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fractint-digest       Friday, September 11 1998       Volume 01 : Number 296




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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:49:29 -0700
From: "Art Baker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Can't Unzip

I had no problem downloading and unzipping the same file. I have a T-1 line
so it only took about 12 minutes. Sometimes when they grind away for a few
hours they bcome contaminated.
Art Baker

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Angela Wilczynski
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 5:52 PM
> To: Fractint
> Subject: (fractint) Can't Unzip
>
>
> <<sigh>>
>
> Well....I THOUGHT I was going to be able to look at the contest
> entries tonight but
> when I opened the contest98-all.zip file (39,182K) I got the
> following message:
>
> End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file
> is not a zipfile, or
> it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the latter
> case the central
> directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s)
> of this archive.
>
> Didn't we establish a rule months ago whereby this sort of thing
> wasn't supposed to
> happen?  Any suggestions? Another 4 hours of downloading? Anyone
> else have problems?
>
> Angela
>
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:00:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Michael Traynor)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S

>I am biased toward certain artists, therefore if I know whose pic it is, I'm
>likely to unconsiously judge the person more than the work.

Don't visit other fractal websites until after you've voted.  That would
solve it.

>>This is entirely unworthy.  In the one case where someone definitely wants
>>to display images that were submitted, it is because there was a
>>pre-existing commitment.
>
>That committment should never have been made, aka rules, morals, fairness to
>other competitors...

The commitment had been made in light of the close of voting date.  The
problem arises because some folk feel they may lack time to do justice to
the 250 or so images entered by the close of voting day, and so it was
proposed to extend the date.  This resulted in the problem with a
contestant who had agreed to the use of one of his images in some other
venture.

>> I could well see someone who used a fractal
>>generator that is not so widely used as fractint wanting to display a
>>large format version of their image (I certainly will be using the
>>fractint pars made available to generate images at large sizes since many
>>images loose a lot in smaller versions) and would not view this as being in
>>any way improper.  It does not make sense to have what is essentially a
>>practical compromise on size (to make a practical contest web site)
>>determine an important parameter for a work.
>
>*That* is the essence of competition. How we can work within limitation.

You should know that once Damien has the parameters (for those images
whose submitters included them) out, anyone with the appropriate software
will be able to generate the image at any resolution at all.  It was never
a contest rule that everyone had to judge based on the 640x480 image on
the website.


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Mike Traynor

People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
    Abraham Lincoln

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:55:50 +1000
From: "Regina & Steve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S

In prev mail I forgot to say,

The competition was/is a committment.


- - Looking into a fractal is like looking into the soul.
- - the deeper you look, the more complex the structure

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From: Regina & Steve <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, 11 September 1998 8:03
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S




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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:35:40 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) par

I'm sure everyone is entirely busy looking at the contest
entries but this one was really a surprise, hope you can take
a break from downloading and look at it.  (I'm going
to try and download it tonight while I'm at work and
leave it going on a 14.4 modem)
        (Gravijul somewhat inelegantly put into Kerry
Mitchell's offset_rx=ry_jul.  P1 and P2 do not
work but it made some very nice images.)

unfolding1         { ; 9-98 kathy roth
          ;all palettes by Linda Allison
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_offset.frm
  formulaname=g_offset function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=1.56123/1.04556/1.243589 params=1/1/0.3/0/1/1
float=y outside=mult decomp=256 periodicity=0
colors=9JM9JM8HL7GK5EJ<30>dxxfzz\
fyy<29>DCRCAPDBQ<29>ieskgtjft<28>69T47S5\
  8S<30>yyf<30>3K71I52J6<29>cvcexedwe<26>AKM
  }


unfolding2         { ; 9-98 kathy roth
colors=7alKII<13>djr<14>MSaK\
Q_LR`<14>iqu<14>IQVGOTGOU<13>7al<14>hpukqvkp\
  u<13>kbYlaWk`W<13>NKRLIQKIQ<14>5V\
V<15>jsw<13>HL_FJYFJYEIX<14>tlo<14>VKNT\
  ILSIL<14>AUO<15>esm<14>KHGIEDJGF
  }


