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hats Digest               Friday, 27 December 1996      Volume 02 : Number 011

In this issue:

    (hats) Thanks guys!!!
    (hats) MWH CDs
    (hats) bootleg CD - me too
    (hats) CDs
    (hats) more CD praising...
    (hats) Dr Bruce Murphy?
    Re: (hats) more CD praising...
    (hats) Jaw on the floor
    (hats) David Brady's Comments
    (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer
    Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer
    [none]
    (hats) Re:
    (hats) Re: Videotape # assignments
    Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer
    (hats) Hey Men!
    (hats) CDs.....
    (hats) Antarctica (1980)
    (hats) I wish you a ....
    (hats) CDs
    (hats) Antarctica

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From: [e-mail] (Ian Ingham)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:36:24 -0500
Subject: (hats) Thanks guys!!!

Just wanted to toss in my thanks also to both Tom and J.R. for the
fine, dedicated work they have put in to help enrich the Hats legacy
among the fans!

ian


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From: FRANCOIS BLAWAT <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:52:34 -0600
Subject: (hats) MWH CDs

Hi all!

   Any word on more CDs? I've missed both chances on getting the list
because I receive my E-Mails later than everyone else. I'm hoping
someone will be offering CDs again.

Thanks,

Francois


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From: "Gregory T. Samson" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:41:38 -0800
Subject: (hats) bootleg CD - me too

is anyone re-pressing the bootleg 3CD set in the US...?

i think i NEED to have these.  thanks!

- --
Gregory T. Samson, MD - Dr. Evil Microwizard
"this isn't music.  this is just noise!"



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:53:53 -0500
Subject: (hats) CDs

Hey!!!!

Are the CDs everyone is raving about still available?  I'm getting mixed
messages.
I've finally gotten ahead in my bills and xmas shopping and am ready to turn
loose of twenty seven bucks.  Somebody please tell me!!!!!!    =]

Brad Day

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:50:43 -0600 (CST)
Subject: (hats) more CD praising...

The CDs are wonderful!!!  I can't stop listening to them, even to work on my
research paper!  But I have a question:  was "Freeways" originally intended for
Folk III, like "Editions of You"?  It's such a great song!  If those two songs
would have been on Folk III, that album would have done much better...

Listening to "ROY Live",

Jim

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:41:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Dr Bruce Murphy?

        Does anyone know who Dr Bruce Murphy is?  I need to get in contact
with him.  Supposedly he has a MWH chat line or something.  If anyone can
help i'd appreciate it.

I'm also interested in those CD's everyones so hype about.  If you burn
anymore let me know.

Thanks

Bugg

"If all else fails, use the open eye."

- - Chonky Orkin Boggles


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From: "David Brady" <[e-mail]>
Date: 20 Dec 96 09:47:58 -0800
Subject: Re: (hats) more CD praising...

>The CDs are wonderful!!!

Shut up already!!!! :)  I'm a digest reader (or was) and imagine my
happiness when I saw the first few subjects pop up:

>hats Digest               Sunday, 8 December 1996      Volume 02 : Number
>009
>
>In this issue:
>
>        (hats) Men Without Hats Day
>        (hats) MWH on CD...read me!
>        (hats) CD update

I quickly page through the digest.... of course the first message is
ironic:

>From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:27:40 -0700 (MST)
>Subject: (hats) Men Without Hats Day
>
>> Note to Lazlo:  Regardless of whether or not the *size* of the digest is
>> cumbersome or not, the fact that I receive it only about once a week is
>cause
>> for some frustration.  It's hard to keep up a thread under such
>> circumstances.  Couldn't you please return it to a daily issue?
>
>I'm afraid the only way to do that is broken on xmission right now.  Maybe
>when they upgrade to majordomo 1.94 I'll be able to set things up that
way.
>

The next message has me WAY excited:

>From: Tempe Video <[e-mail]>
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 13:33:08 -0400
>Subject: (hats) MWH on CD...read me!
>
>Greetings, fellow Hatters! Apologies up front for the long post, but =
>I think you'll like it...

Then...

>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 20:13:02 -0400
>Subject: (hats) CD update
>
>Hello all...
>
>Well, in the space of a few short hours we're up to 24 sets of CDs
>already. So, if you want them, cast your e-mails today.

Then...

>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 23:28:18 -0400
>Subject: (hats) CD Update, Vol. 2
>
>We're up to 34 of the aforementioned 3-CD set as of this writing. I'm
>going to start burning CDs tomorrow morning...even with a quad-speed
>burner this is going to take awhile! But, fear not...I'll get to everyone
>as the orders come in.

