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fractint-digest Thursday, September 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 294
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:35:16 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <dmj@fractalus.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S
Ken,
- Actually, it wasn't clear to me if what was downloadable was going to be
- a mirror of the contest pages, or par files so that people could generate
- the images themselves, or both.
Both, ultimately.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:44:16 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <dmj@fractalus.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re; contest web site
Gedeon,
- There is no reference here to images being disqualified on account of
- their appearing on home pages *after* submission but before the voting
- is concluded.
Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the rules. :) The reason for
not revealing the names of the artists is to prevent voting based on artist
reputation. Posting contest images to your web site defeats this stated
intent.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:40:42 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <dmj@fractalus.com>
Subject: (fractint) Re: [fractal-art] Contest Web Site
Linda,
- Best Portrayal of an Emotion: I'm not certain what "emotion" is
- represented by some of the fractals. Is there more info on these
- somewhere, or was that info just left out by the contestants?
Some contestants did not elaborate on which emotion they were portraying.
In some cases we caught this during the submission process and asked for
clarification; it didn't always arrive. I did the best I could with the
information I had.
- Also, the voting: I agree that the comments from the viewers will be
- one of the advantages of the contest. But I'm really sorry that we will
- only comment on those images that we vote for.
If you (or anyone else) have got further comments that you would like
forwarded to the artists, please send it to comments@fractalus.com. I'll
adjust the web site to reflect this.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:35:43 -0400
From: davides <davides@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S
At 11:25 AM 9/9/1998 -0500, Damien wrote:
(snipped)
{Suppose after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their
contest images, yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone
have some thoughts on this, pro or con?}
Personally I do not see the problem in this. The above seems reasonable and
sane to me - it is not as if there were half a trillion rubles riding on this.
davides@pipeline.com
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:49:57 -0400
From: davides <davides@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re; contest web site
At 01:44 PM 9/9/1998 -0500, Damien wrote:
>Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the rules. :) The reason for
>not revealing the names of the artists is to prevent voting based on artist
>reputation. Posting contest images to your web site defeats this stated
>intent.
(Should have put this with my first post a few minutes ago) I imagine
everyone here is honorable enough to _not_ visit web sites where contest
images are placed until after having voted. Is that not sufficient?
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:02:30 -0700
From: "Lee Newsted" <newsted@arkansas.net>
Subject: [none]
Hi, This is Nuke.
I'm On-line now so ... so.. There! Ha!
And just in time to vote on Contest 98!
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:01:18 EDT
From: BillatNY@aol.com
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S
Just wanted to add my voice to those thanking Damien et al for all their hard
work on the contest. Damien, you've got incredible patience!
And Thank You Sharon for the beautiful awards. They'll look great on my
mantlepiece :)
Bill
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:31:32 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <dmj@fractalus.com>
Subject: (fractint) Contest
Good evening folks,
My apologies for spamming these lists yet again, but I wanted to let people
know that the first downloadable forms of the contest are available:
http://www.fractalus.com/contest98/download.htm
The PAR-kits are not ready yet, so if that's what you're looking for,
you'll have to wait an extra day. Still, if all you'd like to do is
download the entire web site, you can now do that in big chunks, instead of
one file at a time.
Please note: the complete contest web site will consume 40M of hard drive
space. Downloading it is not for the faint of heart (or tight of space). :)
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:05:07 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: (fractint) Contest Software
For those that might be interested....
The DataBase of all Contest Entries that I was keeping to assist Damien
had some interesting statistics, one of which is the software used for
all of the images. Here is a list based upon the supplied information:
Software Count
- ------------ ---------
? ? 17
Dllirium Tremor .000001 beta 3
Dust Fractals 3
Flarium 3
Flarium 24 4
Flarium 24 with Painter 5 2
Flarium or TieraZon with Photoshop 1
Fractal (custom Visual Basic program) 1
Fractal Domains 6
Fractal eXtreme 1
Fractal eXtreme 1.21 6
FractInt 3
FractInt 17.2 with PhotoShop 5.0 1
FractInt 17.3 1
FractInt 19.2 1
FractInt 19.3 6
FractInt 19.5 2
FractInt 19.6 116
FractInt 19.6 with Bryce 2.0 1
FractInt 19.6 with Paint Shop Pro 2
FractInt 19.6 with Picture Publisher & MS-Paint 1
FractInt 19.6 with some graphic editor 1
FractInt with custom software 1
GrafZViZion 1.8 1
GrafZViZion 2.3 1
Inkblot Kaos with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1
Iterations 28 or 29 1
Kai's Power Tools - Fractal Explorer 4
MathArt 3
own code, written in C 1
own Liapunov program 1
own program 3
own software 3
P.O.V. 2 1
POV-Ray 3.0 2
QuickBASIC 4.5 2
TieraZon 9
TieraZon 1.0 1
TieraZon 1.0 (overlayed images) 2
TieraZon 2 or 2.05 1
TieraZon 2.05 19
TieraZon 2.05 with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1
TieraZon 2.05 with Picture Publisher 2
TieraZon 2.06 2
TieraZon with Photoshop 4.0 LE 1
Truemand 3.0 beta 3
Ultra Fractal 2 3
Ultra Fractal 2.0 3
Ultra Fractal 2.06 5
VistaPro with MS-Paint 1
WinFract 18.21 5
Xaos 3.1 beta 3
P.N.L.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:22:44 -0700
From: Ray Montgomery <elmont@cdsnet.net>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Awards?
