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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Tox  web site
Date: 02 Aug 1998 23:02:47 EDT


Hey!

I guess people at Tox are soooooo busy with other artists than Ivan.  Did you
notice that this is the SAME information that we are reading since 1 year?

Ciao

Francis


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From: goreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) re: tox site
Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT)


..weren't Ivan & co. supposedly setting up a Uforia site?

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) come on you guys
Date: 06 Aug 1998 02:22:57 EDT


    Nobody ever really responded back to the Walk on Water comment. Is Men
Without Hats talking about themselves in that song....saying "We never walked
on water" and throughout the whole song? THat's how I've taken it.

    And I was also wondering what your favorite song is...on any of the MWH or
Ivan CD's. Mine is the Freeways Live version of "I Like."
    Anybody else?

Collin


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) RE: come on you guys
Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:03:10 -0400


> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 1998 2:23 AM
> Subject: (hats) come on you guys

>     Nobody ever really responded back to the Walk on Water
> comment.

And I'm still not going to...  ;-)

[...]
>     And I was also wondering what your favorite song
> is...on any of the MWH or
> Ivan CD's. Mine is the Freeways Live version of "I Like."
>     Anybody else?

My favorite song is "Heaven" from the second boot.  I'm still wondering if
there's a studio version available somewhere...

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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) come on you guys
Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:03:11 -0400 (EDT)



>    And I was also wondering what your favorite song is...on any of the MWH or
>Ivan CD's. Mine is the Freeways Live version of "I Like."
>    Anybody else?

Hard to choose!!!!  I'd say "I Got The Message", "I Like", "Security",
"Eurotheme", "Where Do The Boys Go", "Safety Dance in the 21st Century", I
love the demo for "Living In China" and "The Rhythm of Youth".  I also like
"Moonbeam", "Walk On Water", and "SOS".  Of course there are a lot of others
like "The Safety Dance", "Antarctica", and yes, the live version of "I Like"
rocks big time!  For Ivan songs, I like "Open Your Eyes", "1972", and the
beginning to "Superbadgirls".


Maybe "Walk On Water" is about the group's popularity and possible pressure
to impress and conform to everyone.  Maybe it has something to do with
record contracts.  It might tie in with "Messiahs Die Young" where I think
it's about Ivan not wanting to be a huge pop star, all he wants is to have
fun making music.

How about your least favourite song?  One track which stands out is
"Messiahs Die Young".  It never appealed to me.  It is rather dull and it
got on my nerves after two listens.  That's it!  The rest are good.  Even
the ones on 21st Century! :D

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) come on you guys
Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:04:34 EDT


In a message dated 8/6/98 12:01:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

Nobody ever really responded back to the Walk on Water comment. Is Men Without
Hats talking about themselves in that song....saying "We never walked on
water" and throughout the whole song?

If I remember correctly, Ivan by his own admission has many times stated that
"Walk on Water" was an insight to what the band was going through leading up
to,during, and after the "Safety Dance" period, ie: the unexpected *and ill-
prepared for* meteoric rise to fame, the perks, the unrealistic expectations
*by the media, public, management and band alike*, the pedestals, the eventual
backlash, the blah, blah blah...*SNII-I-II-P!*

And I was also wondering what your favorite song is...on any of the MWH or
Ivan CD's.

I seem to keep coming back to Security, Gravity *Is My Enemy*, In the name of
Angels, and All We Do, as well as most of the instrumentals...as for Ivan's
solo work, i would have to narrow it down to SBG and You...

There...Happy Now?

;-)

Charlotte


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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Favorite MWH Song
Date: 06 Aug 1998 12:11:23 -0400 (EDT)


So hard to pick just one favorite MWH song.  Each one means so much in a
different way, but if I had to pick just one, I would have to say that
Folk of the 80's is a great tune, and by far, one of the best.  As for
worst tune, I would have to say that saying a MWH tune is bad... is
sac-religious.  Agreed?

