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fractint-digest       Monday, September 7 1998       Volume 01 : Number 290




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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 23:32:31 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) contest

I'm looking forward to seeing all those contest
entries.   :-)


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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 04:02:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) 3 pars(mandel(fnfn) )

   Three images I liked with a bit of epsiloncross and fill color for a
change,....and of course some inversion as always.<g>
   Here's 3 more Les!  Thanks a million for keeping such fine a catalogue of
everyones pars.  I hope I don't become a nuisance for posting too many.  At
least I culled these 3 out of 10!  ;)

     Enjoy~

Jim
*************************************************************************

frightn03          { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/06/98 t=0:01:51.12 P75@800x600res.
                     ;
  reset=1730 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=recip/cosxx passes=1
  center-mag=-8.08963/2.13163e-014/0.02881247/1/90 params=0.5/0/0.5
  float=y maxiter=25 bailoutest=manh inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  periodicity=0
  colors=000DA7<3>CC3000kkkHFN<4>mia<5>J9D<7>a_R<11>FC7D95DA8<3>GFLHHPJJQ<\
  18>uum<7>HBB<19>a_e<15>511<17>VSSWTTYVV_XW<12>yyu<5>edba`_ZXXVTTVST<18>K\
  3KJ1JK2J<12>YPG_RF_QF<20>F51<8>KCMLDPMFQ<13>ago<8>IBJF7FF7F<7>DA8
  }


frightn09          { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/06/98 t=0:00:23.51 P75@800x600res.
                     ; jacco178.map
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=log/sin passes=b
  center-mag=+3.24773052490129500/+0.00000000000001821/0.8403586/1/90
  params=0.04/0/0.62 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=imag fillcolor=107
  inside=epsiloncross invert=1/-0.3/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000NJF<6>CA6A95985<2>553443444545745864<14>SF6TG7VH7WI7YJ8<10>wbO\
  <8>cQB`O9`O9<47>P00A5D<2>I9P<7>kgloloqoq<2>wutyxvyxv<5>fiocgn_dlWbkT_jQY\
  iMVg<6>BPh<18>wUw<9>52N<34>eJcfJcfKc<10>lXVlYVm_W<6>yog<23>PLG
  }


frightn10          { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/06/98 t=0:00:25.54 P75@800x600res.
                     ; jacco178.map
  reset=1960 type=mandel(fn||fn) function=log/sin passes=b
  center-mag=+3.23183779530286300/+0.00000000000001887/1.391322/1/90
  params=0.04/0/0.62 float=y maxiter=50 bailoutest=imag fillcolor=107
  inside=epsiloncross invert=1/-0.3/0 periodicity=0
  colors=000qTutTvwUw<9>52N<34>eJcfJcfKc<10>lXVlYVm_W<6>yog<31>CA6A95985<2\
  >553443444545745864<14>SF6TG7VH7WI7YJ8<10>wbO<8>cQB`O9`O9<47>P00A5D<2>I9\
  P<7>kgloloqoq<2>wutyxvyxv<5>fiocgn_dlWbkT_jQYiMVg<6>BPh<15>oTt
  }

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:18:21 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re: Fractint Mailing List ICQ # List - Sorry

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Hi,

As some of you quite rightly noted, I could have better sent the =
original to the list instead of to all members.
As Xylen said, anybody who does a 'reply to all' will cause a load of =
messages to about a quarter of the list.

I apologize for all inconveniences.

The reason I did it was simple -- only the reply button had to be =
pressed and a number be sent.

I will send the msg to the list anyway now (next msg). This because I =
got seven or eight mail system error msgs, with contents like 'unknown =
user',  'nondeliverable mail', etc.

Christian,
[e-mail]

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As some of you quite rightly noted, I =
could have=20
better sent the original to the list instead of to all =
members.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Xylen said, anybody who does a =
'reply to all'=20
will cause a load of messages to about a quarter of the =
list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I apologize for all =
inconveniences.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I did it was simple -- only =
the reply=20
button had to be pressed and a number be sent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will send the msg to the list anyway =
now (next=20
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contents=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Christian,</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:19:37 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fw: Fractint Mailing List ICQ # List

