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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:34:35 -0500
From: "Mike Ehlers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Dread Empire question

Considering how much some of the used editions of the DE are going for -- I'm
amazed that some publisher hasn't re-released these books.  it would seem like a
quick way to make a buck for the publisher and for GC.

Mike




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Speaking of questions to ask Glen at Albacon...

Is there any plans/thoughts about re-releasing the Dread Empire books as a
3-in-1 omnibus paperback edition [as has been done for works by Bujold &
Cherryh, amongst others], to try and build (publisher) interest for further DE
books?  The apparently high online demand for those titles could help convince
a publisher.  And a bonus inclusion of some of the short fiction might create
sales amongst people who already have the novels [or alternately, the bulk of
the short fiction could be included with the prequels in a second omnibus].

Just a thought.

Craig

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:06:34 -0500
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) cleverness

Heather,

Your mention of a D&D game based on the Black Company reminds me of the
thread I started earlier (that Eric referred to yesterday): cleverness
in the BC books.

I think that's one of the draws of the Black Company--the reliance on
small bits of magic and (usually) relatively small-sized forces with
large amounts of cleverness and deception to leverage their small forces
to a much larger impact than their adversaries anticipate.  As I said
before, I think this is because we, as readers, can feel this is
something we could do ourselves--we can't use magic or command large
forces, but we *can* be clever (or even devious, if we wish) in the
employment of what forces we do marshall.

(This still leaves unaddressed the question, is the Black Company
*really* clever, or do we just enjoy Cook telling us that it is?  And
what does it mean, anyway, for a fictional character "really" to be clever?)

I was thinking, when I wrote on this idea origionally, of cleverness in
"real life" situations, though possibly including adversarial contexts.
But probably a lot of us enjoy fantasy simulations of the D&D variety;
and in my years of gaming, I recall cleverness being one of the most
exciting strategies to employ, much more enjoyable than hack-and-slash.

Does this strike a resonance with what draws you to Cook's writing?

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:16:18 -0600
From: Matthew Roche <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question

hey everyone, here's another dread empire question. i've been thinking of
this for a while, but never got around to suggesting it, thinking that it
would be dead in the water. the responses to the demographic survey over the
past few days have made me rethink.

so here goes...

why don't we (we being the body of persons who are active on this list)
commission glen cook to finish the dread empire sequels?

but wait, you say, cook has said that he won't write any more... i remember
seeing a posting from many months ago that he actually was refusing to write
any more books that he wasn't getting paid for, and that his publishers
weren't interested in any more dread empire books, but that they would pay
$40K for any black company or garret book and $15 for any other. i hope i'm
remembering this correctly...

so, why did the demographic survey make me ask this question? most of the
responses that i read (including my own) had "software developer" or "IT" or
some similar high-tech field in the job section. most high-tech jobs these
days pay very well...

so here's my question: does anyone else on the list (i asked my wife first
before i stepped out on the limb here) want to read these novels well enough
to commission glen cook to write them? it is possible that for $15K (yes,
that is a *lot* of money, but divide it by 30 or 45 people and it seems like
a lot less) we could be able to convince him to write the final book (or
books?) and maybe such an action would have a positive impact on cook's
overall success, such as convincing his publisher that an omnibus edition of
the existing dread empire books would be worthwhile.

if you are interested (please notice that i have not mentioned or even
considered any of the logistics involved... i'm just a programmer after all
;-] ) please reply to the list. i know that someone (i'm sorry, but i can't
remember who it was) is going to make up a list of questions to ask mr. cook
at an upcoming convention, and i think that this has the potential to be the
most exciting question of all "will you accept a commission from your fans
to write the remaining dread empire books, and what would it take?"

even if you are not interested, please share your thoughts...

(fingers crossed)

matthew

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:59:12 -0400
From: Jay DeSimone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Male, 26, Copy Editor/Proofreader in Wilmington, DE.