Nathan of The Dead Wall Project




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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) come on you guys *addendum*
Date: 06 Aug 1998 23:48:29 EDT


In a message dated 8/6/98 10:40:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> How about your least favourite song?

first things first... welp, i see i forgot to add a few to my faves :-/

other goodies: I Like, WDTBG, PGTW, On Tuesday, and Editions of You
*especially the Spectrum performances of songs #1,2 and 5*

> How about your least favourite song?

beyond the shadow of a doubt: SAFETY DANCE!

close runners-up are: any/all remixes of SD, Moonbeam, and Living In China

Cheers,
Charlotte


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) my bio
Date: 09 Aug 1998 13:20:47 -0400 (EDT)


Hello!

Since some new people joined the list recently (or a few weeks ago) and this
list has been quiet unfortunately, I thought it would be nice to
re-introduce ourselves.  So here I go....

My name is Daniele Rossi and I live in Toronto, Canada. I'm 24 years old and
I'm currently looking for work in website design.  I've been a  Men Without
Hats fan since I was 9 and heard "The Safety Dance" on the radio.  I became
frantic to buy their album," Rhythm of Youth"  when I heard "I Got The
Message" on the radio and WHAT A GREAT ALBUM!  It's one of my top 5
favourite albums of all time.  I tend to like their early work more, but
that isn't to say I hate the later stuff.  I was SHOCKED when I heard
"Sideways" (my first time was when I saw the video) because Men Without Hats
to me meant electronic music.  But the song is good.  I've never seen any of
their concerts but thanks to the fan videos, I can say I "did" :)  I know
it's a bit late to say this but, "welcome to the list!"

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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CDs 6 & 7 news
Date: 09 Aug 1998 15:36:29 -0400



Hats fans,
I am sending Richard Holdman CDs 6 & 7 on Monday.  Sorry for the delay ANT.
My patience has run out on the remastering idea.  We have ALL
waited far too long.  Maybe when one of you gets the new CDs , you can  try
and re-EQ the discs for us.
As soon as Richard is ready, he should be able to start selling everyone
copies and post the tracks on his great MP3 site.
By the way, for you new MWH fans.... check out www.holdman.com/mwh

You can download rare MWH songs and see first hand what these bootleg  CDs
sound like, and look like.

I have also already sent Richard Holdman CD#9. CD#9 is the In the 21st
Century interview + PROMO CD.

Here are the tracks to all 3 NEW bootleg CDs

CD#6 - 1984 Live - Edmonton, Alberta

1. Freeways
2. Antarctica
3. Ban the Game (short version)
4. Living in China
5. I know their name
6. Messiahs Die Young
7. Ideas for Walls
8. Eurotheme
9. Things in my Life
10. I like
11. Safety Dance (extended version)
12. I got the message (missing beginning)
13. Where Do the Boys Go?
14. Editions of You
15. Moderne Dancing

This concert should sound as good as ROY live except for the high end
missing (needs EQing :-))

>> CD#7 - 1984 - Live in Washington DC
>>
>> 1. Utter Space
>> 2. Antarctica
>> 3. Ban the Game (short version)
>> 4. Living In China
>> 5. I know their name
>> 6. Messaihs Die Young
>> 7. Ideas for Walls
>> 8. Eurotheme
>> 9. Things In My Life
>> 10. Where Do the Boys Go?
>> 11. Safety Dance
>> 12. Mother's Opinion
>> 13. Unsatisfaction
>> 14. I got the message
>> 15. Security=20
>> 16. Moderne Dancing
>>
>> CD#9 - In the 21st Century Promo
>>
>> 1. In the 21st Century (single version)
>> 2. In the 21st Century (edited single version)
>> 3. In the 21st Century (street mix)
>> 4-9 Ivan interview=20
>> 10. In the 21st Century LP version
>> 11-13 interview
>> 14. Here Come the 90s
>> 15-21 same Ivan interview, but in French.

Richard,
Are you ready to make some CDs again?
 :-)

Tom
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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) introduction
Date: 09 Aug 1998 15:39:07 -0400



Hello.
My name is Tom Norman.  I was born in New Orleans, La. USA.I live in
Columbus, Ohio now.  I am 26 years old.  I am a contract issue service
technician (WHAT!?), which means that I issue annuity contracts for
Nationwide Insurance.
 I began listening to MWH after hearing Pop Goes the World on MTV in '88.  I
liked it better than Safety Dance, so I went out and  bought the album.
Later I got the used LPs of Rhythm of Youth and Folk III, and wished that
the "other" songs were played on the radio instead of "safety dance".  Then
I would have liked the band in the beginning.  Don't worry, I like safety
dance now.