Then...

>Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 16:53:46 -0400
>Subject: (hats) 3 CDs left to go...
>
>We're up to 47 sets of the 3 CDs at this writing. So, only three more
>slots left to fill.

And sadly..

>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 16:56:44 -0400
>Subject: (hats) 50 CDs...
>
>We've reached the magic number...50 sets of CDs have been "ordered". No
>promises after that, so please hold off sending me any more orders until
>I finish up with these...

Note the date that the digest actually was sent and you'll see why a MWH
fan might be frustrated.

Still, I'm hoping someone will continue on with the project and I'm sure
I'll eventually see my own copy of the set.

Much thanks to J.R. for at least bringing it one step closer!

- --
David Brady
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Stroud)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:59:49 -0800
Subject: (hats) Jaw on the floor

After a crappy day at work yesterday, I returned home in a SEVERE funk.
But when I opened my mailbox, all my grey clouds disappeared, for there
were my MWH CDs!

I have been wanting to hear the tracks on "freeways" for years now... and
there they were, coming out of my speakers. I love tracing the history
of bands that I like (no pun intended), and listening to the sparse
arrangements on "Modern(e) Dancing" and "Utter Space" gave me a deeper
appreciation for the music that appeared on "Rhythm Of Youth".

The live concert discs are awesome... it's interesting to see that they
were performing some material live *years* before it saw official release
("Jenny Wore Black" in '85!).

J.R.... you deserve a medal for this. Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Between
these CDs and the "Young Ones" tapes I just ordered, I have given myself
the best Christmas gifts of all...

We can dance if we want to!

Don2
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:24:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) David Brady's Comments

David Brady summed up exactly what my experience was.  Majorly disappointed
to have missed out, but glad that such initiative was taken to gather
this material together.

I have learned the hard way that it is much better to not be a digest
subscriber.

Peace and Happy Holidays,

John Fracchia

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From: Rafael Tarud <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:48:28 -0400
Subject: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer

Hello Everyone: I am new on this list and I am really happy I joined it. I
have been a fan of MWH ever since the first time I heard "The Safety
Dance". Here in Chile MWH is only known for Safety Dance, I Like and Pop
Goes the World.

The funny thing is that soccer is THE main sport, and some people really
go grazy for it, and one of the main anthems sung at Stadiums are with the
melody of Pop Goes the World (of course the words are different and in
Spanish), but no one knows where it comes from. This same thing can be
observed in Argentina, where soccer fans are also very energetic.

Well, I wonder if this has happened someplace else..maybe the melody of
Pop Goes the World is sticky, or leads to other inspirations....


Greetings to All, and Merry Christmas

Rafael Tarud Castano
Rafael_Tarudmacland.cl

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From: Bruce Murphy <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:38:32 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer

> Rafael Tarud wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone: I am new on this list and I am really happy I joined it. I
> have been a fan of MWH ever since the first time I heard "The Safety
> Dance". Here in Chile MWH is only known for Safety Dance, I Like and Pop
> Goes the World.
>
> The funny thing is that soccer is THE main sport, and some people really
> go grazy for it, and one of the main anthems sung at Stadiums are with the
> melody of Pop Goes the World (of course the words are different and in
> Spanish), but no one knows where it comes from. This same thing can be
>> observed in Argentina, where soccer fans are also very energetic.
>>
 > Well, I wonder if this has happened someplace else..maybe the melody
of
 > Pop Goes the World is sticky, or leads to other inspirations....
 >
 > Greetings to All, and Merry Christmas
 >
 > Rafael Tarud Castano
 > Rafael_Tarudmacland.cl
 >
 Wow, the world IS a funny place! What ARE the words to Pop Goes the
 World in Spanish? I'll send them off to Ivan... I'm sure he'll be
 surprised.

 --
 Dr. Bruce Murphy
 Ottawa, Canada
 Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
 http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn

- --
Dr. Bruce Murphy
Ottawa, Canada
Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn

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From: [e-mail] (Wolf/Tod)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:57:45 -0500
Subject: [none]

hey bruce,,, i miss the stunt chimps...... maybe a reunion show of sorts
??!! ( the band im  in would have loved to have played with you !!)