I must have missed something. Several mentions have been made about the
"...beautiful awards, made by Sharon..." I don't remember seeing any
mentions of this in any of the postings.
Would somebody be good enough to enlighten me? Thanks.
Ray
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:07:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re; contest web site
Damien writes:
>
>Gedeon,
>
> - There is no reference here to images being disqualified on account of
> - their appearing on home pages *after* submission but before the voting
> - is concluded.
>
>Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the rules. :) The reason for
>not revealing the names of the artists is to prevent voting based on artist
>reputation. Posting contest images to your web site defeats this stated
>intent.
I consider this an unseemly suspicion. The implication is, for instance
that the voting in the fractint contest was biased as the names of the
submitters (I'd say artists, but I submitted some for that contest so that
rules out use of the terms for all) were known. Do you believe that this
was so?
- --
Mike Traynor
People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:53:42 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <wizzle@beachnet.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S
Damien M. Jones wrote:
>
> Thank you for suggesting a compromise. (You were suggesting one,
> weren't
> you? :) The problem is that people want to be able to display their
> images, perhaps even have committed to being able to display them.
> Suppose
> after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their contest
> images,
> yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone have some
> thoughts
> on this, pro or con?
>
> Damien M. Jones \\
> dmj@fractalus.com \\ Fractalus Galleries & Info:
Damien....
I am strongly in favor of extending the voting period and letting folks
post their images on their websites after the 19th as you suggested. I
could not discern any problems, i.e. there were no complaints, during
the last contest when we posted our contest entries during the voting.
Angela aka wizzle
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:59:03 EDT
From: RENRAD1@aol.com
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest
ust curious-wouldn't it be better to wait for downloading until the
corrections have been put in place or do the d/l files have the corrected
titles...
renrad
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:55:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: pjcarlsn@ix.netcom.com (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest
Having taken a three month vacation from making fractals, I did not
enter the contest this year. Am I still eligible to vote?
Paul Carlson
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:43:03 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <wizzle@beachnet.com>
Subject: (fractint) Posting sans spaces
I am re-posting the pars I did a few days ago that had a bad case of the dreaded
spaces. Despite all of the suggestions made (which I implemented) by you all, I was
still getting spaces. I downloaded and installed a copy of Communicator 4.06
tonight, and I think that did the trick! Please let me know.......I tried several
tests prior to posting here (sent posts to myself at both my ISP's)......everything
looked good to me so I suspect that Communicator 4.01 had a prob.
Thanks for your patience
Angela aka wizzle
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:44:48 -0400
From: "Phil DiGiorgi" <phild@iinc.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting sans spaces
>I am re-posting the pars I did a few days ago that had a bad case of the dreaded
>spaces. Despite all of the suggestions made (which I implemented) by you all, I was
>still getting spaces. I downloaded and installed a copy of Communicator 4.06
>tonight, and I think that did the trick! Please let me know.......I tried several
>tests prior to posting here (sent posts to myself at both my ISP's)......everything
>looked good to me so I suspect that Communicator 4.01 had a prob.
>
Angela,
This last post was perfect. Methinks you've solved the problem.
Phil D.
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:45:57 EDT
From: RENRAD1@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) contest corrections
(i am resending this because it seems to not be getting through the mails)
just curious-wouldn't it be better to wait for downloading until the
corrections have been put in place or do the d/l files have the corrected
titles...?
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:49:24 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <PaulDC@prodigy.net>
Subject: (fractint) Contest
Outstanding work on the contest site! I've spent over three hours
looking at all of the great submissions, taking notes and changing my
mind literally dozens of times. Good thing we have a couple weeks to
vote... I'll be revisiting tomorrow at work (Thank God for T1
connections ;-) You really DO have to view the full-size images to
fully appreciate them.
BTW & FWIW, I do plan to post my entries on my web page, but not until
after voting has ended..
Good night, all
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:33:21 +0200
From: Joe Pearson <joe.pearson@didata.co.za>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest Web Site
>Joe Pearson wrote:
>> One question: in the quotes category, are there quotes for each one?
>> Otherwise how do we vote for the best interpretation?
>> Joe
>
>Click on each one to see the full-size image AND the quote.
>Janet
OK, I am obviously a complete no-hoper and not qualified to vote - I was
sure I'd viewed at least one of this category full size.
From here it is *very* slow to get hold of the images, even with the
640x480x256 limit. I shall be checking out the 40MB download ... after
I've cleared some disk space.
