Block were a marketing gimmick and we see where they
are today.

Myke


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:18:36 -0600
From: Senz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Cover Art + Ivan video collection

I've finished Moonbeam and it's now up on the site:
http://www.nucleus.com/~senz/MWH/MWH.htm

Just a small warning, the site has grown a bit and now takes a few
seconds to download (it's fairly graphics intensive since that's what
the page is all about!)  So, thanks for your patience on that.

I'm going to try to tape Ivan's appearance on the TSN show, but my cable

has been unreliable lately so I hope someone out there will also try
taping it.  This would go great with Tom's copy of "Open Your Eyes" and
my
copy of "Superbadgirls". I'm still not convinced "1972" exists but if
someone has actually seen it or better yet even taped it, let us know!

Senz





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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 15:02:02 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) offtopic but I need help

Hello everyone,

I am sorry that this is offtopic, and I apologize if I already posted this a
while ago (I can't even remember if I did) but I need help fast.  I am
TRYING to learn Java but the examples in the books I am using don't work
(!).  The java newsgroups don't help at all and I am hoping that there is
someone here who programs in Java who can help me with a project I am trying
to make.  The books make it seem so easy yet nothing works out for me (I
can't even get checkboxes to work!).

If you can help, please send me an e-mail.

Thank you.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:36:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Woody Zenfell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) The Spell

On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Claude Gr=E9goire wrote:

> Please, let's not start throwing stones to quickly, Aaron has not heard "=
The
> Spell" yet. But tell me my friend, where have you read that most of us do=
n't
> like it???? I hope you are wrong (is he? please comments on this hatters!=
)

I don't think The Spell is anything to get excited about whatsoever
(except as a marker that says Ivan is back making music).  I think Forever
is the exceptional track, and it's _very_ good, but the album as a whole
is filled with songs that just don't interest me or "stick with" me a few
minutes later.  Open Your Eyes, Superbadgirls, The Spell, and occasionally
www and You are pleasant enough to listen to, but they're nothing really
special, and the remaining tracks don't even need mentioning.=20

The whole album has this sort of "flat" sound to it - for me comparing
Ivan to (earlier, especially) Men Without Hats is like comparing Pet Shop
Boys to Erasure: the former have very complex orchestrations, and
sometimes nice musical ideas, but they really lack the "spunk" or "life"=20
that make the latter so enjoyable to listen to.  It's like Ivan and PSB
are "too refined" or something; the kernel ideas get buried under layers
and layers of coating, until you're kept so far away from them that it's
really sterile.

Then again, I wasn't overly impressed with "Sideways", so, go ahead and
write me off as "unwilling to evolve" or something if you want.  (I think
the process from Folk of the 80's EP through PGTW was evolution, and there
was great music through that whole period.)

Take care,
Woody



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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 15:41:36 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Sideways cd FS

Hi,
   I have an extra copy of the Men Without Hats "Sideways" cd for sale. It
would be $15 US (which includes shipping within North America). If you are
interested please let me know.

Kirk


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:55:31 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan on CFNY

At 12:41 AM 4/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Ivan performed tonght LIVE on CFNY 102.1fm in Toronto. Did anyone tape
>it??? It was amazing! it was live from a club called Whiskey Saigon and he
>did PGTW and Safety Dance...Im not sure but i think he also did 1972 and
>open your eyes...did anyone tape this? The sound quality was amazing ! The
>safety dance version was way different then how he performed it at NXNE...
>
>Daniele- well?
>
>

CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! I MISSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:(  See what
happens when you don't listen to CFNY?

CFNY is an alternative music station.  I don't listen to it because I don't
like alternative music.  However, the fact that Ivan performed at Whiskey
Saigon (a club) on Sunday night is interesting. Sunday nights, CFNY
broadcasts from there and it's all retro 80s.  So according to our
discussion about Ivan possibly trying to prevent people from associating him
with MWH, this is a major contradiction! :D   I used to listen to their
broadcast from Whiskey Saigon but they always play the exact same songs
(sometimes almost in the same order!) so I grew tired of it.  I wish
yesterday was an exception :(

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:05:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Janet Lumb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) All the negativity!