>Dear fractint list member,
>
>While updating the fractint list ICQ # list, which I maintain since May first
>this year, I came to the wonderful (:-) conclusion that It might be a lot
>easier, at least for me, to send all list members this e-mail to ask whether
>you have an ICQ #, and if so, if you'd be so kind to let me know.
>
>I guess there are a lot of people on the list who actually do have a number
>and haven't let me know yet. There are also people on the list who have about
>five accounts, probably four of them not working.
>
>I'll delete everybody of the ICQ # list who doesn't reply by the end of the
>month September. That's an act of both maintaining some of your privacy, and
>keeping the ICQ # list a bit clean. So if you don't want to get listed here,
>just don't reply to this message. If you don't trust me, don't reply.
>
>This request will be only made once (that's this time). Okay, maybe I'll
>repeat it in a year or so.
>
>The ICQ # list will be posted to the fractint mailing list about once a
month.
>It can also be found online at any time, at
>http://come.to/fractinticq
>
>If you don't know what an ICQ # is, and are interested in the phenomenon,
want
>to use or abuse it, or just want to join over 4,000,000 others, visit
>www.mirabilis.com
>
>Feel welcome to flame me, to my personal address please, if you think I
>spammed you :-)
>
>
>So, in short: Please mail me your ICQ # if you have one.
>
>Thanks in advance and kind regards,
>
>Dean-Christian Strik,
>[e-mail]
>
>
>PS. I haven't posted the # list for about a month now, because I wanted to
>wait until after the update.
>
>
>
>




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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:59:28 -0400
From: Alan Moltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Purchase of a Fractal program

I am very much interested in fractals and fractal design.  I would like to
know the
that is available.  Are there any software packages that I can buy to get
me going without learning to much of the mathematics behind fractal design

         Thank you

[e-mail]


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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:37:09 -0400
From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Hello again

Hello again... miss me? My internet was down for a while...
You may be seeing a bitmore ofme now though!
- --
   .*.  "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not
- -()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a
   `*'  straight line."    -------------------------------------------------
        -- B. Mandelbrot  |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html
_____________________ ____|________     Paul Derbyshire     [e-mail]
Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:38:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: RE: (fractint) Understanding Formulas

On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Dean-Christian Strik wrote:
> Kragen's message contained the following text:
> >>I don't do .INI, .BAT, .DLL or .SYS files. I don't assign apps
> >>to files. I don't configure peripherals or networks before using
> >>them. I have a computer to do all that. I have a Macintosh, not
> >>a hobby. -- Fritz Anderson
>
> And then Marie Drozdis wrote:
> >Please don't use this list to start a platform war.

The above text is called a ".signature".  It's included automatically at
the end of every message I post or send anywhere.  I change it every
week or two, and I hope it's thought-provoking -- but not flame-provoking.

I believe Marie's contribution -- reminding us that the fractint list
is intended for fractint discussion, not discussion on whatever pops
into our heads -- is indeed valuable.  However, I wasn't discussing the
Mac.  It was just mentioned in my .signature.  :)

Kragen

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I don't do .INI, .BAT, .DLL or .SYS files. I don't assign apps to files. I
don't configure peripherals or networks before using them. I have a computer
to do all that. I have a Macintosh, not a hobby. -- Fritz Anderson


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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:40:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: RE: (fractint) Posting fractal images on the web

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Dave wrote:
> True, but I'm looking at it from the point of view that "the more effort
> put in by the one writer, the less effort required by the many readers".

I wholly agree with that.  (That's why I trim out every possible
extraneous line from text I quote in my messages!)

> Perhaps it's a selfish view, I don't know. As for the space available,
> the JPEG+PAR solution sounds a much better idea. Would two JPEGs of the
> same image require less storage space than one GIF?

Usually, yes.  You could set your quality thresholds on your jpegger so
high that the JPEG wasn't any smaller than the .gif, and you could set
them so low that the resulting JPEG was a 200th of the size of the .gif
but usually terrible-looking, or you could set them somewhere in
between.

Kragen (who is copying a bunch of tapes at work, each of which contains
    several big images.  like two-hundred-megabyte images.)

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I don't do .INI, .BAT, .DLL or .SYS files. I don't assign apps to files. I
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:50:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Posting fractal images on the web

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Angela Wilczynski wrote:
> . . .  I figure the
> jpg's....regardless of the copyright babble......will be pilfered.  That
> is certainly another consideration in how I post my images......I give
> up the really good stuff to the web with great reluctance.

You might take a look at Phil Greenspun's policy on the use of his
(numerous, excellent) photos.
<URL:http://photo.net/philg/nasty-copyright-notice.html>.

(I'm sure most of the people on this list have been on the Web long
enough to run across Phil Greenspun, but just in case...)

> 3.  Space limitations are space limitations...period. If one doesn't
> have space available to post (and most don't) the dual posting is not an
> option. I consider my time  and space far more valuable than that of web
> surfers who are a non-paying audience which MUST be considered because
> "their" download minutes will cause them annoyance......

Of course, there's something to this... I'm happy you bothered to post
your images at all!