unfolding3         { ; 9-98 kathy roth
    colors=wF0<5>sC0rB0qA0p90n80<5>e20\
c00d10<12>qA0rB0rD0<5>uR0uT0vW0vZ0<4>y\
  p0zt0zw0zz0<5>zf0yb0y`0<8>tE0sB0pB2<9>F2\
MG3Q<13>jGz<2>cDwaBv_AuX8sP6e<2>\
  000<15>000<7>U00<7>000<15>000<4>X8s_9ub\
Bx<2>jFz<12>J4TG3QF2M<10>sB0<3>vN\
  0wQ0wS0wU0<3>yb0ze0ze0<4>zz0<14>sB0s\
B0rB0<15>c00b00c10<5>o80qA0qA0<5>wF0
  }


frm:g_offset { ;modification of Kerry Mitchell's offset_rx=ry_jul
 ;
 ; "2 offset circles" coloring method for Julia sets
 ; p1 = c = Julia parameter
 ; p2 = approximate circle center
 ; real(p3) = (both) circle radius
 ; imag(p3) = center offsets--added to p2 for
 ;   centerx, subtracted from p2 for centery
 ; bailout hardcoded to 10^12
 ; use "decomp=256" coloring
 ;
        zc=pixel, c=p1, bailout=1e12, iter=1, rmin=1e12
        cenx=p2*(1+imag(p3)), radx=real(p3), rad2x=radx*radx
        ceny=p2*(1-imag(p3)), rad2y=rad2x:
        iter=iter+1, w=fn1(zc)
zc=fn3(1/fn2(w*w))
        tempx=|zc-cenx|-rad2x
        tempy=|zc-ceny|-rad2y
        temp=tempx+flip(tempy), r=|temp|
        if (r<rmin)
          rmin=r, z=temp
          endif
        if ((|zc|>bailout)||(iter==maxit))
          iter=-1
          endif
        iter>0
        }







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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:43:30 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) more (more pars)

portrait1          { ; 9-98 kathy roth
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_offset.frm
  formulaname=g_offset function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=3.665e-006/-8.65e-007/0.2586665 params=1/1/0.3/0/1/1
  float=y outside=mult decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000<2>000<7>KKQNNTQQXTT_VWa<3>df\
kginhjn<2>kmn<13>OI5<11>pgTriVulY\
  xn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMG\
FL<10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`\
  0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3A\
C09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMILPKNRM<9>km\
  n<6>D92<3>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpa<14>OI5000<24>000
  }

portrait2          { ; 9-98 kathy roth
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_offset.frm
  formulaname=g_offset function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=0.0129064/0.968108/0.923809 params=1/1/0.3/0/1.15/1
  float=y outside=mult decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000<25>000<7>KKQNNTQQXTT_V\
Wa<3>dfkginhjn<2>kmn<13>OI5<11>pgTriVul\
  Yxn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGMGFL<10>7\
24602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>\
  `0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC\
09908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMILPKNRM<9>k\
  mn<6>D92<3>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpa<14>OI5\
000000000
  }

portrait3          { ; 9-98 kathy roth
                     ; Linda Allison map
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=g_offset.frm
  formulaname=g_offset function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=3.665e-006/-8.65e-007/0.2586665 params=1/1/-1/0/2/1
  float=y outside=mult decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=xn_24M<2>12H01F01F<13>014003001\
001<13>los<13>SNCQL9QL9QL8QK7<26>v\
  lYxn_xn_xn_<29>RL7QK6QK7QL9<2>UQHVS\
KXUO<9>los<9>788<3>222000001<10>21D22\
  E22F23G23I<7>37R37S48U58W<4>7Cd8De\
8De<29>T_wT_wSZv<28>AFe9Ed8Dc7Cb7B`<7>\
  35O
  }


frm:g_offset { ;modification of Kerry Mitchell's offset_rx=ry_jul
 ;
 ; "2 offset circles" coloring method for Julia sets
 ; p1 = c = Julia parameter
 ; p2 = approximate circle center
 ; real(p3) = (both) circle radius
 ; imag(p3) = center offsets--added to p2 for
 ;   centerx, subtracted from p2 for centery
 ; bailout hardcoded to 10^12
 ; use "decomp=256" coloring
 ;
        zc=pixel, c=p1, bailout=1e12, iter=1, rmin=1e12
        cenx=p2*(1+imag(p3)), radx=real(p3), rad2x=radx*radx
        ceny=p2*(1-imag(p3)), rad2y=rad2x:
        iter=iter+1, w=fn1(zc)
zc=fn3(1/fn2(w*w))
        tempx=|zc-cenx|-rad2x
        tempy=|zc-ceny|-rad2y
        temp=tempx+flip(tempy), r=|temp|
        if (r<rmin)
          rmin=r, z=temp
          endif
        if ((|zc|>bailout)||(iter==maxit))
          iter=-1
          endif
        iter>0
        }






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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:40:00 -0700 (MST)
From: Kerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Emboss

So, you've already voted in the fractal contest, taxes aren't due until
April, and you don't want to paint the house.  What to do?  Why, read
another tome of mine, of course!  (All is not lost, as there are some pars
and a couple of heavily commented formulas here, too.)

