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hats Digest               Tuesday, 22 October 1996      Volume 02 : Number 006

In this issue:

    (hats) Re: Greatest Hats
    Re: (hats) Re: Greatest Hats
    (hats) Digitally remastered Hats
    (hats) News from Mike Best
    (hats) Greatest Hats
    Re: (hats) Digitally remastered Hats
    (hats) Clicks and Pops
    (hats) PAL format Video
    Re: (hats) Clicks and Pops
    Re: (hats) Greatest Hats
    Re: (hats) PAL format Video
    (hats) Tape has arrived!
    Re: (hats) Tape has arrived!
    (hats) The first one!
    Re: (hats) Greatest Hats mailorder
    Re: (hats) Greatest Hats mailorder
    (hats) Rare Hats...
    (hats) Bruce Murphy
    (hats) Ivan the poster boy
    Re: (hats) Rare Hats...
    (hats) Tu sois Ivan?

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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:30:57 +0000
Subject: (hats) Re: Greatest Hats

> > Freeways (Euromix) 5:45
>
> Is this the one with all the languages?

I'll pop it in the CD player tomorrow and let you know.

> > On Tuesday 4:08
>
> I wonder why On Tuesday is on it?

Good question. All tracks were picked by Marc Durand and the record was released on a
small indie label in Canada (not affiliated with Oglio).

> > Sideways 4:53
>
> Not to be a pain, but where's "In the 21st Century"?  :) This is
> perfect.  I'll buy it on cassette and use it for the car.  Thanks again
> Carl!!

Well, you can thank me for the art and mastering of some of the tracks but it was Marc
Durand that got it released in Canada. :)

Carl @ Oglio


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From: [e-mail] (Solipsist Nation)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:06:38 -0400
Subject: Re: (hats) Re: Greatest Hats

>> > Freeways (Euromix) 5:45
>>
>> Is this the one with all the languages?

I believe it is. One of my favorites... I have the 12" with Utter Space and
I Got the Message, and its actually one of the main reasons I have for
wishing I had a working turntable... Getting it on CD would be better
still, though, and let me save my vinyl!

Josh



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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:53:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (hats) Digitally remastered Hats

> Well, you can thank me for the art and mastering of some of the tracks
>but it was Marc Durand that got it released in Canada. :)

You did the remastering?  I thought someone else did for the "Collection"
Cd.  I'd love to know how remastering is done.  Could you enlighten me? :)

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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:24:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (hats) News from Mike Best

Hi all,

I got a letter from Mike Best yesterday.  Nice stationery, he made his
own MWH logo.  Except the symbol of the man, he put "copy".  I don't know
what that means.

As we know, Mike lost his job and also his e-mail so he hasn't been on
this mailing list.  When Dr. Bruce Murphy joined, and posted all those
wonderful stories, I thought I'd save them, put them on a diskette and
mail it to Mike.  Hope that is ok! :)

I told Mike about the 2-for1 CD being available except North America and
he said he could buy them bulk from the local store and forward them to
anyone on this list who wants one.

Mike found another job which makes him work 17/18 hour DAYS.  Ouch.  So
he really has a hard time finding time for the bootleg.

As for the bootleg Cds, he writes:

    "I'll concentrate my efforts to trying to get the live and rare
stuff out for Christmas, with the "Antarctica" track left off the Oglio
compliation included.  Guess what's playing right now?  Track 3 of
"Collection--spooky!  Please give my apologies to everyone 'bout the
delay but as you can appreciate the first few months of a new company are
hectic (understatement) but I am now in th eprocess of upgrading my home
studio so that I can complete the whole mastering process myself-- direct
from everyone's tapes/cds to my mac digitally and then remixed etc
straight to recordable cd.  Should be fun, but as I've said, it takes
time-- which is a very scarce commodity for me at the minute.  Maybe I
should have a holidat in my studio and do nothing but MWH stuff!  Sounds
tempting but I can't turn down work--understand my situation???"

I also told him about the video bootleg....

    "The video--sounds as though it could be brilliant.  Where do I
order my UK version from?"

