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fractint-digest       Monday, September 27 1999       Volume 01 : Number 416




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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:15:34 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question

Les wrote:

> The bad news, however, is that sometimes (in my experience) the restored screen
> starts mutating all over again and there is no chance of getting back any of the
> images! This happens to about one in four of the evolver screens that I save. I
> should report this as a bug (Robin are you reading??).

Please report this to the bug report web page. It's OK to discuss
bugs here but don't assume that discussing them here means we
see the messages. (Very often we don't read all the messages.)

The bug report page is:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm

Tim


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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:27 0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question

Hi Alice,
>Is there a way to investigate more than one window per screen?

Yep, if you hit 'S'  when a selection box isn't showing, i.e. before hitting
pageup, you should save the whole set and be able to reload it later to
carry on exploring the parameter space.

Hope this helps,
                        Robin.


P.S. I'm thinking of adding the capability of storing the evolver details
in
a par file, could be useful :-)





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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:53:45 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) v20.0 - potential bug report

Mark wrote:

> Kerry Mitchell's starnear_man formula is misbehaving -
> or at least behaving differently - under v20.0 compared
> with v19.6.  Can anyone confirm this?

I have traced this down to an optimization we made to the fast
(assembler) parser. We can fix this by backing out the
optimization. Meanwhile adding the debug=90 option works around
the bug by disabling the fast parser.

I also want to do some tests of complex formulas that aren't broken
to see if the optimization buys us much speed.

Thanks very much to Mark and Kerry. I'd very much like to hear of
any other formulas that behave differently between 19.6 and 20.0.

Tim


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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:30:17 +0100
From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Parameter Explorer question

> The bug report page is:
>
> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/robin.b2/buglist.htm

Thank you Tim.
Noted and reported!

- - Les


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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:55:57 +0200
From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.

Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
shall play.

Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at

http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
<http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>

This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested
it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier.

I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
images/screens option.

If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
liked it or not...)


Thore Berntsen
Norway
Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>





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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:06:57 +0200
From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.

The download link doesn't work. (Not Found 404)

http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.zip


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
>
>
> Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
> that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
> shall play.
>
> Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
>
http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
<http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>

This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested
it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier.

I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
images/screens option.

If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
liked it or not...)


Thore Berntsen
Norway
Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>





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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:15:14 -0400
From: BILL RAY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.

Sorry to tell you but the site does not work for me - I do not speak
Norwegian and apparently the site has nothing to do with Fractint anyway.
Probably a simple typo.

Thore Berntsen wrote:

> Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
> that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
> shall play.
>
> Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
>
> http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
> <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>
>
> This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I have tested
> it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than earlier.
>
> I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
> images/screens option.
>
> If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
> You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
> liked it or not...)
>
> Thore Berntsen
> Norway
> Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:31:54 +0200
From: Randall Britten <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.

Seems to be fixed now.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.
>
>
> Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays images
> that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars Fracint
> shall play.
>
> Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
>
> http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
> <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>
>
> This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I
> have tested
> it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better
> than earlier.
>
> I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the save
> images/screens option.
>
> If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell me if
> You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if You
> liked it or not...)
>
>
> Thore Berntsen
> Norway
> Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:27:16 +0200
From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.

This should be fixed now. Can You tell me if it still not works.
Thore

    -----Original Message-----
    From:    BILL RAY [SMTP:[e-mail]]
    Sent:    27. september 1999 10:15
    To:    [e-mail]
    Subject:    Re: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version
2.00 released.

    Sorry to tell you but the site does not work for me - I do not
speak
    Norwegian and apparently the site has nothing to do with
Fractint anyway.
    Probably a simple typo.

    Thore Berntsen wrote:

    > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays
images
    > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars
Fracint
    > shall play.
    >
    > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
    >
    > http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    > <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>
    >
    > This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I
have tested
    > it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than
earlier.
    >
    > I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be
the save
    > images/screens option.
    >
    > If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please
tell me if
    > You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me
if You
    > liked it or not...)
    >
    > Thore Berntsen
    > Norway
    > Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
    >
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:15:25 +0200
From: Thore Berntsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00 released.

Oops, I must have uploaded it too early in the morning. It should work
now. Thanks for telling me about this problem!

Thore

    -----Original Message-----
    From:    Randall Britten [SMTP:[e-mail]]
    Sent:    27. september 1999 10:07
    To:    [e-mail]
    Subject:    RE: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version
2.00 released.

    The download link doesn't work. (Not Found 404)

    http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.zip


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Thore Berntsen [mailto:[e-mail]]
    > Sent: Monday 27 September 1999 07:56
    > To: [e-mail]
    > Subject: (fractint) Fractint Screen Saver version 2.00
released.
    >
    >
    > Fractint Screens Saver is a Windows screen saver that displays
images
    > that Fractint creates in the background, You select wich pars
Fracint
    > shall play.
    >
    > Today I have released version 2.00. You can get it at
    >
    http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    <http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm>

    This is a almost complete rewrite of the old screen saver. I
have tested
    it under Windows 95,98 and NT, and it seems to run better than
earlier.