I think it will be important to view all images in a category fairly
quickly - I suppose I'll narrow my choice down to 3-5 of them and then
need to look at them again, and again.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:03:03 -0400
From: davides <davides@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting sans spaces
At 07:43 PM 9/9/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>I am re-posting the pars (snipped)
These came out just fine.
davides@pipeline.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:33:31 +1000
From: "Regina & Steve" <sleepysams@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S
<snipety snip>
>
> {Suppose after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their
>contest images, yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone
>have some thoughts on this, pro or con?}
If we allowed that then there would be people who would wait to find out who
did the image before voting and that would defeat the purpose of anonymity
in the first place.
>(Should have put this with my first post a few minutes ago) I imagine
>everyone here is honorable enough to _not_ visit web sites where contest
>images are placed until after having voted. Is that not sufficient?
NO - curiosity doesn't only kill the cat.....besides, how do we know which
sites not to visit?
Only those worried that their image wont win without someone knowing they
did it need display it (no offense to Maria Kjaergaard, your copyright shows
already- haven't looked at all pics thou), a simple note saying they have a
new image to be released on such-and-such date should leave viewers panting
to come back when the pic is available(but not including the picture name).
(sorry not sure when competition is decided)
There is plenty of time to show off.... stick with it.... besides, wont it
look better on your site if someone new who views your pic sees the prize
attached to it, (they don't always come back)?
regards, regina
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:13:18 +0100
From: Dave <Dave@Quanta.co.uk>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest Web S
> >With the number of fractal programs that generate true color images,
> >plus the ability to post process fractint images, limiting to 256
> colors
> >would be quite ludicrous, IMO.
>
> What programs are you talking about? It seems Fractint's preferential
> treatment of outdated hardware limits most users I've ever asked about
> this
> subject to 256 colors, including me. Winfract is no better, limiting
> all
> images to a max of 256.
>
Yeah - I've got to agree with this, since I'm still trying to figure out
how to get more colours for my card. I've tried other programs, (such as
FractalExtreme) which offer better control over resolution and number of
colours, but I still like the simplicity of fractint, and keep returning
to it. If I can get past the problem with video modes, I'm sailing!!
Somebody, someone, out there, has got to know something about these ax,
bx, cx, dx values for video modes. Any takers?
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:20:11 +0100
From: Dave <Dave@Quanta.co.uk>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Contest Web S
> Dave,
>
> - It does seem that someone viewing one page full of thumbs are going
> to
> - view those that appear interesting at that size...
> [snipped]
> - Is it possible to agree on a format for entry submission? eg: all
> images
> - must be 640x480, max of 256 colours etc?
>
> Um, did you visit the contest web site? The rules very much set down
> a
> particular size for submissions (although a few people submitted
> larger
> images anyway, and I didn't catch all of them before putting up the
> contest
> site).
Er... no!! I haven't actually - not yet, anyway, but I'll admit I've
been slightly scared off after I visited some web pages that have been
mentioned in the circulars, only to find myself downloading one page
full of large images (7 or so) and following the comments about "a
matter of deciding
which audience I want to please most....the one with limited time or
patience or my Fractint collegues. ", I decided that, given the amount
of surfin' I do and how easily I (and others) click away from a page
that takes ages to download - I fitted into the first category, and have
shyed away from pages containing fractals until I find out a bit more
than the pages.
Guess this is just prejudice on my part, but I'm waiting until the
weekend when call costs are cheaper and I'm at home (rather than work)
to view some of the competition entries.
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:43:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: aq936@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael Traynor)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Contest Web S
regina writes:
>
><snipety snip>
>>
>> {Suppose after the 19th, we allow those who wish to to display their
>>contest images, yet extend the voting another week or two? Does anyone
>>have some thoughts on this, pro or con?}
>
>
>If we allowed that then there would be people who would wait to find out who
>did the image before voting and that would defeat the purpose of anonymity
>in the first place.
Are you confessing or accusing? Please be specific either way.
>Only those worried that their image wont win without someone knowing they
>did it need display it
This is entirely unworthy. In the one case where someone definitely wants
to display images that were submitted, it is because there was a
pre-existing commitment. I could well see someone who used a fractal
generator that is not so widely used as fractint wanting to display a
large format version of their image (I certainly will be using the
fractint pars made available to generate images at large sizes since many
images loose a lot in smaller versions) and would not view this as being in
any way improper. It does not make sense to have what is essentially a
practical compromise on size (to make a practical contest web site)
determine an important parameter for a work.
- --
Mike Traynor
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:15:52 -0400
From: Diosnel Herrnsdorf <diosnel@krauch.com.py>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting sans spaces
Angela Wilczynski wrote:
> I am re-posting the pars I did a few days ago that had a bad case of the dreaded
> spaces.
Dear Angela:
There were no spaces this time.
Regards,
Diosnel
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:32:42 EDT
From: JimBeau549@aol.com
Subject: (fractint) 10 pars (Gallet-6-04&6-08)...in the meantime.
Well, ...it's raining here on the coast of Texas and todays forecast
promises more of the same,.....GREAT weather for fractaling if ya ask me! :)
Enjoy the pics~
Jim
ps ~ .......ummm.....I forgot what I was gonna say now! :(
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