I try not to take this attitude myself, but I must admit I haven't even
put WIDTH and HEIGHT tags on my <IMG>s, and my web pages are poorly
enough organized that people would likely have trouble finding things
on them.

Kragen

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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 12:46:25 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Purchase of a Fractal program

Alan Moltz wrote:
>
> I am very much interested in fractals and fractal design.  I would like to
> know the
> that is available.  Are there any software packages that I can buy to get
> me going without learning to much of the mathematics behind fractal design
>
>          Thank you
>
> [e-mail]


Alan....

There is no necessity to purchase a fractal program.  Several
outstanding programs are available free...just download them.  Fractint
is my program of choice and  one can remain happily in ignorance of math
or programming to use it. Other wonderful programs are available
too...see

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/graphlinks.htm

That page also has links for tutorials to get you started once you've
downloaded the program.

Angela aka wizzle

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:04:33 -0500
From: "Peter Marsden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Batch files

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Does anyone know how to run batch files such that no video output is =
generated during execution of the batch file itself.   I've tried to =
RTFM for Fractint, Partobat, etc, but I must be too simple.  In the past =
I seem to remember being able to do this, but many computers & OS later =
I have forgotten what I once knew.
    Thanks,

            Peter Marsden (ein ehemaliger "lurker")

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:22:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Batch files

On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Peter Marsden wrote:
> Does anyone know how to run batch files such that no video output is
> generated during execution of the batch file itself.   I've tried to
> RTFM for Fractint, Partobat, etc, but I must be too simple.  In the
> past I seem to remember being able to do this, but many computers & OS
> later I have forgotten what I once knew.

You could use one of the "disk-video" modes to compute the images
you're generating in the batch file.  Is that what you meant?

Kragen (who hates batch files but loves shell scripts)

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:31:50 -0500
From: "Peter Marsden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Batch files

Thanks for your reply, I've tried that, but fractint still generates the
fractals on the screen.  Specifically, I've used partobat to produce the
batchfile of pars from Les StClairs collections, then run the batchfile.
Editing sstools.ini does ensure the chosen videomode is written in the
batchfile, but it does not seem to be executed.

        Peter


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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 14:55:50 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) pars

wow.  WOW.


worthy1            { ; c. 9-6-98 kathy roth
                     ; map adapted from Wizzle
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  formulaname=Celtic_Grav function=conj/tan/atanh
  center-mag=1.25572/0.0708454/4.934956/1/5
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AP<28>C0Bhrz<28>60Azpa<27>LG6JE4KDU<28>98\
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worthy2            { ; c. 9-6-98 kathy roth
                     ; map adapted from Wizzle
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  formulaname=Celtic_Grav function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=1.5675/1.13461/4.089253
  params=-0.005/-0.005/0.07000000000000001/10000000/8/30
  float=y  outside=summ
  colors=000S3G<13>G1D000<13>000wAP<28>C0B\
hrz<28>60Azpa<27>LG6JE4KDU<28>98\
  FUsz<28>6CFf7K<28>G1DKHU<28>98Fb4I<13>S3G
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worthy3            { ; c. 9-6-98 kathy roth
                     ; map adapted from Wizzle
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Celtic_Grav function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=0.832954/-0.000336582/4.978152/1/90
  params=-0.005/-0.005/0.07000000000000001/10000000/8/30
  float=y  outside=summ
  colors=000S3G<13>G1D000<13>000wAP<28>C\
0Bhrz<28>60Azpa<27>LG6JE4KDU<28>98\
  FUsz<28>6CFf7K<28>G1DKHU<28>98Fb4I<13>S3G
  }

worthy4            { ; c. 9-6-98 kathy roth
                     ; map adapted from Wizzle
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Celtic_Grav function=tan/conj/atanh
  center-mag=0.637075/-0.931153/1.965987
  params=-0.005/-0.005/0.07000000000000001/10000000/8/30
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  colors=000hrz<28>60Azpa<27>LG6JE4KD\
U<28>98FUsz<28>6CFf7K<28>G1DKHU<28>98\
  Fb4I<28>G1D000<13>000wAP<28>C0B
  }



