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From: Thomas Norman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Promo Package
Date: 24 Dec 1997 18:28:13 -0500


At 08:45 AM 12/24/97 -0800, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>I was wondering if anyone has received this promo package from Martine at
>Tox Records yet?? If so please let us know what was included in it. I
>called and left my address but have never heard back or received anything.
>
>I hope everyone has a great holiday season!
>
>Kirk

I am really really concerned about this myself.  When Martine got my
address, it was over the phone.  She just wrote down what I said on the
phone and said "thank you goodbye".  She didn't verify the spelling or
anything.  She had to of messed up my address.  I was hoping that someone
got this.   Mine has not, or may never, come yet.


Tom
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From: JDivito334 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) ............  Happy holidays!
Date: 24 Dec 1997 20:24:37 EST


Hey Boys and girls!

I just want to express my best wishes to everyone on this list.  Because of
you,  MWH will continue to play on my cd playes for at least 20 more years!

Thanks to everyone,  Peace  and  love for 1998

Francis

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From: mike <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Promo Package
Date: 27 Dec 1997 14:10:51 +0100


>>
>>I was wondering if anyone has received this promo package from Martine at
>>Tox Records yet?? If so please let us know what was included in it. I
>>called and left my address but have never heard back or received anything.
>>
>>I hope everyone has a great holiday season!
>>
>>Kirk
>
>I am really really concerned about this myself.  When Martine got my
>address, it was over the phone.  She just wrote down what I said on the
>phone and said "thank you goodbye".  She didn't verify the spelling or
>anything.  She had to of messed up my address.  I was hoping that someone
>got this.   Mine has not, or may never, come yet.
>
>
>Tom
>[e-mail]

well, i sent her an email and a fax so there should be no cock-up on the
address - I'll keep you all informed...

Tom - Santa has been..  boogie boogie!!


Mike


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From: "Russ Kemsley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH Demos - CD #5
Date: 28 Dec 1997 02:24:40 UT


I have offered to help Tom out with the burning of the new Demo CD. If you
haven't heard these songs yet from the MP3 archive, go get them and listen.
Now...imagine those without that MP3 compression and say to yourself, "I need
this stuff on CD". It's WELL worth it as the quality is fantastic...especially
the ROY demos.

So if you haven't already got something arranged with Tom, reply to me
directly and I will ship one out to you. I am charging the same price as
Tom...$10, including packaging, shipping and Tom's excellent artwork. These
CDs will be identical to Tom's except that my printer only does black & white
so the jewel case will not be quite as exciting :)

I'm only going to make these for the next 2 weeks or so so let me know right
away if you want one.

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From: MAGENTA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) promo pkg's
Date: 28 Dec 1997 19:32:03 -0800 (PST)


hiya mad hatters:D

again, hope everyone's holidays were/are great ones! (still got new year's
ta go, folx;D)

re: promo package.....i left a voice mail msg with martine which i never got
a reply from, so resorted to sending a fax to Tox from my workplace...for
now, i'll have to settle for crossing my fingers..who knows? maybe tommorrow
morning, i may have an extra present waiting at my desk;D will keep you guys
posted, eh?

till next time,
Charlotte

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From: "Howard Abraham" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) MWH Demos - CD #5
Date: 29 Dec 1997 08:13:56 +0000


I received my 3 CD bootleg set from Tom this weekend and it sounds
fantastic!  The quality really exceeded my expectations.  I want to
thank Tom and Russ for making these discs available.

I am also glad that these songs are available on the MP3 archive.  I
have downloaded quite a few of them in anticipation of receiving my
set in the mail and the quality is actually quite good.

Thanks to everyone for making '97 an exceptional year for Hats fans!

--Howard

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From: JDivito334 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Tox package
Date: 29 Dec 1997 19:32:20 EST


Hey!!!

I left a message to Martine me too!!!  in French! and....... No answer, no
reply, NOTHING....

I guess something is wrong here!?!?!?

Ciao

Francis

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From: "Russ Kemsley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD #5 cdplayer.ini entry
Date: 30 Dec 1997 06:40:29 UT


For those of you getting their CDs from me, I have created a cdplayer.ini
entry that will work with Win95's CD Player, FlexiCD and other CD players that
read that file.

To use it:

1. Using Windows Explorer or My Computer, Find your Windows folder and
double-click.
2. Find the file called cdplayer.ini and double-click it.
3. Scroll to the bottom of the file (if it is blank then don't worry about
it).
4. Paste the text at the end of this mail into the file.
5. Save the file.