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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comment { ; narrative copyright Kerry Mitchell 11sep98

Embossing

Notary Publics and other important folks use embossing as a way of
marking official papers.  The embossing die puts a series of crimps
onto the paper.  This doesn't change the color of the paper, but
makes hills and valleys that are visible as highlights and shadows.
The "embossing" coloring method has a similar effect.  Typically, the
majority of the image is a middle gray.  Contour bands (such as those
between regions of constant dwell) are colored black and white,
resembling shadows and highlights, respectively.  Performed correctly,
this gives a very convincing 3D effect to the image, reminiscent of a
topographical map or architectural model.

In general, embossing requires 2 test points for each pixel, and
some discrete variable (call it D for this explanation).  If D is the
same for both test points (D1 = D2), then the pixel is colored middle
gray.  If D for the first test point is less than D for the second
point (D1 < D2), then the pixel is colored black.  Otherwise, D1 > D2,
and the pixel is colored white.  For example (B = black, W = white,
G = gray):

D1 (first test point):   1  23  45   2   5   9  34   0   1  19
D2 (second test point):  1  22  45   2   5  10  34   0   2  18
pixel color:             G   W   G   G   G   B   G   G   B   W

In the present method, the test points are placed on either side of
the pixel.  Exactly where is determined by 2 parameters, the "size"
and "lightangle".  The apparant size of the contour bands in the
image depends on how far apart the test points are, related to "size".
Using a larger size will result in bigger, more dramatic bands.
However, using large bands, particularly with decomp turned off, can
lead to "seeing double" in your fractal.  Typically, size=0.005 to
0.01 works well for full-scale images (magnification=0.66667), and
it should be decreased as the magnification increases.

The relative location of the highlights and shadows on a real embossed
sheet depends on from where the light is coming.  This is simulated
with the "lightangle" parameter.  Using a value of 0 would show
highlights on the right side (0 degrees) and shadows on the left side
(180 degrees).  The highlights generally appear in the same direction
given by lightangle; the shadows are generally on the other side, 180
degrees away.

The discrete variable used here is the iteration number:  how many
iterations before the orbits escape.  Colors are determined by assigning
z one of 4 values, each of which has a different polar angle.  Then,
using "decomp=256" coloring will make each case show up clearly.  If
both test points have escaping orbits, then the pixel is colored one
color (z = "black") if the 1st point escapes first, a 2nd color
("white") if the 2nd point escapes first, and a 3rd color ("gray")
if they both escape on the same iteration.  If both orbits don't escape
before the maximum number of iterations is reached, then the pixel is
colored using a 4th color (z = "other").  Of course, the colors that
actually show up in your image will depend on your color palette.

To add more flexibility, an elliptical bailout condition is used.  In
a typical Mandelbrot calculation, iteration ceases when |z| > bailout,
which means

        [real(z)]^2 + [imag(z)]^2 > bailout.

This gives a bailout boundary that is a circle.  By changing the
relative weights of real(z) and imag(z):

        [a*real(z)]^2 + [b*imag(z)]^2 > bailout,

the bailout boundary is changed to an ellipse.  The relative sizes
of a and b will determine the eccentricity of the ellipse (long vs.
circular vs. tall), and the minimum of a and b will determine how
big the bailout ellipse is.  For example, small a and large b would
weigh the imaginary part more heavily in the bailout determination.
For best results, a and b should both be <= 1.  This method also uses
the "strict" bailout condition:  if a and b are both = 1, then the
bailout radius depends on the magnitude of c.  This brings the
iteration contours closer together when c is small.  Since this
method emphasizes the contours so much, the more precise condition
was chosen.

Other discrete quantities can be used in this method, and continuous
variables can be made discrete by using the round() and trunc()
functions.  But this is work for another time.  Until then, play
notary public in your own fractal jurisdiction and emboss away!