First read BC in 1994...Purely randomly.  I didn't like reading single novels...I
was into series, and there were several books in this series, so I took a stab.
Haven't looked back since, but have often looked forward to the next release.  I
spent several years looking for the next book "Glittering Stone." I had up
to/including Dreams of Steel, which says "to becontinued in Glittering Stone."  I
took that as the title.  I went to bookstores, looking for copies of this book,
asked if it was available, and never found anything.  I began to wonder if
perhaps the author died, leaving the series unfinished.  Then, one day, I did an
author search on amazon.com, and found not only Bleak Seasons, but also She is
the Darkness.  I started the series over from the beginning, figuring I had time
to re-read what I had by the time the new books came.  Unfortunately, the new
books came before I was finished, but managed to finish re-reading before picking
up BS.  Of course, I then realized what "Glittering Stone" meant at the end of
DoS, and naturally, copies of both books began surfacing in EVERY bookstore I
went into.  I had never seen either book at a bookstore until after I ordered
them...and I checked every time I went into a bookstore...a frequent happening
for me.

So that's my story.  Hope I didn't bore you all.

Jay



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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:11:14 -0500
From: "Jordan Raney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Well, since everyone else is doing this I guess I will too.

I'm an 18 year old male from Minnesota.  I'm a first year student here at
the U of M Twin Cities with a major of "undecided"....  Since I'm a college
student I make hardly any money and don't maintain a full time job, mainly
just living off the loans.  I didn't see Star Wars in the theater, because
obviously I am too young, but I don't really feel deprived because I find it
horrid anyway.  I don't fit "cookreader's" idea of a good Cook reader, but
then again I don't give a damn.

JR


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:23:21 -0400
From: Jay DeSimone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

Jordan Raney wrote:

>   I didn't see Star Wars in the theater, because
> obviously I am too young, but I don't really feel deprived because I find it
> horrid anyway.

Horrid?  Horrid?  Begone, Heathen!

Kidding.


Jay


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:28:12 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

In a message dated 9/13/00 6:14:10 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>I don't fit "cookreader's" idea of a good Cook reader, but
>then again I don't give a damn.

I have no real idea of what a "good Cook reader" should be, and the
line about Star Wars was an afterthought, a throw-away line, not
something meant to define the demographic of a typical Cook reader,
but rather what I viewed MY demographic as. No judgements were
intended.

Actually, you're a perfect example of what I felt the typical Cook
reader was. Glad to see I was wrong, since I was starting to feel
too old to be reading these (again, and again, and...).

I think this thread has allowed us to introduce ourselves. So it has
served a good purpose (and while marked OT has been pretty on
topic).

I have to be diplomatic all day long, so forgive me if I occasionally get
blunt. I figure as long as I don't get more offensive than Cook I'm in
safe waters.

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:44:38 -0500
From: "Jordan Raney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

> I have to be diplomatic all day long, so forgive me if I occasionally get
> blunt. I figure as long as I don't get more offensive than Cook I'm in
> safe waters.
>

Ya, sorry I was a little harsh too.  I shouldn't ever respond too e-mail
after a rough day, because it always comes out from my bad side.


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:57:16 -0400
From: "Pardoz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales

On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:32:37 -0600, Eric Herrmann wrote:

>> I just thought it was pretty kewl. Are there any other creatures, items that
>> cross series like that in Cook's writings?
>
>Not that I'm aware of.

    One name crosses over - Boroba Thring.  Shows up in the Dread
Empire, _The Heirs of Babylon_, and, I b'lieve, somewhere else too.


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:23:32 -0400
From: David Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question

Personally I'd be happy to pay $500 towards a new Dread Empire novel.

Obviously paying Cook is a small part of the overall cost of a printed
book, not to mention the editing -- not that I really know how much his
books change after he first sends them off to the editor.

I assume in this case the book would be published electronically so the
main question I have is how much Cook likes & benefits from being
edited... Not to mention whether he's allowed to write books on his own
(I'm not too familiar with book contracts).