I just spoke Colin D and he wants everyone on this list to know that Ivan
definately -did not- send any of his
fans any nasty E-mail messages.
Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
and new JP8000!).
I know 1st hand that he hasnt and wouldnt send anyone bad vibes like that by
any means.
While UFORIA his own label is in the process of getting a website (they will
be online in a week or so) we around Ivan can expressly guarantee that under
no circumstances would he or anyone associated with him
send anyone appreiative of his work an E-mail with anything but the highest
regards (as those fans of his that have met him will understand).
Cheers, Gary.
Ps, A lot of the new stuff we are programming does sound very HATS and that
may lead on or back to something else, (but this is up to the man himself).
pps Laura, can uu send me one of your new T-shirts (as you know we dont have
any!) legal reasons...



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:20:53 -0400
From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) All the negativity!

> I just spoke Colin D and he wants everyone on this list to know that Ivan
> definately -did not- send any of his
> fans any nasty E-mail messages.
> Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats
synths
> and new JP8000!).

It looks like we are going to have more of a Folk of the Eighties type MWH
album and not a sideways part II type album.

This should make many people very happy, except for sideways fans.

Tom
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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:41:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Thus sayeth the LORD

> If you are very disconnected from the world, then maybe you will have
  difficulties understanding why rap and old-style disco are very "in"
  today.

Ah!  I get it now.  I'm a hermit!

> Are you God?

No, just a LORD.

> Oh boy!  EVERYTHING in pop music owes its style and sound to
  something else!

There is a difference between being influenced by something and being a
carbon-copy of it.

> The goal of a musician is not to come up with never seen before
  tricks, it is to express himself through music.

But when you can do both, you really turn heads.

> I love it (even if I despise disco and rap).

I love some of it.  But why would you despise disco?  I think disco is
cool.  I loved it in the 70s and I love it today.

> So try to be more open minded.

With a list of favourites that includes Vivaldi, Bach, and Mozart;
Schoenberg, Berg and Webern; Syd Barrett, Pink Floyd and KISS; Men
Without Hats, Gary Numan and Yoko Ono; Debbie Gibson, Nine Inch Nails
and Hanson - I don't think I need to be more open minded.  Just
admitting that I like most of these gets me in enough trouble already
with a lot of people.  And a lot of people still haven't heard the
music and sounds that I personally like to create!  (And no, Eric and
Russ, I'm not referring to just my early Ymphony!s either!  :-) ).

Myke


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) The Spell

Woody,

I wholeheartedly agree.  From Fot80s to PGTW, there is clear evidence of
an evolution occurring in Ivan's musical abilities and development as an
artist.  However, after PGTW, there have only been shifts in style and
direction.  But I really cannot say that this is so bad.  I think Ivan
really went "over the top" with PGTW just as the Beatles did with "Sgt.
Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".  He even said in one of the interviews
on the video compilation that it was like his own "Sgt. Pepper...".
The Beatles had a hard time trying to top that album afterwards - and
whether "Abbey Road" did or did not is debatable.  I believe that this
played a large role in the group's ultimate demise.  I think Pink Floyd
has reached a similar pinnacle with the release of the "Pulse" concert
video in 1995.  I literally don't know how they or anyone else can do
any more on a stage than what they did during that particular Earls Court
appearance.  If they retired now I'd not mind it a bit.  "Pulse" on video
has left me completely fulfilled and satisfied at least on the Pink Floyd
level.  Now Ivan's a bit different.  He satisfied me musically with PGTW
but he's not produced a lot of other product in the nearly two decades that
he's been around to entertain us - but the CDs being produced by the fine
folks on this list are kindof helping me deal with that.  There is still
no officially released, professional quality video compilation available.
There are still no live shows from the PGTW, 21st Century, and Sideways
tours around to be heard.  There's only one professionally filmed concert
video to be seen - which is damn good, but still only representative of
a slice of the MWH/Ivan career.  I would love to see a MWH/Ivan career
documentary with vintage video from the RoY tour and before that even.

Where all that was leading I don't know, but... :-)

My biggest compliment for PGTW is that it's cohesive in both style
and concept from beginning to end.  My biggest complaint for The Spell
is that it's "all over the board".  I simply cannot shift my moods
as fast as The Spell shifts its, in order to enjoy it the way I do
PGTW or anything that came before.