He also added a few things he wanted me to pass on to a few mailing list
members:

"Tell Laura that a surprise uk video is in the post featuring a certain
'doctor who offspring type person'.  She'll understand!  sorry to be
asking you to do all these things, but it'll only take one e-mail....I
feel though I'm almost part of the list again!  Oh yeah, mention a
'hello' to Lars in Norway, and I hope his new job is going well :-))

     Anyway, gotta go and do some work :-(  but as the miami dolphins
aren't, that shouldn't stop me.  (poor Tony, kidnapped again...) thanks
again for the disk, it's much appreciated and actually amde me smile for
the first time in ages.

Mikey"

So there's the update!!!


Maybe a hat for Christmas!!!

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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:00:33 +0000
Subject: (hats) Greatest Hats

> >> > Freeways (Euromix) 5:45
> >>
> >> Is this the one with all the languages?
>
> I believe it is. One of my favorites... I have the 12" with Utter Space and
> I Got the Message, and its actually one of the main reasons I have for
> wishing I had a working turntable... Getting it on CD would be better
> still, though, and let me save my vinyl!
>
> Josh

Do save your vinyl as your vinyl may sound better than the vinyl used for this
recording. There are a few clicks and pops. ;-)

Carl @ Oglio

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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:06:41 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) Digitally remastered Hats

> > Well, you can thank me for the art and mastering of some of the tracks
> >but it was Marc Durand that got it released in Canada. :)
>
> You did the remastering?  I thought someone else did for the "Collection"
> Cd.  I'd love to know how remastering is done.  Could you enlighten me? :)
>

There is a big difference between "mastering" and "REmastering." We only master
for our compilations.

Remastering implies that you go back to the original multitrack masters and mix a
new two track master for each song. This is typically done by the band or by
producers, etc as it involved many creative decisions. After remastering is done
then the process of mastering begins.

Mastering is the process of collecting the best available two track mixed song
masters, eq-ing and sequencing them for use in manufacturing. Hope this helps!

Carl @ Oglio

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:45:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (hats) Clicks and Pops

> Do save your vinyl as your vinyl may sound better than the vinyl used for
> this recording.  There are a few clicks and pops. ;-)

Surely you are aware of software solutions to analog noise problems.
I've a friend who uses a dual-PeeCee setup in his home as a recording/
mastering "lab" (I guess one could call it that, anyway.).  He uses a
software package called Sound Forge to clean up his old homemade cassette
recordings.  He says it is designed to eliminate things such as vinyl surface
noises, turntable rumble and tape hiss.  Do you not employ similar stuff
when you master something for CD release from a source such as vinyl?

Myke

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From: Gregor Watson <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:59:54 GMT
Subject: (hats) PAL format Video

Just finished watching the video that arrived today, it took four days just
like Thomas said. It's brillant much more stuff on it than I ever expected.

The quality is very good, in fact probably better than most rental videos.
Looks like the conversion process is undetectable to anyone who isn't clued
up on video technology.

By the way, my girlfriend who isn't the biggest MWH fan in the world has
just put Sideways on after watching the video twice with me. Oh, and if
Bruce or Carl speak to Ivan you could let him know that she thinks he's
quite hot stuff and should be pictured on the front of any future releases.
At least I can watch the video without as many complaints as expected.

All the best, I'm off to the TV again.

Gregor


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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:06:51 -0800
Subject: Re: (hats) Clicks and Pops

> > Do save your vinyl as your vinyl may sound better than the vinyl used for
> > this recording.  There are a few clicks and pops. ;-)
>
> Surely you are aware of software solutions to analog noise problems.
> I've a friend who uses a dual-PeeCee setup in his home as a recording/
> mastering "lab" (I guess one could call it that, anyway.).  He uses a
> software package called Sound Forge to clean up his old homemade cassette
> recordings.  He says it is designed to eliminate things such as vinyl surface
> noises, turntable rumble and tape hiss.  Do you not employ similar stuff
> when you master something for CD release from a source such as vinyl?
>
> Myke
>

Yes I do. We rarely use vinyl and when we do we spend the big $$ to get it right.
This project was produced by a label not associated with myself or Oglio Records.
They just used our art and some of the tracks from the Oglio CD as masters.