The next time you run CD Player, etc. the track list should be correct for the
CD.

Enjoy!

[22E8B6A]
EntryType=1
artist=Men Without Hats
title=Demos
numtracks=18
0=Gravity Is My Enemy
1=Living In China (demo version)
2=1999
3=Rhythm Of Youth
4=Ban The Game (demo version)
5=Treblinka
6=Where Do The Boys Go?
7=Unsatisfaction
8=Editions Of You
9=Mother's Opinion
10=I Sing Last/Not For Tears
11=Eurotheme
12=No Dancing
13=Ou Sont Mes Men
14=I Know Their Name
15=Folk Of The Eighties
16=Messiahs Die Young
17=Editions Of You (heavy guitars mix)
order=0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
numplay=18


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From: Alex <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) The Spell / The Various Bootleg CDs...
Date: 30 Dec 1997 12:16:36 -0600 (CST)


Well, I finally picked up The Spell the other day (too many CDs on
shopping lists still to get, ick), and I have to say, I wasn't terribly
impressed with most of it.  Some of the tracks are fantastic, but some
strike me as bad dance music (complete with the female 'diva' voices
going 'whoop! whoop!' it seems).  Is this the direction that Ivan is
beginning to take, or is he trying to move more towards a techno vein,
or what?  Any ideas or comments?

Also, I was poking around through the list archives and watching what's
gone by of late, but I can't seem to find a tracklisting or description
of what is on the 5 (?) bootleg CDs with the exception of the 5th one
(which looks like it is the 'Ultra Rare Tracks' bootleg listed in
the discography).  Out of curiosity, what is on the other ones?  I
ask partly out of curiosity, and partly because I wouldn't mind getting
some of them, but not all (from the descriptions that have gone by
already).

Thanks for your time,

F.
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From: MAGENTA <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) welp....
Date: 30 Dec 1997 09:52:04 -0800 (PST)


now MWH absolutely HAVE to get back together and tour again....
for i am now the proud owner of a slide whistle! :D

ttyl,
Char(don'tmakemebringouttheKAZOO!)lotte   ;)

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From: Vince Silvaggio <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Bootleg #5
Date: 30 Dec 1997 18:55:34 -0500


Hey fellow Hatters!

It came a bit late, but I finally received the famous fifth instalment in
the MWH bootleg saga, and I must tell you all that it's utterly AMAZING!
So thank you Tom for delivering what was once thought of as unobtainable.

BTW, all of you who do not have this CD...when the time comes...JUMP ON THE
OPPORTUNITY.

Later,
Vince


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From: Dave Mattingly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Press Release
Date: 30 Dec 1997 15:24:04 -0500


Could one of our French-speaker list members translate the following?

Thanks,

Dave Mattingly

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The Spell

7 mai 1997 - Montreal. Depuis qu'il a lance entier "You can dance if you
want to", IVAN a ete un leader dans le monde de la musique pop
electronique. Le compositeur et chanteur du groupe qui a conqueri la
planete, Men Without Hats, est encore une fois destine aux sommets des
palmaries avec son tout premier projet solo, The Spell.

A la fin d'etudes en musique electronique a l'Universite McGill, IVAN
fonde le group Men Without Hats qui s'impose d'abord dans l'underground
montrealais avant d'exploser sur la scene internationale avec des titres
tels que Safety Dance (top 10 dans 20 pays) et Pop Goes The World. Leur
immense succes amene son lot de disques d'or et de platine, de
nominations aux Grammy et Juno Awards et de ventes de disques; plus de
4,000,000 d'unites vendues dans le monde. Men Without Hats s'est affirme
comme une force dominante de la scene musicale mondiale des annees 80.

Alors que la musique electronique est une fois de plus identifee comme
etant "The next big thing", IVAN continue, avec The Spell, a evoluer
dans vet environment qui lui est si familier. L'album a ete realise par
le legendaire britannique John Punter dont la liste des realisations
inclut entre autres Roxy Music, Brian Ferry, Japan et Brian Eno. IVAN
nous parle de son experience avec Punter: "Pour moi, l'experience fut
fantastique. C'etait comme aller a l'ecole. C'etait extraordinaire de
travailler avec un maitre qui a realise le moitie de mes meilleurs
albums de tous les temps. John a un impressionant inventaire de sons et
beaucoup d'idees. Il a su elever mes chansons a un autre niveua".

