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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) the old one remembers
Date: 01 Feb 1998 17:11:25 +0000


Happy birthday to Nicolas Roux from all his fellow hatters!


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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: CD Bestellen
Date: 01 Feb 1998 17:06:01 +0000


Pvbmw wrote:
>
> Wie bestelle Ich CD Von Men Without Hats  Antwort an Pvbmw

Can someone from the list tell what this means???? I received that by
e-mail...

Thanx

Claude Gregoire
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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From: "Deric Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) 2fer cd
Date: 01 Feb 1998 15:39:59 PST


Hello everyone!  I have noticed that alot of us "new" members have been
inquiring about how to obtain the 2fer cd.  Could someone please fill us
in on how or where we can get this wonderful collection?  I'm sure that
all the new members (including myself) would be eternally grateful.
Thanks in advance!
-Deric
[e-mail]
P.S. I still haven't recieved an answer to how many FOTE cds were
produced. Does anyone have any idea?



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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) 2fer cd
Date: 01 Feb 1998 20:32:04 +0000


Deric Morgan wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!  I have noticed that alot of us "new" members have been
> inquiring about how to obtain the 2fer cd.  Could someone please fill us
> in on how or where we can get this wonderful collection?  I'm sure that
> all the new members (including myself) would be eternally grateful.

Hi Deric: it seems Dr Laura Kramer is the official distributor for that
CD. Her e-mail is easy to find in the who's who section of the Men
Without Hats FAQ site (
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/home_mwh.html )

> P.S. I still haven't recieved an answer to how many FOTE cds were
> produced. Does anyone have any idea?

You'll find that and much more in the history section of the Men Without
Hats FAQ site (
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/home_mwh.html )

Take care

Claude


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From: "Deric Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) thanx
Date: 01 Feb 1998 17:49:24 PST


Thanks to David, Tom and Dale for clearing up the FOTE numbers for me!
I still am looking for a source for the 2fer if anyone knows of one.

I knew FOTE was scarce but I wasn't sure how scarce. I found a copy
about a month ago at a pawn shop here in Naples FL for $6, what a find!
I was hoping the same person might have sold them ROY also but after
about an hour of looking through used cds I came up empty handed. Oh
well, I guess I can't complain.
Thanks again.
-Deric

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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) updates . . .
Date: 02 Feb 1998 08:43:55 +0000


Hi Hatters!

Wow!  I love seeing all these new folks on the list!  If Claude
hasn't already hit you up for this, send him some biographical info
and maybe a picture of yourself for inclusion on the fabulous website
that Claude maintains for us.  (And yes, Claude, I know I haven't
sent in a picture yet - still gotta find one of me without the dog.)

2-Fer update:  All the ones that I arranged to get from Thomas are
"claimed."  I have started a waiting list in case someone changes
their mind, or if I can get some more at a later date.  I will have
to see what I can arrange with Carl and a European lister (hint,
hint!  taking volunteers . . .).  I also have not yet received the
next 5 from Thomas's mom yet.  Recall that they are coming via
surface mail, so may take a long time.  I will keep all orderers
updated whenever there is a new shipment, so we can kind of get an
idea of how long its taking.

T-shirt update:  I have had a *very* *AWFUL* new year so far, and
have not yet placed the T-shirt order.  Hopefully, I can pull the
requests from my two addresses together tonight and post an updated
order list tonight or tomorrow so people can check for errors.
Anyway, on the plus side, all you new folks can still order a
T-shirt.  Your choices are XL and XXL (they shrink), and White or
ROY-Gold (matched to my 2-fer CD cover).  The front has the MWH logo
in black and red (very large), and on the back it has "The Great Ones
Remember" and the list address.  No limit on how many T's you can
order - one to save for posterity and one to wear all the time, one
for each day of the week, whatever.  The more we order, the cheaper
they are!  I hope to have these for under $15 apiece, including
mailing in the US (more to mail outside of the US, of course).

Well, that's all for now, I guess!  Again, welcome to the new folks!!

:-) Laura in NC


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD Boot info
Date: 02 Feb 1998 09:11:14 +0000


Looks like I got a lot of response for the bootlegs - On the weekend
I burned over 20 CDs :)

If anybody else wants any let me know.

CDs are $15 with Color Artwork (These are printed on a Indigio
Digital Color Press - I work at a print shop) and $10 without the
Artwork

Currently CDs 1,2,3,5 are availiable. Tom Norman supplied this list
of what the CDs are.

CD#1 - Freeways - cassette + Pop (remix) + Moon (remix)
CD#2 - Spectrum - concert (1985 Montreal concert)
CD#3 - Toronto - concert (1983 CFNY radio broadcast)
CD#4 - BBC live LP - 6 songs (from 1984 WDTBG tour) + Winnebago song
(20min -                               [sounds like Ou sont mes men])
                                  -- in progress--

CD#5 - MWH Demos - Roy demo tape + Folk III Rehearsal tape (earliest
session) CD#6 - in progress CD#7 - in progress

-Richard Holdman




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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) IMPORTANT!!! CD BOOT INFO
Date: 02 Feb 1998 10:33:20 +0000


I made a error on my address.

I told everyone that my address was

Richard Holdman
112 North 300 East
Orem, Utah 84062

I Moved a little while ago from Orem to PG so it should have read.
Richard Holdman
112 North 300 East
PG, Utah 84062

So if you have not mailed you money yet send it there.

If you have already sent  your Money - Dont worry It should make it
because the zip code is right. What I am going to do though is mail
the CDS to those they have already replied before I get there money
in case it gets delayed

I will be mailing cds these people in the next few days. If you
have sent  your money to the wrong address and you name is not listed
below let me know so I can mail you your CDs before I get your Money.

Peter Grose cds 1,2,3 Color Artwork - Have Address
Paul Go - 1,2,3 Color Artwork - I need your address
George Polly 1,2,3,5 - Color Artwork - Have Address
Deric Morgan 1,2,3,5 - Color Artwork - FedEX - need address
Mike Miller 1,2,3 - Color Artwork - Have Address
Adam J. Weitzman 1,2,3,5 - No Artwork - Need address
Alex Fletcher 1 - Color Artwork - Have Address
Charlotte L. Stout 1,2,3 - Color Artwork - Have Address
Trena Brantley -  1,2,3,5 - Color Artwork - Have Address

If you are not listed on the above list or if i dont have a mailing
address please email me so I can send you CDs out right away.

-Richard Holdman
112 North 300 East
PG, Utah 84062












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From: Kerry Gordon 1-4 The Vine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Searching
Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:32:32 -0800


I'm a new MWH listie but not a new fan. I'm trying track down a 3 cd MWH
compilation and/or a 2 for 1 cd of 2 MWH releases on one cd.

Any assistance is appreciated.

Kerry Gordon - Toronto
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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) 2-fers list
Date: 02 Feb 1998 17:21:41 +0000


Hi Hatters!

Sorry for the list clutter - I'll be doing this again tomorrow with
the T's probably, so bear with me.  ;-)

Before Xmas, I had in my hot little paws 10 of the 2-fers obtained by
Thomas, with 20 more in Germany with Thomas's mom.  After receiving
your replies from my offer the week before Xmas, the 10 disks went to
the first 10 people who wrote after the time and date I specified.
After that, as the requests came in, I put people on the list to
claim the other 20 that are still in Germany.  After those 20 were
claimed, further requests were put on a waiting list pending another
deal through a European supplier (still hoping for a volunteer!).

So, #s 11 through 30 are just waiting on the mail from Germany.  In
case you've forgotten who you are (I know it's been a while, but
that's surface mail for you!)

11-15: Jon Stanley, Brad Day, Tyge Spane, Steve Reid, Charlotte Stout
  I expect your CDs to arrive any day now.

16-20: John Stallings, Adam Weitzman, PD Kolb, Mark Frey, Richard
Holdeman

21-25: Alex Billings, Bob Webb, Keith Walker, Chris Larrow, Dale
Plantz

26-30: Nicholas Pinto, David Burdick, George Polly, Dave Krupla, Dave
Brady.

The CDs are being sent in sets of 5, approximately 2 weeks apart.
Thomas thought that this way Customs on both sides of the Atlantic
wouldn't get their panties in a wad.

Anyway, that's the way the CD distribution is shaping up.  Hope this
alleviates some of the confusion.

CUL8R!!

:-) Laura


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) A few questions...
Date: 02 Feb 1998 14:33:39 -0800


    Hey all.  My first question has to do with Antarctica.  Is there any
theme or moral to this song, or is it just a bunch of words strung together?
It is a great song, but I was listening to the lyrics very carefully today
and really tried to comprehend them.  I know, I am putting way to much
effort into a song, but it was interesting.
    Another question to Laura...
    I had put an order in for a T a while back, do you still have a list of
people who asked for one a few months ago?
    Tanx all, catch ya latez

Aaron Gitlin
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Security, everyone feels better with...




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Re: CD Bestellen
Date: 03 Feb 1998 01:59:24 EST


In a message dated 98-02-01 17:17:37 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Pvbmw wrote:
>  >
>  > Wie bestelle Ich CD Von Men Without Hats  Antwort an Pvbmw
>
>  Can someone from the list tell what this means???? I received that by
>  e-mail...
>
>  Thanx
>
>  Claude Gregoire
>
??????
it's greek to *ME*, man...:/
ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Music Awards
Date: 03 Feb 1998 02:12:32 EST


In a message dated 98-02-02 13:27:12 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Congratluations to Ivan for his recent nomination as "Best New Solo Artist"
>  in the CHR catagory (Contemporary Hit Radio) at the upcoming Canadian Radio
>  Music Awards for "Open Your Eyes". He is up against Holly McNarland for
>  "Numb", and Wendy Lands for "Angels & Ordinary Men."
>
>  Best of luck at the awards!
>
>  Kirk
>
wooHOO!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!?
:)

'nuff said!
Char


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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) T list
Date: 03 Feb 1998 09:39:19 +0000


As promised, my fellow hatters, here is the list of T-shirt requests
as I have it recorded as of 9:30 last night.  If your order is
incorrect, please let me know, or if you want to change something.
If I don't hear from you, I will assume that your order is correct as
shown here.

I have 52 shirts listed, so the prices will probably be about the
same as last time.  Let's plan on $12.25 for XLW, $13.25 for XLO and
XXLW, and $14.25 for XXLO.  This includes the T and mailing within
the US.  Outside of the US of course postage will be a bit more.

It's not too late to get in on the Ts - just drop me an email and let
me know size (XL or XXL) and color (W-white or O-roy gold).

These are alpha by first name

Aaron Gitlin 1 XLW
Alain Robillard-Bastien 1 XLW, 1 XLO
Alan Pendleton 2 XXLO
Allan Langfield 1 XLW, 1 XLO
Angie Tooley 1 XLW, 1 XLO

Bill Perrin 2 XLO
Bob Webb 1 XLW, 1 XLO

Charlie Garbowski 1 XLO
Charlotte Stout 2 XXLW, 2 XXLO
Chris Frey 1 XLW
Chris Handshaw 1 XLW
Col @upfields 1 XXLW
Collin Pisarro 1 XLW, 1 XLO

Daniele Rossi 1 XLW

Francis Joanette 1 XLW, 1 XLO

Greg the Shriekman 1 XXLW
Gregor Watson 2 XLO

Howard (freeze@pop) - I will check on yours

Jeff Harding 1 XXLW
Jeff Schachter 1 XXLO

Keith Walker 1 XLW

Myke Carter 2 XLW, 1 XLO

Nicholas Roux 1 XXLO
Nickmeister 1 XLW
Nikolai81 2 XLO

Ray Peterson 1 XLO
Richard Holdman 2 XLW
Rod McQuarrie 2 XLW

Steve Enz 2 XLO
Steve Reid 1 XLW

Tom Norman 1 XLW
Trena Brantley 1 XLO
Tyge Spane 1 XLW, 1 XLO, 1 XXLO






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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Music Awards
Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:26:34 +0100


>"Best New Solo Artist"
ooo - cool!

}:-)
Mike



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From: Charles Farnum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) fav songs
Date: 03 Feb 1998 18:06:16 -0500


i'm still waiting for your responses about your top three favorite MWH
songs so far i have recieved 16 responses out of 200 list members. just
a reminder to get me your choices so i can have them totaled before the
consert this spring

whit


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From: Charles Farnum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) fav songs
Date: 03 Feb 1998 18:06:16 -0500


i'm still waiting for your responses about your top three favorite MWH
songs so far i have recieved 16 responses out of 200 list members. just
a reminder to get me your choices so i can have them totaled before the
consert this spring

whit


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From: Thomas Ullrich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) fav songs
Date: 04 Feb 1998 13:01:06 +0100


Charles Farnum wrote:
>
> i'm still waiting for your responses about your top three favorite MWH
> songs so far i have recieved 16 responses out of 200 list members. just
> a reminder to get me your choices so i can have them totaled before the
> consert this spring
>
> whit


Hi Charles, Hi Hatters!

Best: Safety Dance
2nd Best: Where Do The Boys Go
3rd: I Got The Message (sorry, Tom, but I like it, though it's not so
very creative. It was the 2nd Single after SAFETY DANCE in Germany and
'we love it')

If you want to answer, do it quickly: I'll e-mail again at the end of
this week or on Monday and then again not before the beginning of March!

Thomas
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Boot Update
Date: 04 Feb 1998 08:51:54 +0000


Well I got alot of orders for CDs and they should all ship out in the
next 1-2 days.

All the color artwork is getting printed today and it looks very hot.
I will post what the boots look like on my web site sometime this
week.

-Richard Holdman


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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) T-shirts - I'm getting my act together
Date: 04 Feb 1998 13:51:03 +0000


Hi Hatters!

OK, I'm really going to get my act together this time.   Really!  I
will take orders for the T-shirts through Valentine's Day (Feb 14th,
just in case you don't have a Hallmark Card Store near you), and then
put the order in the following Monday (Feb 16th).  Come one, Come
all!

Everyone who has ordered, start sending your snail-addresses to my
other email address [e-mail]

:-) L8R, T8Rs!

;-) Laura


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From: Rod MacQuarrie <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) You Got The Message
Date: 04 Feb 1998 11:40:00 -0500


Hi all:

It's been quite a while! I had to drop off the list for awhile due to
the fact that a Canadian friend of mine used my email address to enter a
US-only contest and soon after I got spammed to death and had to close
my email account because it couldn't handle the traffic. Well I should
have a new email address within the next couple of weeks that can handle
it so...as Arnold says...I'll be back.

In the meantime...a bit about myself for all of the new folks:

I was born in California and raised in Northern Ontario, Canada...the
Great White North...home of the McKenzie brothers (Take off eh you
hoseheads) and one of my alltime favorite bands - Men Without Hats -
which I got into in the early 80's. I moved down to Michigan in 1985 to
go to University...ended up getting married in 1990 and now have two
children (I'll be 32 in 13 days - no over-the-hill jokes). I just
commented to my wife the other day that it's hard to believe we're at
the end of the 90's when I'm still stuck in 1984. I feel like I'm still
in my early 20's. Anyway...I just got a job as a Project Manager for a
website development company here in Kalamazoo, Michigan which I will
begin in two weeks.

My biggest hobby is music - specifically - synthpop. Most of my CD's
(1000+) and vinyl records (???) are from the 80's - and I will be the
first to admit that I'm sort of stuck in that era. I have my own music
studio in my basement with a few Rickenbacker guitars and over 20 analog
synths and drum machines from the 70's and 80's - some of which are
identical to the one's used on the early MWH albums (i.e. Prophet-5 rev.
2, LinnDrum, Emulator II, etc.) - all controlled via a 200 MHz MacIntosh
computer for sequencing and audio recording. I love the sounds of those
early analog synths and believe that the key to the "synthpop sound" is
the synths they used - a sound which digital synths can't emulate even
today. I now have the capability of burning my own CD's and my "goal" is
to release my own CD before the year 2000 (I'm a perfectionist so I'm
being realistic here). Lately I've been burning alot of my rare vinyl to
CD (Alphaville, Trans-X, A Flock of Seagulls, Church, Railway Children,
etc.) so that's been taking up alot of my time.