Carl

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From: Carl <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:14:01 -0800
Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats

Thomas:

Feel free to send a copy of your dat to the label in Canada but I doubt they would go
to all the trouble to master the CD again for that track. Give it a listen first.

Carl


Thomas Norman wrote:
>
> >Do save your vinyl as your vinyl may sound better than the vinyl used for this
> >recording. There are a few clicks and pops. ;-)
> Carl,
> I've got a PERFECT vinyl copy of Freeways (euromix).  I stumbled upon 3
> sealed copies in a quebecois record store chain, in the bargain bin around
> 1991 in Montreal.  On the very first play of the virgin vinyl, I put it
> directly onto DAT (48kHz).   I sounds nearly like a CD, certainly NO cracks
> and pops.  I just happened to of also had a two month old "super high end"
> cartridge on the turntable at the time.  I also fine tuned the speed of the
> turntable exactly (within a 1/4 second).
>     Although it is probably too late, I could fedex my DAT to someone up there.
>
> By the way
>
> Why don't these guys use the original master 2-tracks for Freeways as well
> as the other material.  Have they been thrown in the trash?
>
> CRAP!   I now see the problem.  Freeways is STATIK records.  MCA never did
> this in the US and I think WEA Canada just manufactured and distributed it.
> Oh well.
>
> Tom
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From: Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:29:01 -0400
Subject: Re: (hats) PAL format Video

At 06:59 PM 10/19/96 GMT, you wrote:
>Just finished watching the video that arrived today, it took four days just
>like Thomas said. It's brillant much more stuff on it than I ever expected.
>
>The quality is very good, in fact probably better than most rental videos.
>Looks like the conversion process is undetectable to anyone who isn't clued
>up on video technology.
Thank God!  Great!  OK.  If Gregor's video looks that good, then all the
other overseas videos should look great too.
Well...  Thats a load off my shoulders.  Back to copying US/CAN tapes.  Bye.
Tom
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From: [e-mail] (Henning Schmiedehausen)
Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:02:33 +0200
Subject: (hats) Tape has arrived!

Today, when I came home from work, there it was!

Luckily enough my girl friend wasn't around when I first gave it a
spin (She's not much into MwH, unfortunately). At first: The picture
is greaaatttttt! The NTSC->PAL conversion seems to have went smooth.

And it's cool. I think I jumped in front of the TV for the whole
time. And there were _lots_ of A-ha-effects for me, too. There _is_ a
Video to "I like". One for "21st Century". One for "Where do the Boys
go?" Cool.

And then the live show.  Wow! I always thought of MwH being of some
kind of technical, cool stage act like, say, Depeche Mode or Human
League. They're not! They're a real rocker on stage. And for me, being
on the wrong side of the pool, there were lots of surprises too: So,
this is "Heaven". This is "Security". Oh yes, there are more lines to
"Freeways" (and there is a heavy metal version of Freeways,
too. :-)). "Ban the game" with more than just a piano and more. Great
stuff!

Thanks a lot for the _great_ tape, Thomas. I'll send out money on
monday.

    Ciao
        Henning

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From: Gregor Watson <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:36:49 GMT
Subject: Re: (hats) Tape has arrived!

At 15:02 19/10/96 +0200, you wrote:
>Today, when I came home from work, there it was!
>
>Luckily enough my girl friend wasn't around when I first gave it a
>spin (She's not much into MwH, unfortunately).

Neither was mine until she took a fancy to Ivan. I don't know if this is
good or bad!


Bye


Gregor


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 20:27:06 -0400
Subject: (hats) The first one!

I hope this time it`s gonna work,

My name is Francis, I am from Montreal, Quebec.  I am following MWH since
their first debut at montreal
in 1980.

In 1985, I began to work with Alert Music and Marc Durand (He was the manager
of the hats).

I have in my collection some innedite picture, video, "picture disk" of
Safety Dance.

I want to share my souvenir for free, so if you want some "french" interview
with Ivan, MWH in concert at montreal, etc.
Leave me a message.

I can also scan some picture of the band and send it to you guys!

Anyway, talk to you later!

Francis Joannette
JDIVITO334@AOL

P.s. you can call me from 9 to 5 at [phone] and ask for Francis.  With
all the things I have, I got the "thing" that
you are looking for!!!!!! Ciao!

