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hats Digest               Monday, 4 November 1996      Volume 02 : Number 007

In this issue:

    Re: (hats) Rare Hats...
    (hats) THE VIDEO
    Re: (hats) Greatest Hats
    Re: (hats) Greatest Hats
    Re: (hats) Bruce Murphy
    (hats) Da Video!
    (hats) Copy of video FS
    (hats) Greatest Hats
    (hats) Video
    (hats) Oglio overseas release?
    Re: (hats) Oglio overseas release?
    (hats) Videotape Progress
    (hats) New release!!!!
    Re: (hats) New release!!!!
    Re: (hats) New release!!!!
    (hats) Greatest Hats
    (hats) Video
    (hats) pop goes the world
    (hats) re:New Release!!!!
    (hats) Pictures from 1983 to 1988
    (hats) www.cdnow.com
    (hats) New Release..IMHO
    (hats) www.cdnow.com -Reply
    (hats) missed messages
    (hats) What will Ivan sound like after all these years?....

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:55:15 -0400
Subject: Re: (hats) Rare Hats...

In a message dated 96-10-23 00:11:00 EDT, you write:

<< Also...I'm wondering if this live show in Montreal is the one included on
 the video compilation or yet another one??? And has anyone ever heard Ban
 the Game Part II??
  >>
It's probably the same one...it starts with "Heaven", and Ban the Game ( I )
leads into Ban the Game II...


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:37:09 -0400
Subject: (hats) THE VIDEO

Hats fans!!!!!

Got my video today!!!!  I watched the entire tape before doing anything
else!!!!!  It was excellent!!!  The live show was great to see.  It sort of
bridged a gap in my Hats fandom.  I also saw the videos for the first time
(sans SD and WDTBG)!!!!  Very original and they hold up even by today's
standards.

Brad Day

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From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:15:44 -0700
Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats

Carl wrote:
>
> You hard-core MWH fans will dig this. A new version of the MWH
> Collection is coming out in Canada. It should be in stores soon.

Does anyone know if this is on the Mainstream label?

Jim
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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:51:21 -0800
Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats

The label is called Aquarius and they are in Montreal. That is about all
I know.

Carl @ oglio

James Davis wrote:
>
> Carl wrote:
> >
> > You hard-core MWH fans will dig this. A new version of the MWH
> > Collection is coming out in Canada. It should be in stores soon.
>
> Does anyone know if this is on the Mainstream label?
>
> Jim
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From: Bruce Murphy <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 22:35:17 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) Bruce Murphy

Hi Francis

Thanks for your questions. Lenny Pinkus and I shared keyboard duties for
the 1988 tour. Marika Tjelius played keyboard bass, and Heidi Garcia
played some string pads in some songs. Ivan played a bit of piano on
parts of th tour as well. Ivan took quite a while to do PGTW, but this
was before my time. I was under the impression that the the delay was
due to losing their deal at Polygram, but hey, who knows. I met Ivan's
ex-wife once while I was living over at Stef's place. She was very nice
and Ivan and her seemed to get along fabulously. I forget what she did
for a living, but I seem to recall it was something interesting?

I don't remember meeting you in Montreal, but hell, I can't remember
half the tour! :-) I'll be talking to Ivan this weekend, I'll tell him
you said Hi. Apparantly he's working in a studio in Montreal. He left a
message on my voicemail last week but didn't elaborate. (Maybe new Hats
material?)

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Ottawa, Canada
Dictator for Life; Underground Miata Network
http://www.ottawa.net/~tanner/umn

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From: "William G. Perrin III" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:36:23 +0900
Subject: (hats) Da Video!

Well, the land of the rising sun has it's first and only copy of the
best chunk of music ever to be put on video tape.  I'll be putting on a
preview of the video at a club in Osaka this weekend if anyone will be
in the neighborhood (Copyrights don't mean too much in Asia.)

Tom, I must raise a hunk of cold fish and warm cup of rice wine to your
efforts!  The videos themselves came out much better than I expected and
the concert is a MUST for any MWH fan.  (There are a few sound problems
in the concert section with level dropouts)

Maybe I'm just stating the obvious, but I think that we all owe Mr.
Norman a debt of gratitude for adding to the incredibly scarce supply of
MWH material available.  Out of all the people talking about making a
bootleg CD, video, T-shirt, etc., Tom is the only person who actually
DID anything about it.  My hat goes off to you Tom!