My main influences are: MWH (of course), Alphaville, Trans-X, A Flock of
Seagulls, The Cars, Gary Numan (ahh...Polymoogs, Prophet-5's, and
Jupiter-4's), De/Vision, Anything Box, Japan, Roxy Music, early Duran
Duran, early Tears for Fears, and (one of my current favorites) Joy
Electric. I also like guitar-based bands like The Church, The Railway
Children, Cactus World News, Dream Academy, Midnight Oil, House of Love,
etc. and gothic bands like Clan of Xymox, Sisters of Mercy, the Mission,
etc.

My favorite MWH albums are in the order they were released. My favorite
songs are I Got the Message, I Like, and......don't get me started.

Looks like everyone's been keeping quite busy with the new boots and
all. Too bad I missed out on the recent demos...perhaps some kind soul
will be able to copy them for me.

Take care and see you soon

Rod MacQuarrie

PS: What's all of this talk about a spring concert?


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I Got The Message
Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:38:34 -0500



>3rd: I Got The Message (sorry, Tom, but I like it, though it's not so
>very creative. It was the 2nd Single after SAFETY DANCE in Germany and
>'we love it')


I find it interesting how one perosn hates a song while someone else loves
it to pieces! :)  If it wasn't for "I Got The Message", I probably wouldn't
have been a MWH fan today.  I went totally nuts when I heard this song om
the radio.  I just loved the way it sunded.  The beat, the nmusic, the
backup voices did the trick.  I heard it after "The Safety Dance" so I am
puzzled as to why it is referred to as their first single from "Rhythm of
Youth".  Perhaps the single didn't do too well so they re-released it?  The
last time I went nuts was "O Sole Mio" but not as much as "I Got The
Message".  Then I got excited when I heard the clip of "Open Your Eyes"
before I bought the album.

Does anyone else have a MWH song they went nuts over?

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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) favorite song
Date: 04 Feb 1998 18:14:25 -0500


> >3rd: I Got The Message (sorry, Tom, but I like it, though it's not so
> >very creative. It was the 2nd Single after SAFETY DANCE in Germany and
> >'we love it')
>
>
> I find it interesting how one perosn hates a song while someone else
loves
> it to pieces! :)  If it wasn't for "I Got The Message", I probably
wouldn't
> have been a MWH fan today.  I went totally nuts when I heard this song om
> the radio.  I just loved the way it sunded.  The beat, the nmusic, the
> backup voices did the trick.  I heard it after "The Safety Dance" so I am
> puzzled as to why it is referred to as their first single from "Rhythm of
> Youth".  Perhaps the single didn't do too well so they re-released it?
The
> last time I went nuts was "O Sole Mio" but not as much as "I Got The
> Message".  Then I got excited when I heard the clip of "Open Your Eyes"
> before I bought the album.
>
> Does anyone else have a MWH song they went nuts over?

Yes.
Rhythm of Youth blows my mind!!!!!  I can't stop playing that song.  Its
actually my favorite MWH song right now.

For the song poll:

1. Rhythm of Youth
2. Living In China
3. I like

Can I include ROY, even though its a demo song?

I usually can't stand playing ANY song over and over again, ROY is my first
exception.  I can't beleive that I can't get tired of this one.

Tom
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From: "Russ Kemsley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) favorite song
Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:34:47 -0800


> Does anyone else have a MWH song they went nuts over?

I know this may sound strange, but "Mother's Opinion" makes me cry from time
to time. It's hard to describe, but it does. Not in a sad way, but in a
"this song touches my soul" way.

And if we're including the demos then I have to place Treblinka in 2nd
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Subject: Re: (hats) I Got The Message
Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:55:47 EST


In a message dated 98-02-04 15:36:39 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> I find it interesting how one perosn hates a song while someone else loves
>  it to pieces! :)  If it wasn't for "I Got The Message", I probably wouldn't
>  have been a MWH fan today.  I went totally nuts when I heard this song om
>  the radio.  I just loved the way it sunded.  The beat, the nmusic, the
>  backup voices did the trick.  I heard it after "The Safety Dance" so I am
>  puzzled as to why it is referred to as their first single from "Rhythm of
>  Youth".  Perhaps the single didn't do too well so they re-released it?  The
>  last time I went nuts was "O Sole Mio" but not as much as "I Got The
>  Message".  Then I got excited when I heard the clip of "Open Your Eyes"
>  before I bought the album.
>
>  Does anyone else have a MWH song they went nuts over?
>

For me, this one's a tie between "Antarctica" and "Ideas for Walls".
The guitar in "Antarctica" and the choppy keyboard just made it sound so dark
and powerful, while the lyrics smoothed it all out.

"Ideas for Walls"... That one just flat out makes me wanna "...ideas for
wahahooahahooahaoolls!!". It makes almost no sense yet it drives me want to
turn it up really loud and ignore reality for the short few minutes. The keys
in that song will also grabbed me.

Well, that's 2 centavos de mi.
And I... I feel like...
--Nick


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Subject: Re: (hats) I Got The Message
Date: 05 Feb 1998 00:05:41 EST


In a message dated 98-02-04 15:36:39 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  >3rd: I Got The Message (sorry, Tom, but I like it, though it's not so
>  >very creative. It was the 2nd Single after SAFETY DANCE in Germany and
>  >'we love it')
>
>
>  I find it interesting how one perosn hates a song while someone else loves
>  it to pieces! :)  If it wasn't for "I Got The Message", I probably wouldn't
>  have been a MWH fan today.  I went totally nuts when I heard this song om
>  the radio.  I just loved the way it sunded.  The beat, the nmusic, the
>  backup voices did the trick.  I heard it after "The Safety Dance" so I am
>  puzzled as to why it is referred to as their first single from "Rhythm of
>  Youth".  Perhaps the single didn't do too well so they re-released it?  The
>  last time I went nuts was "O Sole Mio" but not as much as "I Got The
>  Message".  Then I got excited when I heard the clip of "Open Your Eyes"
>  before I bought the album.
>
>  Does anyone else have a MWH song they went nuts over?
>
it would have to be tracks 2,3, and...um...9, i believe (in the name of
angels)
and now i have all this brill old stuff to catch up on, eh? ;)
and, for the record, I Got The Message is one of the sweetest songs i've ever
heard:)
so THERE!  >:P~.*'@
ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) I Got The Message
Date: 05 Feb 1998 00:13:44 +0000


Daniele Rossi wrote:
>
> Does anyone else have a MWH song they went nuts over?

I have several of those I guess...

Take care

Claude


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) AUGH!!?!??!??!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 05 Feb 1998 00:16:08 EST


YEOUWCH!!?!
 to my horror, i have discovered that, as an indirect (or direct...who CARES
at  THIS point!) result of my roomie replacing his hard drive, all my fave
places addresses (mostly MWH) have vanished.....

*muy pouty face >:(*

can someone please forward me the FAQ or site index addresses so that i may
update for future access?
purty please?  <:)

thanks, Charlotte


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From: Steve Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Are We Still Introducing Ourselves?
Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:37:01 -0500


Sorry for the delay, but we're trying to release some software here at
work and I have not had much time until now to send anything in.  I am
listed briefly on the who's who page.  There, I credit myself as being one
of the two cofounders of the Atlanta Chapter of the Men Without Hats
Fanclub.  Mr. Brad Day is the other cofounder.  In fact, we're the only
two members.  Feel free to stop in if you're ever in Atlanta.  Just give
us some advance warning.

Like so many others, I got hooked on MWH in my early teens.  I used to
work in my room with ROY on the turntable repeating over and over and
over.  One side at a time, of course.  I don't know how my parents could
take it (unless, of course, they saw the genius behind the music, too!).

Bought PGTW on cassette (and later on CD).  Loved it.  The first time I
saw the 21c. disc in the store I bought it, even though I did not know
that MWH had another disc out.  Also like many others, I constantly comb
through the "M" section of music stores to try to find one of those
elusive ROY CDs.

Thanks to this wonderful list, I have obtained the 2-4-1, Sideways, and
The Spell -- items I would never have known existed otherwise.  Everyone
here is very caring and supportive, and even though I don't contribute a
whole lot in the grand scheme of things, I always look forward to
receiving the next digest.

Yes, I am on the digest-version of the list, which is why I missed out on
the original pressing of the FPDs (Fan Produced Discs).  I'm still
interested, and will be in contact with Mr. Holdman shortly.  I think this
will be one purchase that I won't clear through my wife (and if you tell
her I said that, I'll deny it! :-).

Since I don't write too often, I don't feel bad about sending in a
novella...

My personal information:  I'm 28 and married (just under 1.5 years).  No
kids, just a cat, which my wife brought into the marriage.  We get along
fine now.  We bought a house almost a year ago, and I have taken to
gardening (vegetable, not flower).  [I'm planning on trying to grow
potatoes this season.  Last year I think I harvested over 300 cucumbers,
most of which were as big or bigger than what you see in a grocery store.
 We gave away most of them, ate lots of cucumber sandwiches, and let some
rot (which was VERY unfortunate :-( ]  I play indoor soccer, which I love.
 I play the saxophone, but only once a year or so.  I've been trying to
teach myself how to play the piano, with little success.  Currently, I'm
taking German classes (no, I can't translate the message about MWH, even
though it looked German).  In the future, I hope to have a wood-working
shop which rivals Norm's -- and I hope to know how to use it!  I'm slowly
acquiring the tools...

Brad and I have gotten together for lunch on a few occasions.  We don't
work anywhere near each other, so we don't meet that frequently.  I keep
meaning to send in the minutes of our lunch meetings, but never remember
to. (So did you get a new car yet, Brad?)

Apart from MWH, my musical tastes vary widely.  I'm also on the Simple
Minds mailing list (the only other mailing list that I'm on).  I like (in
stream-of-consciousness order) Front 242, Depeche Mode, Kate Bush, Pet
Shop Boys, Erasure, Rush...  I'm starting to listen more to public radio
now, however.  Count me in the group that tells their grandkids, "there's
nothing like the music of the '80s."  My jazz collection is also starting
to grow.

OK, I'll call it quits here.  If you've made it this far, thanks for
reading.  Drop me a line sometime, and I'll try to get back to you in a
reasonable amount of time.  Also, for any German members of this list:
 I'm planning a trip to Germany sometime this year, and would like
suggestions on where to go, where to stay, etc.  Private e-mail is
requested.

Thank you,

Steve
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Men without Heads
Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:57:38 +0000


I was just think of my of my first CD I ever got. My mom got me the
pop goes the world album for me for christmas. I remember opening it
and it was in one of those long boxes they use to package cds in.

What was funny about it is she kept think that band was called Men
without heads.

I dont know why I am telling you all this but I thought it was kind
of funny.

-Richard


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I need MWH Video Material
Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:03:30 +0000


I want to make a CD with boots 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 (When 4,6,7
come out ) converted to mp3 and a few MWH videos. After I get it done
I plan on making it available to the list. You will have to use your
computer and play back the mp3s and the video clips.

Anyway the problem is I dont have any MWH videos. Anybody still out
that wants to make me a copy of some video material? I will pay for
whatever the costs are, or is you want I can mail it back to you
after I make myself a copy.

These videos will also be available on the MWH Archive at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

-Richard Holdman
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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Men without Heads
Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:11:50 -0800 (PST)



>
> I was just think of my of my first CD I ever got. My mom got me the
> pop goes the world album for me for christmas. I remember opening it
> and it was in one of those long boxes they use to package cds in.
>
> What was funny about it is she kept think that band was called Men
> without heads.
>
> I dont know why I am telling you all this but I thought it was kind
> of funny.
>
> -Richard

That's *sort* of similar to something that happened to me in college.
The following is a true story...

I was part of a group of guys who loved to play practical jokes on each
other. My friend Steve knew how much I loved MWH... I played my "Rhythm Of
Youth" and "Fot80III" tapes non-stop.

One day I was in my room. I grabbed my "Fot80III" tape and popped it in the
player. Steve came sauntering into my room and plopped down on a chair. I
was busying looking for something on my cluttered desk and was unthinkingly
replying to the questions he was asking me.

He asked me, "Who is this?" (playing on the tape player)
"Men Without Hats."
"That's a weird name. Are you sure?"
"Yes. I've told you about them a million times."
"I don't believe you."
"What do you mean?"
"'Men Without *Hats*'... that's not a band name."
At this point I stopped my search, and grabbed the tape case. "Yes, it is,
see, it say so right he..."

And I froze. Placed over the red/black "no hats" logo on the tape case was
a similar logo, with a large penis where the head/hat should be. And over
the word "Hats" in the band name logo, the word "Dicks" had been placed, on
a white sheet of paper, copied in the same font.

And Steve said, "Are you sure they're not Men Without Dicks?"

And I spent a good fifteen minutes chasing his laughing ass up and down the
halls of the dorm.

I was furious then, but MAN! is it funny when I look back on it now. He got
me but good.

=============================================================================
Don2
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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Pop Goes The World CD Packaging
Date: 05 Feb 1998 18:18:20 -0500 (EST)


Richard,

I bought my PGTW CD the day after I saw MWH perform at the Cains in
Tulsa; May 5, 1988.  http://people.delphi.com/mykec/hats88.htm

Mine didn't come in a box but rather in one of those nasty ol'
plastic "bubble-pak" constructs.  Inside it was a 12"x4" card
with the PGTW cover art on it.  It made me mad that I hadn't bought
it before the previous night's show because I had been able to
get Ivan's autograph on both my Statik copy of RoY during the show
and on my Fot80III LP cover during the afterparty at SRO.

Needless to say, I've still got the PGTW CD card insert and it is
still unsigned by Ivan.  I do intend to be at the Private Ivan
concert in Montreal this summer and I'll definitely be bringing
it with me - along with everything else I've got that would look
good with bandmembers' autographs scribbled all over them!  ;-)

Myke


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) A Men Without Hats Revelation
Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:49:32 -0500 (EST)


    Ok...

        I don't know if people knew this before or not....

    But, I was just listening to Ideas for Walls and,  something just
struck me. Now, some of you may have recognized this, but I guarantee a
majority have not.
-------------------
    In the song...the lines read

A little "m" for the mirror
A "w" for the wall
To make things perfectly clear
A great big "h" in the hall.

Now...put those three quoted letters together and you get...

            MWH



I'm not some kid that goes disecting songs or anything but, I found this
interesting and wondered if people like Tom or Laura knew anything about
this.

Collin

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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD#4 ready to go
Date: 05 Feb 1998 19:14:37 -0500


Greetings,
I have just got more supplys for more CDs.  I also have CD#4 which is ready
to go.  I am sending the first of #4 to Richard Holdman.

Now, if Richard isn't already making you CDs, and you still want some,
please e-mail me now, telling me what you don't have already -- CDs
1,2,3,4,5 are all ready to go.   I just want to get an idea of how many I
need to make of each.

CD#4 is fantastic.


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) A Men Without Hats Revelation
Date: 05 Feb 1998 20:46:10 -0500



>A little "m" for the mirror
>A "w" for the wall
>To make things perfectly clear
>A great big "h" in the hall.
>
>Now...put those three quoted letters together and you get...
>
>

cool!!! I'll look at the lyrics and see if anything that comes up!

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From: Jeff Schachter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) wow
Date: 05 Feb 1998 21:30:07 -0500



>        I don't know if people knew this before or not....
>    In the song...the lines read
>
[...snip...]
>Now...put those three quoted letters together and you get...
>
>            MWH

Cool!   I've been listening to that song since 1983 and never once noticed
that.  Too busy listening to the melody and the bass line I guess (or just
really thick).

If anyone is still tabulating, I'll use this opportunity to vote for my
favorite MWH song.  "Ideas for Walls".  Now even more favorite than before
because of this nifty observation that eluded me for so many years.