PS... i still have that Canadaian Musician Article... it was Very inspiring.
Thank You

wolf
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From: Bruce Murphy <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 10:39:32 +0000
Subject: (hats) Re:

Wolf/Tod wrote:
>
> hey bruce,,, i miss the stunt chimps...... maybe a reunion show of sorts
> ??!! ( the band im  in would have loved to have played with you !!)
>
> PS... i still have that Canadaian Musician Article... it was Very inspiring.
> Thank You
>
> wolf
> [e-mail]

Yikes! A "Stunt Chimps for Burgess Meredith" fan! This was a vaguely
industrial band that I did after the PGTW tour. Very serious and
menacing,  but as we found the whole industrial scene a little silly we
spent most of our time howling with laughter at our own songs. Kind of
became local heroes in Toronto for a while, but no one else ever heard
of us. (Got my first royalty cheque for a song called "Claves" in this
band... it was $1.37)
- --
Dr. Bruce Murphy
Ottawa, Canada
Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
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From: "Searle" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:31:42 -0700
Subject: (hats) Re: Videotape # assignments

Dear Thomas,

Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you.  I got your tape a while
back, but I just started a new job, and have been adjusting to that in the
last little while.

Last weekend, a similarly rapid Hats fan and myself sat down and watched
the video from start to finish.  You couldn't wipe the grins off our faces
with 30 grit sandpaper.  WOW!  You have done us all a great favour with
your obvious labour of love.

We particularly enjoyed the "Freeways" concert footage.  It exhibited an
energy (and enthusiasm from Ivan) that seemed to be sadly missing from the
live "Sideways" tour we saw here in Edmonton.  On the funnier side of
things, we were bemused by the obvious lip-synching that was occurring
during the Top of the Pops and Solid Gold segments.  Actually, "Jenny" was
even funnier as a guitar player, since her hands never once moved from the
lock she had on the frets.

Great accomplishment.  Between you, Carl at Oglio, and J.R. Bookwalter, I
think I may finally be able to end my quest for the old MWOH material.

Thanks again, and have a great holiday season!

Regards,

Steven Searle
Edmonton, Alberta

P.S.  I trust you got my money order safely.

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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:28:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes the World and Soccer

Hello, welcome to the list :)

> > The funny thing is that soccer is THE main sport, and some people really
> > go grazy for it, and one of the main anthems sung at Stadiums are with the
> > melody of Pop Goes the World (of course the words are different and in
> > Spanish), but no one knows where it comes from. This same thing can be
> >> observed in Argentina, where soccer fans are also very energetic.

There is a spanish version of it??  That must sound so interesting!! :)


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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:34:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Hey Men!

Hey Men!

Um, I got my CDs!

As everyone else who've received them previously has stated, their
quality is top notch.  I and some of my friends collect and trade rare
concert recordings frequently - and this kind of quality is even rarer
(or more rare (or whatever))!

I was just typing to someone last week that if it weren't for The
Safety Dance and I Like, my fave MWH song would probably be Ban The
Game (from Rhythm Of Youth).  I said the problem with it though is that
it's just a little short intro.  I've always thought it would've made a
great song if it was longer.  Then yesterday, after ten years of
thinking this, I discovered that it was indeed a full length song when
played live!  What a kewl surprise!

What exactly is the source of this live material?

And I don't mind the fading between the songs at all!  In fact, I think
it's kinda neat.  Whenever I make a custom various artists compilation
tape in the future, they'll be a breeze to include because of it.

With regards to the rare studio stuff CD, I'm one of those who wondered
for twelve years why "(Part III)" appeared after the name "Folk Of The
80s".  Until I joined this list a few months ago, I'd never even been
aware of the existence of the original "Folk Of The 80s" EP.  It's very
nice to have it now and be able to listen to it anytime I wish, despite
the fact that I do not have a long history of wanting to and being
deprived of it at the same time as I know some of you who are reading
this do.

Is Antarctica listed as "Antarctica (1980)" on the original EP label or
is that just something included on my CD to differentiate it from the
version that was released in 1983?  The two versions don't sound much
different to me, although I haven't yet done any side-by-side
comparisons.  To me it just sounds like there is a bit more reverb in
the 1980 mix.

I have mixed opinions of "Freeways" having never heard it before
either.  I don't think it's the greatest thing MWH has ever done, but
it's a very good track for MWH curiosity seekers like myself.

I really hate 12" singles which pack in 4+ remixes of the same song.  I
cannot play them all the way through and be thoroughly entertained like
I can with most of the other discs I play.  I have owned the "Pop Goes
The World" and "Moonbeam" 12" singles since they were released.  I've
always thought "Moonbeam" was a much better song than it's chart action
suggested - and the 12" remixes of it are very good as well, however I
have always *hated* the PGTW remix 12".  All of the remixes on it sound
very slow which makes for a poor dance record.  Ivan also completely
stripped the melody from them, turning them basically into soft rap
remixes.  Raspberries to that!