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From: [e-mail] (Heidi)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:04:28 -0400
Subject: (hats) Copy of video FS

A little while ago Michael Thomas offered to make copies of the video
for anyone too far down on the original video list. I ordered one from
him and got it a few days ago. I watched it once and decided it's not
something I'm likely to watch again so thought I'd offer it to someone
else. There's nothing wrong with the tape and it's on a nice Maxell
HGX-Gold tape. I just don't expect I'll watch it again so I figured
I'd see if anyone else is far down on the wait list and wants to just
buy this one instead of waiting for one of those. If you, just drop
me a note about it. (don't reply to the list.) Send to me at
[e-mail] since I read that account more often then this one.

Btw, does anyone on the list speak French and knows what ID is saying
in that one interview?

=}{=



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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:59:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (hats) Greatest Hats

> The label is called Aquarius and they are in Montreal. That is about all
> I know.

Aquarius....isn't that the label Corey Hart was on?


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:05:46 -0500
Subject: (hats) Video

Francis,

Lost your E-Mail address.  Please re-send and I will respond to your
question.

Brad Day

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From: [e-mail] (Donald Stroud)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:26:32 -0800
Subject: (hats) Oglio overseas release?

Carl,

Any word on the European release of your 2-on-1 "Rhythm Of Youth/Folk
Of The 80s (Part III)" CD? I've got a friend in Germany awaiting my
command to purchase one...

Don2
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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 06:51:34 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) Oglio overseas release?

Donald Stroud wrote:
>
> Carl,
>
> Any word on the European release of your 2-on-1 "Rhythm Of Youth/Folk
> Of The 80s (Part III)" CD? I've got a friend in Germany awaiting my
> command to purchase one...
>
> Don2
> [e-mail]
>

We are looking at Feb/March. Stay tuned!

Carl

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From: Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:17:24 -0600
Subject: (hats) Videotape Progress

Hi all,
I've just mailed out #10-#20.   I'm working on #20-#30 now.

Tom
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:14:31 -0500
Subject: (hats) New release!!!!

Hello guys!!!

It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January.

I have no more information for now.


If anyone want picture of the band between 1983 to 1987 and some audio clip
(in french), let me know, I will send your personnally via E-Mail some of
them

bye

Francis


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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:17:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (hats) New release!!!!

> It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January.

PERFECT!  Can't wait for this to come out!  A great reason for the new
year!  I'm happy that it is all in french in a way;  that was one of the
reasons why Men Without Hats were so appealing--their french lyrics with
the english.  I wonder what kind of music he will sing? Coudl you picture
Ivan rapping? 8^0  Sorry for ruining your day.



> If anyone want picture of the band between 1983 to 1987 and some audio clip
> (in french), let me know, I will send your personnally via E-Mail some of
> them

Sure, I'd love the pictures.  How big are they?

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From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 13:54:58 -0800
Subject: Re: (hats) New release!!!!

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Hello guys!!!
>
> It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January.
>
> I have no more information for now.
>
> If anyone want picture of the band between 1983 to 1987 and some audio clip
> (in french), let me know, I will send your personnally via E-Mail some of
> them
>
> bye

Thanks for the info!

Any ideas if it'll be entitled "Return of the Logo" and include the "UFOs R Real" track (everyone remember
that thread?)?

Jim
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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:05:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Greatest Hats

I walked into Tower Recrods today (in Toronto that is) and saw "Greatest
Hats" selling for $11.99!!!!!!!!  What a surprise.  But they had few
copies.  Stupid me did not buy one.  I will go next week so maybe I'll
wise up and buy a copy (on tape though, for the car).  Someone from
Germany sent me an e-mail asking me to get a copy for him--I am sorry
that I lost your e-mail address (and name!), please e-mail me.

In response to a previous posting:
> Any ideas if it'll be entitled "Return of the Logo" and include the
>"UFOs R Real" track (everyone remember that thread?)?

I don't remember that thread.  Probably before I subscribed.  Is that an
unreleased track?


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From: "Russ Kemsley" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 08:40:05 UT
Subject: (hats) Video

I just have to publicly thank Tom for his efforts on this FANTASTIC video! The
live footage just blew me away.

Thanks, Tom!


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From: kellye <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:34:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) pop goes the world

a few of you have responded to my request for pop goes the world.have not
heard from yall in a while and wanted to make sure that everything is
still set.  please let me know!

kellye




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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:15:49 -0500
Subject: (hats) re:New Release!!!!

<<It's official, Ivan come back with a French solo album in January.>>

YES!!!  It's been a great year!  Collection, Greatest Hats (which I need to
get, but still...), the Video, and now....

<<I have no more information for now.>>

But you will, of course, make sure to tell us when you hear more...Until then
I will eagerly await your news.

Bruce:  Was this what The Great One wanted to talk to you about?

Dave K.



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:20:04 -0500
Subject: (hats) Pictures from 1983 to 1988

Due to a lot of request, I have no choice.  I will scan all the pictures I
have from the hats between 1983 to 1988.

I will let you know when everything will be ready...