}

embossed-mandelbrot { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
  ;
  ;  most of the image is middle gray
  ;  highlights are white, shadows are black
  ;  interior (non-escaping) uses "other" color
  ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=emboss-iter_man passes=1 center-mag=-0.6/0/0.8
  params=1/1/0.005/180 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0 decomp=256
  periodicity=0 colors=000w00<60>w00VVVw00<61>w00zzzw00<62>w0\
  000ww00<61>w00 cyclerange=0/255
  }

embossed-julia { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
  ;
  ;  most of the image is middle gray
  ;  highlights are white, shadows are black
  ;  interior (non-escaping) uses "other" color
  ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=emboss-iter_jul passes=1 center-mag=0/0/1/1/80
  params=0.44/0.23/0.7/0.7/0.003/40 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000w00<60>w00VVVw00<61>w00zzz\
  w00<62>w0000ww00<61>w00 cyclerange=0/255
  }

bowtie { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
  ;
  ;  embossed images don't have to be just black, white
  ;  and gray, ya know...
  ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=emboss.frm
  formulaname=emboss-iter_jul passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.6
  params=-2/0/1/0.5/0.1/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=00zw00<60>w00zzzw00<61>\
  w00z00w00<62>w0000ww00<61>w00 cyclerange=0/255
  }

breakers-on-midget-isle { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
  ;
  ;  embossed images don't have to be just black, white
  ;  and gray, ya know...
  ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=emboss.frm
  formulaname=emboss-iter_man passes=1 center-mag=-1.766/0/13
  params=0.15/0.45/0.0003/150 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0 colors=000w00<60>w000Umw00<61>w00\
  zzzw00<62>w000U0w00<61>w00 cyclerange=0/255
  }

seeing-double { ; copyright Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
  ;
  ;  what can happen if the "size" parameter is set too big
  ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=emboss.par
  formulaname=emboss-iter_man center-mag=-0.782848/0.147517/\
  235/1/-52.5 params=1/1/0.001/60 float=y maxiter=256 inside=0
  periodicity=0 colors=0xz<18>04z01z00y<20>000<20>z00<20>zz0<\
  19>zzvzzyyzz<20>0zz<20>00z<19>003000200<18>v00y00z10<20>zz0\
  <20>zzzzzz<20>0zz cyclerange=0/255
  }

frm:emboss-iter_man { ; Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
        ;
        ; "embossing" coloring scheme based on iteration levels
        ; Mandelbrot version
        ;
        ; uses elliptical bailout:  [real(z)*a]^2+[imag(z)*b]^2
        ; real(p1) = a <= 1
        ; imag(p1) = b <= 1
        ; a = b = 1 for strict bailout
        ;
        ; real(p2) = size of contour band
        ; imag(p2) = light source angle, in degrees
        ; use decomp=256 coloring, only 4 colors used
        ;
        ; initialize counters
        ;
        iter=1, done=0
        ;
        ; set up elliptical parameters
        ;
        c=pixel, r=4*cabs(c), r=sqrt(1+r), bailout=|(1+r)/2|
        a=real(p1), b=imag(p1)
        ;
        ; first point is offset from pixel by lightangle
        ; second point is offset from pixel by (lightangle+180 deg)
        ;
        size=real(p2), lightangle=imag(p2)*pi/180
        dr=size*(cos(lightangle)+flip(sin(lightangle)))
        c1=pixel-dr, iter1=0, z1=0
        c2=pixel+dr, iter2=0, z2=0
        ;
        ; 4 variables with different angles for 4 different colors
        ;
        black=(1,0), white=(-1,0), gray=(0,1), other=(0,-1)
        :
        iter=iter+1
        ;
        ; iterate first point, it is hasn't already escaped
        ;
        if(iter1==0)
          z1=sqr(z1)+c1, r=|real(z1)*a|+|imag(z1)*b|
          ;
          ; set bailout counter if first point escaped
          ;
          if(r>bailout)
            iter1=iter
          endif
        endif
        ;
        ; iterate second point, it is hasn't already escaped
        ;
        if(iter2==0)
          z2=sqr(z2)+c2, r=|real(z2)*a|+|imag(z2)*b|
          ;
          ; set bailout counter if second point escaped
          ;
          if(r>bailout)
            iter2=iter
          endif
        endif
        ;
        ; if both points escaped, perform "embossing"
        ;
        if((iter1>0)&&(iter2>0))
          done=1
          ;
          ; color "black" if first point escaped first
          ;
          if(iter1<iter2)
            z=black
          ;
          ; color "white" if second point escaped first
          ;
          elseif(iter2<iter1)
            z=white
          ;
          ; color "gray" if both points escaped at same time
          ;
          else
            z=gray
          endif
        endif
        ;
        ; otherwise, assign z to "other"
        ;
        if(iter==maxit)
          done=1
          z=other
        endif
        ;
        ; continue if nothing happened
        ;
        done==0
        }

