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From: owner-glencook-fans-digest@lists.xmission.com (glencook-fans-digest)
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Subject: glencook-fans-digest V1 #134
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glencook-fans-digest Tuesday, September 4 2001 Volume 01 : Number 134
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:07:51 -0700
From: "S. Hill" <forvalaka@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
<html>
A<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite cite>=A0<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Now that Red Foxx is dead there can be no Blac=
k
Company movie, for he was the one true One-Eye. =3D(=A0 Short, crotchity,
melodramatic, and mean.=A0 Fred Sanford =3D=20
One-Eye.</font></blockquote><br>
<br>
<font size=3D3> I agree on Red Foxx wholeheartedly.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite cite>=A0<br>
</font><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Marylin Manson as the Dominator?=A0 The
Dominator was supposed to be a) very handsome b) heavily muscled c) very
tall.=A0 Manson meets none of these.=A0 He was killin people with raw
strength in the White Rose.=A0 Prolly just need to find some unknown for
him since he will have a 5 minute part at best.</font></blockquote><br>
<font size=3D3>
The more I think about that, you are right, I was thinking Manson along
the lines of the just out of the crypt psycho bad god. He was handsome
before, but the centuries writhing in the crypt had taken their toll.
manson could be a slinky creep like Nightcrawler maybe. I personally
despise Manson, but he does have that undead look about him. Maybe the
guy who was Dracula in the sleeper Dracula 2000.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Steve</font></html>
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:45:34 -0700
From: Pat & Ellen Hannum <hanmac@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: (glencook-fans) For everyone
gwen1 wrote:
> At your service, Pat:
*-)
> Ummm..... We Poles love Napoleon dearly. One of our favorite heroes. Can't
> speak for the Russians.... Wanna ask what percentage of Napoleon's armies
> were polish? I'll try to look it up for you.
I forgot that you look at him as a liberator. Killed a ton of russians without
any warning and marched on Moscow and Killed a ton of his own.
Lets see, slaughtered Prussians buy the city, Swedes and Lower Balkan
Slavs by the city. But he was a "great" liberator, as long as you joined
his empire. Sounds like Croaker and the Lady to me. Join us or we will
rip your throat out.
> > > People voluntarily joined up with Napoleon. Romans
> > > definately didn't loathe Ceasar.
> >
> > They only killed him, but they didn't loathe him.... ;-)
>
> Ahh, great nation, Romans. To overthrow your dictator... To me it's a proof
> of Romans being highly educated not only in poetry and tactics, but also
> republican virtues. Tell me: are there many nations so politically conscious
> even of today?
Most Arab Countries still look at Assassination as part of the Political
process. India on the Local area, not national.
> > You canna even evaluate someone from 5 years ago by that. :-0
> > I canna claim anyone was not evil, not even good 'ol Joan of Arc.
> > Caesar's claim to fame was his military brilliance in Gaul, again
> > an impressive body count. Napoleon, military, Attila? The scour
> > of God? All of the above killed without remorse and for no greater
> > reason than to further their glory. Not their country's, not to save
> > the lives of their countrypersons, but for their own Glory.
> > I know that that puts most of the "greats" into this column, but
> > it's how I look at it...
> >
> Ufff.... everything you said is true. Still, please divide these people in
> tewo groups. The Before Republic, and the Republic Era.
No reason to do that. a Despot is a Despot. Be it pre Republic
or post Republic.
> You see, long, long
> time ago, the king was the owner of his/her land, and everything in it. As
> time passed, people changed thet. Now you don't really consider yourself
> bound to the service of your ruler, right?
No, I did my term of service. I'm a bit of a throw back. I owe the country
that allows me to live in it free and write subversive things like this. 8-)
> So Napoleon started out by
> working on his military career, but to get to the highest power, he had to
> promise something to the citizens. Only then he claimes the empire.
No, he had it planned and was upset over the overthrow of the King.
He also catered to the military. Gave them a chance at "glory".
> Ceasar lived at the dawn of citizenship.
What? are yea Mad lady? He became a dictator. He
ended the Republic! Augustus followed in his footsteps.
> Now, Attila, Charles, Hammurabi and the famous rest, were dead sure, that it
> was their backyard they played in. They were acquairing new territories. And
> their countrypersons didn't even care- no such idea was before the Greek
> democracies. All you had to do was to stick to your work. Period.
Or they killed you. Temples were a wonderful thing.
> Howgh!
Hey, I like this a new expression, gotta write this down.
