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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #193
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glencook-fans-digest Saturday, July 6 2002 Volume 01 : Number 193
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Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 00:10:12 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
The June mail archives have been posted to the website.
Added a Gallery tab to the website for pictures of Glen.
Trying to get permission for some more pictures.
Added interview with Glen from Boskone 2002.
Anyone know if he's made the trip to Poland yet?
Spain:
"The White Rose" is now available from La Factor=EDa de Ideas.
Russia:
"Passage at Arms / Dragon Never Sleeps" is now available from AST.
An omnibus of Starfishers trilogy to be published next month.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:41:15 +0200
From: "Marcin Welnicki" <szyderca@poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
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>Anyone know if he's made the trip to Poland yet?
He was going (is going) to come to Poland???
Mocker
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Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 15:30:14 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
on 7/5/02 2:41 PM, Marcin Welnicki at szyderca@poczta.onet.pl wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
>
>> Anyone know if he's made the trip to Poland yet?
>
> He was going (is going) to come to Poland???
From The Glen Cook Interview, Feb 2002:
<http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GC-Biog12.html >
"It's also a big hit overseas. There's a big following in Russia, including
a whole pirated translation, which I'm not real happy about. I am the guest
of honor at a convention in Poland. They're flying me over and meeting me
with a limousine at the airport."
Sorry, I don't know anymore than that.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:56:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) new member
Welcome Mike!
>
>I was also interested in the comments regarding POD in the archives.
>I've just gone through a lengthy process with 1st Books library in
>self-publishing an SF/thriller hybrid and its not something to enter
>into without a lot of resolve and not a few bucks.
>
I don't have experience with Print on Demand but I'm very curious
to hear more about your experiences. I think that PoD may work for authors
like Glen Cook in the future.
If you don't mind, could you go into more detail about the costs
(both time and money) that you found necessary to do PoD? What kind of
quality are the books from 1st Books? How much profit does the author
receive from a sale? Can those books be made available through other
book stores like Amazon? Do they really print "on demand" or do they
print a run of books up front for a fee? What would it take for an
author like Glen Cook to submit his books to 1st Books?
Thanks for any info.
Steve
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"Why should I do it?" asks each man in the crowd. "I can do nothing alone."
And they are all lost.
"If I don't do it, who will?" asks the man with his back to the wall.
And they are all saved.
-- Vladimir Bukovsky, _To Build a Castle_: My Life as a Dissenter_
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Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 22:45:42 -0400
From: "Michael Higgins" <mike@huigin.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) new member
I just sent you a lengthy reply. Let me know if you got it.
>
> Welcome Mike!
>
> >
> >I was also interested in the comments regarding POD in the archives.
> >I've just gone through a lengthy process with 1st Books library in
> >self-publishing an SF/thriller hybrid and its not something to enter
> >into without a lot of resolve and not a few bucks.
> >
> I don't have experience with Print on Demand but I'm very curious
> to hear more about your experiences. I think that PoD may work for
authors
> like Glen Cook in the future.
> If you don't mind, could you go into more detail about the costs
> (both time and money) that you found necessary to do PoD? What kind of
> quality are the books from 1st Books? How much profit does the author
> receive from a sale? Can those books be made available through other
> book stores like Amazon? Do they really print "on demand" or do they
> print a run of books up front for a fee? What would it take for an
> author like Glen Cook to submit his books to 1st Books?
> Thanks for any info.
>
>
Steve
>
>
> --
> Steve Chew - schew@interzone.com - http://www.interzone.com
> "Why should I do it?" asks each man in the crowd. "I can do nothing
alone."
> And they are all lost.
> "If I don't do it, who will?" asks the man with his back to the wall.
> And they are all saved.
> -- Vladimir Bukovsky, _To Build a Castle_: My Life as a
Dissenter_
>
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>
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 23:24:14 -0400
From: "Michael Higgins" <mike@huigin.com>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) new member
Okay, it looks like my first effort didn't make it through. Here's another.
