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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:45:34 -0800
From: "Eric W. Soderblom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Montreal (surprise)

Hey-
Does anyone know the approx. time from NYC to Montreal?  Via car.
- -Eric


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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:51:21 +0000
From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Montreal (surprise)

Hi Eric!

> Does anyone know the approx. time from NYC to Montreal?  Via car.

I think it was about 5 1/2 hours.

A mere drop in the bucket, relatively speaking!  ;-)

:-) Laura


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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:18:51 EST
From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) The Show

hey there!

as a fellow cali-head, i can safely say that airfare for us is probably going
to be $650-750 (maybe more by the time of this writing:/)...which is why i'm
antsy for a date, as the closer we book, the more it shall cost....this is not
a rip on YOU, Francis; ) i know you are doing all you can:)

i'll keep my eyes peeled, nonetheless:)

ttyl,
Charlotte


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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:40:27 -0500
From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Montreal (surprise)

> Hey-
> Does anyone know the approx. time from NYC to Montreal?  Via car.
> -Eric
Dude,
Listen to Freeways.  That song is about driving from Montreal to New York
in I-87.   IT is 6:00, It is 11:00.

Its a 5 hour drive exactly.

Tom
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:18:56 EST
From: JDivito334 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Private show --- DATE

Hey!

The date that came in my ming after reading all your messages was the last
Saturday of June,   means 27th.

If Ivan is not available, it could be the week after.


We don't talk about the deposit now, we don't talk about booking your
vacation, we just talk about getting this show started properly with our
requests.

As soon as I have a confirmation of our requests, I'll write you a public
message.

Ciao

Francis


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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:43:15 -0500 (EST)
From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan Duran Tapes

Tom,

I will have to go back thru my email and find my source.
More on that later.

I was told though, that the Ivan tape didn't sound as good as the
Duran tape for some reason.  If I recall correctly, you said in your
original post about this that the Duran tape didn't sound as good as
the Ivan tape.

I'm still not certain if we're talking about two pairs of tapes or
the same one.

Myke


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:35:02 -0500
From: Charles Farnum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) booking trips(shameless promotion)

    this may somewhat shameless promotion and probably against list
rules but since some of you are going to need to fly to montreal and all
of you might not have a travel agent, and my mother just happens to be
one....

    Call her at farnum and christ(different from jesus) at
18003662048 between 9am and 5pm eastern time they will be glad to have
your business and we'll be keeping it all in the family.

Thanks
Whit




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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:04:22 +0000
From: "Trena Brantley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Booking Trips

Uh OH . . .

> If people do want to split the driving, though, by the time June
> rolls around, I may have forgotten the horrors of driving through
> Washington DC at one o'clock in the morning and might be convinced to
> once again gas up the Menwithouthats Party Van (a Mazda MPV, for
> those of you who missed the joke last year).  And this area actually
> is a pretty good mustering point for NC, TN, SC, and GA.  Oh, god, I
> think I am talking myself into doing this again.  Trena, stop me!!!!!

OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD...
Somebody quick! hand me a stick to poke her with . . . a bat to hit
her over the head . . . a feather to tickle her silly . . . a  . . .
oh, heck, I don't know.  I guess that 18 hour non-stop trek back home
wasn't too bad.  After all, Laura had enough energy after spending so
much time with Ivan and co. that she could have powered the world's
nuclear plants.  Hey, Laura, YOU could be our next natural resource!
A dose of Ivan has no risidual effects on the environment.  Cool!
Now if I can just patent it before June . . .   mmmh.  (mind wanders
off....   Mmmmh donuts...: )

Trena, aka the mad scientist
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:36:58 +0100
From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) shameless promotion - best way to do it!!

>    this may somewhat shameless promotion and probably against list
>rules but since some of you are going to need to fly to montreal and all
>of you might not have a travel agent, and my mother just happens to be
>one....
>
>    Call her at farnum and christ(different from jesus) at
>18003662048 between 9am and 5pm eastern time they will be glad to have
>your business and we'll be keeping it all in the family.
>
>Thanks
>Whit
Can she deal with aliens ie ppl from England?

}:-)
Mike



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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:37:01 +0100
From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) The Show

>hey there!
>
>as a fellow cali-head, i can safely say that airfare for us is probably going
>to be $650-750 (maybe more by the time of this writing:/)...which is why i'm
>antsy for a date, as the closer we book, the more it shall cost....this is
>not
>a rip on YOU, Francis; ) i know you are doing all you can:)
>
>i'll keep my eyes peeled, nonetheless:)
>
>ttyl,
>Charlotte
 so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US -
excellent (for me) and bad news (for you)...