I don't get to see this often. Thank you!
>
> [looking up: my, my??? what am I doing? I just wrote a historiosophical
> essay??? Try Norman Davies' book about Poland. There's much about Napoleon,
> and great people sacrificing themselves for their countrypeople.He gets this
> straight. ]
I read and studied history for 4 years in college. I can cite you
different views from different writers. It all depends on what
country they are from and are trying to prove.
> gwen
>
Thank you, Lady Gwen. I enjoy a good argument / discussion.
But I think others would wish we took this elsewhere, so we should
end or remove this from the list. Nice to discuss this without getting
cheesed off at each other.....
Pat
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 17:13:20 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <shpshftr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: (glencook-fans) For everyone
on 9/3/01 4:45 PM, Pat & Ellen Hannum at hanmac@uswest.net wrote:
> But I think others would wish we took this elsewhere, so we should
> end or remove this from the list. Nice to discuss this without getting
> cheesed off at each other.....
Well, I found the discussion interesting with the different viewpoints.
But maybe you could turn it back to the Black Company by say summing up with
something like "The Lady is most like Napolean because...." and "The
Dominator is most like _______ because ....". That might be helpful to us
historical illiterates.
Not that I expect any agreement. :)
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:42:36 -0500
From: Pete Flugstad <pete_flugstad@icon-labs.com>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Off-Topic: historical literates
Eric Herrmann wrote:
> That might be helpful to us historical illiterates.
Like me...
Since you uttered it, I'll follow up quickly: while you two
are summarizing the relevance to the BC, can either of you
recommend any good "general" history books that goes back
say, 10,000 years, and traces history up to present day,
with major personalities, accomplishments, etc? Some type
of overview. I often see references to famous historical
personages (Hammurabi for example), or places (Tyrr - or
whatever that city is off the coast of Lebannon or thereabouts)
that I know the name of, but I don't know the historical
significance of. It's what I get for reading great books like
the Janissaries series by Pournelle.
I know I'm asking a lot, but any recommendations on where to
start? Ain't American historical education wonderful... even
a major in Comp Sci at a "Liberal Arts" college let me avoid
history (although I did take a great class in Russian/Soviet
history, mostly rendered moot by events about the time I was
taking it (or shortly thereafter). :-/
Heck, any newsgroup FAQs I can check?
Thanks,
Pete
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:18:56 +0200
From: "Anna Nowakowska" <gwen1@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: (glencook-fans) For everyone
> I read and studied history for 4 years in college. I can cite you
> different views from different writers. It all depends on what
> country they are from and are trying to prove.
>
Yes. Well. Whatever.
> >
>
> Thank you, Lady Gwen. I enjoy a good argument / discussion.
> But I think others would wish we took this elsewhere, so we should
> end or remove this from the list. Nice to discuss this without
getting
> cheesed off at each other.....
Hehehe. Thank you and you're welcome. Funny how this time it worked
out [evil grin].
>
Gwen
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:20:29 +0200
From: "Anna Nowakowska" <gwen1@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: Odp: Odp: Odp: (glencook-fans) For everyone
Aaa!? No, please. No more essays. Napoleon rules. You're all great.
Gwen
> > But I think others would wish we took this elsewhere, so we should
> > end or remove this from the list. Nice to discuss this without
getting
> > cheesed off at each other.....
>
> Well, I found the discussion interesting with the different
viewpoints.
>
> But maybe you could turn it back to the Black Company by say
summing up with
> something like "The Lady is most like Napolean because...." and "The
> Dominator is most like _______ because ....". That might be helpful
to us
> historical illiterates.
>
> Not that I expect any agreement. :)
>
> --
> Eric Herrmann
> <shpshftr@xmission.com>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:27:07 +0200
From: "Anna Nowakowska" <gwen1@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Off-Topic: historical literates
As you requested: {drums} tada!: I recommend my all-time-
favorite: "Europe" by Norman Davies. It is huge, but written in a
very modern style. You can browse it as you choose, no need to read
boring chapters after chapters in search of one tiny bit of info.
This gives you all the informations on ancient history of the
Eouropean peoples. I also read "Africa" by a group of authors, but
this one os aliitle to detailed for my taste.
In return, please recommens something on North American history. It's
quite mysterious to me.