- --
Dave


Matthew Roche wrote:
>
>
> so here's my question: does anyone else on the list (i asked my wife first
> before i stepped out on the limb here) want to read these novels well enough
> to commission glen cook to write them? it is possible that for $15K (yes,
> that is a *lot* of money, but divide it by 30 or 45 people and it seems like
> a lot less) we could be able to convince him to write the final book (or
> books?) and maybe such an action would have a positive impact on cook's
> overall success, such as convincing his publisher that an omnibus edition of
> the existing dread empire books would be worthwhile.
>

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:26:03 -0600
From: "Amy Weathers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question

I am a poor as beans State Gonvernment Empolyee, however,  I'd be happy to
provide you all with all the moral support you may need in this project.
;)

Amy (very helpful)




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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:31:24 -0400
From: "Andrew Skowronski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics

This is a really fascinating topic.
If you think about it, part of the reason
we are on this list is because we're
curious about who else likes these
books.

I think the 25+, mostly 30+ age
response makes sense because Black Company
series started way way back and it
would be pretty hard for a casual young
reader to find them all (or pay for them all...)

Anyway, enough analysis, I'll add to the
statistics, I'm ...er... 27 or so, starting
to lose track.  Computer Programmer in Canada,
Salary is in Canadian bucks so its not that
great.  Read BC when I was about twelve, still
my favorite book.  My Wife
has read them enthusiastically too, so
there is definitely a female demographic.




- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Nicholas J
Thalasinos
Sent: September 11, 2000 11:51 AM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) OT: Demographics


Male, 37, Seperated :(  I have 2 sons. Saw Star Wars in the theatre (15 or
16 times!)
Health Inspector Down here Cape May County, NJ.  AVID AD&D/D&D player. Enjoy
surfing on the 'Net (obviously).

I also hate statistics, since they are so easy to manipulate to support any
view or agenda :)


> So I am 30, male, single, make around $25,000, live in the midwest (US for
> those...),
> been reading Cook for two years, but I get the feeling that I am probably
> one
> of the
> oldest people on this list. While my sex insures that I am with the
> majority,
> I somehow
> get an impression few of those out there are employed fulltime or are as
old
> as me
> (somehow I have no problem reconciling singleness with being a Cook
reader).
> Anyway,
> just wondering how many others are in my demographic.
>
> christopher....
>
> p.s. if your weren't old enough to see Star Wars in the theater the first
> time you're
> not in the demographic.
>
>


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:47:49 -0600
From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Windwhales

on 9/13/00 9:57 AM, Pardoz at [e-mail] wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:32:37 -0600, Eric Herrmann wrote:
>
>>> I just thought it was pretty kewl. Are there any other creatures, items that
>>> cross series like that in Cook's writings?
>>
>> Not that I'm aware of.
>
> One name crosses over - Boroba Thring.  Shows up in the Dread
> Empire, _The Heirs of Babylon_, and, I b'lieve, somewhere else too.

One other name shows up a lot, but not as a character, Torquemada.

- --
Eric Herrmann
<[e-mail]>


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:25:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question

In a message dated 9/13/00 3:11:03 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>why don't we (we being the body of persons who are active on this list)
>commission glen cook to finish the dread empire sequels?

Let me step up to bash the idea. As far as I know, no one on this list is
a professional publisher, so basically you're asking Cook to trust a bunch
of amateurs that have no qualifications other than that they are fans
of his.

If writing a DE book were economically feasible those with the highly paid
number crunchers would be doing it.

If I were Cook and offered a choice between a contract with Tor or
a handful of cash to write another book in a failed series...well, the
choice isn't hard. No way in hell you'd get me to write a NEW book.

I can take a lot more time to tear down the idea if you really like,
with arguments such as "where would the incentive be to write a
book that would have no promotions, no publisher with a track record,
or no chance at making the bestseller lists," or "why would Cook be
the first writer to do this in hundreds of years (you're proposing
the old system of patronage)," or "How much money do you think
you could get?" But rather than flesh them out I'll leave you to do
so. And don't get me started on electronic publishing.

This said....

My guess is that you will see new DE books. Cook now has the level of
popularity where he would start seeing some reissues. I could see NEFSA
picking up the earlier books (or mishla-merlin [sp? can't remember the
spelling] or Tor. I'm guessing that some time in the new ten years you
will see an Omnibus or a trade reissue.

If these book were re-released and did well Cook will write more. Glen
is now making it into hard cover. This means Tor is seeing the sales
to make this viable.