    I have added a few new options. The most interesting must be the
save
    images/screens option.

    If You download it I will be glad to hear from You! Please tell
me if
    You have any problems, suggestions etc. (You can even tell me if
You
    liked it or not...)


    Thore Berntsen
    Norway
    Email [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>





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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:05:33 GMT
From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars

> Date:          Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:27:17 -0400
> From:          Lynda Sweetman <[e-mail]>
> To:            [e-mail]
> Subject:       Re: (fractint) Fw: sound pars
> Reply-to:      [e-mail]

>
>
> Bill Jemison wrote:
> >
> > Bresslau,
> >
> > Have you looked at the fract200.par which is included w/fractint20? It has
> > several music pars which should get you started.
> >
> > Bill
>
>
> Sound pars 4 and 5 are very ambient and nice. How do you export a sound
> par file into a MIDI format?  I would like to open them in Media Player
> or a suitable sequencing program.

If any of the FractInt developers are interested, I know what you
need to send down a MIDI cable to get notes to play. I don't know how
to operate a PC's MIDI hardware/software, and I don't know the MIDI
file format, but I know what binary signals are needed. Anyone
interested?

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(Sir Francis Bacon)
Andrew Orphi Coppin
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:57:22 GMT
From: "Andrew Coppin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Magic Image

I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found
this image:

http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg

Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this
thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour
method...

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:32:51 -0300
From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) An interesting screen saver

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Tim:
I found this free screen saver on an old CD-ROM. I think the type of fractal
it uses would be a nice addition to fractint, if someone knows how to
program it.
Cheers.

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:20:35 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Magic Image

Andrew,

 - I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found
 - this image:
 -
 - http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg
 -
 - Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this
 - thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour
 - method...

It's based on Kerry Mitchell's Triangle Inequality Method. Kerry posted his
formula for doing this to this list a while back; there's a slightly
different version in my formula file, available here:

    http://www.fractalus.com/misc/dmj-pub.zip

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in a newsgroup.  Thank you.

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:23:13 -0400
From: Ron Barnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) MakeMap

Greetings everyone:

MakeMap is at my new site (not really new, its over one year old now!).
http://www.hiddendimension.com
Ron Barnett

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From:    Nemo Nox [SMTP:[e-mail]]
Sent:    Wednesday, September 22, 1999 00:59
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Subject:    (fractint) MakeMap


Paul N. Lee wrote:
>You might also try Ron Barnett's utility program "MakeMap".
>There is a useful list of information found at:
>http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm

I have tried that, but the link to MakeMap
(http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip)
leads to an error message. Thanks anyway.

Nemonoxian greetings,

Nemo Nox
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:50:10 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Magic Image

Hi Andrew,

>> I went through one of the many internet fractal galleries, and found =

>> this image:
>>
>> http://members.aol.com/gallets2/g9812302.jpg
>>
>> Does anyone know what colouring algorithm was used to create this =

>> thing? It looks like an M set, but I don't recognize the colour =

>> method...

  This thing was made of twu layers, one of these layers uses Kerry
Mitchell's "Triangle Inequality" color algorithm.

  You can see some Fractint images based on this method (check out
gallet_c.zip on my Downloads page).

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:57:56 +0100
From: "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod

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Hello all,

Perhaps you have (or have not) been wondering what the "inside=fmod"
option added to Fractint v20 is capable of. In answer to that question, here is
a PAR file containing 9 images using that option...

This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the
mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9
images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the
regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation
time?

Thanks,

Iain.





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iains01              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=6:39.64
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=sqr/conj passes=1
  corners=0.0395084635/0.109417318/-0.650925903/-0.598494262
  params=0/0/9 float=y maxiter=100 bailoutest=or inside=fmod
  outside=255 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<247>111111111<3>0000KU
  }

iains02              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:37.82
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  corners=-1.568/1.567997/-1.175982/1.176002
  params=-0.77285766/-0.095993042 maxiter=100 inside=fmod
  proximity=0.015 outside=0 periodicity=-256 colors=zzz<254>000
  }

iains03              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:34.85
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=newton passes=1
  corners=0.90839761/1.0215496/-0.455563682/-0.370699682 params=6
  float=y maxiter=15 inside=fmod proximity=0.5 periodicity=-256
  colors=zzz<7>XbmT_lQXj<3>AKcvvv<239>000
  }