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Subject: Re: (hats) Are We Still Introducing Ourselves?
Date: 05 Feb 1998 22:01:44 EST


In a message dated 98-02-05 08:38:49 EST, Steve wrote:

<< Sorry for the delay, but we're trying to release some software here at
 work and I have not had much time until now to send anything in.  I am
 listed briefly on the who's who page.  There, I credit myself as being one
 of the two cofounders of the Atlanta Chapter of the Men Without Hats
 Fanclub.  Mr. Brad Day is the other cofounder.  In fact, we're the only
 two members.  Feel free to stop in if you're ever in Atlanta.  Just give
 us some advance warning.
  >>
That's right, Steve!!!!!

The Atlanta Chapter always welcomes guests and new members!!!!!    =]

Brad Day
Atlanta, GA


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From: Charles Garbowski <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) radio show
Date: 03 Feb 1998 17:58:51 -0500 (EST)


Just thought I'd let the list know that even though I tend to be primarily
an observer on the list I am doing my best to spread the joy of MWH.  I am
part of a morning show that reaches Northern Chautauqua County in NY and
every Tuesday they are going to let me do a retro-80's day in which I will
try to have a mystery band as well as other 80's music.  Today (which was
the first show) of course the mystery band was...oh, do I even have to say
it...MWH!  I asked people to call in when they knew the name of the band
and sure enough when I played The Safety Dance (the last MWH song I was
going to play before I gave their name away) someone called in and won
themselves a CD.  Congrats to Ivan on his Canadian success.

Dancing with a cold head in Fredonia, NY
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From: Charles Garbowski <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) End of the world
Date: 05 Feb 1998 21:00:24 -0500 (EST)



I don't know about going "nuts" over "End of the World" but there is
something about it that makes me very subdued and introspective and
nostalgic.  Does that happen to anyone else when listening to the song?

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) A Men Without Hats Revelation
Date: 06 Feb 1998 08:12:59 -0500 (EST)


Wow, Collin!  I feel like a compleat goober now.

I've been listening to "Ideas..." since I bought the RoY LP in 1986 and
never noticed that.  (Doh!)

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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) A Men Without Hats Revelation
Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:43:20 -0500 (EST)


Isn't it strange... MWH in Idea for walls?  I love it.  I really love it!
Did I mention that I love it?!?  Ivan and crew never ceases to amaze me.
The moment you get them figured out, they change again.... or something
you never realized, so blatently obvious, comes to light.  Three cheers
for MWH and for those of you who find this obscure stuff!

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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) End of the world
Date: 06 Feb 1998 07:34:00 -0800 (PST)



> I don't know about going "nuts" over "End of the World" but there is
> something about it that makes me very subdued and introspective and
> nostalgic.  Does that happen to anyone else when listening to the song?
>
> Charlie
>
The entire "Pop Goes The World" album came out at a time where things in
my life (no pun intended) were... "unfolding" around me, for want of a
better word.

It was slowly dawning on me that my long-time relationship was a sham,
that I was indeed deeply in love with someone so powerfully wonderful that
I was frightened by the depth of the emotion involved, a close friend and I
were on the outs (for reasons to this day I can't remember), I realized that my
extended childhood in academia was starting to draw to a close, and my
father's illness brought to my attention that my parents were so much *older*
than I remembered.

And then "Pop Goes The World" came out. "On Tuesday", "O Sole Mio", "In
The Name Of Angels"... and "The End Of The World". A handful of perfect
songs that reflected a lot of facets of my life.

To this day, I still feel that "The End Of The World" is the most perfect
album-ending song that's ever been written. On its own, it doesn't have the
impact that is has after listening to the entirety of the "Pop Goes The
World" album.

Anyway, that's what it means to me.

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) End of the world
Date: 06 Feb 1998 10:43:19 -0500 (EST)


Don,

I understand your reasons why you would think "End of the World" is
the best ever album-ending song, but I would have to say I think it's
tied with "A Day In The Life".  Maybe Ivan would be proud to know that
a song of his is in such good company!

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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) booted in the leg
Date: 06 Feb 1998 08:51:21 +0000


> Cool :) - It is nice to feel important :)
>
> I have artwork for about 20 more of each CD 1,2,3,5
>
> So far I have sent out about 30 cds to 10 different people.
>
> I still have plenty left so if anybody else wants 1,2,3,5 let me
> know.
>
> -Richard Holdman
>
> > Now, if Richard isn't already making you CDs, and you still want
> > some, please e-mail me now, telling me what you don't have already
> > -- CDs 1,2,3,4,5 are all ready to go.   I just want to get an idea
> > of how many I need to make of each.
> >
> > CD#4 is fantastic.
> >
> >
> > Tom
> > [e-mail]


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) End of the world
Date: 06 Feb 1998 08:53:09 +0000


Last time I went nuts I hurt myself and 10 others

-Richard

>
> I don't know about going "nuts" over "End of the World" but there is
> something about it that makes me very subdued and introspective and
> nostalgic.  Does that happen to anyone else when listening to the song?
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Help? For the Language Impaired
Date: 06 Feb 1998 10:42:39 EST


Some of the biggest MWH fans out there may speak French as their primary
language.  Occassionally there are French postings and translation reques=
ts on
the list.  There is a neat little translator at=20
http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate =20
that can do English to French/Italian/German/Portugese and vice-versa.   =
I,
being mono-lingual, don't have any idea how well it works, but it sure is=
 kind
of fun!
Heres what it came up with for PGTW:

Le bruit va le monde, par des chapeaux d'Men Without que 1. bruit d'Intro=
 2.
va le monde 3. du c=F4t=E9 intelligent de mardi 4. du soleil 5. O million=
s de 6.
uniques s'=E9garent 7. le vrai monde 8. Moonbeam 9. au nom des anges 10. =
La
Valese d'Eugenie 11. La bourrique a port=E9 la promenade du noir 12, sur =
l'eau
13, l'extr=E9mit=E9 du monde=20

Have Fun!
PDK


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From: "Moody, Danny M." <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (hats) Help? For the Language Impaired
Date: 06 Feb 1998 11:14:43 -0600


On Friday, 06 February 1998 09:43, [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
wrote:
> There is a neat little translator at=20
> http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate =20
> that can do English to French/Italian/German/Portugese and =
vice-versa.
>   I,
> being mono-lingual, don't have any idea how well it works, but it =
sure
is
> kind
> of fun!

This is a fun toy, but not much else.  The translations are quite
atrocious, and often times outright wrong.  Still, it is a good insight
into the problems of machine-translation.

> Heres what it came up with for PGTW:
>=20
> Le bruit va le monde, par des chapeaux d'Men Without que 1. bruit
d'Intro
> 2.
> va le monde 3. du c=F4t=E9 intelligent de mardi 4. du soleil 5. O =
millions
de
> 6.
> uniques s'=E9garent 7. le vrai monde 8. Moonbeam 9. au nom des anges =
10.
> La
> Valese d'Eugenie 11. La bourrique a port=E9 la promenade du noir 12, =
sur
> l'eau
> 13, l'extr=E9mit=E9 du monde=20

Running this back through the French->English translator, it comes out
as:

The noise goes the world, by caps of Men Without that 1. noise of Intro
2. goes world 3. intelligent side of Tuesday 4. sun 5. O million 6.
single are mislaid 7. true world 8. Moonbeam 9. in the name of angels
10. Valese d' Eugenie 11. The she-ass carried the walk of black 12, on
water 13, the end of the world=20

Not *quite* what went in, but most of the problem seems to have been
with the original English->French conversions, especially 'La =
bourrique'
for Jenny...

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    1. I Know Their Names
    2. Living In China
    3. Security

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) The she-ass carried the walk of black
Date: 06 Feb 1998 12:24:35 -0500 (EST)


Y'all de howdy!

(The English-to-French translator taught me that!)

Myke


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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) music to go nuts by...
Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:33:32 +0000


Hi Hatters!

The first time I ever heard "You and Me," I just sat there listening
with tears rolling silently down my cheeks.  I think it's a very
powerful song.

Also, the first time I heard the clip from "Open Your Eyes," I got
all goose-bumpy.

CUL8R!!

Remember to order your Tshirts!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) I need MWH Video Material
Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:34:22 EST


In a message dated 98-02-05 16:05:55 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  I want to make a CD with boots 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 (When 4,6,7
>  come out ) converted to mp3 and a few MWH videos. After I get it done
>  I plan on making it available to the list. You will have to use your
>  computer and play back the mp3s and the video clips.
>
>  Anyway the problem is I dont have any MWH videos. Anybody still out
>  that wants to make me a copy of some video material? I will pay for
>  whatever the costs are, or is you want I can mail it back to you
>  after I make myself a copy.
>
>  These videos will also be available on the MWH Archive at
>  http://www.holdman.com/mwh
>
>  -Richard Holdman
>  "Excuse me sir, can you tell me how to get to the real world"
>
>
hmmm...i'm still trying to figure out how to get ahold of the jenny wore
black/white and *i THINK!* o sole mio videos...there were FOUR songs featured
on the PGTW video EP...and only two of them made it onto the fan-based
video......SOMEBODY has GOT to have this video tape!!?!?
i will not rest till i find this!
*btw, where IS wagner when a valkerie REALLY NEEDS him!!?!*
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Subject: Re: (hats) Help? For the Language Impaired
Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:45:35 EST


In a message dated 98-02-06 11:49:41 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> Le bruit va le monde, par des chapeaux d'Men Without que 1. bruit d'Intro 2.
>  va le monde 3. du c⌠tΘ intelligent de mardi 4. du soleil 5. O millions de
6.
>  uniques s'Θgarent 7. le vrai monde 8. Moonbeam 9. au nom des anges 10. La
>  Valese d'Eugenie 11. La bourrique a portΘ la promenade du noir 12, sur
l'eau
>  13, l'extrΘmitΘ du monde
>
something about cats eating turnips:/
*???*


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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Official MWH Videos?
Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:46:47 -0500 (EST)


I was unaware that any of the Mirror Wall Hall videos had ever been
released commercially.  What beyond this elusive PGTW video EP is there?

Myke


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Subject: Re: (hats) Help? For the Language Impaired
Date: 06 Feb 1998 13:47:27 EST


In a message dated 98-02-06 12:16:36 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> The noise goes the world, by caps of Men Without that 1. noise of Intro
>  2. goes world 3. intelligent side of Tuesday 4. sun 5. O million 6.
>  single are mislaid 7. true world 8. Moonbeam 9. in the name of angels
>  10. Valese d' Eugenie 11. The she-ass carried the walk of black 12, on
>  water 13, the end of the world
>
i like THIS one better:)
especially track #11


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Another BBC recording?
Date: 06 Feb 1998 14:42:11 -0500


I was looking at this week's Goldmine magazine and found a listing of a BBC
radio show (concert) called "BBC Rock Hour".  I wonder if it is the same as
the other BBC record.  This one has Big Country, Eurythmics, and Culture
Club.  Actually, now that I think of it, I wonder if this is a live record. :)

If you want to buy it, I can list the vendor (I never dealt with them so I
don't know if they rip people off or if they give great service):

David Tyson
208 Barshay Drive
Summerville, SC
29483  USA

phone [phone]
fax [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]
$4 postage
oh yes, the album costs $20


A little favour to ask the European members...can anyone help me find a copy
of a concert video by Spandau Ballet?  It's called "Over Britain".  I saw a
listing of it in "Goldmine" as a laserdisc but I assume it is also available
on video cassette.  I can purchase PAL tapes because my VCR plays both PAL
and NTSC.

Thanks!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) m w h
Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:46:58 EST


M:  Men for the Mirror- the woman who when he looks through her eyes at
himself, he sees how he is.

W:  Without Walls - the barriers around our minds, hearts and souls that stop
us from being who we truly are inside. placed there by our parents, our peers,
society in general, and our own hidden fears and insecurities. ("it's long,
it's hard- we hit our heads against the walls")

H:  Hats are Halls: Hallways are narrow closed-in methods of perceiving what
is presented to us- a narrow viewpoint, an extremely limited method of
interpreting love and reality.  Hats of course are the rings around our
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) does anyone know?
Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:37:58 EST


does anyone perchance know Ivan's birthdate?


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) BBC recording
Date: 06 Feb 1998 20:59:17 +0100


>I was looking at this week's Goldmine magazine and found a listing of a BBC
>radio show (concert) called "BBC Rock Hour".  I wonder if it is the same as
>the other BBC record.  This one has Big Country, Eurythmics, and Culture
>Club.  Actually, now that I think of it, I wonder if this is a live
>record. :)
this is one of the boots I just mastered - I think its no 4!!!

}:-)
Mike



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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan's Birthday
Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:16:58 -0500 (EST)


Both Ivan and Sean Ono Lennon were born on the same day - but in
different years, obviously.

Myke


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) End of the world
Date: 06 Feb 1998 20:59:19 +0100


>I understand your reasons why you would think "End of the World" is
>the best ever album-ending song, but I would have to say I think it's
>tied with "A Day In The Life".  Maybe Ivan would be proud to know that
>a song of his is in such good company!
>
>Myke
well ppl, you aint heard my album yet!!!  Its due out in the summer so
listen out for the last track - it might make you all smile!!!!!

}:-)
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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) does anyone know?
Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:30:50 +0000


Hi Hatters!

> does anyone perchance know Ivan's birthdate?

October 9, 1957 (since he said in December 1997 at the chat that he's
40).

Claude, is the year in the FAQ?  Or just the month and day?

:-) L8R, T8Rs!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Official MWH Videos?
Date: 06 Feb 1998 23:39:30 EST


In a message dated 98-02-06 13:49:36 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  I was unaware that any of the Mirror Wall Hall videos had ever been
>  released commercially.  What beyond this elusive PGTW video EP is there?
>
>  Myke
>
okie...my next trip to Virgin MS, i will look this up in their computer *i've
done it before, which is how i found listings for all the video tracks and the
distributor *Music Shack*, as well as the sad fact that it is out of print:/
we shall soon find out the truth...
ttyl,
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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Official MWH Videos?
Date: 06 Feb 1998 23:43:25 -0500 (EST)


Thanks Charlotte!  Get to the bottom of this for us!

Myke


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Music Awards
Date: 06 Feb 1998 18:31:19 -0500 (EST)





> Congratluations to Ivan for his recent nomination as "Best New Solo Artist"
> in the CHR catagory (Contemporary Hit Radio) at the upcoming Canadian Radio
> Music Awards for "Open Your Eyes".



Does anybody know when this awards night is?

Collin



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From: Kerry Gordon 1-4 The Vine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Much Spotlight
Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:11:58 -0800


Did anyone record the Spotlight on Men Without Hats on Much Music
Thursday Feb.5/98? Apparently they aired most or all of their videos.

Kerry Gordon - Toronto
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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Official MWH Videos?
Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:08:18 -0500 (EST)


> Nice.
> I was laughing when I read this.

Good!  I was hoping somebody would see the humour.

> Do you know how many people have no clue what you're talking about...

No.  Um, 42?  :-)

(The Great Ones Know.)

Myke


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Subject: Re: (hats) Official MWH Videos?
Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:11:47 EST


In a message dated 98-02-06 23:45:01 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Thanks Charlotte!  Get to the bottom of this for us!
>
>  Myke
>
>
in the words of Troy McClure:  "It's the part I was born to play, baby!"

ttyl,
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From: Kerry Gordon 1-4 The Vine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Much Spotlight
Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:31:55 -0800


I couldn't find MWH or Ivan listed in the Much Music Spotlight for
February but my wife told me that our son was watching MWH's videos when
he was home from school sick on Thursday Feb. 5th. Our son knows the
band because Ivan used to play him when he was a baby and he calls him
"Uncle Ivan" but, we haven't seen him in years.
I didn't see anything on the list about this. I assumed it was Much
Music but, maybe not. My son said they had interviews with Ivan and
played his videos. Maybe he was a guest on a talk show?