  I am one of the few listmembers that really digs "The Spell" too.  Its
actually one of my favorites.  My least favorite album is =
"Sideways"
next....

Tom
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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) re-intros  :-)
Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:10:26 EDT


Hey there, Hatters!

 My name is Charlotte L. Stout. My upbringing was split between the S. F. bay
area (CA) and northern TX. I currently reside in southern CA, where I work as
a character animator (just graduated to x-sheet timing) on the t.v. series,
The Simpsons.

 I first heard of MWH with "Safety Dance", but I guess i am one of the few
freaks who happen to strongly dislike that song, cuz it wasn't until i heard
"I Got The Message" that i actually liked them, and only seriously got into
them from PGTW onwards. MWH remains one of my top fave bands of all time to
listen to: strong muscial structure, and many insightful messages within that
get their point across without bludgeoning the listener over the head ;-)

To all the newcomers, a much-belated WELCOME!

ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re-Intros...  ;-)
Date: 09 Aug 1998 16:13:46 EDT


Hey there, Hatters!

 My name is Charlotte L. Stout. My upbringing was split between the S. F. bay
area (CA) and northern TX. I currently reside in southern CA, where I work as
a character animator (just graduated to x-sheet timing) on the t.v. series,
The Simpsons.

 I first heard of MWH with "Safety Dance", but I guess i am one of the few
freaks who happen to strongly dislike that song, cuz it wasn't until i heard
"I Got The Message" that i actually liked them, and only seriously got into
them from PGTW onwards. MWH remains one of my top fave bands of all time to
listen to: strong muscial structure, and many insightful messages within that
get their point across without bludgeoning the listener over the head.  Along
with Tom and a select few others, I also very much enjoy Ivan's solo work!

To all the newcomers, a much-belated WELCOME!  ;-)

ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) introductions
Date: 10 Aug 1998 00:14:54 EDT


Hey all.

     I guess we're re-intro-ing, so I won't miss this time around.

     My name is Nicholas Pinto, and I live in Stratford, CT USA. I first heard
the ROY record when I was about 1, maybe 2. I last heard it when I was 3 and I
heard Safety Dance occasionally until I was about 10. I pulled some of my
parents records out and listened. After that was over I didn't do it again
until I was about 14. I rembered that I liked "Antarctica", so I put it on. In
those 5 years, my musical taste soared ;) and I really liked the entire album.
I'm 17 now and a giant MWH Fan.

     My favorite songs (as of right this minute) are the extended version of
Ban The Game from the 1985 concert and the jazz/rock? version of Modern(e)
Dancing from the 1983 concert.

                                                                         Who's
next?
                                                                           --N
ick P


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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) hats introduction
Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:32:57 -0400 (EDT)


Hello Hatters.  Since we all are reintroducing ourselves, I thought I
would join in.  My name is Nathan Shireman, and I have been a hats fan
ever since I picked up ROY at a garage sale, when I was in the sixth
grade.  Since that time, I thought only two other albums existed, PGTW and
21st Century, but was I ever suprised to hear from a friend a few years
later that there was so much more from IVAN and Co.  Well, to say the
least, I've hunted down almost everything I can from MWH, and I love it
all.  Even the Spell is a groovie disc!
I am an audiovisual sales director in my regular life, and in my life away
from my life I am a musician, currently working on a techo/industrial
project known as Walling For Dead Folk.  I operate out of Columbus, Ohio
and I have a digital home recording studio on the side.  Of course, MWH is
always blaring through my living room and studio....