Gwen
> Since you uttered it, I'll follow up quickly: while you two
> are summarizing the relevance to the BC, can either of you
> recommend any good "general" history books that goes back
> say, 10,000 years, and traces history up to present day,
> with major personalities, accomplishments, etc? Some type
> of overview. I often see references to famous historical
> personages (Hammurabi for example), or places (Tyrr - or
> whatever that city is off the coast of Lebannon or thereabouts)
> that I know the name of, but I don't know the historical
> significance of. It's what I get for reading great books like
> the Janissaries series by Pournelle.
> I know I'm asking a lot, but any recommendations on where to
> start? Ain't American historical education wonderful... even
> a major in Comp Sci at a "Liberal Arts" college let me avoid
> history (although I did take a great class in Russian/Soviet
> history, mostly rendered moot by events about the time I was
> taking it (or shortly thereafter). :-/
>
> Heck, any newsgroup FAQs I can check?
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:36:49 +0200
From: "Marcin Welnicki" <szyderca@poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Odp: (glencook-fans) Most Evil Character
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From: Wright Frazier <khelek@home.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Most Evil Character
> Spoilers and such....
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> Catcher was most definately evil, however you are missin why she doesn't
get
> #1. Her whole schtick was revenge on lady. She'd never have gone so far
as
> to kill Lady and let the game end.
she though she killed her and the company( not imprisoned them)
So she might have been nuts, but her goal was the game with
> Lady. She'd have not gone to the length Croaker did.
so it makes her less evil? because she ONLY played a game? And you think if
she had the power to destroy the world( and the company who was on this
world), she wouldnt do it? its pretty naive I think
Mocker
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:13:23 -0700
From: Sam Roberts <Sam.Roberts@apollogrp.edu>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
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I'm very much a fan of Michael Clark Duncan and Ving Rhames but I tend =
to
think they're a little to beefy for the roles of Mogaba and Sindawe. I
always got the impression that they were lean, mean fighting machines, =
more
slender and sinewy than huge and muscled out. Maybe that was all in my
head. I would pick someone like Djimon Hounsou (Juba from Gladiator, =
Cinque
from Amistad) instead. A moot point though, since any movie would =
likely
just be based on The Black Company and not include Mogaba until well =
into
sequel territory. I actually envision these books done more justice as =
a
lengthy, gritty, complex miniseries event ala SciFi channels ambitious =
(yet
strangely mediocre) Dune. =20
=20
As for lady, I also think Uma Thurman is way off base and have to give =
the
big thumbs down to Madelaine Stowe, both excellent actors but =
physically
wrong for the role. Uma is too light and willowy and Madelaine a =
little too
old. Lady, late in the series always appeared, young, fresh and =
nubile. I
also seem to recall her being a pretty well put together dark haired =
beauty.
Although I'm not a huge fan of her work, as far as name actors go, I =
think
Catherine Zeta Jones fits the physical bill the best. If I were =
casting
this thing, however I would probably look for a talented unknown. Keep =
in
mind that Lady isn't an actual physical presence in The Black Company =
until
well into the book, I think keeping her off screen and mysterious until
unveiling a new hottie ing=E9nue would work well. =20
=20
Tommy Lee Jones - love him! Although I think I'd rather see him as the
Captain, he fits my mental picture better.
=20
Johnny Depp - I see him more as a Raven than Croaker, but Croaker's a
toughie for me, I find myself unable to settle on someone for him, =
although
I occasionally consider Michael Ironside and then think I'd be happy =
just to
see him play one of the more interesting and cutthroat members of the
Company like maybe Silent.
=20
Dennis Hopper would make a great Limper, good call! I went way the =
other
direction and was thinking Steve Buscemi. He could do creepy so well
although he's just funny looking enough for Goblin.
=20
Elmo: Clancy Brown (Highlander's the Kurgan, Starship Troopers' =
Sergeant
Zim)
=20
Wow, that was longer than I intended. Can you tell I'm a movie geek?
=20
=20
Sam
=20
=20
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From: Wright Frazier [mailto:khelek@home.com]=20
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:17 PM
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
=20
Now that Red Foxx is dead there can be no Black Company movie, for he =
was
the one true One-Eye. =3D( Short, crotchity, melodramatic, and mean. =
Fred
Sanford =3D One-Eye.
=20
Marylin Manson as the Dominator? The Dominator was supposed to be a) =
very
handsome b) heavily muscled c) very tall. Manson meets none of these. =
He
was killin people with raw strength in the White Rose. Prolly just =
need to
find some unknown for him since he will have a 5 minute part at best.