Kerry Gordon - Toronto
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Subject: Re: (hats) Official MWH Videos?
Date: 07 Feb 1998 20:36:48 EST


In a message dated 98-02-07 18:49:31 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  if you guys are talking about the p.g.t.w. cd-video i have it and the songs
> are
>
>  pop goes the world (video)
>  pop goes the world
>  jenny wore black
>  end of the world
>  lose my way. but not in that order.
>
>  dale
>
>
???
is this an enhanced cd?
what i am referring to is an actual VHS videotape...:/
ttyl,
Charlotte

p.s: the tracks featured sound about right, though....i will check my store's
computer and find out once and for all...*unless i can find the copy i made
for myself when i originally found it to being with...d'OH!!?!*


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Much Spotlight
Date: 07 Feb 1998 21:36:36 -0500


>band because Ivan used to play him when he was a baby and he calls him
>"Uncle Ivan" but, we haven't seen him in years.

That's an interesting piece of info! :)  He used to sing to your son, how
sweet. Did he use a synthesizer?  ;)

>I didn't see anything on the list about this. I assumed it was Much
>Music but, maybe not. My son said they had interviews with Ivan and
>played his videos. Maybe he was a guest on a talk show?

That is interesting.  Maybe he was in the studio before or after the
spotlight talking about his solo career.

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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Much Spotlight
Date: 07 Feb 1998 21:36:34 -0500



>Did anyone record the Spotlight on Men Without Hats on Much Music
>Thursday Feb.5/98? Apparently they aired most or all of their videos.


AAAAUUUGGGGHHHH!!! And just the day before that I made a mental note to
check MuchMusic's site to see their schedule for upcoming spotlights!

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Online Comic Book
http://www.interlog.com/~daniele

883 Fan Page...dal Canada?
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Achoo?
Date: 08 Feb 1998 01:46:00 -0500 (EST)


Has anybody else noticed that Ivan seems to sneeze at the very end
of "Jenny Wore Black" during the Le Spectrum concert video?  I was
watching it tonight and just happened to notice that he raises his
hand and ducks downward just before the lights go out.  Man, I thought,
that would have really sucked if he'd had to sneeze while the camera
was right on him.  It's hard to tell exactly what happened but if it
was a sneeze he sure concealed it well.

This isn't something really important.  I just noticed and wondered
about it.

Myke


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) NEbody out there?
Date: 07 Feb 1998 22:50:22 -0800


Well, the list is awfully quiet recently...
NEway, I was curious about one  thing...What nationality is Ivans last name?
Catch ya latez!


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Subject: Re: (hats) NEbody out there?
Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:16:37 EST


In a message dated 98-02-08 01:54:16 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> Well, the list is awfully quiet recently...
>  NEway, I was curious about one  thing...What nationality is Ivans last
name?
>  Catch ya latez!
>
i'd say either french, german, or slavic......but i'm no linguist expert:/
anyone else care to take a stab?
ttyl
Charlotte


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Subject: Re: (hats) NEbody out there?
Date: 08 Feb 1998 12:59:14 -0800


a good friend of mine looked at the name today, and said it was most likely
Cossak or Polish.  Another member of the list said it might be Ukrainian.  I
guess I answered my own question.  Catch ya all latez.


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From: Vince Silvaggio <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan's nationality
Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:25:50 -0500


Hey, fellow Hatters!

I'm 99% sure that Ivan's ancestors are Ukrainian.  From the Ukraine.

Til next time,
Vince



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From: Ralph Deiterding <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Looking for Si!
Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:04:14 +0000


Sorry to bother the list with this but...

I'm looking for Si Wooldridge!!   I've sent three mail messages to you
and they keep getting bounced back to me!! What's up??

Send me an e-mail!!

Ralph


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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:38:06 -0500 (EST)


        Ukranian?  That sounds right.  Polish, that doesn't sound
right.  German... definately not, Ukaranian... that sounds right.

Nathan




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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Hat with Lars???
Date: 09 Feb 1998 17:04:32 +0100


Is Lars from Norway still on this list???  If he is and is reading
this...  "hello!  I've found that rare Yazoo BBC recording - the full
version!!  Mail me direct".  To the rest of you please ignore - unless
you want a copy of the Yazoo BBC recording if the '82 gig - bootlegs r
us!  :)


Mike, your London correspondent...

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From: Fehnnik Foxtaur <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) RE:  Ivan's nationality
Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:50:56 -0700


>>I'm 99% sure that Ivan's ancestors are Ukrainian.  From the Ukraine.

That raises one question that I'm curious about.  Exactly how is Ivan's last name pronounced?

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Subject: Re: (hats) RE:  Ivan's nationality
Date: 10 Feb 1998 00:36:04 -0800


-->
>That raises one question that I'm curious about.  Exactly how is Ivan's
last name pronounced?
>
My friend pronounced it
"Dodroshuuk" - i am not good at spelling out phonetics.  if you kinda get
the jist of that, well, than you got it.


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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) 2-fers update
Date: 10 Feb 1998 08:49:22 +0000


Hi Hatters!

The next set of 2-fers has arrived!  Whee!!!!!!

Hopefully, that means the next set of 5 will be arriving in about 2
weeks.

Plus, through the kindness of Carl "Mr. Oglio" and Mike "da Moose" in
England, we will be able to get another 30 2-fers.  So  do not
despair!  The Carl-Mikey-Laura Import Export store is in business!!
Email me to reserve a 2-fer and get more details. . .

:-) Laura


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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) 2-fers update
Date: 10 Feb 1998 09:31:49 -0500 (EST)


2 Fers!






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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) the old one remembers
Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:23:24 +0000


Happy birthday to Bill Perrin from all his fellow hatters!


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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) pro-noun-see-ate-ing
Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:28:57 +0000


Hi Hatters!

Maybe someone in the know, like Francis, Claude, or Kerry, can fill
us in on how to pronounce Ivan's last name.  I'd always kinda
wondered where the accent went?

DOR o shuk?  do RO shuk?  doro SHUK? etc.

Since my maiden last names are collectively 18 letters long, and
Russian and German (containing bizzare dipthongs and umlauts and
things that go bump in the night), I'm very sensitive about
mispronouncing people's last names.  Which is why I'm glad he just
goes by IVAN!  *That* I can manage!!!!  :-)

L8R, T8Rs!
;-) L



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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) IVAN PRONOUNCE
Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:41:16 -0500 (EST)



Let's see, Ivan... how do you pronounce that?
EYE-VAN or is it EIVE-VUN or is it AYE-VON? :-)

BY the way, all you industrial turkey's out there, I sent out the Walling
For Dead Folk stuff yesterday.  It's on it's way....


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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Promo pack from Ivan?
Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:38:15 -0800 (PST)


Did anyone who ever tried to contact Martine at Tox Records ever
receive their Ivan promo pack?

I didn't... or haven't yet.

Just wondering...

=============================================================================
Don2
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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Promo pack from Ivan?
Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:58:21 +0000


Donald Stroud wrote:
>
> Did anyone who ever tried to contact Martine at Tox Records ever
> receive their Ivan promo pack?
>
> I didn't... or haven't yet.
>
> Just wondering...

Hi Donald!

I think shipping of the promo packs is scheduled for right after the
update of Ivan's tour dates on the TOX web site... ;o))))))))

Take care all

Claude


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From: Vince Silvaggio <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Pronunciation
Date: 10 Feb 1998 17:23:25 -0500


Hey, fellow Hatters!  I believe Ivan's last name is pronounced...

DOR'a'shuk...

...for all of you wondering.

Vince



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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Promo pack from Ivan?
Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:46:20 -0800 (PST)


> > >
> > > Did anyone who ever tried to contact Martine at Tox Records ever
> > > receive their Ivan promo pack?
> >
> >
> > I think shipping of the promo packs is scheduled for right after the
> > update of Ivan's tour dates on the TOX web site... ;o))))))))
> >
> > Claude
> >

AAARRRGH! That's what I thought.

Sigh. Between this promo pack, and waiting for The Artist's "Crystal
Ball" to be shipped to me, I think I'm going to go CRAZY!!!!!

=============================================================================
Don2
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   1998: THE YEAR OF GODZILLA   [May 20, 1998]


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Subject: Re: (hats) A Men Without Hats Revelation
Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:03:46 EST


In a message dated 98-02-06 09:47:28 EST, Nathan writes:

> Isn't it strange... MWH in Idea for walls?  I love it.  I really love it!
>  Did I mention that I love it?!?  Ivan and crew never ceases to amaze me.
>  The moment you get them figured out, they change again.... or something
>  you never realized, so blatently obvious, comes to light.  Three cheers
>  for MWH and for those of you who find this obscure stuff!

Isn't it strange? Isn't it just like them to change again...?

--Nick


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Subject: Re: (hats) m w h
Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:16:17 EST


In a message dated 98-02-06 16:01:39 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> M:  Men for the Mirror- the woman who when he looks through her eyes at
>  himself, he sees how he is.
>
>  W:  Without Walls - the barriers around our minds, hearts and souls that
> stop
>  us from being who we truly are inside. placed there by our parents, our
> peers,
>  society in general, and our own hidden fears and insecurities. ("it's long,
>  it's hard- we hit our heads against the walls")
>
>  H:  Hats are Halls: Hallways are narrow closed-in methods of perceiving
what
>  is presented to us- a narrow viewpoint, an extremely limited method of
>  interpreting love and reality.  Hats of course are the rings around our
>  brains, the walls- stopping us from seeing what is really there!
>
Nick <-- is moved!


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) off the topic
Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:37:03 -0800


...THis has nothing to do w/ MWH but...
I am doing a flyer for a school clu and I need a picture of a slice of
pizza.  if anyone has one PLEASE send me one!  thanx much!


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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD#4
Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:38:53 -0500


Here is a list of people that should be expecting CD#4.


1. Jeff Schachter 2. Michael Scott Shirk 3. Claude 4. Charlotte 5. Russ K
6. Richard Holdman

Those CD#4s are already on the way.  I am preparing to make some more CDs
soon.

In the meantime, if you are not one of the above people, feel free to ask
Richard Holdman for a copy.  He is ready to make up some #4s now.

If I have not answered your e-mails, its because I am swamped at work and
am very busy.  I have a job interview tommorow and hope I get a HUGE
promotion.  Problem is I am the least qualified of the other finalists, but
I don't give a dam.  I will try and act like I am smarter than I really am
in the interview.
Anyway, after that fiasco is over, whether I get the job or not, I will be
able to make more CDs.

I really HATE not having the time to talk to my hats friends, but ... well
you know how work can be, especially if you are trying to scam your way
into a promotion.

Cheers......

Tom
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From: [e-mail] (jon masciana)
Subject: Re: (hats) Promo pack from Ivan? Open Your Eyes promo?
Date: 10 Feb 1998 17:51:05 -0800 (PST)


>Did anyone who ever tried to contact Martine at Tox Records ever
>receive their Ivan promo pack?
>
>I didn't... or haven't yet.
>
>Just wondering...
>
>=============================================================================
>Don2
>[e-mail]

Would this promo pack include the promo single for Open Your Eyes? Is Tox
selling the single at all or is it just a promo only item? I'd love to find
it!

Just curious!

Jon




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From: Fehnnik Foxtaur <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:42:26 -0700


>>In the meantime, if you are not one of the above people, feel free to ask
>>Richard Holdman for a copy.  He is ready to make up some #4s now.

Does anybody know his E-Mail address?

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Subject: Re: (hats) Promo pack from Ivan?
Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:25:56 EST


In a message dated 98-02-10 16:51:53 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> Did anyone who ever tried to contact Martine at Tox Records ever
>  receive their Ivan promo pack?
>
>  I didn't... or haven't yet.
>
>  Just wondering...
>
not a peep heard from ME yet, and i've sent two faxes from the studio:/
ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: legit question
Date: 11 Feb 1998 00:00:56 +0000


Fehnnik Foxtaur wrote:
>
> >>In the meantime, if you are not one of the above people, feel free to ask
> >>Richard Holdman for a copy.  He is ready to make up some #4s now.
>
> Does anybody know his E-Mail address?

For the zillion time: you can find that information in the Men Without
Hats FAQ (frequently asked questions) web site (
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/home_mwh.html ), More
precisely in the Who's Who section (
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/whoswho_mwh.html ).
Makes me wonder why this adress is not part of the mailing
signature?!?!?!?!?!?

Take care

Claude

PS: Aaron, are you still looking for a pizza slice? ;o)


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD #4 - Get it Now
Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:03:24 +0000


CD #4 is ready to go out. I plan on making about 30 or so CDs in the
next few days.

The price for CD #4 is
$10 without Artwork
$15 with Artwork.
This includes shipping

I would prefer everybody to get it with the artwork since I am
getting the artwork printed on a press and dont want to be stuck with
a buch of extras (I have enough artwork for about 80 Cds), but I know
that there are some that dont have enough money.

Also CDs 1,2,3,5 are still available.

If you want any of these cds send a check to
Richard Holdman
112 North 300 East
PG, Utah 84062

-Richard Holdman


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD list for Boots 1,2,3,4,5
Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:16:55 +0000


A few people are asking what CD is what. Here is the list

CD#1 - Freeways - cassette + Pop (remix) + Moon (remix)
CD#2 - Spectrum - concert (1985 Montreal concert)
CD#3 - Toronto - concert (1983 CFNY radio broadcast)
CD#4 - BBC live LP - 6 songs (from 1984 WDTBG tour) +  Winnebago song
 CD#5 - MWH Demos - Roy demo tape + Folk III Rehearsal tape
-------------------------
CD#6 - in progress
CD#7 - in progress

I am offering CDs 1,2,3,4,5
Each CD is $10 without Artwork
$15 with Artwork.

CD #4 will be on the MP3 MWH archive very soon
The Archive can be found at http://www.holdman.com/mwh


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From: Eric Scott Simring <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Pop Goes The World
Date: 11 Feb 1998 03:08:12 -0800


Could someone please, please, please, help me get my hands on a Pop Goes The
World CD.  Oh so Grateful.  Please email me with wonderful news at
[e-mail]

Thanks

Eric


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) 2 in 1 CD
Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:33:00 +0100



Can anyone on this list tell me where I can buy:  Rhythm Of Youth and Folk
Of The 80's (Part III) on one CD.

Willy Nielsen

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Subject: Re: (hats) Re: legit question
Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:36:24 EST


In a message dated 98-02-11 01:12:47 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/whoswho_mwh.html ).
>  Makes me wonder why this adress is not part of the mailing
>  signature?!?!?!?!?!?
>
>  Take care
>
>  Claude
>
welp, you could always suggest it to Lazlo;)
ttyl,
Charlotte


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Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes The World
Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:41:26 EST


In a message dated 98-02-11 12:02:31 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Could someone please, please, please, help me get my hands on a Pop Goes
The
>  World CD.  Oh so Grateful.  Please email me with wonderful news at
>  [e-mail]
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Eric
>
go look up CDNow in the web....that is where i got PGTW, 21st century, and
sideways:)....as well as a hard-to-find Wire CD:)
good luck in your search!

Charlotte


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Subject: Re: (hats) 2 in 1 CD
Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:42:12 EST


In a message dated 98-02-11 12:02:38 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Can anyone on this list tell me where I can buy:  Rhythm Of Youth and Folk
>  Of The 80's (Part III) on one CD.
>
>  Willy Nielsen
>
>  [e-mail]
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uh....not on THIS continent :/


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Promo pack from Ivan?
Date: 11 Feb 1998 16:06:29 +0100


>>Did anyone who ever tried to contact Martine at Tox Records ever
>>receive their Ivan promo pack?
>>
>>I didn't... or haven't yet.
>>
>>Just wondering...
>>
>>=============================================================================
>>Don2
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I emailed, faxed _and_ phoned ages ago but have received no info
what-so-ever...  I've given up!

}:-)
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD4 - MP3 - Now Online
Date: 11 Feb 1998 14:21:06 +0000


I just got done converting CD4 to MP3 (the BBC rock hour)

The MWH archive can be found at http://www.holdman.com/mwh

I songs to do not fade out at the end so You will hear the crowd
yelling and then it will just stop. This was done on purpose because
the next version of WINAMP will support multiple mp3 playback without
pausing inbetween songs.