Nathan




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From: Christopher Edward Frey <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: hats-digest V2 #81
Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:02:35 -0400 (EDT)


In response to Collin:
I agree that the "I Like" live version from the 1985 Freeways concert is
fantastic, especially with the extended keyboard intro/outro with the
harmony on the repeat.  I'd love to hear more versions of "Heaven" also as
Steve mentioned.  For a band that used lots of electronics and synth, I
was impressed by how well they performed live.  Are there any bootlegs of
concerts for PGtW, 21st C or Sideways?
PS  I was just in Toronto last weekend and everyone was sold out of "The
Spell" (good for Ivan, bad for me :) )  Could someone give the 1-800
number for HMV orders again?  Thanks!
hatlessly,
C. Frey
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From: "Bill Black" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Introduction
Date: 10 Aug 1998 18:32:55 -0700


    My name is Bill Black and I first danced to Safety Dance in 1983 in
Provo, UT when I was visiting some friends. I grew up in Los Angeles but did
not think much of that one hit wonder until 1985 when I had a missionary
companion in Brazil who had a copy of ROY and Folk III. I listened a few
times and decided to investigate further when I got home in 1986. Pop Goes
the World came out then which I didn't like initially but naturally, it
became my favorite. I was unimpressed with In the 21st Century but I thought
Sideways was pretty good for a hard rock CD. I haven't listened to the Spell
because I noticed the lyrics contain some profanity, which I don't
voluntarily listen to (I also don't see R-rated movies).
    I am currently a 33 year old dentist living in Sacramento with 6 kids. I
was hoping to see MWH in concert this summer but I guess that won't happen
soon. Maybe we should just get a life-size cut-out of Ivan and have a
simulated virtual concert....
    My favorite songs by MWH include: O Sole Mio, I Like, Ideas For Walls,
The Real World and Walk on Water. Their worst song is without question: 21st
Century Safety Dance. The things I like best about this list are stickers,
shirt and CD distributors. The Video was also fantastic.

    Here's a question to think about....

        If MWH produced a CD similar to ROY today, do you think it would be
successful (ie. would it hit the top 40 stations in the U.S., Britain and
Canada) or would it be a flop?

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) the old one forgot at least one ;-)
Date: 11 Aug 1998 02:08:48 EDT


Happy 16th Birthday(8/9) to Aaron Gitlin, from his fellow hatters!


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Bootleg CDs and Website
Date: 11 Aug 1998 08:22:56 -0600


Hello!

I have not posted a message on the board in quite awhile.

I will be redoing  the site somewhat this week as soon as I get the CDs that
Tom Norman already sent in the mail. I know there were a few broken links and
whatnot and I will be fixing everything along with posting some of the new
material that is not on there yet.

I also plan on putting more MWH videos on later after I get all the CDs put up
there in MP3 format.

I was also thinking of making a MWH screen saver. Latley I have been getting
into the screen saver bussiness and have been making some (check out my
web page at www.holdman.com/screensavers - not quite done yet though). I
was thinking of maybe making a MWH screen saver with pictures of the Album
Covers of their records. Anyway let me know what you think. The screen saver
will also allow you to have sound in it (which you can turn on and off). You can
have either MIDI files for WAV files. I can supply the WAV files but I was
wondering if anybody out there has any MIDI files of MWH songs.

-Rich


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) re-intro
Date: 11 Aug 1998 08:24:35 -0600


My Name is Richard Holdman

I drive a 64 VW Bus (www.holdman.com/richard)

-Richard


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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Bootleg CDs and Website
Date: 11 Aug 1998 11:21:41 -0400



I will be redoing  the site somewhat this week as soon as I get the CDs that
Tom Norman already sent in the mail. I know there were a few broken links
and
whatnot and I will be fixing everything along with posting some of the new
material that is not on there yet.


Rich!  You are the Man!
Yes.  I mailed the CDs out yesterday.  They are on the way.  I already have
someone asking me about CD#9. :-)

Tom
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From: Jason Webb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) FOTE vinyl for auction...
Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:17:15 -0700 (PDT)


I don't know how familiar you guys are with eBay, but there's
a vinyl copy of FOTE (part III) up for auction.  It's only at
99 cents right now.
here's the address for it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=25148088


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) intros
Date: 12 Sep 1998 21:49:51 +0100


i'm a moose, a rare one a that as i live in london and run a digital
recording studio.  I mean, how many mooses have you seen doing that
recently?  I haven't been involved much with the list over the past few
months as I've been concentrating on my music career - I have a track
being released in the US this month and hopefully signing to a UK based
label in a few days, hot weather permitting.  Listen out for Alaska
Highway!

anyways, back to being a trainee pop-star!

}:-)
Moose aka Mike, the london connection...



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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) intros
Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:00:06 +0000


Hi Hatters!