Myke


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:47:45 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan on TSN (long again, sorry)

Hi everyone,

I haven't been able to record Ivan on CFNY but I do have him on TSN.  My
thoughts on the show, well, Ivan doesn't seem to be much of a talker! :)  I
have never seen this show before (I'm not a big sports fan so the only time
I watch TSN is during the World Cup <grin>) so I might not have a good
perception of it. I think it's a talk show where celebrities come on and
give their views on sports events of the week.  On today's show Ivan was on,
an actress I do not know, and a former Hamilton Wildcats football
player/wrestler.  He seemed to be the only one who was energetic ont he show
:)  I don't want to sound terrible but the topics were not very thought
provoking.  As for Ivan, we don't learn anything about him except that he is
for women going topless (law recently passed here in Toronto)--don't take
this out of context but I think he is for it as in equality (in case youa re
wonderign what that has to do with sports events, they were referring to the
16-yr old tennis player who posed very provacatively for Sports Illustrated).

They showed a clip of the "Superbadgirls" video.  I haven't seen the video
but I LIKE IT SO FAR!  I like how the picture moves right to left.  Hurts my
eyes but it seems to fit the song!! :)

Ivan looked different in this show than in the video where fans from this
list met Ivan in Montreal. On TSN, Ivan's face was rounder.  Camera tricks?! :)

At the end, they breifly mentioned Ivan's CD and single 1972.  I think there
is a mix-up, at first I thought Ivan said there was a cd single out but I
think he meant the latest track is "1972".  Funny how he didn't call it
"1972 (Slippin' Away)" :)

As for the news about Ivan's new material being made on his MWH synth--LOVE
IT!!!   I can't wait to hear what he creates from it!!!  So UFORIA and TOX
are two different entities?  I always wondered what it was.  Well, can
anyone shed some more light? :)

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:47:45 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan on TSN (long again, sorry)

Hi everyone,

I haven't been able to record Ivan on CFNY but I do have him on TSN.  My
thoughts on the show, well, Ivan doesn't seem to be much of a talker! :)  I
have never seen this show before (I'm not a big sports fan so the only time
I watch TSN is during the World Cup <grin>) so I might not have a good
perception of it. I think it's a talk show where celebrities come on and
give their views on sports events of the week.  On today's show Ivan was on,
an actress I do not know, and a former Hamilton Wildcats football
player/wrestler.  He seemed to be the only one who was energetic ont he show
:)  I don't want to sound terrible but the topics were not very thought
provoking.  As for Ivan, we don't learn anything about him except that he is
for women going topless (law recently passed here in Toronto)--don't take
this out of context but I think he is for it as in equality (in case youa re
wonderign what that has to do with sports events, they were referring to the
16-yr old tennis player who posed very provacatively for Sports Illustrated).

They showed a clip of the "Superbadgirls" video.  I haven't seen the video
but I LIKE IT SO FAR!  I like how the picture moves right to left.  Hurts my
eyes but it seems to fit the song!! :)

Ivan looked different in this show than in the video where fans from this
list met Ivan in Montreal. On TSN, Ivan's face was rounder.  Camera tricks?! :)

At the end, they breifly mentioned Ivan's CD and single 1972.  I think there
is a mix-up, at first I thought Ivan said there was a cd single out but I
think he meant the latest track is "1972".  Funny how he didn't call it
"1972 (Slippin' Away)" :)

As for the news about Ivan's new material being made on his MWH synth--LOVE
IT!!!   I can't wait to hear what he creates from it!!!  So UFORIA and TOX
are two different entities?  I always wondered what it was.  Well, can
anyone shed some more light? :)

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:59:06 -0700
From: "kathy beaupre" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) IS IT TO LATE?

OH DEAR..
is it too late to catch Ivan on TNN?
if that was even the channel?
=(
I seem down  on my luck lately.
if it is possible I am in Powell river B.C (near Vancouver)..what time would
it be on?

thanx
Michelle



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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:08:54 -0600
From: Senz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Cover Art + Ivan video collection.