-Richard Holdman


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Subject: Re: (hats) IVAN PRONOUNCE
Date: 11 Feb 1998 18:50:43 EST


In a message dated 2/10/98  3:48:06PM, you write:

<< EYE-VAN >>


That's correct, the first name is EYE-VAN
the last name is pronounce DOROCHAWK  (kind of!)

Ciao

Francis


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Nationality
Date: 11 Feb 1998 18:50:42 EST


Hey!

I saw a couple of years ago in an interview that he is Ukrenian.

Ivan started to play piano with Stephan and Collin when he was young.  Betty
(his mother), told him "YOU HAVE TO PLAY 1 HOUR PER DAY IF YOU WANT TO BE A
CELEBRITY".

By the way, Elizabeth Doroschuck use to give music course

Ciao!

Francis


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Subject: (hats) Wolfgang address!
Date: 11 Feb 1998 20:53:51 EST


This message is for Wolfgang.

Could you give me your new address ?????

Thanks

Francis


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Subject: Re: (hats) Nationality
Date: 11 Feb 1998 22:46:15 EST


In a message dated 98-02-11 18:53:46 EST, you write:

>
>  By the way, Elizabeth Doroschuck use to give music course
>
didn't she teach @ McGill U , and before that at a university in urbana,
illinois(where at least ivan and one or possibly both of the other bros. were
born as well?)  and, btw, what did eugene do vocationally? was he a music
teacher as well, or in something completely unrelated?

food for thought, folx  ;)
Charlotte,


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD4
Date: 11 Feb 1998 20:25:38 -0800


CD4 is pretty nifty.  Was this show a radio show, or a TV show?  I remember
seeing radio show but it sounds like a TV show...who knows.  Well, catch ya
latez!


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Bootleg #2 Artwork messed up
Date: 12 Feb 1998 09:00:44 +0000


It was bound to happen.

When I made the artwork for the CDs I was up until 4am working on
them so they could get printed. On CD#4 the track listing is off by
one on the whole CD. I made the artwork by looking at the first set
of CDs that were made without the Intro Track. So the artwork starts
with track 1 which is heaven, but really the CD starts with track 1
being the intro track and then track 2 is heaven.

I feel real stupid for doing this, but such is life.

Anyway to make it up to everyone that got CD#2 from me I will send
you a new CD liner with the right track info. If you were one of
these people that bought CD#2 from me and want a new track listing
let me know and I will drop it in the mail for you. Let me know soon
so I can get them all out at once. Also let me know if you just
ordered CD#4 from me so I can just send it with that and save a
little on postage.

The CD label on the disc also has the same problem so Let me know if
you want a new sticker also for the CD. I have tested putting a cd
sticker over another one and it looks pretty good.

Finally, if you are really ticked that you have to do this and want
another CD with the right artwork, please send the Old CD back to me
and I will send you out a new one with the right artwork. I would
prefer just to send out the artwork but since this was my fault I
will replace the CD for you if you really want to.

Sorry about all this maddness

-Richard

P.S. All CDs sent out from this day on will have the right artwork.
:)




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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Bootleg #2 Artwork messed up
Date: 12 Feb 1998 11:12:26 +0000


Hi Hatters!

Richard laments . . .

> On CD#4 the track listing is off by one on the whole CD.

Oooh, all those lucky people now have a double-rarity!!  Mistakes on
postage stamps (misprints, wrong inks, etc.) usually make the stamp
even more valuable.  Just look at it this way - it's the personal
touch that makes these FP items so cool!

just my 2 cents . . .

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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Amazing Grace
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:07:23 +0000


That would be cool to hear a Men Without Hats verson of Amazing
Grace.

-Richard


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Music Awards
Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:27:58 EST


In a message dated 98-02-07 01:11:35 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  > Congratluations to Ivan for his recent nomination as "Best New Solo
Artist"
>
>  > in the CHR catagory (Contemporary Hit Radio) at the upcoming Canadian
> Radio
>  > Music Awards for "Open Your Eyes".
>
>
so when is this fateful night to be, eh??!?

  >:/

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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I'm not being rude on purpose . . .
Date: 12 Feb 1998 13:05:02 +0000


Hi Hatters!

Sorry to clutter the list with my travel plans, but there are a lot
of people contacting me about various things, and I thought that one
general email might be best.

If I haven't gotten back to you immediately, my apologies!  We're
having crazy fits at work this week and next, and I've been away from
my desk for most of the week so far.

I will be in Florida tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday (dog show), so I
won't be checking and responding to email those days.

And as if that weren't bad enough, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of
next week I will be at a business conference on the other side of the
state!!

So for the next week, I just wanted to let everyone who might be
trying to reach me know that I will be away from the office.  I will
have Mr. Laura check our home email account for important messages.
That email address is [e-mail]  If you need something
right away, send an email to that address with URGENT in the subject
line - I will tell Jim to look for that.

Back here on the 19th .. .

Have a good one, everybody!

:-) Laura


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Bootleg #2 Artwork messed up
Date: 12 Feb 1998 18:43:27 +0100


>When I made the artwork for the CDs I was up until 4am working on
>them so they could get printed. On CD#4 the track listing is off by
>one on the whole CD. I made the artwork by looking at the first set
>of CDs that were made without the Intro Track. So the artwork starts
>with track 1 which is heaven, but really the CD starts with track 1
>being the intro track and then track 2 is heaven.
sorry Rich - I should have made that blindingly obvious when I cut the
master.....

};-)
Mike



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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Bootleg #2 Artwork messed up
Date: 12 Feb 1998 14:09:28 -0500



>Oooh, all those lucky people now have a double-rarity!!  Mistakes on
>postage stamps (misprints, wrong inks, etc.) usually make the stamp
>even more valuable.  Just look at it this way - it's the personal
>touch that makes these FP items so cool!

Well, bootlegs usually have mistakes anyway :)  I wonder if that makes them
even more valuable.  No, I would NEVER EVER sell my MWH bootlegs, this is
just a curiosity that I am asking if any list members can answer my question :)


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From: Charles Farnum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) fav songs
Date: 12 Feb 1998 17:51:57 -0500


as of now i have recieved 24 responses to the song survey but i feel i
need at least fifty to make it valid. so please send me your top 3
favorite songs by MWH ivan's solo work counts too. People who have
already sent me their picks i apologize for your having to read yet
another reminder.

sincerely.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Safety Dance
Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:07:43 EST


Hey hatters,

I just listened to THE SAFETY DANCE,   BBC version.  Wow,   Allan Macarthy was
on drugs or what ??? OUF....  He had problems to play!

Ciao

Francis


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Safety Dance
Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:00:44 -0800


ROFLMAO!
Amen!  I noticed the same thing!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) everything's cool
Date: 14 Feb 1998 04:58:05 EST


witches in the kitchen cooking


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Subject: Re: (hats) everything's cool
Date: 14 Feb 1998 14:28:33 EST


In a message dated 98-02-14 04:59:28 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  witches in the kitchen cooking
>
*???*

-C-


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) everything's cool
Date: 14 Feb 1998 11:37:16 -0800


I think its "When she's in the kitchen", but everything's still cool!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) open your eyes 21st century
Date: 14 Feb 1998 22:39:34 EST


just wondering if anybody else has noticed that the small bongo style drum in
the  open your eyes follows the exact rhythm of the 21st century safety dance


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Ok...here again
Date: 15 Feb 1998 01:27:14 -0500 (EST)


    Ok...I was proud of my ideas for walls revelation although i guess
there were a few people on the list that already knew about it.

    I found out something else...I don't know if people know this or
not...but in the Open Your Eyes video, there is a Men Without Hats records
spinning on the turntable.

    Is that something that hasn't been discussed before??

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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Another observation...
Date: 15 Feb 1998 10:29:03 -0800


I am sure most of you knew this already, but the short guy in the Safety
Dance video is wearing a ROY shirt.


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From: Charles Farnum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) make our own video's
Date: 15 Feb 1998 13:42:48 -0500


Dear Hatters,
    Last night during my usual insomnia I had an idea that I have
not heard disscussed on the list during my tenure. I think it would be a
good idea if we made fan produced videos of different MWH songs. We
could use our computers to animate the videos. Granted I do not have the
software(or probably the computer for that matter) to make good ones on
but I sure at least one of us on the list has something we could use. I
would be more than willing to help come up with ideas for the videos
visually as I am sure many others would be willing to do.
    If anyone has an interest in getting this project off the ground
please contact me with what you would be able to contribute, especially
if you have any experience doing something like this, because I do not
have a clue where to begin on my own in terms of the actual animating.

Thanks,
Whit


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From: Bill Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Making of MWH vids
Date: 15 Feb 1998 16:00:31 -0800


We need a dancing baby version of Safety Dance.  Can anyone do this?  It
would be great to get people back in touch with MWH.  Everybody loves
the song, even if they don't admit it.  Later, Bill


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Another observation...
Date: 15 Feb 1998 19:58:46 EST


Did you know that Ivan was married with Anne Dusseault, the lady in THE SAFETY
DANCE video ???

Ciao

Francis


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show.
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:01:46 EST


Hey hatters,

Would you like an inside or an outside show???

I will probably meet Ivan's manager this week and I'm going to ask A LOT of
questions.  All those questions comes from what I read on this list.

Ciao everybody

Francis


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Subject: (hats) Did you know that.......
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:04:00 EST


HEy, may be it's a good time to share all our souvenirs on MWH... good or bad.



DID YOU KNOW THAT 10 minutes before the Spectrum show, Ivan did'nt want to go
on stage.... ????


Ciao

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Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show.
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:06:31 EST


Well, I guess since it is supposed to be a private show, the best thing to do
would be to have it indoors!!
Angie


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Subject: Re: (hats) Another observation...
Date: 15 Feb 1998 19:14:37 -0500 (EST)




Is that true about Ivan having a wife? and her being the Saftey Dance
girl.
             o  o  o
          o  *******   o
       o   *\*********   o
      o   ***\**********  o
     o    *|  \      |*    o
     o     \   \     /     o
     o      -   \   -      o
     o       \   \  /      o
      o       \   \/      o
        o      --- \    o
          o         \ o
            o o o o o

> Did you know that Ivan was married with Anne Dusseault, the lady in THE SAFETY
> DANCE video ???
>
> Ciao
>
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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Another observation...
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:40:03 -0500


At 07:58 PM 2/15/98 EST, you wrote:
>
>Did you know that Ivan was married with Anne Dusseault, the lady in THE SAFETY
>DANCE video ???
>
>Ciao
>
>Francis
>
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From: Alain Robillard-Bastien <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show.
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:45:19 -0500


Hum.... I'm not sure, but I like the idea of an outside show, espacially at
spring. An outside show would be more difficult to manage ("privacy" and the
weather as well), but it would be really cool! And, finally, is there a
consensus about who can attend this show? Only us and friends or also others?
If the show is not advertized outside the list, maybe it can be held outside
without any major problems.

Al.

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>
> Hey hatters,
>
> Would you like an inside or an outside show???
>
> I will probably meet Ivan's manager this week and I'm going to ask A
> LOT of
> questions.  All those questions comes from what I read on this list.
>
> Ciao everybody
>
> Francis
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Subject: (hats) Wolfgang !?!?!?
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:49:13 EST


Is there someone who know where is Wolfgang ???

Ciao

Francis


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From: Alain Robillard-Bastien <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Private show: inside or outside?
Date: 15 Feb 1998 21:08:21 -0500


There is a lot of uncertainty about an outside show... The weather, people,
noise, license, etc. But some musical bars do have outdoor installations; and
those places can easily switch from outside to inside if, for example, the
weather goes bad: they decide that in the morning, depending of the forecast.
They also have the sound system, can collect tickets at the door, etc.

So, if we can find such a place in Montreal, then we could think of an outside
show. Else, the more I think about it, the more difficult it gets.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) new Ivan single
Date: 16 Feb 1998 13:25:24 -0800


This may already have been mentioned but "1972 (Slippin' Away)" is the
third single from "The Spell". I saw the promo cd single, does anyone know
if a video has been made for it?

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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) vocals and hats
Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:13:57 +0100


well, I'm trying to find a time slot so that I can record some hats
covers... the only thing is I don't have a vocalist - anyone fancy a
go???  I'd send out the rough mix so that person could record the vocals
onto a tape and send it back to me.  I could then load the vocal sound
into my computerised audio system - add reverb, cut 'n' paste etc - just
what Macs were made for.  Who wants to volunteer?

On a side note - wouldn't it be a larf to get a support band going for
the Ivan show????  Hmmm... thats what I thought!

}:-)
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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) I need help! :)
Date: 16 Feb 1998 17:30:01 -0500


Hello!

I apologize for sending an off topic message to the list but as the suvject
reads, I am looking for help.  No, not psychiatry help, I need help in
french :) I have an interview with my phone company this Friday (YAY!) and
the job description specifies for french written and reading skills.  I took
french in high school and my last year of high school was about 5 years ago.
So, I'm a litle rusty.  I submitted my resume (an dexplicitly wrote that I
leanred frnehc in high school) anyway just in case and I got an interview!!!
So, just in case, I would like to ask if anyoen can help me with some french
terms for the Internet and web browsers and also terms for cell phones.

Thanks!

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Online Comic Book
http://www.interlog.com/~daniele

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Subject: Re: (hats) vocals and hats
Date: 16 Feb 1998 17:49:24 EST


Around the time we came up with the idea of putting on the private show, I
mentioned that my brother and I would like to be the supporting act.  The plan
was for he and I
(he is in a band called Wine Field who just finished a tour of France and
Holland, and
I am a singer/multi-instrumentalist with lots of stage experience) to play
about 5 to 7
acoustic/electric covers of songs that greatly influenced Ivan in his younger
days
(Roxy, Genesis, Bowie, whatever). That, I guess, depends on how the list
members feel about a short, very professional opening act before the show.

Angie


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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) vocals and hats
Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:00:13 -0800


I think its a good idea.  ANyone else?


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show, I
>mentioned that my brother and I would like to be the supporting act.  The
plan
>was for he and I
play
>about 5 to 7
>acoustic/electric covers of songs that greatly influenced Ivan in his
younger
>days




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From: D Krupla <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) TNT Commercial
Date: 14 Feb 1998 09:44:28 -0800 (PST)


Last night I saw a commercial on TNT for Entertainment Weekly
magazine.  They're offering a rather interesting premium if you
subscribe now:  a two-cd collection of "80's New Wave Hits."  They
said it's almost two hours of music from 24 artists, but they only
listed 13.  They showed video clips from groups like Culture Club
(Church of the Poison Mind), Eurythmics (Sweet Dreams), The Vapors
(Turning Japanese), Modern English (Melt With You), Adam Ant (Goody
Two-Shoes), and at the end...you guessed it, they actually showed a
video clip from The Safety Dance!

Yet another compilation listing for the discography.  I'll probably
subscribe just to get the cds.  I liked all the songs I heard, and the
cost is only $24.

Dave K
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Cause the rhythm of youth is the rhythm of life
The rhythm of life is the rhythm of youth."

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From: "William G. Perrin III" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) the old one remembers
Date: 16 Feb 1998 08:36:25 +0900


I was a little bit behind in reading the Hats digest and saw your
birthday greeting.  Thanks so much for thinking of me.  Your message
brightened an otherwise dull and uneventful Monday in Japan.


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From: [e-mail] (Timothy RE Manners)
Subject: (hats) ABC Video
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:25:16 -0700


Dear Hatters,

Sharing your taste in music, I would love to exchange an original video
(NTSC) of ABC's "Mantrap" film which promoted the first album.  Any
offers from those able to make copies of the coveted MWH fan-produced
cd's?

What is to be on the 'coming soon' CD's #6 and 7?

Any one out there familiar with 'Freur'?  I know that Oglio released
their first album on CD a few years ago.  I am trying to get a CD copy of
the second album 'Get Us Out of Here'.  I sold the vinyl album to a fan
for $100 but never got a digital copy made.