Bye bye

Francis


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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:29:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) www.cdnow.com

I browsed the online record store, CDNOW, and saw that they are selling
"Rhythm of Youth"!  It's not a cd, it's a cassette.  For the low price of
$4.98!  Weird how the track listing is different.  It doesn't have the
reprise of "The Great Ones Remember" and it starts off with "Cocorricci
(Tango Des Valeurs)" (sp) and ends with "Ban The Game".

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From: Steven Enz <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 04:12:53 -0800
Subject: (hats) New Release..IMHO

> It's official, Ivan (will be coming) back with a French solo album in January.

Wow! Where did you find that out?

When I hear about something like this I cant help but wonder; "Whats it
gonna be like?".  Do any among us dare to speculate aloud?  "I" sayeth
me!  And so here go I...  Let us analyse the situation.  Rumors have
abounded about academia in the art of film. Five years beyond Sideways
is certainly enough for our hero to have obtained that piece of paper.
If so, why a new album but not a new film?  I think the answer lies in
his last work of art more than anything.  Most of us realize that
Sideways was an attempt at breaking out of a pigeon hole. There may have
been a little something to prove to his critics as well, no?  My
personal belief is that the "art" took a bit of a back seat to these
intentions. Now with new ideas gleaned and fostered by his scholastic
experience he returns. Finding himself free of those "Synth" shackles
and having nothing to prove, (ie "I can play guitar too, see!") Ivan
discovers he has more to say...

My prediction, then, is for an alternative sort of thing. Perhaps with
elements of Smashing Pumpkins and They Might Be Giants. Guitar? Most
definately! But at a more controlled level. Synth? perhaps a little, but
not not noticably. Traditional instruments, violins, piano?  Sure!  Not
so traditional ones like an accordian, a gazoo and a soccer whistle? Why
not! But most important, IT WILL INCLUDE ART!!!

On the other hand maybe he's just trying to drum up cash to fund a film
project!  Oh well, c'est la vie.

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From: Kevin Gamble <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 09:15:47 -0600
Subject: (hats) www.cdnow.com -Reply

>>I browsed the online record store, CDNOW, and saw that they are selling
"Rhythm of Youth"!  It's not a cd, it's a cassette.  For the low price of
$4.98!  Weird how the track listing is different.<<

    The cassette version (at that low price) has been available for years, at
least in the US;  I don't think the tape ever went out of print.  Funny about
the track listing, though--I have a tape copy I bought a year or so ago, and
the track listing is normal, so I wonder if the CDNow listing is a mistake.
The sound quality on my cassette is excellent, btw, so it's worth tracking
down if you can't wait for the CD.

    I finally got the Collection CD for my birthday last month, and it's great
(thanks to Swahili Steve for tiding me over).  One thing it's done has been to
give me a greater appreciation for "Living in China"--I was never really into
that song before, but now I really dig it.  Still hoping to hear "Great Ones
Remember" on CD, though... :-)

Kevin

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From: GARBOWSKI JR CHARLES R <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:25:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) missed messages

To the listmaster:

    (Sorry to send this to the whole list).  Could the list master
please forward me the messages for the past few days.  My e-mail was down
and the last message I got was from Thomas Norman, dated the 29th of
October and the subject was (hats) Videotape Progress.  Any messages from
then on I missed.  My e-mail is working again now so I was hoping I could
get what I missed.  Thanks.

Charlie

P.S.  Kellye: those tapes are done I just have to write up the track
lists and send them...won't be too long.



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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:50:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) What will Ivan sound like after all these years?....

> My prediction, then, is for an alternative sort of thing. Perhaps with
> elements of Smashing Pumpkins and They Might Be Giants. Guitar? Most
> definately! But at a more controlled level. Synth? perhaps a little, but

Maybe not alternative. Remember, the album is in french so I guess he's
aiming for the Quebecois market and also France.  Taking today's popular
music charts (that is Europe's), I'm gonna contradict myself here and say
maybe he'll be a cross between "RoY" meets Celine Dion, Roch Voisine, and
a few guitar riffs. Not to say that Ivan will conform to what is popular,
but I think, after hearingthe diffenret styles of MWH's albums, that
could be the next style?  As long as Ivan doesn't scream in his songs....

> not not noticably. Traditional instruments, violins, piano?  Sure!  Not
> so traditional ones like an accordian, a gazoo and a soccer whistle? Why

A soccer whistle!  COOL!  I'd love to hear Ivan's rendition of "Safety
Dance" on one of those!

> On the other hand maybe he's just trying to drum up cash to fund a film
> project!  Oh well, c'est la vie.

....a soundtrack?  Boy, talk about jumping to conclusions!  I'd make a
great tabloid reporter.


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