Hi! In case my first effort didn't get through, let me try a shorter
version.
Yes, Cooks books would do very well with a POD publisher like
1stBooks.com and I have allready recommended to another person with
control of the rights to a deceased author's works that she consider
that route to keep his works in print for all time (or at least until
electrons stop spinning).
Simply put, you pay the POD publisher a fee to put your book in a format
of your choice. This could be a .pdf ebook or some other ebook format
depending on the POD company---1stBooks apparently uses only .pdf Adobe
files because of the penetration of Adobe Acrobat into just about every
damn computer in the world. There are also softcover and hardcover
formats available most places, but the quality is open to question. My
book, TELL NO TALES, appears in .pdf and softcover format on the
1stBooks page (http://www.1stBooks.com/bookview/9922) but I opted
against the hardcover because I considered it would be too costly to
sell. This would most likely not be a problem for Cook, since his fans
would undoubtedly buy whatever he published in whatever format he chose.
The cost of doing this are steep. Around $600 initially for me, and
there are other subsequent costs that applied to me that probably
wouldn't affect Cook. There is a fee for revisions after the first or
second galleys that applies to errors by the author (they don't charge
you if they screw up) BUT reprinting a previously edited book would
hardly call for much revision other than hunting down and correcting the
inevitable mistakes in transcription. The works would have to be
transcribed into WORD or WORDPERFECT format, unless Cook allready has
them in one of those formats. You then send a disk with the book (and a
check) and you are off and running.
1stBooks sends you a notice explaining what the base price of the book
has to be to cover the setup costs and you, as the author, determine the
final price depending on your selfconfidence and the liklihood of your
book generating a demand.
The books are available direct from 1stBooks.com and also through
Amazon, Barnes and Noble and Borders, as well as other individual and
chain bookstores. They are available, but you will have to ORDER them,
as they are printed to order, and that can be a problem since many of
the store clerks haven't a clue what POD is all about. They will tell
you the book is out of print (duh, of course it is--it won't be printed
until you order it) or unavailable (which is outright wrong). You have
to insist and if you do, lo and behold, the system will take the order.
The cost at the store will be higher than from 1stBooks.com direct BUT
you usually would not have to pay the shipping costs to Amazon, et al,
which is a substantial savings. It cost me $3.95 each to mail copies to
people I'm hoping will help me market it, and it cost 1stBooks more than
that to UPS an individual copy to a buyer. USPS bookrates are lower but
I distrust sending anything that way except First Class, and even then I
worry.
So, Glen Cook and POD? A natural, same as it would be for A.E.Van Vogt
or Cordwainer Smith or Roger Zelazny or any of the giants of the field
(IMHO) that are now hard to find, and increasingly little known. Can we
persuade people like Cook to go this route? Hardly likely, until they
are backlisted out of the field by the growth of the megapublishers who
can only justify sure and certain blockbusters like Stephen King and Tom
Clancy to the folks who look only to the bottom line.
Publishing is increasingly finding itself in the position of the guy who
knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing. The sadder part
is they know the value of the works they have to pass over but it is
really out of their control, which has to be horribly frustrating. POD
is an interesting alternative for people like me who love to write, have
some spare bucks to invest, and aren't afraid to look like fools at
times. Whether it will become a haven for fine writers dropped from
traditional publishers because of beancounting remains to be seen.
But hey, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Mike Higgins, author (j.g.)
BUY MY BOOK DAMMIT!
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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:19:32 +0200
From: "Marcin Welnicki" <szyderca@poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) Monthly Mailing List Info
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
> "It's also a big hit overseas. There's a big following in Russia,
including
> a whole pirated translation, which I'm not real happy about. I am the
guest
> of honor at a convention in Poland. They're flying me over and meeting me
> with a limousine at the airport."
Ill have to look in that :)
Mocker
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