I'd write Tor, expressing interest, or better write Cook c/o Tor. He could
then take this box of letters in when it came time to negotiate a new
contract (to whatever publisher he feels would most likely do it).

christopher....


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:51:01 -0500
From: "Richard Gruver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

AAARRRHHHG!!! Come on there has to be some old fart out there older than me.
Unless I missed it I'm the oldest member of the group (at least the oldest
to respond). Come on, someone out there lie about your age and make feel
less like the old Fogey than I am probably becoming. My wife says the cover
of She Is The Darkness looks like me and Michael Jackson so maybe I'm about
ready to get nailed to the throne.
  Richard
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Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question


>
> In a message dated 9/13/00 3:11:03 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
> >why don't we (we being the body of persons who are active on this list)
> >commission glen cook to finish the dread empire sequels?
>
> Let me step up to bash the idea. As far as I know, no one on this list is
> a professional publisher, so basically you're asking Cook to trust a bunch
> of amateurs that have no qualifications other than that they are fans
> of his.
>
> If writing a DE book were economically feasible those with the highly paid
> number crunchers would be doing it.
>
> If I were Cook and offered a choice between a contract with Tor or
> a handful of cash to write another book in a failed series...well, the
> choice isn't hard. No way in hell you'd get me to write a NEW book.
>
> I can take a lot more time to tear down the idea if you really like,
> with arguments such as "where would the incentive be to write a
> book that would have no promotions, no publisher with a track record,
> or no chance at making the bestseller lists," or "why would Cook be
> the first writer to do this in hundreds of years (you're proposing
> the old system of patronage)," or "How much money do you think
> you could get?" But rather than flesh them out I'll leave you to do
> so. And don't get me started on electronic publishing.
>
> This said....
>
> My guess is that you will see new DE books. Cook now has the level of
> popularity where he would start seeing some reissues. I could see NEFSA
> picking up the earlier books (or mishla-merlin [sp? can't remember the
> spelling] or Tor. I'm guessing that some time in the new ten years you
> will see an Omnibus or a trade reissue.
>
> If these book were re-released and did well Cook will write more. Glen
> is now making it into hard cover. This means Tor is seeing the sales
> to make this viable.
>
> I'd write Tor, expressing interest, or better write Cook c/o Tor. He could
> then take this box of letters in when it came time to negotiate a new
> contract (to whatever publisher he feels would most likely do it).
>
> christopher....
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:01:30 -0500
From: Tom Duncan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

Well Richard I am 42, does that help?
Tom

Richard Gruver wrote:

> AAARRRHHHG!!! Come on there has to be some old fart out there older than me.
> Unless I missed it I'm the oldest member of the group (at least the oldest
> to respond). Come on, someone out there lie about your age and make feel
> less like the old Fogey than I am probably becoming. My wife says the cover
> of She Is The Darkness looks like me and Michael Jackson so maybe I'm about
> ready to get nailed to the throne.
>   Richard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question
>
> >
> > In a message dated 9/13/00 3:11:03 PM, [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > >why don't we (we being the body of persons who are active on this list)
> > >commission glen cook to finish the dread empire sequels?
> >
> > Let me step up to bash the idea. As far as I know, no one on this list is
> > a professional publisher, so basically you're asking Cook to trust a bunch
> > of amateurs that have no qualifications other than that they are fans
> > of his.
> >
> > If writing a DE book were economically feasible those with the highly paid
> > number crunchers would be doing it.
> >
> > If I were Cook and offered a choice between a contract with Tor or
> > a handful of cash to write another book in a failed series...well, the
> > choice isn't hard. No way in hell you'd get me to write a NEW book.
> >
> > I can take a lot more time to tear down the idea if you really like,
> > with arguments such as "where would the incentive be to write a
> > book that would have no promotions, no publisher with a track record,
> > or no chance at making the bestseller lists," or "why would Cook be
> > the first writer to do this in hundreds of years (you're proposing
> > the old system of patronage)," or "How much money do you think
> > you could get?" But rather than flesh them out I'll leave you to do
> > so. And don't get me started on electronic publishing.
> >
> > This said....
> >
> > My guess is that you will see new DE books. Cook now has the level of
> > popularity where he would start seeing some reissues. I could see NEFSA
> > picking up the earlier books (or mishla-merlin [sp? can't remember the
> > spelling] or Tor. I'm guessing that some time in the new ten years you
> > will see an Omnibus or a trade reissue.
> >
> > If these book were re-released and did well Cook will write more. Glen
> > is now making it into hard cover. This means Tor is seeing the sales
> > to make this viable.
> >
> > I'd write Tor, expressing interest, or better write Cook c/o Tor. He could
> > then take this box of letters in when it came time to negotiate a new
> > contract (to whatever publisher he feels would most likely do it).
> >
> > christopher....
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:32:09 -0500
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