=20
Mogaba? Not Michael Clark Duncan. He can't do menacing badness well. =
He'd
make a great Sindawe who was a much nicer guy with an incredible =
physique.
Vingh Rhames on the other hand is who I always think of when I think of
Mogaba. (Marcelles Wallace in Pulp Fiction, Shad in Striptease). Ving =
does
menacing badass _VERY_ well.
=20
Wright
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From: S. <mailto:forvalaka@cableone.net> Hill=20
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
<mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com> =20
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
>About to change the subject...
>I would like to see the BC book series made into an animated movie
>series...maybe done like Final Fantasy movie?
>~Dreamer
>
>___________________________
>
>Or like "The Fellowship of the Ring" that's to be released. If there =
were=20
>to be such a movie who do you think would be best to cast in the major =
>roles?
>
>For starters, I can imagine Joe Peschi or Danny DiVito as Goblin. =
One-Eye,
>I'm not sure. I'd cast for Limper the actor who was the villain in =
"Speed"
>and "Blue Velvet." Can't remember his name off hand. Harrison Ford =
as=20
>Croaker? He can be broody yet driven. Uma Thurman as Lady or =
Soulcatcher.
>The tall guy from the Green Mile/Planet of Apes is a shoe in for =
Magoba.
>
Gee, this topic again. Although Dennis Hopper is a good choice for
Limper, I could see Anthony Hopkins pulling it off too, especially in
'Raker' when the mask is pulled off and he sips tea. Liam Neeson would =
be a
decent Silent, as he can look expressive and sinister. If Danny Glover =
lost
weight he could be a great One-Eye, if a little tall. Mark Wahlberg,
although I hate to admit it, *could* pass as Raven, or Daniel Baldwin, =
if
he lost some weight. Johnny Depp could be aged a bit (he always looks
young) to play the Croaker of the first trilogy. Marilyn Manson as the
Dominator? No need to waste money with make-up, he brings his own. =
James
Woods as the Captain? Maximilian Schell would be a suitable Raker. =
Christina
Ricci can be a bit sinister and with some work might work out as
Lady/Soulcatcher. Rob Zombie is a great Shapeshifter in my opinion.
Undertaker as Bonegnasher.=20
Ultimately, a Final Fantasy or Heavy Metal 2000 style movie would =
work
for me too, as costs wouldn't be too prohibitive, thus not taking as =
long to
produce as live action. With the Lightwave program, Exile Films is =
doing a
great job with the Warhammer 40K movie.
Just some opinions,
Steve
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'm=20
very much a fan of Michael Clark Duncan and Ving Rhames but I tend to =
think=20
they're a little to beefy for the roles of Mogaba and Sindawe. I =
always=20
got the impression that they were lean, mean fighting machines, more =
slender and=20
sinewy than huge and muscled out. Maybe that was all in my =
head. I=20
would pick someone like Djimon Hounsou (Juba from Gladiator, Cinque =
from=20
Amistad) instead. A moot point though, since any movie would =
likely=20
just be based on The Black Company and not include Mogaba until well =
into sequel=20
territory. I actually envision these books done more =
justice as=20
a lengthy, gritty, complex miniseries event ala SciFi channels =
ambitious=20
(yet strangely mediocre) Dune. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As for=20
lady, I also think Uma Thurman is way off base and have to give the big =
thumbs=20
down to Madelaine Stowe, both excellent actors but physically wrong for =
the=20
role. Uma is too light and willowy and Madelaine a little too =
old. =20
Lady, late in the series always appeared, young, fresh and =
nubile. I also=20
seem to recall her being a pretty well put together dark haired =
beauty. =20
Although I'm not a huge fan of her work, as far as name actors go, =
I think=20
Catherine Zeta Jones fits the physical bill the best. If I were =
casting=20
this thing, however I would probably look for a talented unknown. =
Keep in=20
mind that Lady isn't an actual physical presence in The Black Company =
until well=20
into the book, I think keeping her off screen and mysterious until =
unveiling a=20
new hottie ing=E9nue would work well. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Tommy=20
Lee Jones - love him! Although I think I'd rather see him as the =
Captain,=20
he fits my mental picture better.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Johnny=20
Depp - I see him more as a Raven than Croaker, but Croaker's a toughie =
for me, I=20
find myself unable to settle on someone for him, although I =
occasionally=20
consider Michael Ironside and then think I'd be happy just to see him =
play one=20
of the more interesting and cutthroat members of the Company like maybe =
Silent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Dennis=20
Hopper would make a great Limper, good call! I went way the other =
direction and was thinking Steve Buscemi. He could do creepy so =