>  how many mooses have you seen

I thought the plural of moose was meese . . .    ;-)

I'm Laura, Mikey's oft-partner in crime and import/export.  I'm a
psychometrician living in North Carolina in the US, and I develop
educational achievement tests for the State.

I am up to <sigh> 6 cats and 3 dogs, but still just one husband.

I have seen Ivan live in 1984 in Florida and then again last summer
in Montreal.  Still waiting for another opportunity, but I need a
little more notice than a week!  <Hint, hint, Ivan!!!>

CUL8R, all you G8Rs!

:-) LK


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From: josh h <[e-mail]>
Date: 12 Aug 1998 19:41:56 -0700 (PDT)



Hey everyone. My name is Josh and I've been a fan ever since Safety
Dance first came out. I still have the tape in my car and listen to it
constantly. I'm real glad to have found this site and others with
similar interests. Talk to  you all later.
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From: "DAVE" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Introduction (another one)
Date: 13 Aug 1998 14:06:03 +0200


Hi hatters!!!

I won't stand back with a re-introduction of myself.
My name is DAVE (no, not really... that's only my nickname since about ten
years. But    I LIKE    it much more than my real Name which is INGO (I
think so !?).
I live in HAMELN / GERMANY, that's roundabout 50 km (that might be app. 33
miles) away from HANNOVER
(perhaps you know that city). I live here in a 2room flat with my 2 cats, my
computer and my MWH music.
My profession is... I think you call it a postman (the one who brings the
letters and packages).
 I'm 25 Years old and became a MWHolic in 1983 when i first heard "Rhythm Of
Youth" from my brothers' (he is 9 years older) turntable. It really knocked
me off my socks.
In 1984 I got "FOE III" and "PGTW" in 1987, which i lost under mysterios
circumstances in 1989.
Now i wanted to buy it again, but it seemed to be impossible to get it once
again in germany. So I gave it up.
And now (please don't laugh) i got it over the internet at a german (!)
cd-store nearly 10 years ago...
And here i found the albums "In The 21st Century",  "Sideways", "The
Collection" and "The Very Best OF".
I never knew about their existence. (Try http://www.jpc.de - I think they'll
ship overseas) You won't be floated with MWH information in germany. You
could be glad if they play the Safety Dance - Video on VH1. (once a
year...).

That's the old stuff so far, now the for the new...

I made my PERSONAL BEST OF MWH CD. (Not really, because there was not enough
space on it. Thinking about doing Volume 2 the next days.)

Here's The Track Listing:

                                                                 1. Walk On
Water
                                                                 2. In The
Name Of Angels
                                                                 3. The
Safety Dance
                                                                 4. Living
In China
                                                                 5.
Antarctica
                                                                 6. The
Great Ones Remember
                                                                 7. Things
In My Life
                                                                 8. I Like
                                                                 9. I Got
The Message (12")
                                                               10. Folk Of
The 80's
                                                               11. I Know
Their Name
                                                               12. Where Do
The Boys Go? (12")
                                                               13. Editions
Of You
                                                               14. In The
21st Century
                                                               15. Here Come
The 90's
                                                               16. Sideways

That's about 73 minutes.

If anybody is interested, email me at  [e-mail]

OK, that's all folks.
see ya

best regards...

DAVE


P.S.: Where has all the horny synth gone on the "Sideways" album???








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From: "max jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Am I Doin THis ok?
Date: 13 Aug 1998 15:02:59 PDT


My Name is Max and i never used this emailing stuff before
i Am a BIG MWH fan and i try to buy all i can i have a lot to trade and
love to make copies of stuff 4 people so would some one e-mail me if
this gets throug
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From: "John Benson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I think that I'm in Scotland
Date: 13 Aug 1998 19:39:39 PDT


Hello, I recently got introduced to the Men Without Hats by a friend of
mine named Max Jones.........at first Max only had Greatest
Hats......Then we went to various used and new music stores in our home
town, and his collection grew quite quickly.  He soon purchased Folk Of
The Eighties Part 3 on cassette.........then he went on to buy Pop Goes
The World and Folk Of The Eighties Part 3 on cassette, but this one had
a different cover.  At that same store he found Rhythm Of Youth on vinyl
for $1.99 in a pile of old records.....we went back to my house and
instantly fell in love with the entire album (espescially Things In My
Life)...............a couple days later we went back and he bought ROY
on cassette........