I've finished Moonbeam and it's now up on the site:
http://www.nucleus.com/~senz/MWH/MWH.htm

Just a small warning, the site has grown a bit and now takes about 45
seconds to download (it's fairly graphics intensive since that's what
it's all about!)  So, thanks for your patience on that.

I'm going to try to tape Ivan's appearance on the TSN show, but my cable
has been unreliable lately so I hope someone out there will also be
taping it.  This will go great with Tom's "Open Your Eyes" video and my
"Superbadgirls" video. I'm still not convinced "1972" exists but if
someone has actually seen it or better yet even taped it, let us know!

Senz





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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:02:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Janet Lumb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: All the negativity!

I just spoke Colin D and he wants everyone on this list to know that Ivan
definately -did not- send any of his
fans any nasty E-mail messages.
Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
and new JP8000!).
I know 1st hand that he hasnt and wouldnt send anyone bad vibes like that by
any means.
While UFORIA his own label is in the process of getting a website (they will
be online in a week or so) we around Ivan can expressly guarantee that under
no circumstances would he or anyone associated with him
send anyone appreiative of his work an E-mail with anything but the highest
regards (as those fans of his that have met him will understand).
Cheers, Gary.
Ps, A lot of the new stuff we are programming does sound very HATS and that
may lead on or back to something else, (but this is up to the man himself).
pps Laura, can uu send me one of your new T-shirts (as you know we dont have
any!) legal reasons...



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:02:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Janet Lumb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: All the negativity!

I just spoke Colin D and he wants everyone on this list to know that Ivan
definately -did not- send any of his
fans any nasty E-mail messages.
Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
and new JP8000!).
I know 1st hand that he hasnt and wouldnt send anyone bad vibes like that by
any means.
While UFORIA his own label is in the process of getting a website (they will
be online in a week or so) we around Ivan can expressly guarantee that under
no circumstances would he or anyone associated with him
send anyone appreiative of his work an E-mail with anything but the highest
regards (as those fans of his that have met him will understand).
Cheers, Gary.
Ps, A lot of the new stuff we are programming does sound very HATS and that
may lead on or back to something else, (but this is up to the man himself).
pps Laura, can uu send me one of your new T-shirts (as you know we dont have
any!) legal reasons...



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:02:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Janet Lumb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: All the negativity!

I just spoke Colin D and he wants everyone on this list to know that Ivan
definately -did not- send any of his
fans any nasty E-mail messages.
Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
and new JP8000!).
I know 1st hand that he hasnt and wouldnt send anyone bad vibes like that by
any means.
While UFORIA his own label is in the process of getting a website (they will
be online in a week or so) we around Ivan can expressly guarantee that under
no circumstances would he or anyone associated with him
send anyone appreiative of his work an E-mail with anything but the highest
regards (as those fans of his that have met him will understand).
Cheers, Gary.
Ps, A lot of the new stuff we are programming does sound very HATS and that
may lead on or back to something else, (but this is up to the man himself).
pps Laura, can uu send me one of your new T-shirts (as you know we dont have
any!) legal reasons...



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:54:50 EDT
From: Aerechui <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) real music

i have felt for years that he is not trying to be hip.
it is just not his style. nor do i think he cares all that much about the
money
 happy to see someone else sees this.

he does whatever he feels like doing.

if he released a speed metal or classical or hip hop or jazz album, whatever,
i would buy it and i know i would like it.

maybe he will feel like doing another mwh album. who knows?  i'll bet ivan
doesn't.....

aerechui


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 19:15:13 -0600
From: Senz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan on TSN

You're right Daniele, Ivan is not a talker, he is more of a thinker and my
impression of him on the show was basically that he was not interested in the idle
chit chat that was for the first 5 minutes or so.  (Also with the boisterous
personality of that pro-wrestler no one could hardly get a word in edgewise
anyway!)  The purpose of "Off The Record" is not sports events of the week but more
like social issues concerning sports. I've seen the show a few times now and they
have a wide range of guests like Pierre Burton and the lead singer of Pursuit of
Happiness.  The comment he made about topless women was to point out that people
seem overly ashamed of their bodies and perhaps that the topic of conversation was
a little silly or trite.  I also liked the comment he made about the goalies
fighting and how it was just their way of male bonding!  (I had to laugh).  At the
end they were discussing sexual aspects in sports and at the end you can just
barely hear him say something about the fact that all sports involve sexual
connotations because most of the time it involves putting "things into holes"!!!
Again, I had to laugh.  Despite Ivan having to put up with some pretty trivial
topics, he seemed to have a lot of fun and was laughing quite a bit. After hearing
some of "Superbadgirls", the actress was genuinely impressed and gave Ivan several
compliments.