frm:Celtic_Grav{ ; Kathy Roth 9-5-98 adapted from Paul W. Carlson
            ;copyright (c) Paul W. Carlson, 1998
            ;original Gravijul by Mark Christenson
    ;****************************************************
    ; Always use floating point math and outside=summ.
    ;
    ; Parameters:
    ;   p1       = Julia set coordinates
    ;   real(p2) = a factor controlling the width of the stalks
    ;   imag(p2) = maximum iterations for stalks
    ;   real(p3) = number of color ranges
    ;   imag(p3) = number of colors in a color range
    ;****************************************************
    w = pixel
    c = p1
    z = 0
    bailout = 0
    iter = 0
    range_num = 0
    stalk_width = real(p2)
    max_iter = imag(p2)
    num_ranges = real(p3)
    colors_in_range = imag(p3)
    ratio = (colors_in_range - 1) / stalk_width:
    ;
    q=fn1(w)
    w=fn3(1/fn2(q*q)), wr = real(w)
    w = w - wr + abs(wr) - c
    ;
    IF (abs(real(w)) <= abs(imag(w)))
        min_dist_to_axis = abs(real(w))
    ELSE
        min_dist_to_axis = abs(imag(w))
    ENDIF
    IF (min_dist_to_axis < stalk_width && iter > 1 && iter <= max_iter)
        z = ratio * min_dist_to_axis + range_num * colors_in_range + 1
        bailout = 1
    ENDIF
    range_num = range_num + 1
    IF (range_num == num_ranges)
        range_num = 0
    ENDIF
    iter = iter + 1
    z = z - iter
    bailout == 0  && |w| < 4
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 15:03:19 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) another par

Here's another, kind of a funny one.
Now I'm not sorry that I had to work on
this weekend.

worthy5            { ; kathy roth 9-6-98
                     ; map adapted from Wizzle
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=Celtic_Grav function=tan/sqr/atanh
  center-mag=-0.568783/1.51448/1.206976
  params=0.4/0.4/0.07000000000000001/10000000/8/30
  float=y  outside=summ
  colors=000S3G<13>G1D000<13>000wAP<28>C0\
Bhrz<28>60Azpa<27>LG6JE4KDU<28>98\
  FUsz<28>6CFf7K<28>G1DKHU<28>98Fb4I<13>S3G
  }






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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 15:36:55 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Gallet-6-08 par

comment {

Here's an also-ran (and my first par post in almost three months)
from my contest prospects.  If Damien didn't get my last-minute
submission, I will post those soon as well.

Gallet-6-08 is such a wonderful formula!  I hope you enjoy it.

Bud

}

g608-1b            { ; "Satin" - (c) 9/5/98 Mark "Bud" Christenson
  reset=1930 type=formula formulafile=filist.frm
  formulaname=gallet-6-08 function=abs/cotan/cotan passes=t
  center-mag=0.669473/-0.80402/1.607143/1.3333
  params=7/-1.2/2/0.3/0.3/0 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=zmag
  outside=atan decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/1/yes/0/0
  colors=111<30>sss<30>222000012<30>0kz<14>0QX000<44>upXwqXxrYzsZysZ<20>YV\
  JXUJWTIVSIURH<3>OLDMKDLJCKIB<14>000X00<14>z00<31>000
  cyclerange=0/255
  }

frm:Gallet-6-08 { ; Sylvie Gallet, 1996
z = pixel , x = real(z) , y = imag(z) :
x1 = x - p1*fn1(y + fn2(p2*x) / fn3(p3*y))
y1 = y - p1*fn1(x + fn2(p2*y) / fn3(p3*x))
x = x1 , y = y1
z = x + flip(y)
|z| <= 1024
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:37:19 -0400
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) pars

At 02:55 PM 9/6/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>wow.  WOW.
>
>
>worthy1 - 5            { ; c. 9-6-98 kathy roth

(pars/frm snipped)


Wow is right!  frm and pars are _worthy_!

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:57:14 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Gallet-6-08 par

  Bud,

      Satin is right!  Very nice indeed. :)

 Take care~

Jim

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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 22:01:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) 3 pars (conic-count_jul16)

  Here's a few nice images from a formula I had never ran before.   Enjoy~

 Jim

******************************************************************************
**

Conic_06           { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/06/98 t=0:01:23.82 P75@800x600res.
                     ; jacco247.map
                     ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=conic-count_jul16 passes=b
  center-mag=8.88178e-015/1.42109e-014/0.078125/1/90
  params=3.1416/-1.25/0.3/5/2/-3 float=y maxiter=255 invert=1/0/0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000hhh<4>VWWSTTRTS<5>ORRORQORQOQQOPQ<10>OINOHNNGMNGL<18>I7GH6FI3F\
  <2>KBGLEGNGG<13>zpUypVxpWwpX<21>975754335102304506861<4>IF3<11>gecjgfjhg\
  <9>srrtsttst<13>kkgkkfiid<22>CF0<17>ZXE`YFaZGc_Hc_Hc_Gc_FdZEfYEhXD<34>75\
  2B96DB8FDAJHFLKHRPN<2>ZYW<4>zzz<5>jkk
  }