But overall, these CDs are three of my most prized possessions.  If you
didn't take a number quickly enough to get your own set and would like
a copy of them on a single VHS HiFi videocassette, post me a note
privately.

Myke the Mad Hatter


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From: Gregor Watson <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:18:14 GMT
Subject: (hats) CDs.....

Picture a quiet town in Scotland on Christmas eve. The postman knocks on the
door, "Delivery for Watson". Could it be 3 brilliantly presented good
quality CDs by Men Without Hats, no chance, I must be dreaming. I would've
been last Christmas. Thanks J.R. you've done a superb job.

Hope all you fellow Hat fans have as good a Christmas, I know I'm going to.

Best wishes,

Gregor



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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:43:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Antarctica (1980)

> Is Antarctica listed as "Antarctica (1980)" on the original EP label or
> is that just something included on my CD to differentiate it from the
> version that was released in 1983?  The two versions don't sound much

What is the 1983 version?  Where is it?  The 1980 version sounds just
like the Freeways one and the one on "Collection".  Although, I did not
do any side by side comparisons myself.

As for the 12" of "PGTW", it's interesting. That one point where Ivan
"sings" the last verse (I think it is), he sounds a lot like the singer
from Guns And Roses.


........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:48:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) I wish you a ....

Merry Christmas everyone!  If you don't celebrate Christmas, then Happy
Holidays :)

And now a shameful plug:
If you get bored over the next two days, take a look at my (rather slow)
page and read some comics.  The URL is www.interlog.com/~daniele

*<(:)

........"Where can we find a duck and a hose at this hour?".............
                       [e-mail]
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From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 06:31:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: (hats) CDs

Just had a snowball fight with one of the neighbours kids - doesn't sound
too wierd but a) its the first white Christmas we've had in London for 25
years and b) I think it was a neighbours kid but I'm not too sure as I've
never seen him before!  Anyway, I'm sure the police will come round
later...

We've got a ghost!!!  We were at my parents for Christmas day and for some
reason we got talking about ghosts and stuff and my girlfriend mentioned
that she'd bee touched on the shoulder a few times when there was no-one
else in the flat.  She didn't mention it earlier as she thought that she
was going a bit mental.  I've noticed that sometimes the studio goes really
cold and I feel someone walk past me or past the door.  I thought that I
was going mad so I didn't mention anything either!  Anyway, whats this got
to do with the MWH list?  Well, you have to talk to ghosts and keep them
happy so we're calling ours Ivan after the great one who we all remember!
Obvious really wasn't it?

Right, Antarctica has just finished, and its now Security - well done JR
Bootlegger!!  I was surprised to hear a full version of Ban The Game as I
always thought that it was 51 seconds long.  And, as well as that, all that
'rock' stuff from a 'synth band'... marvellous.  Does anybody out there
know if they ever used sequencers in their shows, as I heard loads of bum
notes (no complaints though!) and wonder if any of it was ever sequenced.
Playing live drums over a sequencer is quite hard, the bass was played by a
guy with a piece of wood and some long strings, lots of guitar and
(obviously) live synths.

The reason why I ask is that in '85 I went live with my band Shootersway
Park and we used a Korg SQD8 (or was it a SQD1?) sequencer for most of the
stuff, so they were available at the time.  I know that loads of people
complain when they hear computerised music, but that never stoped Vince
Clarke did it?  Early Depeche Mode was mostly on tape (still is as far as I
know!), and people like Howard Jones rely on them totally.  I saw the Human
Leage at the Royal Albert Hall and they used no sequencers whatsoever -
everything played live.  I know that Live '83 sounds sequenced but I'm not
too sure, apart from the Linn drum(?) feeding a simple pulse to an analogue
pulse synth or something.  I'd be interested in any news on that...

Right, off to eat more turkey and annoy the neighbours.


Have a great new year and a marvellous birthday - I will :-)


Mike



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From: Mike Best <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 06:32:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: (hats) Antarctica

Just read the pre-xmas email - wasn't antarctica the b-side to one of their
12" singles?  Safety Dance i think it was because at the time i swopped the
7" for the 12" version and lost the track.  Or was that security?  i say
that as my RoY DAT has some extra tracks on it, including a shorter version
of antarctica which _definately_ sounds different to the freeways CD
version...  and it ain't just the reverb!

While Clare's away the ghost and I can play!  We can dance if we want...


Mike

PS I just went to send this email and I felt the ghost again - creepy or
what?  Must like reading the email before it is sent...


Mike & Ivan!!!



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