IVAN a enregistre tout l'album lui-meme utilisant en meme temps la plus
nouvelle technologie et des synthetiseurs "calssiques". Seuls deux
choristes et un "rapper" accompagnent IVAN sur The Spell, un album qui
n'est pas pas a la remorque des tendances, il les impose.

"Venant de Montreal, j'ai toujours ete influence par le son Europeen ce
qui veut dire des melodies accrocheuses appuyees per d'omnipresents
"beats dance". C'est une musique exuberent et c'est me facon de
commencer le Grand Dance Party de cette fin de millenaire", avoue IVAN.
"Ce fut le siecle le plus rapide. Le Techno en est tres revelateur. Tout
est axe sue le mouvement. On peut faire tellement de nos jours avec une
souris, le plus recent logicel et de la pop irresistible".

Le premier extrait de l'album, Open Your Eyes, a ete lance en radio d'un
ocean a l'autre de tres belle facon, le 16 avril dernier lorsque des
stations telles CHUM-FM, ENERGY 108, CKOI, CKMF et MIX 96 l'ont ajoute a
leur programmation des sa reception. Le videoclip de Open Your Eyes sera
lance a la mi-mai.

The Spell disponible le 7 mai sur Disques Tox/Uforia, distribue par
Select.

Visitez IVAN sur le site Tox: www.toxrecords.com.

Promotion: Martine Berube chez Tox; 514 522 8402 poste 1.

---

Tox Records inc. 3815 St-Hubert, Montreal (Quebec) Canada H2L 4A4
tel: [phone] fax: [phone]

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From: "Kajjia Goria" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) new
Date: 30 Dec 1997 14:51:17 PST


new mp3's????!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?   yeeeeeeeaaaaaah!
I am at my bros house, and he has a spiffy cable modem.  Unfortunately
it is lagged off its ass.  COuld someone please check out this directory
and tell me whats in it???

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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Subject: (hats) TOX package
Date: 30 Dec 1997 19:11:20 -0600


To all,

As of yet, has ANYONE received one of those alleged "TOX promo
packages"?

C.Campbell

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Translation
Date: 30 Dec 1997 21:59:06 -0500 (EST)


Could one of our French-speaking members please translate the following?

Ou Sont Mes Men

Advance thanks!

Myke

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) CD #5
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:01:59 -0500 (EST)


Hey All and Tom!

I got my copy of CD #5 today and it is truly great!

I think it's funny that Ivan thought back in 1984 that Mick Jagger
didn't know when to call it quits!  (He still doesn't!)  :-)))

"Treblinka" is like really far out!

Tom, how would you like to do a CD of *my* demos next?  :-)

Myke

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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) CD #5
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:08:54 -0500


> Hey All and Tom!
>
> I got my copy of CD #5 today and it is truly great!
>
> I think it's funny that Ivan thought back in 1984 that Mick Jagger
> didn't know when to call it quits!  (He still doesn't!)  :-)))
>
> "Treblinka" is like really far out!
>
> Tom, how would you like to do a CD of *my* demos next?  :-)

Can I really????  :-)

You know, when you make it BIG in 2005, those demos will be priceless.
:-)

Tom
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From: "Tom Norman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) TOX package
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:09:57 -0500


> As of yet, has ANYONE received one of those alleged "TOX promo
> packages"?

No.  I was supposedly the first to have it shipped out, and I haven't got
it either.  :-(

Tom
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From: Fischr Z <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) TOX package
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:22:04 EST


<< As of yet, has ANYONE received one of those alleged "TOX promo
 packages"? >>

Todd must be working for TOX!!!

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Re: CD #5
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:19:39 -0500 (EST)


> Can I really????  :-)

Sure!  As soon as I get them recorded!  :-)

Seriously, though, I am working to finish some original compositions
that I would like to have "released".

> You know, when you make it BIG in 2005, those demos will be priceless.

This sounds like one of those pull quotes they stick somewhere in the
liner notes of albums by artists who actually do make it big.  I will
keep your message in my archives until 2006, just to have it for when
it really does happen!  :-)

Myke

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Where Are My Men?
Date: 30 Dec 1997 23:17:37 -0500 (EST)


Thanks so much, Simon!

But what in the world does that mean?
I'll betcha it's a joke title because that little piece with that name
on CD #5 is an "instrumental" of sorts and very incomplete sounding -
as if half the band was missing at the time or something.