Then we went on the net and found out about The Spell.........Max and I
went downtown and he bought The Spell and Sideways on CD.........then
shortly after he bought Pop Goes The World and Collection on CD as well.

He also sent money to a place over the net and recieved Living In China
12" single.............also he imported The Safety Dance UK Remix single
on CD from HMV.......

Just last week Max invited me to go to Winnipeg Manitoba with him, and
there he found The Safety Dance shaped picture disc vinyl single, the
Bio-Dome soundtrack (which I'm sure you all know what's on it), and Ivan
- The Spell on tape.......

.....so you can see that Max is quite a big fan.......I like all their
songs, but he's a much bigger fan than me, and I thank him for
introducing me to them.........



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From: "thanatos.doc" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) not a re:introduction
Date: 14 Aug 1998 06:38:35 -0500


> My name is Wes Gabbard. This is actually my first post on the list; =
> thus, this IS my introduction. I am a physician doing basic research at =
> St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. I am forming a protocol for the =
> gene therapy treatment of Wiskott-Aldrich Syndrome (WAS). WAS is an =
> immunodeficiency disease associated with thrombocytopenia, eczema, and, =
> its severist form, usually leads to death by the age of eight or ten. =
> This disease has a monocistronic origin on the X chromosome although it =
> probably has pleiotropic influences. I am using the Murine Stem Cell =
> Virus, a retrovirus, to correct the genetic defect in tissue culture and =
> in mice. Hopefully, I will be able to move this treatment to the =
> clinical setting after it has been proven in culture and mice.
>     I was first influenced by MWH in 1983 with the Safety Dance. Still, =
> I thought it was this was the only song they had (one-hit-wonder, like =
> so many 80s bands). When I reached high school, one of my best friends =
> introduced me to PGTW. We even tried to see MWH in concert but were only =
> 17 and could not get into the club. But, we met Ivan outside the club =
> before the show. He got the entire band to sign my PGTW CD cover (except =
> the drummer). In college, the local dance club played the Safety Dance. =
> In an attempt to get this song on CD, I bought ...In the Twenty-first =
> Century and Sideways. Since I listen to all kinds of music (from Blues =
> to Metal to Bluegrass to Synth-Pop to etc... etc...), I thought these =
> discs were very good for their styles of music. Later, I actually found =
> RoY on CD in a used store for $9.99! Now, thanks to Laura, I found FOTE =
> III (in the 2in1 CD). Also, thanks to Tom and Richard, I recently got =
> the fantastic bootlegs. Later....                    --Wes



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From: "max jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Trade
Date: 14 Aug 1998 11:39:50 PDT


If anyone has anything to sell or trade, please contact me.

Also regarding Wes' post, if he knows if there's anymore of those
bootlegs available please contact me.

If anyone has any extra copies of anything by MWH or Ivan, please please
contact me and we'll work something out.

Max

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MP3
Date: 17 Aug 1998 02:12:38 EDT


Hey, guys!

Could you tell me how to convert a song in a MP3 format?

I don't have a lot of time, so just tell me the quick way to do it because I
have the following songs

1 - Ivan with Mitsou (2 songs)
2 - Ivan (Open your eyes, 3 different remixes)
3 - "Weird"  Al Yancovik   Safety dance parody.

ciao

Francis


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Mp3,   Thanks!
Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:58:07 EDT


Hey gang!

I received about 10 messages on the way to convert a Wav file to an MP3 file.
Thank you...

I just want to know about you guys which songs do you  want to get.

Open your eyes (there is 3 remixes).

Do I have to send those MP3 to Richard Holdman  (I guess so...)

Ciao

Francis



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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Digital Remastering
Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:11:23 -0400 (EDT)


Howdy all.  I'm not sure who was discussing digitally remastering the fan
produced CD's, but I have that capability if anyone is interested?  I
think that 6 and 7 were supposed to me remastered, but never were because
the wait became too long?  Let me know!

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Fans-made Covers
Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:49:28 -0400 (EDT)


Whatever happened to the "covers" CD we were supposed to compile?