well=20
although he's just funny looking enough for Goblin.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Elmo:=20
Clancy Brown (Highlander's the Kurgan, Starship Troopers' Sergeant=20
Zim)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Wow,=20
that was longer than I intended. Can you tell I'm a movie=20
geek?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Sam</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D263184816-04092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Wright Frazier=20
[mailto:khelek@home.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 03, 2001 =
1:17=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
(glencook-fans) BC Movie<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now that Red Foxx is dead there can =
be no Black=20
Company movie, for he was the one true One-Eye. =3D( Short, =
crotchity,=20
melodramatic, and mean. Fred Sanford =3D One-Eye.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Marylin Manson as the =
Dominator? The=20
Dominator was supposed to be a) very handsome b) heavily muscled c) =
very=20
tall. Manson meets none of these. He was killin people =
with raw=20
strength in the White Rose. Prolly just need to find some =
unknown for=20
him since he will have a 5 minute part at best.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mogaba? Not Michael Clark =
Duncan. He=20
can't do menacing badness well. He'd make a great Sindawe who =
was a much=20
nicer guy with an incredible physique. Vingh Rhames on the =
other hand is=20
who I always think of when I think of Mogaba. (Marcelles =
Wallace in Pulp=20
Fiction, Shad in Striptease). Ving does menacing badass _VERY_=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wright</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dforvalaka@cableone.net =
href=3D"mailto:forvalaka@cableone.net">S.=20
Hill</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dglencook-fans@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com">glencook-fans@lists.xmi=
ssion.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 02, =
2001 6:31=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: (glencook-fans) =
BC=20
Movie</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV>>About to change the subject...</DIV>
<DIV>>I would like to see the BC book series made into an =
animated=20
movie</DIV>
<DIV>>series...maybe done like Final Fantasy movie?</DIV>
<DIV>>~Dreamer</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>>___________________________</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>>Or like "The Fellowship of the Ring" that's to be =
released. =20
If there were </DIV>
<DIV>>to be such a movie who do you think would be best to cast =
in the=20
major </DIV>
<DIV>>roles?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>>For starters, I can imagine Joe Peschi or Danny DiVito as=20
Goblin. One-Eye, </DIV>
<DIV>>I'm not sure. I'd cast for Limper the actor who was =
the=20
villain in "Speed" </DIV>
<DIV>>and "Blue Velvet." Can't remember his name off =
hand. =20
Harrison Ford as </DIV>
<DIV>>Croaker? He can be broody yet driven. Uma =
Thurman as=20
Lady or Soulcatcher. </DIV>
<DIV>>The tall guy from the Green Mile/Planet of Apes is a shoe =
in for=20
Magoba.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV><BR>
<DIV> Gee, this topic again. Although Dennis =
Hopper is a=20
good choice for Limper, I could see Anthony Hopkins pulling it off =
too,=20
especially in 'Raker' when the mask is pulled off and he sips =
tea.=20
Liam Neeson would be a decent Silent, as he can look expressive and =
sinister. If Danny Glover lost weight he could be a great One-Eye, =
if a=20
little tall. Mark Wahlberg, although I hate to admit it, =
*could* pass=20
as Raven, or Daniel Baldwin, if he lost some weight. Johnny =
Depp could=20
be aged a bit (he always looks young) to play the Croaker of the =
first=20
trilogy. Marilyn Manson as the Dominator? No need to waste money =
with=20
make-up, he brings his own. James Woods as the Captain? Maximilian =
Schell=20
would be a suitable Raker. Christina Ricci can be a bit sinister =
and with=20
some work might work out as Lady/Soulcatcher. Rob Zombie is a great =
Shapeshifter in my opinion. Undertaker as Bonegnasher. </DIV><BR>
<DIV> Ultimately, a Final Fantasy or Heavy Metal 2000 =
style=20
movie would work for me too, as costs wouldn't be too prohibitive, =
thus not=20
taking as long to produce as live action. With the Lightwave =
program, Exile=20
Films is doing a great job with the Warhammer 40K =
movie.</DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV>Just some opinions,</DIV>
<DIV>Steve</DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:17:20 -0400
From: AndersNJ@bscmail.buffalostate.edu
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
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hmmm some good points but I have a few things that I think I dissagree =
with.