Anybody have any ideas in this regard?

Myke

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From: LORD HASENPFEFFER <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Where Are My Men? (Part II)
Date: 30 Dec 1997 23:19:38 -0500 (EST)


Thanks for the explanation Tom!

I read it after I posted my previous message so it's too late to call
it back.

Myke

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From: "Laura Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Where are my men?
Date: 31 Dec 1997 08:37:23 +0000


Hi hatters!

translator's note: I'm working on Dave's request.

I just saw I'm a bit late with the translation of Ou sont mes men,
so I'll add a footnote.  I believe I understood a certain reliable
but anonymous source to say that this is a snippet from The
Winnebago Song.    :-)

Also, another New Year tidbit for everyone . . .

Nothing happened to Tony.  He got a job in a clothing store when
parachute pants (remember those?) were popular, hence "selling
parachutes."

:-) Laura

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From: "Laura Kramer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Press Release
Date: 31 Dec 1997 09:03:45 +0000


Hi Hatters!!

I'll give it a shot...  If I'm not quite sure, it's in (parens).
Claude, Francis, Anyone?  Help me out here, dudes!!!


> The Spell
[I think we can figure this one out]

> 7 mai 1997 - Montreal. Depuis qu'il a lance entier "You can dance if you
**May 7 [my birthday!] - Montreal.  Since he (single-handedly)
launched "You can dance if you

> want to", IVAN a ete un leader dans le monde de la musique pop
**want to," Ivan has been a leader in the world of electronic pop
music

> electronique. Le compositeur et chanteur du groupe qui a conqueri la
**The composer and singer of the group which conquered the

> planete, Men Without Hats, est encore une fois destine aux sommets des
**planet, MWH, he is once again destined for the summits of

> palmaries avec son tout premier projet solo, The Spell.
**(unknown word) with his first entirely solo project, The Spell.

> A la fin d'etudes en musique electronique a l'Universite McGill, IVAN
**At the end of his studies in electronic music at McGill U., Ivan

> fonde le group Men Without Hats qui s'impose d'abord dans l'underground
**founded the group MWH which first made its mark in the Montreal
underground

> montrealais avant d'exploser sur la scene internationale avec des titres
**before exploding on the international scene with titles

> tels que Safety Dance (top 10 dans 20 pays) et Pop Goes The World. Leur
**such as SD (top 10 in 20 countries) and PGTW.  Their

> immense succes amene son lot de disques d'or et de platine, de
**huge success garnered (actually, AMENER is "to conduct" or
"to direct") for him a lot of gold and platinum records, some

> nominations aux Grammy et Juno Awards et de ventes de disques; plus de
**nominations for the Grammy and Juno awards, and record sales; more
than

> 4,000,000 d'unites vendues dans le monde. Men Without Hats s'est affirme
**4 million copies sold around the world.  MWH affirmed itself

> comme une force dominante de la scene musicale mondiale des annees 80.
**as a dominant force on the world musical scene in the 80s.

> Alors que la musique electronique est une fois de plus identifee comme
**So once more, electronic music is identified as

> etant "The next big thing", IVAN continue, avec The Spell, a evoluer
**being "The next big thing," Ivan continues, with The Spell, to
evolve

> dans vet environment qui lui est si familier. L'album a ete realise par
**in the environment which to him is so familair.  The album was
directed by

> le legendaire britannique John Punter dont la liste des realisations
**the legendary Brit John Punter whose list of director's credits

> inclut entre autres Roxy Music, Brian Ferry, Japan et Brian Eno. IVAN
**includes, among others, (hey, you guys can read).  Ivan

> nous parle de son experience avec Punter: "Pour moi, l'experience fut
**speaks to us about his experience with Punter: "For me, the
experience was

> fantastique. C'etait comme aller a l'ecole. C'etait extraordinaire de
**fantastic.  It was like going to school.  It was extrordinary to

> travailler avec un maitre qui a realise le moitie de mes meilleurs
**work with a master who had directed most of my favorite

> albums de tous les temps. John a un impressionant inventaire de sons et
**albums of all time.  John has an impressive inventory of sounds and

> beaucoup d'idees. Il a su elever mes chansons a un autre niveua".
**lots of ideas.  He has raised my songs to another (level? unknown
word to me)."