I've got my submission ready but have heard nothing.

Myke


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH Cover CD
Date: 20 Aug 1998 15:14:11 -0600


> My web page should be up next week with the new material that I got from
> = TOM. Also we are working on a CD that will have Members from the list
> doing = covers of MWH songs. If you have any material please send it to
> me. Myke will be sending me = some stuff soon that will be on the
> webpage and will be going on the CD = we will be making of MWH covers
> done by list memebers.
>
> For now all the stuff will only be in mp3 format on my webpage until we
> = have enough material to make a CD.
>
> So if you are feeling brave and want your song on the new CD coming up =
> please send it to me. You can send it on any of the following media.
>
> TAPE
> CD
> DAT
> VHS HI-FI
> MP3 format via the internet
>
> Let me know if you have any questions
>
> -Richard


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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) couple questions
Date: 22 Aug 1998 13:05:51 EDT


Why hasn't Ivan performed recently? Was his last one in Calgary? Isn't he
gonna come east?


Is Ivan coming out with a new CD?


Oh, I was just in Montreal last weekend to see the Beastie Boys. It was
amazing. Tribe Called QUest didn't show up though....they said they were sick.
:-(
Did any other list members go?

Montreal was CrAzY. It was so busy in the streets all weekend.


Does anybody on this list go to McGill? And, is Ivan's mom still teaching
there? Ok, no more questions.

Collin from Verona (ithaca in 3 days)


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Montreal
Date: 22 Aug 1998 18:45:24 -0400 (EDT)


Bonjour chapeaux people!

I might go to Montreal this weekend (Aug 29) and I want to ask all the
Montrealers on this list where me and my friends should go.  Which clubs are
good (we're 24 years old)? Which tourist attractions are definitley not to
be missed?  Where do all the pretty girls go? ;)  Can you suggest any
Italian or hey, since we're in Montreal--Quebecoise cuisine-- restaurants
(cheap if any <grin>)?  Suggested hotels?  Where in the city should we book
a hotel?  We'll be renting a car.  I prefer the train but we're renting
anyway.  Any chance we can do a MWH tour? ;)

Merci!
Daniele

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Subject: Re: (hats) CDs 6 & 7 news
Date: 25 Aug 1998 20:14:37 EDT


could you please post richards e-mail address?  Thanks


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From: Anders Callenberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) T-shirt
Date: 26 Aug 1998 23:43:48 -0700


Hi Laura!
I would like to buy a MWH t-shirt if you still got any in store.
Best Regards Anders Callenberg


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From: Thomas Ullrich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Leaving
Date: 28 Aug 1998 18:09:00 +0200


Hi Hatters!

This weekend I'll move to D÷rentrup again as I have finished University
now. This means that I won't have the possibility to e-mail any more.
But from time to time I'll come back to University to check my e-mail
accounts. So please don't get worried if You'll have to wait a bit for
my replies. Please send CC of your mails to one of my internet accounts
in case that my University e-mail account will be deleted. I hope this
won't happen before next spring, but I'm not sure. You'll always be able
to contact me quickly by snail mail: See Claude's Who is Who list.

By the way: Please also put my 3rd e-mail address (yahoo) on your page,
Claude!

Thomas

Thomas Ullrich, Germany, [e-mail]
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD7 is online
Date: 28 Aug 1998 17:30:34 -0600


Hello Folks

CD7 is now online on my webpage at www.holdman.com/mwh

CD6 and CD9 will be on there sometime next week (I will be out of town the
next few days).

CD-7 Is a live concert that was in Washington - sometime in 1984
CD-6 is a concert in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada - August 27, 1984
CD-9 is the Living in the 21st Cent. Promo.

-Richard


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) MP3 and Windows 3.1
Date: 28 Aug 1998 20:05:09 EDT


Hey hatters.

Some of you sent me different software to encrypt Wav file to MP3 file.  The
problem is, I still an old fan of Windows 3.1 and those software don't work
with Windows 3.1

Could you send me JUST the program (dos or windows) to convert WAV to MP3???

I'm ready to send 3 songs.