How's your copy of this show Daniele, mine is fairly good but "could be better".

I also got good news today regarding Ivan.  When Ivan mentioned "1972" as a single
I thought I take a stroll down the block to HMV and see if they could at least
order the singles for me.  They couldn't.  Then the guy there says "btw, did you
know Ivan is playing at the Republik on April 17?"  The Republik is a nightclub for
alternative bands some four blocks from my place!  Woohoo! (I say)

Senz



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:13:46 EDT
From: ADTooley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Private Show

Has everyone e-mailed Francis to tell him whether or not you would be
interested in
attending a private Ivan (not MWH) show in Montreal?  If not please do.  If
this show can go on, it would be a wonderful thing.  But the feedback I have
been getting is that most people are not willing to travel far to see a show
that does not mainly feature the music of MWH.  Whatever your feelings, let
Francis know.

Angie


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 21:20:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Singles

    Does anybody know if any of these singles are still available:

1. The Spell
2. Superbadgirls
3. 1972

Collin






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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:04:14 EDT
From: BDay0000 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Men Without Excuses

In a message dated 98-04-06 18:21:05 EDT, you write:

<< Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
 and new JP8000!). >>

And he won't do our show for what reason again, please?????      =[


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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:04:14 EDT
From: BDay0000 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Men Without Excuses

In a message dated 98-04-06 18:21:05 EDT, you write:

<< Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
 and new JP8000!). >>

And he won't do our show for what reason again, please?????      =[


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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:03:29 -0600
From: Senz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan in Calgary...confirmed!

Without a doubt, April 17, in Calgary Alberta at the Republik.  (8:30pm.)

The theme of the week at the Republic is "Retro 80's" and he is being billed as "Ivan:
Ex-singer of Men Without Hats".  So much for leaving the past behind!  Can't wait to
say hi to him again!

Senz



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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:04:14 EDT
From: BDay0000 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Men Without Excuses

In a message dated 98-04-06 18:21:05 EDT, you write:

<< Ivan is busy in the studio recording new material (with the old hats synths
 and new JP8000!). >>

And he won't do our show for what reason again, please?????      =[


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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 00:46:28 -0400
From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) It is not too late!

>OH DEAR..
>is it too late to catch Ivan on TNN?
>if that was even the channel?
>=(
>I seem down  on my luck lately.
>if it is possible I am in Powell river B.C (near Vancouver)..what time would
>it be on?

I hope I am not too late, but the show repeats at 3:00 am tonight (Monday)
and the following afternoon (Tuesday) at 12:00 on TSN (not TNN, Ivan doesn't
sing country music <grin>).

Also, I have no idea why my long message was posted to the list twice.  I
apologize for this.

I will reply to Senz' e-mail....
>
>You're right Daniele, Ivan is not a talker, he is more of a thinker and my
>impression of him on the show was basically that he was not interested in
the >idle chit chat that was for the first 5 minutes or so.  (Also with the

Boy was that ever noticeable!! :)  The first two topics basically answered
themselves.  I guess I was right in thinking that Ivan really did have a
look on his face that seemed to say "What am I doing here?"  :)

>How's your copy of this show Daniele, mine is fairly good but "could be
>better".

Mine is good in a vhs sort of way :)  It's clear.

>I also got good news today regarding Ivan.  When Ivan mentioned "1972" as a
single
>I thought I take a stroll down the block to HMV and see if they could at least
>order the singles for me.  They couldn't.  Then the guy there says "btw, did
Does that mean there is one?


>know Ivan is playing at the Republik on April 17?"  The Republik is a
nightclub

In which city do you live? :)

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