=20
Ok #1 I think that if BC were ever going to become a reality for the =
big
screen or the small screen you would have to use less known/Not known
actors/actresses. This is simply on the fact that you want to focus =
more on
the storyline then on the characters. Although Croaker is the main =
element
in the first couple books, and you would wanna convey his cynicism, you
wouldnt want someone large to play the part. =20
=20
that said.... I think that clancy brown would work for elmo. for =
Raven, I
see more of a brooding person, and although johnny depp could do it, I =
dont
think he would be a good raven.
I dont think that ms jones would be a good pick for the lady. I have =
always
seen the lady more of a very light skinned northern beauty. Such as =
someone
from ireland or scotland, that has very pale skin, with just a hint of
color, and very black/raven wavy hair. Catherine zeta jones, while
absolutely beautiful, I feel has too dark of a complexion to fit that.
=20
How about this though, for toadkiller's human counter part (cant =
remember if
he had a name off the top of my head, and im one book behind on the =
re-read)
Ron Perlman. I think his presence would work with that very well :)
=20
awright thats my 2 bits
=20
later
nick
=20
- -----Original Message-----
From: Sam Roberts [mailto:Sam.Roberts@apollogrp.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:13 PM
To: 'glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
I'm very much a fan of Michael Clark Duncan and Ving Rhames but I tend =
to
think they're a little to beefy for the roles of Mogaba and Sindawe. I
always got the impression that they were lean, mean fighting machines, =
more
slender and sinewy than huge and muscled out. Maybe that was all in my
head. I would pick someone like Djimon Hounsou (Juba from Gladiator, =
Cinque
from Amistad) instead. A moot point though, since any movie would =
likely
just be based on The Black Company and not include Mogaba until well =
into
sequel territory. I actually envision these books done more justice as =
a
lengthy, gritty, complex miniseries event ala SciFi channels ambitious =
(yet
strangely mediocre) Dune. =20
=20
As for lady, I also think Uma Thurman is way off base and have to give =
the
big thumbs down to Madelaine Stowe, both excellent actors but =
physically
wrong for the role. Uma is too light and willowy and Madelaine a =
little too
old. Lady, late in the series always appeared, young, fresh and =
nubile. I
also seem to recall her being a pretty well put together dark haired =
beauty.
Although I'm not a huge fan of her work, as far as name actors go, I =
think
Catherine Zeta Jones fits the physical bill the best. If I were =
casting
this thing, however I would probably look for a talented unknown. Keep =
in
mind that Lady isn't an actual physical presence in The Black Company =
until
well into the book, I think keeping her off screen and mysterious until
unveiling a new hottie ing=E9nue would work well. =20
=20
Tommy Lee Jones - love him! Although I think I'd rather see him as the
Captain, he fits my mental picture better.
=20
Johnny Depp - I see him more as a Raven than Croaker, but Croaker's a
toughie for me, I find myself unable to settle on someone for him, =
although
I occasionally consider Michael Ironside and then think I'd be happy =
just to
see him play one of the more interesting and cutthroat members of the
Company like maybe Silent.
=20
Dennis Hopper would make a great Limper, good call! I went way the =
other
direction and was thinking Steve Buscemi. He could do creepy so well
although he's just funny looking enough for Goblin.
=20
Elmo: Clancy Brown (Highlander's the Kurgan, Starship Troopers' =
Sergeant
Zim)
=20
Wow, that was longer than I intended. Can you tell I'm a movie geek?
=20
=20
Sam
=20
=20
- -----Original Message-----
From: Wright Frazier [mailto:khelek@home.com]=20
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:17 PM
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
=20
Now that Red Foxx is dead there can be no Black Company movie, for he =
was
the one true One-Eye. =3D( Short, crotchity, melodramatic, and mean. =
Fred
Sanford =3D One-Eye.
=20
Marylin Manson as the Dominator? The Dominator was supposed to be a) =
very
handsome b) heavily muscled c) very tall. Manson meets none of these. =
He
was killin people with raw strength in the White Rose. Prolly just =
need to
find some unknown for him since he will have a 5 minute part at best.
=20
Mogaba? Not Michael Clark Duncan. He can't do menacing badness well. =
He'd
make a great Sindawe who was a much nicer guy with an incredible =
physique.
Vingh Rhames on the other hand is who I always think of when I think of
Mogaba. (Marcelles Wallace in Pulp Fiction, Shad in Striptease). Ving =
does
menacing badass _VERY_ well.