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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:38:18 +0000
Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats mailorder

Hi Hatters!

And a big thanks to Tom for the lead (see below)...

I just got off the phone with them, and they said that they didn't
have Greatest Hats in yet.  The girl said that the release date had
probably been pushed back and the store just hadn't been told about
it (she had the same release date for it that Tom supplied).  She
said to try again in a week.  You better believe it!  I may just put
them on my speed-dial at home!!!

Next item - A PS to Gregor's girlfriend -- I agree 2,000%.  How
about a big poster of Ivan included with every CD? :-)

Before I get flamed, let me say that I like MWH because of the
amazing virtuosity of the music, the trenchant and flippant lyrics,
and the cynical but amused world view.  But it sure doesn't hurt that
Ivan's awfully cute. ;-)

:-) Laura!


> From:          Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>

> For those of you in the US who want a copy of "Greatest Hats" FAST....
> I have just the contact.  Give the HMV megastore in Toronto a call.  Its
> toll free in the US.   -->>  1-800-567-8468
...
> that the release date is OCTOBER 22.   Good hunting.


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From: "Hiram Lester, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:12:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: (hats) Greatest Hats mailorder

On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer wrote:

> Next item - A PS to Gregor's girlfriend -- I agree 2,000%.  How
> about a big poster of Ivan included with every CD? :-)
>
> Before I get flamed, let me say that I like MWH because of the
> amazing virtuosity of the music, the trenchant and flippant lyrics,
> and the cynical but amused world view.  But it sure doesn't hurt that
> Ivan's awfully cute. ;-)

My mom saw the b/w photo included with the Freeways EP and said he was
nice looking. :)

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From: [e-mail] (Rod MacQuarrie)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:51:04 EDT
Subject: (hats) Rare Hats...

Just a note to whoever was putting that bootleg CD together...Mike??? Is
Mike still here???...I talked to a guy yesterday on this list (Francis)
who has the song "Heaven" as well as another mix of Ban the Game (Part
II)...He also has a video of MWH live in Montreal...He used to work for
Marc Durand...

Also...I'm wondering if this live show in Montreal is the one included on
the video compilation or yet another one??? And has anyone ever heard Ban
the Game Part II??

Rod

PS: Incidently, Francis said he never heard of Dr. Bruce Murphy and yet
he said that he worked closely with the Hats from the mid 80's until the
early 90's...Hey Bruce...ever heard of this Francis guy from Quebec???

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:24:52 -0400
Subject: (hats) Bruce Murphy

I was a very good friend of the keybordist of the Hats in the Pop goes
theWorld tour 88.
I wasn't with the hats at this moment.  I know a lot of personnal thing of
Ivan because we had a lot of chat together between the sound check and the
show....

Here is some questions for Bruce
Question no. 1: Who was the keyboardist for PGTW tour 88?
Question no. 2: Why Ivan took 3 yeas between Folk of the 80 and PGTW?
Question no. 3: What is the name of  Ivan's ex-wife?

Thank you in advance...!!!!!

Ciao!

Francis


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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:44:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (hats) Ivan the poster boy

> My mom saw the b/w photo included with the Freeways EP and said he was
> nice looking. :)

Actually that photo kind of looks like he's really disgusted at
something!  Or angry.  Anyway, it's still a nice picture.  One of the
few of the group I have.  Maybe the photographer insulted him right
before he took the picture.

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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:51:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: (hats) Rare Hats...

> Just a note to whoever was putting that bootleg CD together...Mike??? Is
> Mike still here???...I talked to a guy yesterday on this list (Francis)

Mike isn't here.  He had to leave the Internet for a while.  I don't know
when he'll be back.



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From: Danny Rossi <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:54:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (hats) Tu sois Ivan?

Did I write that subject line correctly?

> I wasn't with the hats at this moment.  I know a lot of personnal thing of
> Ivan because we had a lot of chat together between the sound check and the
> show....

OH WOW!  I'd love to know!! Oh wait, you said "personal things".  I guess
it's just between you and Ivan.  Anyway, what I'd like to know is when's
Folk of the 80's part IV coming out? :D  Or should that be Folk of the
90s part I?


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