Write to me directly,

Tim

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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH Videos
Date: 17 Feb 1998 00:40:06 -0800


Hey all - quick question.  Does anyone have - for sale - the MWH Video
Collection?  I have had an itchin recently to see some MWH videos.  If no
one has any, why doesn't someone with a video capture board turn them into
MPEG videos and put 'em on the MP3 site.  I know that was brought up before,
but nothing came of it.  Later all!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Ivan video
Date: 16 Feb 1998 23:28:28 -0500 (EST)



    I didn't get any responses back about the Ivan video, Open Your
Eyes. I was writing to see if anybody had known previously that there was
a Men Without Hats record being spun on the turntable. Let me know.

Collin


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From: Col & Neen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Biodome
Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:15:37 -0000


I've just seen the movie Biodome - while it's not that great a film, there
is an excellent section in the middle where the characters to a pastiche of
the safety dance video (complete with midget jester!).  Also, on the end
credits there is a totally different mix of the Safety Dance(more guitar
orientated) - credited as the Biodome Mix.  Does anyone know if this version
is attainable? will it be appearing on a forthcoming boot CD?

Col.




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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) biodome mix
Date: 17 Feb 1998 13:37:05 +0000


>
> This version is available on the Bio-Dome Soundtrack.
>
> -Richard Holdman
>
> >
> > I've just seen the movie Biodome - while it's not that great a
> > film, there is an excellent section in the middle where the
> > characters to a pastiche of the safety dance video (complete with
> > midget jester!).  Also, on the end credits there is a totally
> > different mix of the Safety Dance(more guitar orientated) -
> > credited as the Biodome Mix.  Does anyone know if this version is
> > attainable? will it be appearing on a forthcoming boot CD?
> >
> > Col.


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 17 Feb 1998 20:00:26 +0100


>I've just seen the movie Biodome - while it's not that great a film, there
>is an excellent section in the middle where the characters to a pastiche of
>the safety dance video (complete with midget jester!).  Also, on the end
>credits there is a totally different mix of the Safety Dance(more guitar
>orientated) - credited as the Biodome Mix.  Does anyone know if this version
>is attainable? will it be appearing on a forthcoming boot CD?
its on the Bio-Dome CD and isn't worth it...  I bought it so I should
know!!

}:-)
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) make our own video's
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:20:11 EST


In a message dated 98-02-15 13:41:10 EST, [e-mail]
writes:

<<  I think it would be a
 good idea if we made fan produced videos of different MWH songs. We
 could use our computers to animate the videos.  >>
hey there:)
i do not know much about computerized animation,  but as i am an traditional
*read: PENCIL and PAPER* animator by trade,  i will be more than happy to
donate my services towards developing characters/stories, as well as help out
with staging/storyboarding, providing preliminary layout/key-pose animation
for the computer techs to base the inbetweening poses and cleanup work on,
help to plot camera moves n' such, and some timing *as that is my next level
of learning*  i don't know how ambitious everyone is about this, but the
services are there if you need them:)

lemme know if i can help, eh? ;)

ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Another observation...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:22:55 EST


In a message dated 98-02-15 20:15:28 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 > Did you know that Ivan was married with Anne Dusseault, the lady in THE
SAFETY
 > DANCE video ???
 >
 > Ciao
 >
 > Francis
  >>
if she is the same one in the 'I Like' video, was she really pregnant, or was
it just padding?

curiously,
-C-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show.
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:21:34 EST


In a message dated 98-02-15 20:03:48 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 Hey hatters,

 Would you like an inside or an outside show???

 I will probably meet Ivan's manager this week and I'm going to ask A LOT of
 questions.  All those questions comes from what I read on this list.

 Ciao everybody

 Francis
  >>
INSIDE....definately!
ttyl,
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Subject: Re: (hats) Wolfgang !?!?!?
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:23:55 EST


In a message dated 98-02-15 20:51:15 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 Is there someone who know where is Wolfgang ???

 Ciao

 Francis
  >>
isn't he on the who's who?
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Subject: Re: (hats) vocals and hats
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:31:11 EST


In a message dated 98-02-16 14:51:23 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 well, I'm trying to find a time slot so that I can record some hats
 covers... the only thing is I don't have a vocalist - anyone fancy a
 go???  I'd send out the rough mix so that person could record the vocals
 onto a tape and send it back to me.  I could then load the vocal sound
 into my computerised audio system - add reverb, cut 'n' paste etc - just
 what Macs were made for.  Who wants to volunteer?
  >>


heehee...there are 2 words that are preventing me from volunteering for such a
task.......

EVICTION NOTICE!

ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) vocals and hats
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:32:56 EST


as a last resort....ther's always Kareoke!

;)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Another observation...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 17:49:48 EST


In a message dated 98-02-17 16:25:31 EST, [e-mail] writes  >>

 if she is the same one in the 'I Like' video, was she really pregnant, or was
 it just padding?

 curiously,
 -C-
  >>

actually, i wound up answering my own question *somewhat*, as i remember Ivan
stating in a Smash Hits interview i have ('88) that he had no kids of his
own...
so, either it WAS a pad, or anne sure has a lot of explaining to do ;)

-C-


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: vocals
Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:59:20 +0100


Seems like I've stirred up a hornets nest with this vocals idea!  Thanks
for all your responses - I'll be in touch soon.  On a similar note,
anyone have MIDI files of Hats stuff - as I don't want to start from
scratch if someone's already done them...  answers direct please.

As for everything else - wey hey!  Anyone like the Moose's Moonbeam Mix
on boot 4?


}:-)
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From: "Eric Soderblom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) hats site index
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:30:28 PST


Hey Guys-
Long time no post.  Anyway a couple of things.  First of all, my Hats
Site Index is about to undergo some serious revamping.  If anyone out
there has some spare time, you could go to my site and see what links
are no longer active and let me know.  ALSO, I would LOVE to have a MWH
midi file on there as well, so if anyone has one, let me know how to get
it.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Ivan remix on compilation cd
Date: 17 Feb 1998 21:20:23 -0800


I just saw a new CD called "Massive Dance Hits Vol. 3" and it contains the
"Ripchord Radio Mix" of  Open Your Eyes  by Ivan.  This series I believe is
only out in Canada, and could easily be ordered from HMV in Toronto
(1-800-567-8468) if you have to have this remix. Just some info for the
collectors out there.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) S I D E W A Y S
Date: 17 Feb 1998 21:35:09 EST


If anyone is interested I have found a new copy of Sideways for about $11US.
Email me at [e-mail]


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From: James Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan nominated for Juno award?
Date: 18 Feb 1998 10:11:06 -0800


Can anyone verify this Dejanews posting?

Newsgroups:   alt.gossip.celebrities

...
 BEST DANCE RECORDING

 Euphoria (Rabbit In The Moon Mix) - Delerium
 The Spell - Ivan
 Angel (Angelic Radio Mix) - Joee
 Move Ya Feet - P.J.
 Universal Dream (Telluric Club Mix) - Temperance


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan nominated for Juno award?
Date: 18 Feb 1998 16:28:11 EST


In a message dated 98-02-18 16:21:52 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
  BEST DANCE RECORDING

  Euphoria (Rabbit In The Moon Mix) - Delerium
  The Spell - Ivan
  Angel (Angelic Radio Mix) - Joee
  Move Ya Feet - P.J.
  Universal Dream (Telluric Club Mix) - Temperance
  >>
this was brought up 2-3 weeks ago *i think*....i am curious as to when these
awards are being held, as well as who would be able to tape this:/
ttyl,
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From: Vince Silvaggio <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan nominated for Juno award?
Date: 18 Feb 1998 18:18:25 -0500


At 10:11 AM 2/18/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Can anyone verify this Dejanews posting?
>
>Subject:      1998 Juno Nominations -- Complete List
>From:         "David Migicovsky" <[e-mail]>
>Date:         1998/02/11
>Newsgroups:   alt.gossip.celebrities
>
>...
> BEST DANCE RECORDING
>
> Euphoria (Rabbit In The Moon Mix) - Delerium
> The Spell - Ivan
> Angel (Angelic Radio Mix) - Joee
> Move Ya Feet - P.J.
> Universal Dream (Telluric Club Mix) - Temperance
>
Yes, indeed, Ivan is nominated for best dance recording.  I read in my
local paper sometime last week.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) this little indian....
Date: 18 Feb 1998 18:52:55 EST


would like to know when all the chiefs involved with booking this concert are
going to stop fighting and get with the program, so the REST of us indians
will have a show to go to!

i know i am speaking for no less than 3-5 people in my regional neck of the
woods when i say that something needs to be 'carved in stone' right away, as
the airfare right now  is going to range from $450-$600 *or in MY case,
$700+*...and the longer this thing is fought over and delayed, the more that a
lot of us are going  have to *unneccessarily* pay in the long run.....ice
storms and such aside...i think that the time is NOW!

i will also go further to say that if nothing has been booked/solidified
*date-wise by mid-march, i myself will have no choice but to consider the
whole thing a 'no-show', and book my trip independantly, i do not like the
thought of the possibility that an even larger chunk of my canada trip kitty
will go towards my airfare the longer i wait on this....

if this makes me an impatient b***h, then so be it...but i feel this is long
overdue...

thank you,
Squaw Charlotte


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Subject: (hats) Tox Records does not answer!!!!
Date: 18 Feb 1998 19:51:57 EST


Hi gang.

I'm trying to get in touch with Ivan's manager.  I spoke to him a couple of
weeks ago, and he was telling me to call him back mid-February to finalize our
private show.

The problem is, NOBODY ANSWER AT TOX MUSIC (except the electronic answering
machine).  Even the internet site, if you try to e-mail someone, the message
bounced.

WHAT IS HAPPENING!!!!!  WE WANT OUR SHOW!!!!!


But DONT WORRY, I'm gonna try tomorrow every hour....

Ciao

Francis


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 18 Feb 1998 19:51:49 EST


Hey!

Yes, I bought the biodome cd 2 years ago.  This version of SAFETY DANCE
contains 2 new tracks.  Drums, and electric guitars.

Interesting.....

May be we could do a cd with ALL the version of SAFETY DANCE that we have
(studio, live, remake, etc.)

ciao

Francis


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Hats midi file
Date: 18 Feb 1998 19:51:55 EST


Hi Eric... WELCOME BACK!

I have some MWH songs in midi file.

Which one are you lokking for ???

Francis


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:30:25 +0000



The Biodome Cd I bought only has one version of Safety Dance and that
is the Electric Guitars mix. Are you sure there is a drum mix on it?

That would be a good idea though to put all the versions of safety
dance on one CD.

-Richard Holdman

> Hey!
>
> Yes, I bought the biodome cd 2 years ago.  This version of SAFETY DANCE
> contains 2 new tracks.  Drums, and electric guitars.
>
> Interesting.....
>
> May be we could do a cd with ALL the version of SAFETY DANCE that we have
> (studio, live, remake, etc.)
>
> ciao
>
> Francis
>


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From: D Krupla <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:54:03 -0800 (PST)


---Richard Holdman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> The Biodome Cd I bought only has one version of Safety Dance and that
> is the Electric Guitars mix. Are you sure there is a drum mix on it?
>


I have a cd-single with two versions of the Bio-Mix Safety Dance.
They're basically the same, but one's longer.  Maybe that's what
Francis has?

Dave K
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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 19 Feb 1998 12:01:58 -0500


Richard Holdman wrote:
>
> The Biodome Cd I bought only has one version of Safety Dance and that
> is the Electric Guitars mix. Are you sure there is a drum mix on it?

It is not the first time Francis is misinterpreted! What he meant was
that the difference in the Electric Guitars mix is an additionnal track
of electric guitar and an additionnal track of live drums (vs drum
machine).

Take care

Claude


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) this little indian....
Date: 19 Feb 1998 14:02:56 EST


In a message dated 98-02-18 21:13:48 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 Obviously you have no clue about booking bands and promotions...  Hope you
 feel better after getting it off your chest though.

 Cordially,
 Rush

 "If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you
 saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his
 arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of
 this strength, and the greater his effort, the heavier the world bore down
 on his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?"
      "I... don't know. What... could he do? What would you tell him?"
 "To shrug."  --Ayn Rand >>

hi rush....

as for my apparent 'lack of knowledge', i know enough that  this is something
that should have been negoiated/booked BEFORE the holidays; most shows of this
nature usually have the artist(s) involved, as well as the venue, booked about
6  months in advance...ESPECIALLY if it is a summer show....

i am also referring to an email sent by JDivito towards the end of jan./beg.
of feb., in re: to who's in charge and that if we don't like it, then we
better choose sides....

we do not want metaphors, we do not want ultimatums...we simply want a
show.....hopefully booked with enough time so that those of us already getting
fleeced by the airlines do not get fleeced any further :/

 thank you for your speedy reply, francis... i *DO* understand that it takes
two to tango...;)

ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Sounds like MWH...
Date: 19 Feb 1998 12:52:27 -0800 (PST)


This is just some rambling from a MWH fan...

I just completed a month-long search for the CD of the Let's Active
album "Cypress". The CD also contains the EP "Afoot".

There is a song on "Afoot" called "Room With a View" that sounds like
it could have come straight from the "Freeways" EP. It's really eerie...

(By the way, "Afoot" was recorded in 1983...)

=============================================================================
Don2
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   1998: THE YEAR OF GODZILLA   [May 20, 1998]


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From: "EXA Systems Inc." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show
Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:44:04 -0800


Hey gang!

This is Francis, (from the office) (Please, dont reply on this E-mail, use
[e-mail])

I just spoke to Ivan's manager.  Everything is working nice and easy, we
should have our show in June.

I have to finalize everything next week.  Before I sign anything, I'll let
you know the contract.

Ciao

Francis


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) sideways cd cheap!!
Date: 19 Feb 1998 18:25:47 EST


anyone looking for the "sideways" cd for $5, let me know. i found a website
that has it.

ray


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show
Date: 19 Feb 1998 18:33:52 EST


In a message dated 98-02-19 16:55:28 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 This is Francis, (from the office) (Please, dont reply on this E-mail, use
 [e-mail])

 I just spoke to Ivan's manager.  Everything is working nice and easy, we
 should have our show in June.

 I have to finalize everything next week.  Before I sign anything, I'll let
 you know the contract.

 Ciao

 Francis

  >>
YES!!?!
GO, FRANCIS!!?!

-c-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show....and a BIG WHOOPS!...:/
Date: 19 Feb 1998 19:06:19 EST


In a message dated 98-02-19 18:37:41 EST, you write:

<< <<
  This is Francis, (from the office) (Please, dont reply on this E-mail, use
  [e-mail])
  >>
sorry, francis...i accidently hit 'reply to all', and thus wound up forwarding
my reply to your office email (which you expressly stated NOT to do!) as well
as the list....sorry:/*cringe*
ttyl,
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD Bootleg update
Date: 20 Feb 1998 14:56:52 +0000


Well I just sent 9 packages off today. If you are still waiting for
you package it should arrive soon.

If you have been putting off the bootlegs this is you last chance. I
need to know right now if you want any of the Cds. Cds 1,2,3,4,5 are
available still. For a track listing please vist my web site at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

I still have five #4-BBC Rock Hour cds left and a few more of the
other ones. I can still make more if I get the requests in now.

Its been alot of working getting these out, but I am glad I am able
to spread these discs around to all the fans. I am sure that someone
in a few months will be reading this when it is in the MWH mailing
list archive. If you are go ahead and mail me to see if I have any
left.

-Richard


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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Men Without Hats on the web
Date: 22 Feb 1998 16:18:44 -0500


Message to all who are maintaining a web page on Men Without Hats (and
to all dedicated MWH fans):

If you have a link to the FAQ site, there are good chances it is
outdated, so here are the new URLs

FAQ main page:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/home_mwh.html

Links section:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/links_mwh.html
If you maintain a MWH page, IT SHOULD BE REGISTERED THERE. Go check it
out and make sure the URL is accurate. If you modify your page or change
URLs, notice the list, so that everybody who is maintaining a page of
MWH related links can update it.

TOP 10 web resources related to MWH:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/bestlinks_mwh.html
If you really care about MWH, you should contribute your vote to this
list. Help others quickly get to the essential...