=20
Wright
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: S. <mailto:forvalaka@cableone.net> Hill=20
To: glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com
<mailto:glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com> =20
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) BC Movie
>About to change the subject...
>I would like to see the BC book series made into an animated movie
>series...maybe done like Final Fantasy movie?
>~Dreamer
>
>___________________________
>
>Or like "The Fellowship of the Ring" that's to be released. If there =
were=20
>to be such a movie who do you think would be best to cast in the major =
>roles?
>
>For starters, I can imagine Joe Peschi or Danny DiVito as Goblin. =
One-Eye,
>I'm not sure. I'd cast for Limper the actor who was the villain in =
"Speed"
>and "Blue Velvet." Can't remember his name off hand. Harrison Ford =
as=20
>Croaker? He can be broody yet driven. Uma Thurman as Lady or =
Soulcatcher.
>The tall guy from the Green Mile/Planet of Apes is a shoe in for =
Magoba.
>
Gee, this topic again. Although Dennis Hopper is a good choice for
Limper, I could see Anthony Hopkins pulling it off too, especially in
'Raker' when the mask is pulled off and he sips tea. Liam Neeson would =
be a
decent Silent, as he can look expressive and sinister. If Danny Glover =
lost
weight he could be a great One-Eye, if a little tall. Mark Wahlberg,
although I hate to admit it, *could* pass as Raven, or Daniel Baldwin, =
if
he lost some weight. Johnny Depp could be aged a bit (he always looks
young) to play the Croaker of the first trilogy. Marilyn Manson as the
Dominator? No need to waste money with make-up, he brings his own. =
James
Woods as the Captain? Maximilian Schell would be a suitable Raker. =
Christina
Ricci can be a bit sinister and with some work might work out as
Lady/Soulcatcher. Rob Zombie is a great Shapeshifter in my opinion.
Undertaker as Bonegnasher.=20
Ultimately, a Final Fantasy or Heavy Metal 2000 style movie would =
work
for me too, as costs wouldn't be too prohibitive, thus not taking as =
long to
produce as live action. With the Lightwave program, Exile Films is =
doing a
great job with the Warhammer 40K movie.
Just some opinions,
Steve
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<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>hmmm
some good points but I have a few things that I think I dissagree
with.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ok #1
I think that if BC were ever going to become a reality for the big screen or the
small screen you would have to use less known/Not known actors/actresses.
This is simply on the fact that you want to focus more on the storyline then on
the characters. Although Croaker is the main element in the first couple
books, and you would wanna convey his cynicism, you wouldnt want someone large
to play the part. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>that
said.... I think that clancy brown would work for elmo. for Raven, I see
more of a brooding person, and although johnny depp could do it, I dont think he
would be a good raven.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I dont
think that ms jones would be a good pick for the lady. I have always seen
the lady more of a very light skinned northern beauty. Such as someone
from ireland or scotland, that has very pale skin, with just a hint of color,
and very black/raven wavy hair. Catherine zeta jones, while absolutely
beautiful, I feel has too dark of a complexion to fit that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How
about this though, for toadkiller's human counter part (cant remember if he had
a name off the top of my head, and im one book behind on the re-read) Ron
Perlman. I think his presence would work with that very well
:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>awright thats my 2 bits</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>later</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>nick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747201118-04092001></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sam Roberts
[mailto:Sam.Roberts@apollogrp.edu]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 04, 2001
1:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: (glencook-fans) BC Movie<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm
very much a fan of Michael Clark Duncan and Ving Rhames but I tend to think
they're a little to beefy for the roles of Mogaba and Sindawe. I always
got the impression that they were lean, mean fighting machines, more slender
and sinewy than huge and muscled out. Maybe that was all in my
head. I would pick someone like Djimon Hounsou (Juba from Gladiator,
Cinque from Amistad) instead. A moot point though, since any movie
would likely just be based on The Black Company and not include Mogaba until
well into sequel territory. I actually envision these books
done more justice as a lengthy, gritty, complex miniseries event ala
SciFi channels ambitious (yet strangely mediocre) Dune.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As
for lady, I also think Uma Thurman is way off base and have to give the big
thumbs down to Madelaine Stowe, both excellent actors but physically wrong for
the role. Uma is too light and willowy and Madelaine a little too
old. Lady, late in the series always appeared, young, fresh and
nubile. I also seem to recall her being a pretty well put together dark
haired beauty. Although I'm not a huge fan of her work, as far as