> IVAN a enregistre tout l'album lui-meme utilisant en meme temps la plus
**Ivan recorded the entire album himself, simultaneously using the

> nouvelle technologie et des synthetiseurs "calssiques". Seuls deux
**newest technology and "classic" syntehsizers.   Only two

> choristes et un "rapper" accompagnent IVAN sur The Spell, un album qui
**backup singers and a "rapper" accompany Ivan on The Spell, an album
which

> n'est pas pas a la remorque des tendances, il les impose.
**doens't follow in the footsteps of (unknown); it makes them.
[implication is that this is a groundbreaking album]

> "Venant de Montreal, j'ai toujours ete influence par le son Europeen ce
**"Coming from Montreal, I have always been influenced by the
European sound which

> qui veut dire des melodies accrocheuses appuyees per d'omnipresents
**is to say, (ACCROCHUESES unknown word) melodies applied to the
omnipresent

> "beats dance". C'est une musique exuberent et c'est me facon de
**'beats dance.'  It is exuberant music, and it seems to me to be the
way

> commencer le Grand Dance Party de cette fin de millenaire", avoue IVAN.
**to begin the Big Dance Party at the end of the millenium," claims
Ivan.

[Here's where I majorly lose it . . .]

> "Ce fut le siecle le plus rapide. Le Techno en est tres revelateur. Tout
**"This has been the fastest century.  Techno has been very
(revealing?).  All

> est axe sue le mouvement. On peut faire tellement de nos jours avec une
**is an axis for movement.  One can do so much more in our days with
one

> souris, le plus recent logicel et de la pop irresistible".
**mouse, the most recent (unknown word) and irresistable pop."

[OK, I'm back!]

> Le premier extrait de l'album, Open Your Eyes, a ete lance en radio d'un
**The first single from the album, OYE, was launched on the radio
from

> ocean a l'autre de tres belle facon, le 16 avril dernier lorsque des
**coast to coast in a lovely manner, last April 16 while

> stations telles CHUM-FM, ENERGY 108, CKOI, CKMF et MIX 96 l'ont ajoute a
**stations such as [some Canadian radio stations] had added it to

> leur programmation des sa reception. Le videoclip de Open Your Eyes sera
**their programming as soon as they received it.  The video for OYE
will be

> lance a la mi-mai.
**launched in mid-May.

Whew!!!

Bonne Annee, everyone!

:-) Laura


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From: Vince Silvaggio <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Translation help...
Date: 31 Dec 1997 10:29:50 -0500


Hey, Laura, good work with the translation!  Here are the words that eluded
you:

palmares:  charts
niveau:  level
tendences:  trend, habits (you get the idea)
accrocheuses:  hooks
revelateur:  revealing (says a lot)
axe sur le mouvement:  centered around 'the movement'
logiciel:  software

...that concludes today's French lesson, kids.

til next time,
Vince


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From: "Steve Reid" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Press Release
Date: 31 Dec 1997 11:52:22 -0600


Thanks for the translation, Laura!!!!
Cordially,
Rush
[+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+][+]
[+]  A is A  the basic premise of Objectivism [+]
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Remove the "Q" for E-mail...

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From: Dave Mattingly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) Press Release
Date: 31 Dec 1997 15:03:10 -0500


Thanks, Laura and Vince.

I've got the English and French versions online at
http://www.geocities.com/soho/5953/spell.html.

Dave Mattingly

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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) Claudio in Brasil!
Date: 31 Dec 1997 18:52:35 +0000


LORD HASENPFEFFER wrote:
>
> Please resend your file attachments to me in uuencoded form.
> I use a Commodore C128 and it does not decode files encoded as Base64
>
> Myke

I don't have the slightest idea what that means! I published the 'thing"
at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3136/hats88.htm

You should be able to lift it easily (text and background image, I used
the exact same name you choosed). Tell me when you are done with it, I
will delete it. Sorry for the delay! I'm posting to the list as well
because I'm not sure I'm reaching you through your e-mail...

Take care

Claude

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From: Claude GrΘgoire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (hats) about FAQ
Date: 31 Dec 1997 20:22:08 +0000


To Lars Wendt

If you read this, your e-mail address returns an error message! Send me
your new address!

Happy new year everybody!

Claude

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From: HarpiChick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (hats) TOX package
Date: 31 Dec 1997 23:58:20 EST


In a message dated 97-12-30 22:42:04 EST, [e-mail] writes:

> << As of yet, has ANYONE received one of those alleged "TOX promo
>   packages"? >>
>
>  Todd must be working for TOX!!!
>


roflmfao!!!

Charlotte

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