Bye

Francis


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From: "Eric W. Soderblom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CHAT ROOM
Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:10:51 -0700


Hatters-
First of all the Men Without Hats Site Index has moved to
http://www.soderblom.com/hats.html.  Secondly, I added a chat room to my new
site which is at http://www.soderblom.com/chat.cgi.  If you guys want to
start arranging some times, we could do some Men Without Hats Chats there!
I think that it would be cool.  Feel free to use it and post times on the
mailing list for us to hook up.  I would like to see it used a lot, so go
for it.  I am also going to FINALLY update the Hats site index soon.  Later
Oh Hatless Ones.....

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) hey
Date: 28 Aug 1998 20:30:54 -0500


hry
you guys are really good but im having trouble finding a MWH t-shirt
could you infr=orm me as of what to do to get a shirt
sincerely,
matt


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From: Berthiaume & Fils <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Francis
Date: 29 Aug 1998 20:16:16 -0400


Salut Francis, je suis pas capable de t'envoyer le fichier =
directement(Mon e-mail se rend pas) et je ne sais pas pourquoi :( =
(Maudit Globe Trotter de merde) !!!

Si tu veux, je peux te l'envoyer par ICQ ou sur mIRC


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Montreal
Date: 31 Aug 1998 20:05:20 -0400 (EDT)


Hi everyone!

I got back from a weekned trip to Montreal and I'd liek to post a little
review of the hatless city if I may.  If you don't care to read this, hit
"delete" now :)

when compared with Toronto, I was always told Montreal was better and
Toronto was a cold concrete city.  I was always a little offended with this
but now that I've been to Montreal---IT'S SO TRUE!  Toronto is a nice city
but Montreal is nicer (more trees) and more european.  And more festive.  Oh
and the girls......;)  Anyway, unfortunatley, I wasn't able to meet any list
members nor do a proper MWH tour of Montreal but I did go to see the Olympic
stadium where the "Where Do The Boys Go?" video was filmed.  I saw a guy in
a car next to mine on the street who resembled Ivan.

HMV on Rue St. Catherine was a disappointment but that's nothing big anyway
:)  Except I was surprised to find a CD by Jeremie Arrobas!  For those who
don't know, he used tob e with MWH in the early early early days an dwrote
some of their songs.  The CD is called "Le grand manege".  When I saw it I
thought "COOL!  A little glimpse in the MWH world".  I wondered if I should
buy it seeing I have no idea what kind of music it was.  On the cd he
waslisted as playing the synthesizer so I assumed it would be techno or
something similar.  After hearing the "Rhythm of Youth" demo and the
"Freeways" ep why not?  Besides, it costed $7.  However, to my dismay, it
wasn't what I expected.  A good album but not my taste in music.  Not
techno, not electronic, more like the top 40 they play at sports bars (kind
of like country rock with emphasis on rock).  If anyone's interested, I can
sell it to them for $10 Cdn (the extra $3 goes to postage).  Which is a
bargain these days since the Canadian dollar keeps dropping like a brick.

I totally recommend Montreal for vacation.  I'm definitley going back often
and also for the Just For Laughs festival.

Daniele

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Subject: (hats) Rational Youth
Date: 31 Aug 1998 20:21:54 -0700 (PDT)



I just got two Rational Youth cds and I want to thank whoever recommended
them- and give another strong recommendation to you all to pick them up.
Go to www.gemm.com and you'll have your choice of sellers- I got mine
from Canada.

Oh- the German Import of Cold War Night Life has extra tracks- extended
versions of City of Night and Satrudays in Silesia.

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From: Ralph Deiterding <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Rational Youth
Date: 31 Aug 1998 23:34:38 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I just got two Rational Youth cds and I want to thank whoever recommended
> them- and give another strong recommendation to you all to pick them up.
> Go to www.gemm.com and you'll have your choice of sellers- I got mine
> from Canada.
>
> Oh- the German Import of Cold War Night Life has extra tracks- extended
> versions of City of Night and Satrudays in Silesia.

Are you talking about Total Rational! here?
>
I have to also confirm this recommendation, I've been a fan since the
early 80's.  Actually saw them in concert this past Friday in Toronto, a
very good show in a very small club.  For more info see their website:

www.rationalyouth.com

If anyone has trouble locating any of their CD's I'd be glad to help out
where I can, the CD's are fairly available around here (Ontario,
Canada).

Ralph


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