name actors go, I think Catherine Zeta Jones fits the physical bill the
best. If I were casting this thing, however I would probably look for a
talented unknown. Keep in mind that Lady isn't an actual physical
presence in The Black Company until well into the book, I think keeping her
off screen and mysterious until unveiling a new hottie ingΘnue would work
well. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tommy Lee Jones - love him! Although I think I'd rather see him
as the Captain, he fits my mental picture better.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Johnny Depp - I see him more as a Raven than Croaker, but Croaker's a
toughie for me, I find myself unable to settle on someone for him, although I
occasionally consider Michael Ironside and then think I'd be happy just to see
him play one of the more interesting and cutthroat members of the Company like
maybe Silent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dennis Hopper would make a great Limper, good call! I went way
the other direction and was thinking Steve Buscemi. He could do creepy
so well although he's just funny looking enough for
Goblin.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Elmo: Clancy Brown (Highlander's the Kurgan, Starship Troopers'
Sergeant Zim)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Wow,
that was longer than I intended. Can you tell I'm a movie
geek?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sam</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=263184816-04092001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Wright Frazier
[mailto:khelek@home.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 03, 2001 1:17
PM<BR><B>To:</B> glencook-fans@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
(glencook-fans) BC Movie<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now that Red Foxx is dead there can be no Black
Company movie, for he was the one true One-Eye. =( Short, crotchity,
melodramatic, and mean. Fred Sanford = One-Eye.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Marylin Manson as the Dominator? The
Dominator was supposed to be a) very handsome b) heavily muscled c) very
tall. Manson meets none of these. He was killin people with raw
strength in the White Rose. Prolly just need to find some unknown for
him since he will have a 5 minute part at best.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mogaba? Not Michael Clark Duncan.
He can't do menacing badness well. He'd make a great Sindawe who was a
much nicer guy with an incredible physique. Vingh Rhames on the other
hand is who I always think of when I think of Mogaba. (Marcelles
Wallace in Pulp Fiction, Shad in Striptease). Ving does menacing
badass _VERY_ well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wright</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=forvalaka@cableone.net href="mailto:forvalaka@cableone.net">S.
Hill</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: (glencook-fans) BC
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<DIV>>About to change the subject...</DIV>
<DIV>>I would like to see the BC book series made into an animated
movie</DIV>
<DIV>>series...maybe done like Final Fantasy movie?</DIV>
<DIV>>~Dreamer</DIV>
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<DIV>>___________________________</DIV>
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<DIV>>Or like "The Fellowship of the Ring" that's to be released.
If there were </DIV>
<DIV>>to be such a movie who do you think would be best to cast in the
major </DIV>
<DIV>>roles?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>>For starters, I can imagine Joe Peschi or Danny DiVito as
Goblin. One-Eye, </DIV>
<DIV>>I'm not sure. I'd cast for Limper the actor who was the
villain in "Speed" </DIV>
<DIV>>and "Blue Velvet." Can't remember his name off hand.
Harrison Ford as </DIV>
<DIV>>Croaker? He can be broody yet driven. Uma Thurman as
Lady or Soulcatcher. </DIV>
<DIV>>The tall guy from the Green Mile/Planet of Apes is a shoe in for
Magoba.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV><BR>
<DIV> Gee, this topic again. Although Dennis Hopper is a
good choice for Limper, I could see Anthony Hopkins pulling it off too,
especially in 'Raker' when the mask is pulled off and he sips tea.
Liam Neeson would be a decent Silent, as he can look expressive and
sinister. If Danny Glover lost weight he could be a great One-Eye, if a
little tall. Mark Wahlberg, although I hate to admit it, *could*
pass as Raven, or Daniel Baldwin, if he lost some weight. Johnny
Depp could be aged a bit (he always looks young) to play the Croaker of
the first trilogy. Marilyn Manson as the Dominator? No need to waste money
with make-up, he brings his own. James Woods as the Captain? Maximilian
Schell would be a suitable Raker. Christina Ricci can be a bit sinister
and with some work might work out as Lady/Soulcatcher. Rob Zombie is a
great Shapeshifter in my opinion. Undertaker as Bonegnasher. </DIV><BR>
<DIV> Ultimately, a Final Fantasy or Heavy Metal 2000 style
movie would work for me too, as costs wouldn't be too prohibitive, thus
not taking as long to produce as live action. With the Lightwave program,
Exile Films is doing a great job with the Warhammer 40K
movie.</DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV>Just some opinions,</DIV>
<DIV>Steve</DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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