Richard,

Hmm, did I miss something?  I thought I was the oldest reporting in thus
far, at 49.

Steve

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 01:44:50 -0400
From: "Scott Vandenberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Future Cons- was Re: Windwhales

you probably have tried already, but, just in case... try ebay or
www.abebooks.com  I had great success at getting all of GC's books.
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From: "Amy Weathers" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Future Cons- was Re: Windwhales


> I would be very happy to get a copy of October's Baby.  I would be more
than
> willing to pay shipping/handling/cost of book/whatever.
>
> I have October's Baby on several wanted lists at used books stores in my
> home area.  This has been the case for the last eight or so years.
>
> Amy
>
>
> -
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 02:05:17 -0400
From: "Scott Vandenberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

Well I am 82.... no wait I'm just 28 and dyslexsic(sp).
I am from Deer Park, NY and presently live in Tallahassee, FL  with my wife
and daughter.  I am an Audio Engineer at a theatre at Florida State
University.  I first read GC's Black Company in 1990. I was introduced to it
by my best friend in college.  He is now my brother-in-law ( married my
sister).  I can't thank him enough (for the GC recomendation, not marring my
sister).  I have introduced GC to my wife and she loves BC books as much as
I do.  Another friend said," I have this great book you should read,  The
Dragon Never Sleeps by Glen Cook."  That day he handed me that and I handed
him BC  and now we both have read all of GC stuff( I am reading Darkwar
trilogy now).

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From: "Richard Gruver" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:51 PM
Subject: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)


> AAARRRHHHG!!! Come on there has to be some old fart out there older than
me.
> Unless I missed it I'm the oldest member of the group (at least the oldest
> to respond). Come on, someone out there lie about your age and make feel
> less like the old Fogey than I am probably becoming. My wife says the
cover
> of She Is The Darkness looks like me and Michael Jackson so maybe I'm
about
> ready to get nailed to the throne.
>   Richard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 9/13/00 3:11:03 PM, [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > >why don't we (we being the body of persons who are active on this list)
> > >commission glen cook to finish the dread empire sequels?
> >
> > Let me step up to bash the idea. As far as I know, no one on this list
is
> > a professional publisher, so basically you're asking Cook to trust a
bunch
> > of amateurs that have no qualifications other than that they are fans
> > of his.
> >
> > If writing a DE book were economically feasible those with the highly
paid
> > number crunchers would be doing it.
> >
> > If I were Cook and offered a choice between a contract with Tor or
> > a handful of cash to write another book in a failed series...well, the
> > choice isn't hard. No way in hell you'd get me to write a NEW book.
> >
> > I can take a lot more time to tear down the idea if you really like,
> > with arguments such as "where would the incentive be to write a
> > book that would have no promotions, no publisher with a track record,
> > or no chance at making the bestseller lists," or "why would Cook be
> > the first writer to do this in hundreds of years (you're proposing
> > the old system of patronage)," or "How much money do you think
> > you could get?" But rather than flesh them out I'll leave you to do
> > so. And don't get me started on electronic publishing.
> >
> > This said....
> >
> > My guess is that you will see new DE books. Cook now has the level of
> > popularity where he would start seeing some reissues. I could see NEFSA
> > picking up the earlier books (or mishla-merlin [sp? can't remember the
> > spelling] or Tor. I'm guessing that some time in the new ten years you
> > will see an Omnibus or a trade reissue.
> >
> > If these book were re-released and did well Cook will write more. Glen
> > is now making it into hard cover. This means Tor is seeing the sales
> > to make this viable.
> >
> > I'd write Tor, expressing interest, or better write Cook c/o Tor. He
could
> > then take this box of letters in when it came time to negotiate a new
> > contract (to whatever publisher he feels would most likely do it).
> >
> > christopher....
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:09:02 +0000
From: tslefman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (glencook-fans) RE: OT Demographics