Merchandise section:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/merch_mwh.html
Should the 5 CDs-boots be listed here? (that one's for you Tom N.)
Should Dr. Laura be listed as official american distributor?

Who's who section:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/whoswho_mwh.html
If by any chance you read this and your are not listed in the who's who,
send your entry today! I'm still waiting for pictures from most of you!
Are you that ugly? Can't be worst than me...

History section:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/history_mwh.html
This section contains most of the answers to the frequently asked
questions on the mailing list. For obscure reasons, this URL is NOT
included in the signature of the MWH mailing list (contrary to 99.9% of
the mailing lists I encountered in my life, go figure). This section was
created by an important group of list's members in reaction to
repetitive questions to the list. It was hard work to put togheter. It
deserves to be advertize properly. BTW, the entry on the "bootlegs" is
outdated. Tom N., are you game to submit an updated version?

Family section:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/family_mwh.html
Lists everybody who participated in a MWH recording, with what they did
and which songs they wrote.

For those who maintain a page linking to my e-mail (Dave Mattingly), my
new e-mail address is : [e-mail]

Finally, for those HTMLers out there, my name is Claude Gr=E9goire or, if
you don't get the accents, Claude Grégoire.

That's it folks

Take care

Claude


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From: Brad Hull <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Former Hats Member Re-surfaced
Date: 23 Feb 1998 15:54:21 -0500


I have been exchanging messages with Bruce Murphy over the past few days.
I tracked him down through a work related mailing list (as you all may
recall, he's now a dentist - and I sell dental software).

He wants us all to know that he will soon be doing some solo recording
again.  He is also very interested in knowing about the private show in
Montreal in June - says he'll try to crash on Ivan's couch!

He also mentioned that some demos from a 1994 concept album he and Ivan
worked on might be floating around and that he would really like to get his
hands on them.  Album was called UFOs are Real.  Anyone know about these???

Looking forward to getting firm dates for the Montreal show - my neighbour
just about went ballistic when I told her about this show so there might be
a couple of more interested people!

TTFN

Brad
Brad Hull
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


I can not get any mail to send to the mwh mailing list. Is this
working?

-Richard Holdman


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


I can not get any mail to send to the mwh mailing list. Is this
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-Richard Holdman


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


I can not get any mail to send to the mwh mailing list. Is this
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-Richard Holdman


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


I can not get any mail to send to the mwh mailing list. Is this
working?

-Richard Holdman


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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) unreleased albums
Date: 23 Feb 1998 20:25:42 -0500


> He also mentioned that some demos from a 1994 concept album he and Ivan
> worked on might be floating around and that he would really like to get
his
> hands on them.  Album was called UFOs are Real.  Anyone know about
these???
>
> Looking forward to getting firm dates for the Montreal show - my
neighbour
> just about went ballistic when I told her about this show so there might
be
> a couple of more interested people!

Here they are:

1992  Sideways part II - French
1994  UFOs R Real
1995-96  French Jazz album

There is also a demo album like ROY demo tape from right before Pop Goes
the World.   The song "Heaven" from Specturm show is probably on this
album.

We sure need this stuff don't we?

Tom
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Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


I can not get any mail to send to the mwh mailing list. Is this
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From: Brad Hull <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Former Hats Member Re-surfaced
Date: 23 Feb 1998 15:54:21 -0500


I have been exchanging messages with Bruce Murphy over the past few days.
I tracked him down through a work related mailing list (as you all may
recall, he's now a dentist - and I sell dental software).

He wants us all to know that he will soon be doing some solo recording
again.  He is also very interested in knowing about the private show in
Montreal in June - says he'll try to crash on Ivan's couch!

He also mentioned that some demos from a 1994 concept album he and Ivan
worked on might be floating around and that he would really like to get his
hands on them.  Album was called UFOs are Real.  Anyone know about these???

Looking forward to getting firm dates for the Montreal show - my neighbour
just about went ballistic when I told her about this show so there might be
a couple of more interested people!

TTFN

Brad
Brad Hull
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Testing - This is only a test
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:22:34 +0000


I can not get any mail to send to the mwh mailing list. Is this
working?

-Richard Holdman


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From: jdavis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Juno awards
Date: 23 Feb 1998 20:34:28 -0800


From http://www.juno-awards.ca/ :

> For the second time this decade, the Juno Awards are heading for the
> west coast as the gala celebration of the best in Canadian music moves
> into GM Place in Vancouver for its Sunday, March 22, 1998 show. The
> 27th annual Juno Awards, which will have a 5:00 pm PST starting time,
> will once again be telecast live across Canada by the CBC.

Maybe Ivan will do a show while on the west coast??

Jim
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Ivan
Date: 23 Feb 1998 23:23:21 -0500 (EST)


    Nobody responded to my post:

    Was anybody previously aware that there is a Men Without Hats
record spinning in the Open Your Eyes video? Let me know if you did or did
not know this.

Thanx...

"driving south on super 87."

I will be in about two weeks.


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) CD Bootleg update
Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:05:43 +0000


For Dale and Everybody that needs the Artwork-

All artwork has been updated on my web page at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

Just go into the folder called "Artwork for bootlegs" all artwork is
in PDF format. You can download Adobe Acrobat it view and
print the artwork from adobe at http://www.adobe.com

Also this is a good way to view the artwork if you want to see what
it looks like before you get it.

-Richard



> i have not said much on this list and i still don't know if im getting
> through to all of you (not just richard)
> but if i am, i will carry on the cd production after richard steps down. the
> only thing i dont have is the cd artwork. and if i can get those also i'll
> be another distributor like richard and tom.
>
> anyway i'll charge $10 without artwork (just the plain cds)
> and $14 for the color artwork (minus the cd stickers)
>
> please let me know if interested
> dale


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Artwork Online
Date: 23 Feb 1998 11:45:43 +0000


For Dale and Everybody that needs the Artwork-

All artwork has been updated on my web page at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

Just go into the folder called "Artwork for bootlegs" all artwork is
in PDF format. You can download Adobe Acrobat it view and print the
artwork from adobe at http://www.adobe.com

Also this is a good way to view the artwork if you want to see what it
looks like before you get it.

-Richard


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) CD Bootleg update
Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:05:43 +0000


For Dale and Everybody that needs the Artwork-

All artwork has been updated on my web page at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

Just go into the folder called "Artwork for bootlegs" all artwork is
in PDF format. You can download Adobe Acrobat it view and
print the artwork from adobe at http://www.adobe.com

Also this is a good way to view the artwork if you want to see what
it looks like before you get it.

-Richard



> i have not said much on this list and i still don't know if im getting
> through to all of you (not just richard)
> but if i am, i will carry on the cd production after richard steps down. the
> only thing i dont have is the cd artwork. and if i can get those also i'll
> be another distributor like richard and tom.
>
> anyway i'll charge $10 without artwork (just the plain cds)
> and $14 for the color artwork (minus the cd stickers)
>
> please let me know if interested
> dale


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Artwork Online
Date: 23 Feb 1998 11:45:43 +0000


For Dale and Everybody that needs the Artwork-

All artwork has been updated on my web page at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

Just go into the folder called "Artwork for bootlegs" all artwork is
in PDF format. You can download Adobe Acrobat it view and print the
artwork from adobe at http://www.adobe.com

Also this is a good way to view the artwork if you want to see what it
looks like before you get it.

-Richard


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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Former Hats Member Re-surfaced
Date: 24 Feb 1998 07:59:40 -0500 (EST)


UFO's are real?  why yes, I've heard much about this mysterious project.
Unfortunately, I have no idea if or how we can aquire this stuff.
Anyone have a clue?

Nathan




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From: senz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan - OYE
Date: 24 Feb 1998 08:03:33 -0700


[e-mail] wrote:

>         Was anybody previously aware that there is a Men Without Hats
> record spinning in the Open Your Eyes video? Let me know if you did or did
> not know this.

I didn't and I blame it on Shaw cable.  My cable reception was acting up
during the week they ran that video. The only copy of Open Your Eyes I have is
filled with distortion, noise and gaps.  I'm not complaining though, since in
my opinion it's not the best video around.  I like superbadgirls better and I
just happen to have that one taped in excellent condition.  :-)

Senz
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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Not testing anymore
Date: 24 Feb 1998 08:30:58 +0000


That was wierd - I only sent that test message once but it showed up
about 6 times on the list. :)

-Richard



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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Something Strange going on
Date: 24 Feb 1998 09:10:14 +0000


I noticed that the messages I posted before my infamous "test"
message were on the list twice when I sent them only once. I noticed
that a few other peoples messages are sometimes repeated twice (like
Brad Hull for example). I guess I was the lucky one that got it do
repeat it 6 times and not only 2. :)

I know this has happen in the past and I am wondering if it is
happening again.

-Richard Holdman


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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) new hatter!
Date: 24 Feb 1998 13:44:22 -0500


Hi all!

We just doubled the number of australian representatives on this list.
Welcome aboard David Thomson!

More about him at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/whoswho_mwh.html

Take care all

Claude

P.S. : happy birthday to Doug Finney from all fellow hatters...


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) new hatter!
Date: 24 Feb 1998 14:08:54 EST


In a message dated 98-02-24 13:45:54 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Hi all!
>
>  We just doubled the number of australian representatives on this list.
>  Welcome aboard David Thomson!
>
>
wooHOO!
welcome, david!

-C-


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From: "C. Scott Kippen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) New Hat
Date: 24 Feb 1998 12:26:34 -0700 (MST)


Hi,

Just wanted to let the folks on the list that a new MWH fan is onboard.  I
have been a fan since the first release in the USA.  I from Greeley, CO.

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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Last call on T's!
Date: 24 Feb 1998 14:59:16 +0000


Hi Everybody, especially the new hatters!

I am *finally* done with Field Test assembly - the rest is all cake.

I am about to submit the order for the Tshirts.  If you haven't
ordered one yet, let me know SOON.  I will get a few extras made, but
don't want to have like 2 zillion of them on hand, so get yours NOW!

CUL8R, Allig8rs!

:-) Laura


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From: Daniele Rossi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) UFOs are Real
Date: 24 Feb 1998 18:56:27 -0500



>UFO's are real?  why yes, I've heard much about this mysterious project.
>Unfortunately, I have no idea if or how we can aquire this stuff.
>Anyone have a clue?

that has got to be the most anticipiated album.  With a title like that, i
wonder what kind of music it is!  I wonder if that is hwere the "Uforia"
logo comes from?  Maybe "The Spell" has some songs from it.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Online Comic Book
http://www.interlog.com/~daniele

883 Fan Page...dal Canada?
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3603

Spandau Ballet Unofficial Homepage --coming soon: CHAT!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 24 Feb 1998 20:12:33 EST


In a message dated 2/19/98  12:02:41PM, Claude Gr=E9goire write:=0A=0A<< =
It is not the first time Francis is misinterpreted! What he meant was=0A =
that the difference in the Electric Guitars mix is an additionnal track=
=0A of electric guitar and an additionnal track of live drums (vs drum=0A=
 machine). >>=0A=0A=0A=0AMerci beaucoup claude.=0A=0A=0AMy English is not=
 as good as yours, but at least,  I TRY  heheheeh=0A=0A=0ASalut mon poiss=
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From: [e-mail] (jon masciana)
Subject: (hats) 12" mixes on cdr of some groups you might like....
Date: 25 Feb 1998 01:17:52 -0800 (PST)



Well, I'm sending this message to my fave mailing lists since you might be
interested in this. I've had a big response for those Orb cd-rs I'm making
and I thought I'd do a whole series of artists also since I know many of
you probably would like some of those cool 12" only mixes on cd, or you
just don't want to wear out the vinyl. I'm eventually going to put my
entire collection on cd so if you want a copy of stuff I have, let me know.
The following is a listing of some stuff I was going to put on cdr for some
of my fave groups. Let me know if you're interested in any of them (I'll
customize them for you if you want.) Each cd-r is $15.00 (for anything you
want and that includes shipping). I'm not going to do anything that's still
in print since that's just not right, but I figure out of print stuff isn't
too bad...If you have different suggestions for what you want, let me know.
All 12" remixes are going to be cleaned with Cool Edit Pro and Sound Forge
to reduce the noise from the original source. I hope to have the cds
sounding better than the originals...

All of the remixes come from white labels, promos, deleted or limited
singles and stuff. I do have some Dj mixes, let me know if you want em. If
you want to forward this to other interested mailing lists, that's okay,
but I am trying to keep it low key....=o) Here's a brief listing of the
bands you'll find:

Check out the following page for synth artists:

www.groovemusic.com/synthpop.html

Artists featured: Art of Noise, Baby Ford (Rhythm King), Bananarama,
Beloved, Boxcar, Brilliant, Gray Clail/Tackhead, Dead Or Alive (Fan the
Flame 2, remixes), erasure, Falco, Information Society (Creatures of
Influence, remixes), I Start Counting, Jesus loves You, Madonna, Men
Without Hats (Interview), New order/Electronic (Until the end of time), Pet
Shop boys, Pop Will Eat Itself, Real Life, Re-Flex, Propaganda, Swing Out
Sister, Talk Talk, Lost Tracks and One Hit Synth Wonders...

Electronic artists featured at:

www.groovemusic.com/electronic.html

Artists featured: Altern 8, BT, Richard Dekkard, Sasha, Chemical Brothers,
Fluke, Fortran 5, Hani, KLF, Leftfield, Lionrock, Orb, Orbital, William
Orbit (lots and lots), Prodigy, Rabbit in the Moon, Salt Tank, S'Express,
Spooky, System 7, Underworld, Paul Van Dyk remixes

Take care,

Jon




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From: Nathan Shireman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan - OYE
Date: 25 Feb 1998 08:13:05 -0500 (EST)


You have superbadgirls video on tape.  how do you feel about sharing it
with the rest of us, you know, us losers that don't have the cool
capablities to see Ivan videos, or MWH videos for that matter.

just thought I'd throw that out there,

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From: "C. Scott Kippen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Oglio ROY/FOTE
Date: 25 Feb 1998 11:11:14 -0700 (MST)


Question to all fans out there:

Does Ogilio plan on releasing the twofer in the USA anytime soon?  If not
so, is it available in Germany?

Let me know,

Scott



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From: "Dr. Laura M.B. Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Oglio ROY/FOTE
Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:31:59 +0000


Hi Hatters!

Scott asked . . .

> Does Ogilio plan on releasing the twofer in the USA anytime soon?  If not
> so, is it available in Germany?

As far as I know, Carl is still unable to make the 2-fer available in
North America.  I will be receiving another 30 2-fers soon, and some
are not yet "reserved."  Anyone who wants a 2-fer, write to me with
your snail address and phone number, and I will give you what limited
info I currently have and will put you on my waiting list.

For the people who were on the first list (for the 2-fers from Thomas
Bieler in Germany):  Disks 21-25 just arrived in the country
yesterday, so 26-30 (Nicholas, David, George, Dave, and Dave)
probably just 2 more weeks!!!

People on the new list: (Michael, Kerry, Stephen, Nathan, Jon, Alain,
Chris, and Nick) - no word yet on when yours will be here.  Carl
shipped them last week, so they need to get to England first, then
Mikey will send them to me.  Man, this is complicated!!!

:-) Laura


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From: Ralph Deiterding <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Si
Date: 25 Feb 1998 15:46:31 +0000


Sorry to bother the list again with this, but...

Si:

I still have not been able to get an e-mail to go through to you for
some reason, I've mailed to [e-mail],
[e-mail], and [e-mail]
 with no luck so far!!

Ralph


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Oglio ROY/FOTE
Date: 25 Feb 1998 20:04:02 +0100


>Carl
>shipped them last week, so they need to get to England first, then
>Mikey will send them to me.
thats what you think!!