frm:emboss-iter_jul { ; Kerry Mitchell 11sep98
        ;
        ; "embossing" coloring scheme based on iteration levels
        ;
        ; uses elliptical bailout:  [real(z)*a]^2+[imag(z)*b]^2
        ; p1 = c = Julia parameter
        ; real(p2) = a <= 1
        ; imag(p2) = b <= 1
        ; a = b = 1 for strict bailout
        ;
        ; real(p3) = size of contour band
        ; imag(p3) = light source angle, in degrees
        ; use decomp=256 coloring, only 4 colors used
        ;
        ; initialize counters
        ;
        iter=1, done=0
        ;
        ; set up elliptical parameters
        ;
        c=p1, r=4*cabs(c), r=sqrt(1+r), bailout=|(1+r)/2|
        a=real(p2), b=imag(p2)
        ;
        ; first point is offset from pixel by lightangle
        ; second point is offset from pixel by (lightangle+180 deg)
        ;
        size=real(p3), lightangle=imag(p3)*pi/180
        dr=size*(cos(lightangle)+flip(sin(lightangle)))
        z1=pixel-dr, iter1=0, c1=p1
        z2=pixel+dr, iter2=0, c2=p1
        ;
        ; 4 variables with different angles for 4 different colors
        ;
        black=(1,0), white=(-1,0), gray=(0,1), other=(0,-1)
        :
        iter=iter+1
        ;
        ; iterate first point, it is hasn't already escaped
        ;
        if(iter1==0)
          z1=sqr(z1)+c1, r=|real(z1)*a|+|imag(z1)*b|
          ;
          ; set bailout counter if first point escaped
          ;
          if(r>bailout)
            iter1=iter
          endif
        endif
        ;
        ; iterate second point, it is hasn't already escaped
        ;
        if(iter2==0)
          z2=sqr(z2)+c2, r=|real(z2)*a|+|imag(z2)*b|
          ;
          ; set bailout counter if second point escaped
          ;
          if(r>bailout)
            iter2=iter
          endif
        endif
        ;
        ; if both points escaped, perform "embossing"
        ;
        if((iter1>0)&&(iter2>0))
          done=1
          ;
          ; color "black" if first point escaped first
          ;
          if(iter1<iter2)
            z=black
          ;
          ; color "white" if second point escaped first
          ;
          elseif(iter2<iter1)
            z=white
          ;
          ; color "gray" if both points escaped at same time
          ;
          else
            z=gray
          endif
        endif
        ;
        ; otherwise, assign z to "other"
        ;
        if(iter==maxit)
          done=1
          z=other
        endif
        ;
        ; continue if nothing happened
        ;
        done==0
        }



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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:33:53 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) Fertile fields

Here's a fun par. It uses two of my favorite components: Gallet-6-01.frm
and LindaA08.map

The Gallet formula is definitely fertile ground for interesting fractals.
While viewing the image, try

z[uparrow][rightarrow][enter]

(You can do one, two or three uparrows.) In one half-hour session of typing
this sequence, I found lots of 'keepers'. (And got a sore wrist from the
repetitive motion, but it was worth it.)

If you haven't tried the 'potential' parameter before, this will give you a
good idea of what it does. Solid, chunky. smooth, burnished fractals.