}:-)
Mike



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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:12:52 EST
From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) The Show

In a message dated 98-03-12 15:02:09 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>  so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US -
>  excellent (for me) and bad news (for you)...
>
>  }:-)
>  Mike
>
:P~

i'm working on it, i'm working on it!
sheesh!
;)
- -C-


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:40:36 +0000
From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) cheap airfare?

Hi Hatters!

Mike da Moose said
> >  so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US -

then Charlotte said
> i'm working on it, i'm working on it!

I have an idea - let's all go to Mikey's for a few days, then fly to
Montreal on those low airfares out of Gatwick.  ;-)

Mikey, you and I could go to the Spanish Galleon for lunch and then
eat feast bars all night while watching SP movies!  Sound like fun?
;-)

L8R, everybody!


:-) Laura


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:08:42 EST
From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) cheap airfare?

In a message dated 98-03-12 15:46:33 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Hi Hatters!
>
>  Mike da Moose said
>  > >  so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US
- -
>
>
>  then Charlotte said
>  > i'm working on it, i'm working on it!
>
>  I have an idea - let's all go to Mikey's for a few days, then fly to
>  Montreal on those low airfares out of Gatwick.  ;-)
>
>  Mikey, you and I could go to the Spanish Galleon for lunch and then
>  eat feast bars all night while watching SP movies!  Sound like fun?
>  ;-)
>
>  L8R, everybody!
>
>
>  :-) Laura
>
heehee...if i'm flying all the way to london...it'll take wild horses to pull
me away...even Ivan would be a tough sell, hon;)

welp, so far the best quote i've got for a non-stop is an air canada flight
for the dates i want (june 25 to july 19) for about $641....i really need BIG
TIME tips on places to stay in Montreal...i've been instructed to avoid the
Village (whatever THAT is) like the plague...i know that there are plenty of
well-seasoned Montrealers here, and any info would be dearly appreciated:)

my real goal is to find a decent BnB in downtown, where i do not have to pay
more than $75(CAN) (which i think is about $50-ish in US $$) per night, as i
am looking at a shade over a 3-week stay:) (this was originally going to be
two weeks in Montreal, and one week in Toronto, but will do Toronto next year)
but if worse comes to worse, i might be persuaded to trim it down to a 2-week
stay....it all depends on what i can find

help me out here, hatters!

thanks,
Charlotte


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:16:00 EST
From: ADTooley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Meeting recollections

In a message dated 98-03-10 19:24:48 EST, Vince writes:

<< *As Angie has already alluded to, Dave Byrne did not like the idea of an
 opening act.  He said it was too risky for Ivan to have to follow a
 'potentially amateurish opening'.  Of all the ideas Francis gave him, he
 was the most adamant about this one.  Sorry folks.
  >>

This is understandable. However, just to show you I would never have allowed a
potentially amateurish opening to even be considered for this show, check out
my brother's band's website:

          www.watchtowerent.com/winefield

This will give you an idea of what they are doing lately in the world of
independent label recording and touring.  AND, the people who take care of his
website actually update it when necessary.
When you see the picture of the two faces, my brother is the one on the left,
just so you know.
Angie


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:12:32 -0600
From: "Abraham, Howard E." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) carpool

Taxes are hitting hard this year, so it looks like airfare to Montreal
is out of my reach.  It's about a 21-hour drive from Minnesota to
Montreal.  Is there anyone in Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania,
or New York that would be interested in carpooling?  My wife and I have
a Sunbird, so it's not exactly spacious, but we could change cars if
yours is larger.

- --Howard


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:11:35 -0800
From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan at Junos?

Hi,

I know I asked before, but.. does anyone know if Ivan will be attending
the Juno Awards in Vancouver?

Believe it or not, there's no mention of it on the Tox website and (go
figure) email to that site goes unanswered..

Jim
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:57:04 EST
From: Aerechui <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) tox website?

has anyone considered the possibility that there is some sort of technical
problem on the tox end of the deal that somehow prevents them from receiving
mail?
  it would explain why no one ever hears anything from it.....


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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:04:55 EST
From: ADTooley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) show

I have a question that will be valid once this show is finally confirmed:

Could we somehow arrange a web simulcast for those Hatters who won't be able
to make it?

Angie


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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:18:41 -0500
From: "Claude GrΘgoire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan at Junos?

James Davis a =E9crit:

> I know I asked before, but.. does anyone know if Ivan will be attending
> the Juno Awards in Vancouver?