}:-)
Mike



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Biodome
Date: 25 Feb 1998 16:34:17 EST


In a message dated 98-02-24 20:16:08 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>  Salut mon poisson hollandais!
>
>
>  Francis
>
what about poisoned hollandaise?
*blink*
-C-


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan - OYE
Date: 25 Feb 1998 16:43:20 EST


In a message dated 98-02-25 08:15:56 EST, [e-mail]
writes:

>
>  You have superbadgirls video on tape.  how do you feel about sharing it
>  with the rest of us, you know, us losers that don't have the cool
>  capablities to see Ivan videos, or MWH videos for that matter.
>
>  just thought I'd throw that out there,
>
>  nathan
wooHOO!
count me in!
-C-


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Date: 25 Feb 1998 16:28:22 +0000


I know their name!


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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Dave Mattingly
Date: 25 Feb 1998 20:38:25 -0500


Can someone give me Dave's e-mail address, I lost it.

Can't get onto Claude's Whos Who page......

Dave M., Please e-mail me.
I have a CD#4 for you among other things.  :-)

Tom
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Subject: (hats) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Date: 25 Feb 1998 20:15:30 -0500 (EST)




    Things like [writing a paper], well it scares me half to death,
but I'd still like to sit one right through...
















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From: Senz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan - SBG
Date: 25 Feb 1998 19:55:08 -0700


> >  You have superbadgirls video on tape.  how do you feel about sharing it
> >  with the rest of us, you know, us losers that don't have the cool
> >  capablities to see Ivan videos, or MWH videos for that matter.
> >
> >  just thought I'd throw that out there,
> >
> >  nathan
> wooHOO!
> count me in!
> -C-

Unfortunately, I just don't have the tools to be dubbing videos. (only one
VCR)  But I do realize that we is a nice family and sharing is the proper
thing to do.  :)   I promise (solomly) that you can count on my copy of SBG
when the next fan produced video collection is made.  The current video
collection (to my understanding) is lacking some 3 or 4 MWH videos including
the Freeways video etc.  That with 2 or 3 Ivan videos could make a possible
Video Collection II.  Or a new updated version of the current one.  But I
believe that one is almost stuffed to the limit, yes?
Anyways, all I can offer right now is some still shots I grabbed from the
video using one of those Snappy deals.  I'll post them on my web page for a
few....
In the mean time if anyone has the Freeways video please make yourself
known!!!   Puh-lease!!!

Senz
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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan - SBG
Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:36:41 -0500



> > >  You have superbadgirls video on tape.  how do you feel about sharing
it
> > >  with the rest of us, you know, us losers that don't have the cool
> > >  capablities to see Ivan videos, or MWH videos for that matter.
> > >
> > >  just thought I'd throw that out there,
> > >
> > >  nathan
> > wooHOO!
> > count me in!
> > -C-
>
> Unfortunately, I just don't have the tools to be dubbing videos. (only
one
> VCR)  But I do realize that we is a nice family and sharing is the proper
> thing to do.  :)   I promise (solomly) that you can count on my copy of
SBG
> when the next fan produced video collection is made.  The current video
> collection (to my understanding) is lacking some 3 or 4 MWH videos
including
> the Freeways video etc.  That with 2 or 3 Ivan videos could make a
possible
> Video Collection II.  Or a new updated version of the current one.  But I
> believe that one is almost stuffed to the limit, yes?
> Anyways, all I can offer right now is some still shots I grabbed from the
> video using one of those Snappy deals.  I'll post them on my web page for
a
> few....
> In the mean time if anyone has the Freeways video please make yourself
> known!!!   Puh-lease!!!

I have an unfinished IVAN videotape right now.  I would eventually like to
put "superbadgirls" and "1972" on it as well.  Maybe you can send your
videotape to me so I can dub it, then return it.   Perhaps we should wait,
just in case an Ivan spotlight comes on in the near future.   You never
know.


By the way,
We also need a Living In China video, anyone?????


Senz,
Hold onto that tape.  Be prepared to catch "1972", thats the next one.
:-)


Tom
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) test, delete this
Date: 26 Feb 1998 00:06:45 EST


Just testing, sorry!!!!!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan - SBG
Date: 26 Feb 1998 00:09:08 EST


In a message dated 98-02-25 22:38:04 EST, you write:

<< We also need a Living In China video, anyone?????
  >>
They made a video for this song?  I had no idea! I would absolutely love to
see that...
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From: "Wooldridge, Simon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (hats) Si
Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:03:32 -0000


>Hi everybod-peeps,
>
>I`m still here, my e-mail address hasn`t changed.
>
>Ralph, I have sent you a couple of mails after you first mentioned a little
>while back that you couldn`t get in touch - did you get any of them?
>
>Try replying to this message and lets see what happens.
>
>Si Wooldridge
>
>Senior Systems Equipment Engineer
>Lucent Technologies
>
>[e-mail]
>----------
>Sorry to bother the list again with this, but...
>
>Si:
>
>I still have not been able to get an e-mail to go through to you for
>some reason, I've mailed to [e-mail],
>[e-mail], and [e-mail]
> with no luck so far!!
>
>Ralph
>
>
>
>
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From: Charles Farnum <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Date: 26 Feb 1998 07:34:45 -0500


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From: "Richard Holdman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) 82 cds sent out so far
Date: 26 Feb 1998 08:40:06 +0000


Well everyone has been keeping me busy. :) in the last few weeks
since I offered the boots I have sent out 82 cds. I had no idea that
this many people wanted them!

I have quite a few more of each CD so if you still want any let me
know.

For complete track listing and to see what the artwork looks like
(artwork is in PDF format) go to the mwh mp3 archive at
http://www.holdman.com/mwh

-Richard


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From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Date: 26 Feb 1998 12:44:35 EST





Somehow I do not feel safe around cars, but i still like the feeling of speed.


*and boy, can *I* relate!*   ;)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show
Date: 26 Feb 1998 12:53:11 EST


In a message dated 98-02-19 16:55:28 EST, Francis wrote:

<<
 Hey gang!

 This is Francis,

 I just spoke to Ivan's manager.  Everything is working nice and easy, we
 should have our show in June.

 I have to finalize everything next week.  Before I sign anything, I'll let
 you know the contract.

 Ciao

 Francis>>

OK, Francis, where is it?  It's already Thursday.  Did you see him yet?  Can
you fax me a copy of the unsigned contract so I can give everyone a copy by
email?

What's going on?? Inquiring minds want to know.....
I get bombarded by email from concerned Hatters who would like to book their
trips
NOW!!!!! So, you have to get this thing going!!!

Angie




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (hats) Ivan's private show
Date: 26 Feb 1998 14:40:28 EST


In a message dated 98-02-26 12:55:59 EST, [e-mail] writes:

>
>   Hey gang!
>
>   This is Francis,
>
>   I just spoke to Ivan's manager.  Everything is working nice and easy, we
>   should have our show in June.
>
>   I have to finalize everything next week.  Before I sign anything, I'll let
>   you know the contract.
>
>   Ciao
>
>   Francis>>
>
>  OK, Francis, where is it?  It's already Thursday.  Did you see him yet?
Can
>  you fax me a copy of the unsigned contract so I can give everyone a copy by
>  email?
>
>  What's going on?? Inquiring minds want to know.....
>  I get bombarded by email from concerned Hatters who would like to book
their
>  trips
>  NOW!!!!! So, you have to get this thing going!!!
>
>  Angie
>
>
*innocent expression*

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From: ADTooley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) delete this
Date: 26 Feb 1998 15:44:00 EST


test.


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From: ADTooley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) YEEHAW! MWH RULES!!
Date: 26 Feb 1998 16:02:42 EST


Now delete this.  It's only a test.
:-)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (hats) Test Message from Si
Date: 27 Feb 1998 13:57:52 GMT


Hello,

Just a test message from my other server because my mails don`t appear to
be coming through.

ttfn,

Si
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*  Si Wooldridge                          *
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From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Gone Fishin'..... xD...xD...xD...;)
Date: 27 Feb 1998 13:05:05 EST


Howdy, mad hatters!

just a quick note to letcha'all know i will be out of town til a week from
next monday, as i will be back to play in my ole' stompin' grounds up in the
san fran bay area *yeeHAW!*

anybody that needs to get ahold of me via email (re: cd shipments, concert
booking news, etc.) may do so at the following address:

[e-mail]

i will be checking that address *hopefully* once a day, depending on how full
my dance card is;)

ttyl,
Charlotte


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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) survey
Date: 27 Feb 1998 18:23:25 +0100


I got bored this afternoon at work (well it was Friday after all) so I
came up with the idea of ppl listing their top 5 albums, and giving and
explanation why.  Some of the techies had a pop at my top 5 and were
completely wrong - quite funny really.

So, if you are at all game, list your favourite top 5 albums (not
necessarily in order) with a brief explanation why (2 lines tops - OK,
maybe 3).  You might think of obvious choices like the first album you
bought, the first one you gave away etc but once you have a list _really_
think about it!!!  They dont have to be Hats albums - they didn't get in
my top 5!  I was hard pushed to list just 5, but after 4 hours I gave in
and listed them.  I'll see what other people send in before I tell you
mine - a bit of a shy creature at heart :)

We had quite an afternoon discussing ppl's choices... so give it a whirl!
 If you don't wanna play then go outside and do something else!


}:-)
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From: "Kajjia Gorian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Pop Goes my Patience!
Date: 27 Feb 1998 21:17:00 -0800


NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!   Pop Goes the World is not available ANYWHERE!  I tried
everypalce local, tried CDNow, CDUniverse, Music Boulevard, and they are ALL
sold out.  Anyone have any other suggestions?


Aaron Gitlin
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From: JDivito334 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Ivan's private show - UPDATE
Date: 28 Feb 1998 11:42:50 EST


Hey hatters,

I've been switched to a guy in Toronto that switched me again to the touring
guy in Montreal.

I'm going to meet with him this week.  Could you E-mail me any particular
questions you may have.  I will print those questions and show them to this
guy.

My personnal questions will me:

1- Could we choose the songs we want
2- Could we have other member of MWH on stage (stefan or Collin)
3- Could we have our opening show
4- Coud we tape the show.

Any more questions ??????

For any arangement, leave me an E-mail.

ciao

Francis


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From: "T. Spane" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Pop Goes my Patience!
Date: 28 Feb 1998 08:47:53 -0800 (PST)


If you want you can try A DIfferent Drum.  If he doesn't have it in stock
I'm sure he can get it for you.  Net address is www.adifferentdrum.com
and  his phone number is 801-375-7273.
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From: Bobby Clay <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) An Old Fan
Date: 24 Feb 1998 01:28:26 -0800


Hey Folks,

Been a Hats fan since day one. Have almost all the vinyls, singles, and
CDs. Bought my first CD player back in 1985, along with Rhythm and Folk III
on disc. I attended not only the Folk Of The 80's tour at the Centre
Sportif in 1984 but the 1985 Old Port and Spectrum Freeways Tour as well. I
even had the chance to catch myself full face in the video. In the fall of
1990 I caught the "new" Hats at Foufounes with John Kastner, Mitsou, Felix
Matte, and Away. Just saw Ivan open for Duran at Metropolis in December,
pretty fuckin' cool. Lookin' forward to meeting other fans and trading info
and stories about the Hats. I'd also love to hear a copy of the LIVE Tour
from 1983.

All The Best,

Bobby


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From: "Wooldridge, Simon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Another test message from Si
Date: 27 Feb 1998 15:35:51 -0000


Well, I seem to got in a right pickle with servers at the moment.
Damn IT Department!!

Hopefully this is now sorted and I can resume normal service.

Si Wooldridge

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Lucent Technologies

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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Just got CD #4...
Date: 27 Feb 1998 07:45:25 -0800 (PST)


... and it's amazing... especially the INSERTS! Have all the inserts for
the other fan-made CDs been redone like this? If so, I want copies!

WINNEBAGO SONG! WINNEBAGO SONG!! WINNEBAGO SONG!!!

Also, I have a plea to whoever mastered this concert onto CD: PLEASE MAKE
ME A CD-R COPY OF THE FLOCK OF SEAGULLS HALF OF THIS CONCERT ALBUM!!!!
I am a HUGE Flock fan, but I have absolutely NO live material by them.
If this is at all possible, please contact me at the e-mail address below.

Man, I can't wait for CDs 6 and 7!...

=============================================================================
Don2
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From: Donald Stroud <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) survey
Date: 27 Feb 1998 10:42:09 -0800 (PST)



> So, if you are at all game, list your favourite top 5 albums (not
> necessarily in order) with a brief explanation why (2 lines tops - OK,
> maybe 3).

Oh, I love stuff like this!

Mine are, in no particular order:

1) QUEEN - "Queen II"
    Magical, musical, brilliant, camp, powerful... One of the few
    vinyl albums I've ever had to replace due to extensive play.

2) EBN-OZN - "Feeling Cavalier"
    Fun, surprisingly complex techno-pop that was criminally underrated.
    "AEIOU Sometimes Y" is a work of pop GENIUS. I love quirky music!

3) JELLYFISH - "Spilt Milk"
    The greatest pop album of the 90's. There is so much to listen to
    on this disc: bubblegum, harmonies, soaring guitars... amazing.

4) MILES DAVIS - "Kind Of Blue"
    I just discovered this album last fall. It's one of the few perfect
    albums I've ever listened to. There's nothing else like it.

5) PRINCE - "Lovesexy"
    This was released during a pivotal point in my life. And the musical
    message just can't be ignored. "This is not music... this is a trip."

NEAR-MISSES:

    Men Without Hats - "Pop Goes The World"
    Prince - "Purple Rain"
    The Beach Boys - "Pet Sounds"
    Queen - "A Night At The Opera"
    Cornershop - "When I Was Born For The 7th Time"
    Silver Sun - "Silver Sun"
    Matthew Sweet - "Girlfriend"
    Yes - "The Yes Album"
    A Flock Of Seagulls - "Listen"
    George Michael - "Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1"

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From: Dave Mattingly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) survey
Date: 27 Feb 1998 11:29:03 -0800


It certainly was hard to pare this down to my top 5 albums, but here
they are, and why:

5. They Might Be Giants: Flood. 1990.
    Group: TMBG nasally mixes humor and oddity with bouncy accordion
music.
    Album: This is their best album, IMHO. Almost no dud songs on it.
    Best Song: "We Want a Rock"
4. Jazz Butcher (Conspiracy): Bloody Nonsense. 1986.
    Group: JBC is a literate Brit pop group with excellent songwriting.
    Album: This compilation album was the first of theirs I heard, and
helped me in lonely times.
    Best Song: "President Reagan's Birthday Present"
3. Men Without Hats: Folk of the '80s (Part III). 1984.
    Group: MWH combines moderne dancing with aggressive wisdom.
    Album: Ivan takes a more serious thoughtful turn with this
meaningful album.
    Best Song: "I Know Their Name"
2. King: Bittersweet. 1985?
    Group: King is a synthpop group with bizarre imagery and fantastic
song titles.
    Album: This second and final album was truly bittersweet. I elate
and cry.
    Best Song: "2 M.B." (...and I still don't know what 2 M.B. means)
1. Ed's Redeeming Qualities: It's All Good News. 1991.
    Group: ERQ makes quirky ukulele, violin, and bongo music that makes
you laugh, cry, and think.
    Album: This second album touches my heart and stimulates my mind the
most.
    Best Song: "Lighthouse"

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From: jkriens <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Idea for opening act
Date: 28 Feb 1998 16:03:25 -0500


Hi, Hatters,

The discussion that's been going on about the opening act for the Ivan
fan club show has given me an idea.  Here it is.  Since there is a MWH
covers CD being put together, and most of the people involved are going
to be at the concert, why not have the various groups (or some subset of
them) do their Hats covers as the opening act.  We could set it up like
so everyone uses the same microphones, amps, and drum kit, but brings
their own instruments (keys, guitars, and basses) up with them.  This
would allow us to transitition between artists quite quickly (this is the
same idea they use at most open mike nights).

This would give us the advantage of an opening act that we wouldn't have
to pay.  People would already know the songs.  People would already know
the artists and the interpretations of the songs since the CD would be
readily available to list members.  Finally, it would keep it sort of a
"family" affair since all of the opening artists would be list members.

Comments?

-John

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