Bill Decker

chaos-order2       { ;  (c) Bill Decker Sep 10, 1998 t=  0:00:24.06
                     ;  on P150 800x600
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-01 function=tanh/tan/exp
  center-mag=-0.884873/-1.30014/0.06080288/1/160 params=5/0/5/0/2/0
  float=y potential=255/300/0
  colors=000500500<26>iB3<8>xeKziMyfL<7>kF5iB3fA3<8>911500000<12>000000011\
  021<12>3CA3CA3B9<15>000000021<4>3CA4FC5JF<10>Fte<14>155012000<15>4zn<2>4\
  pe4lb4h_3dX3`U<8>022<13>4zp<29>2DC2BA2BA<12>111000000000<15>000
  }

frm:Gallet-6-01 { ; Sylvie Gallet [101324,3444], 1996
  z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) :
   x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + p2*fn2(x - p3*fn3(y)))
   y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + p2*fn2(y - p3*fn3(x)))
   x = x1 , y = y1
   z = x + flip(y)
    |z| <= 32
  }



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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:46:29 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Can't Unzip

>  I have a T-1 line
>  so it only took about 12 minutes

fine, just rub it in!  I've only downloaded 1/3 of the competition and it took
140 mins!  I also had no problem with the zips

Luke

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:12:38 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Can't Unzip

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >  I have a T-1 line
> >  so it only took about 12 minutes
>
> fine, just rub it in!  I've only downloaded 1/3 of the competition and it took
> 140 mins!  I also had no problem with the zips
>
> Luke
>
> [e-mail]
> Fractal gallery, 'z squared plus c':
> http://members.xoom.com/lukeplant/
>
>

I downloaded via the three smaller files and that finally worked for me.  After I
extracted all the files I realized just what an enormous task Damien completed!!!!!!
Once again....sincere thanks.  I hope for the next contest we can find a way to share
some of the labor so that one person isn't so burdened. Also, it occurred to me that
a mirror for downloading wouild have helped a good deal......I volunteer for next
time to host a mirror. Tiresome to get these bright ideas After the fact......more
lessons learned.

Angela

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:10:18 -0700
From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Unzip download?

    Good morning.

    Just came from the hospital where my wife is facing minor surgery for the
third time in three months.  So, I am a little distracted.
    Last night, to keep myself occupied I took a couple of deep breaths,
swallowed hard and made the decision to download the whole kit and kaboodle
of the Contest98.  A huge - a monumentally huge - step for me.
    Thanks to Linda I knew right where to go - went there and, gulping down an
imaginary shot of bourbon, started things rolling.  And all went well,
(mostly thanks to Damien's masterful handling of the contest - and a hats
off to Paul Lee also).
    I chose late night, since I figured the electronic systems would be less
active than during the day.  Got it going at 12:30 AM, went to bed, checked
it at 2:30, a little over half way I think, and again at 5:10 in the morning.
All done!
    Unzipping went well and installing, I installed it in
c:\fractint\contes98\ (not sure about that last back-slash) - at least, I
thought it was going well.
    BUT
    There's always a 'big but', isn't there?  Everything is locked.  I can't
get to it.
    My guess: I used an evaluation copy of "WinZip".  I had already done one
download using it, and I'm presuming that WinZip considers that one
download a "fair" evaluation and will not let me unlock my download until I
buy their product.  I'm willing to buy the product but I don't like my hand
to be forced by an incomplete period of evaluation.
    Can anybody judge whether this is true or not, and if not, how to get the
download unlocked?  It's so frustrating to be so near and yet so far -
"holding the banana just out of reach of the caged monkey."
    Would appreciate, very much, someone's advice on this.
    Incidentally, I'm using Win 95, lots of ram and lots of Hard Drive.  What
I'm not using is a lot of know-how.

        Thanks                    Ray


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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:30:29 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Emboss

Hi Kerry,

>> So, you've already voted in the fractal contest,

  NO!!!  But I was too curious...  WOW!!!!!  Great formulas!!!

  Now, back to the fractal contest...

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:33:27 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unzip download?

Ray Montgomery wrote:
>
> (.... and a hats off to Paul Lee also).

Thanks a bunch!!

Keeping the Contest Data Base up to date wasn't too much of a hassle.
And having to reply to those that either hadn't read the Rules or
didn't follow them was not too bad either.  It was testing most of the
parameters to make sure they were correct, and/or trying to create them
based upon just the image or partial parameters that took some effort.

I also tried to keep the Entries webpage up to date with the latest
counts (until I lost my access).  I had been converting the Data Base
into several HTML Tables (in various forms of criteria) so that Damien
and Kerry Mitchell could see the latest results via the web.

All in all, it wasn't too bad and a lot of fun (until the last few days
when everybody decided to submit images).  :-)

>
> Everything is locked.  I can't get to it.
> My guess: I used an evaluation copy of "WinZip".
> I had already done one download using it, and
> I'm presuming that WinZip considers that one
> download a "fair" evaluation and will not let
> me unlock my download until I buy their product.