I think he will be attending... (I'll tape the show anyway)

> Believe it or not, there's no mention of it on the Tox website and (go
> figure) email to that site goes unanswered..

I find it very hard to beleive. Have you tried all the email address, The=
re
are 8 of them I beleive...

perplex Claude


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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:25:05 -0500
From: "Claude GrΘgoire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) tox website?

Aerechui a =E9crit:
>=20
> has anyone considered the possibility that there is some sort of techni=
cal
> problem on the tox end of the deal that somehow prevents them from rece=
iving
> mail?
>   it would explain why no one ever hears anything from it.....

All jokes aside (I know, look who's talking)

I think TOX is lacking the human resources neccessary to properly maintai=
n a
web site and manage e-mail...

Take care

Claude


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:47:24 -0800
From: "Gregory T. Samson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Private show --- DATE

At 17:18 -0800 03/11/98, JDivito334 wrote:

>We don't talk about the deposit now, we don't talk about booking your
>vacation, we just talk about getting this show started properly with our
>requests.
>
>As soon as I have a confirmation of our requests, I'll write you a public
>message.

Makes perfect sense to me, Francis.  Once we have a confirmation that
things will happen, things like dates, booking flights, etc. become much
more relevant.

Keep on with your good works :)

- --
Gregory T. Samson, MD - Dr. Evil Microwizard (gtsamson[at]bigfoot.com)
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:05:18 EST
From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) tox website?

In a message dated 98-03-12 23:59:18 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>
>  has anyone considered the possibility that there is some sort of technical
>  problem on the tox end of the deal that somehow prevents them from
receiving
>  mail?
>    it would explain why no one ever hears anything from it.....
>
gee..wouldn't one think that they would've caught on by NOW??!!??!!

;)


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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 18:53:22 +0100
From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) cheap airfare?

>Hi Hatters!
>
>Mike da Moose said
>> >  so its cheaper to fly from London to Montreal than from within the US -
>
>then Charlotte said
>> i'm working on it, i'm working on it!
>
>I have an idea - let's all go to Mikey's for a few days, then fly to
>Montreal on those low airfares out of Gatwick.  ;-)
>
>Mikey, you and I could go to the Spanish Galleon for lunch and then
>eat feast bars all night while watching SP movies!  Sound like fun?
>;-)
>
>L8R, everybody!
>
>
>:-) Laura
I'm game...

}:-)
Mike



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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:28:17 -0500
From: "Alain Robillard-Bastien" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement

I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot of
MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full
orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc.  Am I in the twillight
zone???

Al.


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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:40:35 EST
From: JDivito334 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan's show --- UPDATE

Hey gang.

NO NEWS, GOOD NEWS, that's what I have to say.

If Ivan didn't want our request, the answer would be NO immediately.  If it
takes time, it's a good sign!

Ciao

Francis


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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:57:49 EST
From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement

In a message dated 98-03-14 11:30:52 EST, you write:

>
>
>  I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot
of
>  MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full
>  orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc.  Am I in the twillight
>  zone???
>
>  Al.
>
Al,

 I've been thinking that for ages ;)

Charlotte


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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:59:24 EST
From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Full orchestral arrangement

In a message dated 98-03-14 11:30:52 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>
>  I was listening to the PGTW album this morning, when I noticed that a lot
of
>  MWH songs could sound really good -and VERY powerful- when played by a full
>  orchestra, with real strings, brass section, etc.  Am I in the twillight
>  zone???
>
>  Al.
>
Al,

I've been thinking that for AGES!

*Besides, it worked for Split Enz, didn't it? ;)*

ttyl,

Charlotte


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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:13:15 -0800
From: "Kajjia Gorian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) VH1

VH1 is doing an "8 days of Eighties" week this week.  They have a series on
that station called "Pop Up Video" in which little captions pop up at
certain points of the video with little quips or tidbits of information.  I
caught on tape the Safety DAnce video mnus the first 2 seconds or so.  I
think it woudl make a nice addition to a new video collection, so someone in
the US with a better VCR than I should tape it if it happens to repeat,
which I am sure it will.  Prolly tonight around 5ish I think it's gonna
repeat.
Things I learned from watching this show:
There's a power line in the backround of the video
Ivan was born in Urbana, IL.
Ivan said the name of the band "Just popped into his head"
Safety Dance is NOT a reference to safe sex
The band broke up because it "got greedy"
The video was shot in rural England
The band was in NYC rehearsing for the ROY tour when the video was shot.

Well, that's all I have to say or now.  If anyone with a spiffy VCR can, GET
IT ON TAPE!  I am sure the rest of the list would like to see it.

Aaron Gitlin
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