iains04              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3:41.18
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  corners=0.19279681/0.31113281/0.512317611/0.601069611
  params=-0.7387588245570118/0.1409069307481326 float=y maxiter=120
  inside=fmod proximity=0.2 decomp=2 periodicity=-256
  colors=00wWWWmnnz00<229>zx0zx0zx0<3>zz0zzz<2>zzz000<2>000zzz<6>zzz
  }

iains05              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=6:09.15
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=lambda passes=1
  corners=0.76708786109/0.76720752245/0.721526708819/0.721616454842
  params=0.947996089931572/0.3430247718383337 float=y bailout=12399
  inside=fmod proximity=0.11 periodicity=-256
  colors=000<57>uuuvvvwwwxxxyyyzzz<2>yzzyzzxyzwyy<95>2Vd2Vd1Vd<87>000
  }

iains06              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=3:43.82
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Jm_ducks passes=1
  center-mag=-1.02556688172043000/+0.71858867014341600/8438.819
  params=23/0 float=y maxiter=100 inside=fmod proximity=0.008 decomp=2
  colors=000UWWmnnzzz<97>d2Md2Ld1L<95>101101000<53>000
  }

iains07              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=1:23.76
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=CGNewton3 passes=1
  center-mag=+0.02824245917605415/+0.00269181904510192/492.06
  params=1.8/0 float=y maxiter=18 inside=fmod proximity=0.02
  decomp=256

colors=ccczz0z00000zzzccczz0z00000mmm000<9>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9>`hodjphmr<3\
>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9>`hodj\
phmr<3>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3>0Kc<9\
>`hodjphmr<3>www<9>NZkJXjFUh<3>0Kc<9>08F07D05A<2>023000012<8>0CP0DR0FU<3\
  >0Kc<9>`hodjphmr<3>www<9>kkkjjjhhh<3>ccczz0z00000ccczzz
  }

iains08              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=2:24.56
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
  reset=2000 type=julia passes=1
  center-mag=0.228303/-0.483871/3.875969
  params=-0.68466362/0.310020983 float=y maxiter=60 inside=fmod
  proximity=0.02 decomp=64 colors=zzz<254>000
  }

iains09              {; (C) Iain G. Stirling t=2:41.48
                      ; P133 1024 x 768
                      ; Colours based on lkmtch12.map
  reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=_n.frm formulaname=NY002
  function=sin/sqr/sinh/cosh passes=1
  center-mag=-0.42776939483971880/-0.61914425806451700/135.0989
  float=y maxiter=30 inside=fmod proximity=0.05
  colors=222EA6ME6MIEUMEQE2aM6aQEiUEeM2qU6yY6yaEmUAqaMyeMyiUmaQeYQeUIYQIaY\
  UaaaaeiiiieaYqiaymayqimiezzz<74>4R_3R_2QZ1QZ<138>022012011<2>01100028E24\
  6
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:28:29 -0300
From: "Fernando Henrique Bresslau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod

Very nice images, Ian. They look like as if they were truecolor, am I right?
They didn┤t work in Ultrafractal, though. I wanted to play with layers. Does
anybody know why?
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 18:48:47 -0600
From: Phil McRevis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) PARS: inside=fmod

In article <[e-mail]>,
    "Iain G. Stirling" <[e-mail]>  writes:

> This is my first attempt at the art side of fractals (I usually stick to the
> mathematics). It has taken me nearly 5 hours to produce EACH of the 9
> images in this collection! I'm sure that is awfully long - could any of the
> regular PAR contributers give me an idea of their average image creation
> time?

There are a variety of techniques, here are some off the top of my
head:

- --- Browse in a low-resolution video mode until you've selected a
palette and coloring options that you like, then shift to a higher
resolution video mode for final rendering.

- --- Use the view window screen ('v' menu) to select a portion of the
screen for rendering.  This doesn't involve a change in video mode, it
uses a subset of the available pixels in your current video mode.

- --- Use solid guessing or tesseral rendering styles from the 'x' menu
even when you know that its inaccurate for the specific fractal type.
You'll pick up the lost detail upon final rendering.

- --- When solid guessing or tesseral rendering is too egregiously
erroneous for one's sensibilities, use passes=3.  Passes=3 does all
the same things passes=1 does, but it gives you three progressively
refined scans instead of one fully-defined scan.

- --- For slow formula types, borrow a technique from computer science
called 'strength reduction'.  What you do is look over your formula
code for repeatedly calculated subexpressions and compute them once,
sticking them into a variable which you use where the expressions
originally appeared.  Exploit trigonometric or geometric identities to
simplify expressions, or eliminate them entirely.  Fractint does a
good job at compiling formulas and optimizing them in a very low-
level manner, but it doesn't have a knowledge of geometry or
trigonometry to be able to reduce complexity in a user-defined
formula.

- --- Browse at low resolution saving par's along the way and render
the pars over night at higher resolution.  ;-)
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