I used to have an evaluation copy which worked well everytime that I
tried it.  I used it for many files before I decided that I should pay
for what I had been using.

>
> Can anybody judge whether this is true or not, and if not,
> how to get the download unlocked?

Do you still have the installation executable for the WinZIP setup??
You might try just re-instaling it to get it functioning again.

P.N.L.
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:39:16 -0400
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unzip download?

Ray Montgomery wrote:

>  <snipped>
>         Unzipping went well and installing, I installed it in
> c:\fractint\contes98\ (not sure about that last back-slash) - at least, I
> thought it was going well.
>         BUT
>         There's always a 'big but', isn't there?  Everything is locked.  I can't
> get to it.
>         My guess: I used an evaluation copy of "WinZip".

My guess is that Winzip has nothing to do with it. If, as you say above, "unzipping
went well," and you installed (I am assuming you mean extracted) the files to a
folder, Winzip is done with, and the problem is elsewhere. Unfortunately I don't know
just exactly what you mean by "everything is locked." How are you trying to "get to
it"? What you downloaded is, in effect, a home page based on the file index.html,
which is included in the zip file. Find it, and try double clicking it. It should come
up in Netscape or Internet Explorer, and you can take it from there.

Gedeon

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:43:48 -0400
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) contest

Although it was evident right from the start, the downloaded files make
it abundantly clear just what an immense job Damien, Paul, and Kerry
have done. Many thank to all of them for a job superbly well done.

Gedeon

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:17:39 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Can't Unzip

- -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Dean-Christian Strik <[e-mail]>
Aan: fractint <[e-mail]>
Datum: vrijdag 11 september 1998 20:51
Onderwerp: Re: (fractint) Can't Unzip


Angela,

>I downloaded via the three smaller files and that finally worked for me.
After I
>extracted all the files I realized just what an enormous task Damien
completed!!!!!!
>Once again....sincere thanks.  I hope for the next contest we can find a way
to share
>some of the labor so that one person isn't so burdened. Also, it occurred to
me that
>a mirror for downloading wouild have helped a good deal......I volunteer for
next
>time to host a mirror. Tiresome to get these bright ideas After the
fact......more
>lessons learned.


That'd be an American mirror of an American site. Nothing wrong with that, on
the contrary! But it would be very nice to have a European mirror as well.
There are a lot of European members of the fractint and fractal-art lists. I
can't mirror myself (I don't even have a European site - and no decent one
anyway, still need to set up my xoom site). Are there any of us Euro's out
there who can (and are willing too, of course)?

Christian


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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:17:56 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Unzip download?

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Van: Dean-Christian Strik <[e-mail]>
Aan: fractint <[e-mail]>
Datum: vrijdag 11 september 1998 20:52
Onderwerp: (fractint) Unzip download?


> Good morning.

Hey! It's evening out here! :-)

> My guess: I used an evaluation copy of "WinZip".  I had already done one
>download using it, and I'm presuming that WinZip considers that one
>download a "fair" evaluation and will not let me unlock my download until I
>buy their product.  I'm willing to buy the product but I don't like my hand
>to be forced by an incomplete period of evaluation.
> Can anybody judge whether this is true or not, and if not, how to get the
>download unlocked?  It's so frustrating to be so near and yet so far -
>"holding the banana just out of reach of the caged monkey."
> Would appreciate, very much, someone's advice on this.
> Incidentally, I'm using Win 95, lots of ram and lots of Hard Drive.  What
>I'm not using is a lot of know-how.

Well... such an action would seem ridiculous (no offense!) to me. I believe
winzip doesn't restrict anything to an unregistered copy, but only gives you a
warning when you're legal time's up. Anyway, you may try do 'register': name:
Ray serial: E76E0153.

I have no idea what's really gone wrong, though.

Christian

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listed on my hetnet address]





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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:18:19 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) contest

Gedeon Peteri wrote:
>
> Although it was evident right from the start, the downloaded
> files make it abundantly clear just what an immense job Damien,
> Paul, and Kerry have done.  Many thank to all of them for a
> job superbly well done.
>

Compliments and Thank Yous are always welcome.

But there is still a lot to do before the Contest is finished.  I
believe Kerry will be doing the tallying of votes, and then there are
all of the comments and feedbacks for each image that will need to be
distributed to the artists involved.

Still plenty of work left.

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