I'm 26 from Missouri.  My wife and I grew up here.  I do bookkeeping and
she teaches.  We have a son.
I have read all BC except for SL and that is on reserve at the library.
I have not read the Garrett files, as I want Tin, Gold, Copper, and
Quicksilver before I start them.  I've read Sung in Blood and I'm
reading the Swordbearer now.
(seen all of the star wars movies in the theatres.  original and new
editions).

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:06:45 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

In a message dated 9/13/00 11:02:40 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>Well Richard I am 42, does that help?

And someone (who I won't out) wrote me to say that he was 59 (almost
60), so I'm guessing he wins.

christopher....

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:24:37 -0700
From: "Tim McDowell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)


> Richard,
>
> Hmm, did I miss something?  I thought I was the oldest reporting in thus
> far, at 49.
>
> Steve
>
    And I'm right behind you at 48.
        Tim



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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:16:52 -0500
From: "Richard Gruver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)

No, so far I'm the oldest to admit it, I'm 53.

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Harris <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) Re: (demographics)
>
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > Hmm, did I miss something?  I thought I was the oldest reporting in thus
> > far, at 49.
> >
> > Steve
> >
>     And I'm right behind you at 48.
>         Tim
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:38:37 -0300
From: Richard Chilton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) When did "Lady" fall in love?

Bob Dalgleish wrote:
>
> Lady got the name the old fashioned way - research.
>
> Even though Darling's whole village was wiped out, as well as her family,
> she was still traceable. Tying together Darlings' advent at the village
> (time and place taken from Croaker, et al, memory), then start searching
> for refugee's from the village, and remote kin. At least that is how I
> would do it, if I were queen of the world.
>

If that didn't work, well, Lady was into necromancy (contacting the
dead, seeing the future).  She knows where the village was, and almost
everyone in that village would know what that mute girl's name was.

Richard

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:39:20 -0400
From: "Gary Burner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question

Christopher,

A variation on this theme: how about a dutch auction, i.e. mercata.com, for
the legendary DE book that has already been written but never published?
For example, would TOR or NEFSA agree to publish the book if 1000(?) people
agreed to pay $50.00(?) in advance for the first printing?  If not enough
people agreed in advance, then the book does not get published.  If more
than 1000 people agreed in advance to buy the book, then the price would go
lower.  The level of interest could be determined by having mercata.com, or
some other site, conduct a dutch auction with deposits being taken to
determine actual interest in purchasing the book.  The deposit could be held
in an escrow account until the book is actually published.

Do you think a professional publisher would be interested in the idea above?
How many guaranteed sales dollars would be required to interest a publisher
like TOR?

Gary

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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: (glencook-fans) A Different but Related Dread Empire question


>
> In a message dated 9/13/00 3:11:03 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
> >why don't we (we being the body of persons who are active on this list)
> >commission glen cook to finish the dread empire sequels?
>
> Let me step up to bash the idea. As far as I know, no one on this list is
> a professional publisher, so basically you're asking Cook to trust a bunch
> of amateurs that have no qualifications other than that they are fans
> of his.
>
> If I were Cook and offered a choice between a contract with Tor or
> a handful of cash to write another book in a failed series...well, the
> choice isn't hard. No way in hell you'd get me to write a NEW book.
>
>
> This said....
>
> My guess is that you will see new DE books. Cook now has the level of
> popularity where he would start seeing some reissues. I could see NEFSA
> picking up the earlier books (or mishla-merlin [sp? can't remember the
> spelling] or Tor. I'm guessing that some time in the new ten years you
> will see an Omnibus or a trade reissue.
>
>
> christopher....



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