Conic_07           { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/06/98 t=0:01:27.39 P75@800x600res.
                     ; jacco247.map
                     ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=conic-count_jul16 passes=b
  center-mag=1.33227e-014/1.53211e-014/0.1113019/1/132.5
  params=3.1416/-1.25/0.66/3.1416/2/-3 float=y maxiter=255
  invert=1/0/0 decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000ihg<2>zzz<11>VWWSTTRTS<5>ORRORQORQOQQOPQ<10>OINOHNNGMNGL<18>I7\
  GH6FI3F<2>KBGLEGNGG<13>zpUypVxpWwpX<21>975754335102304506861<4>IF3<11>ge\
  cjgfjhg<9>srrtsttst<13>kkgkkfiid<22>CF0<17>ZXE`YFaZGc_Hc_Hc_Gc_FdZEfYEhX\
  D<34>752B96DB8FDAJHFLKHRPN<2>ZYWcba
  }

Conic_08           { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/06/98 t=0:01:48.42 P75@800x600res.
                     ; jacco247.map
                     ;
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_ml.frm
  formulaname=conic-count_jul16 passes=b
  center-mag=-1.95399e-014/1.59872e-014/0.09947622/1.486
  params=0.75/10/2/0.33/2/-3 float=y maxiter=255 invert=1/0/0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000llhkkgkkfiid<22>CF0<17>ZXE`YFaZGc_Hc_Hc_Gc_FdZEfYEhXD<34>752B9\
  6DB8FDAJHFLKHRPN<2>ZYW<4>zzz<11>VWWSTTRTS<5>ORRORQORQOQQOPQ<10>OINOHNNGM\
  NGL<18>I7GH6FI3F<2>KBGLEGNGG<13>zpUypVxpWwpX<21>975754335102304506861<4>\
  IF3<11>gecjgfjhg<9>srrtsttst<11>mli
  }


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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 22:37:07 -0600
From: "Xylen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint on Linux?

I have been lucky enough to get a second computer, and I will be installing
Linux on it next week. I was wondering if anybody knows whether fractint
will run under Linux. According to the documentation I've read, Linux will
run many DOS programs, so I may be all right.

I'm really looking forward to seeing fractals on a 200mhz machine with a 3-d
and a 17" monitor.  :)

Xylen
I live in another Dimension. I just have a summer home in Reality.


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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:14:16 -0700
From: euclid <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Only Blue Colors with ATI PC2TV with 32bpp on X

Hello!

I'm trying to get xfractint running on a PC running Linux.  I have a ATI

PC to TV video card with 4MB.
I'm running X with 32bpp color.

The problem is, xfractint only displays blues.  I've tried loading
pallete maps and editing the pallette, but all I get is blue.
If I save the image in as a gif foramted file, I get somthing that sort
of resembles the image, but it is garbled.

I've checked out the FAQ's and such... buuuttt... no luck.

Is there any xfractint wizard out there who has any ideas?

- -chris.


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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:12:41 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Only Blue Colors with ATI PC2TV with 32bpp on X

At 23:14 06/09/98 -0700, chris wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I'm trying to get xfractint running on a PC running Linux.  I have a ATI
>
>PC to TV video card with 4MB.
>I'm running X with 32bpp color.
>
>The problem is, xfractint only displays blues.  I've tried loading
>pallete maps and editing the pallette, but all I get is blue.
>If I save the image in as a gif foramted file, I get somthing that sort
>of resembles the image, but it is garbled.
>
This is true also of DOS Fractint.

It's probably one of the most troublesome "features" of the present
version. The truecolour modes that Fractint runs with are actually
experimental testbeds to test the feasibility of coding a real truecolour
mode in Fractint, which requires a different approach to specifying colour
than the indexed colour method that Fractint and GIF use.

The "colours" that end up in the truecolour image are actually the indices
themselves. With truecolour pixels being represented as three bytes of data
for the red, green, and blue components in that order, the red and green
components get a value of 0, and the blue component gets the number (in the
range 0..255) that in an indexed colour mode would have been used to
specify which colour to use from the current palette. Result: blue images.


Oops, I should have said four bytes of colour data per pixel: the first
byte is _transparency_, then comes rgb. That's 32 bits.


Maybe we should port Fractint over to Java? :-)
Morgan



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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:58:36 +0200
From: Joe Pearson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Batch files

>Thanks for your reply, I've tried that, but fractint still generates the
>fractals on the screen.  Specifically, I've used partobat to produce the
>batchfile of pars from Les StClairs collections, then run the batchfile.
>Editing sstools.ini does ensure the chosen videomode is written in the
>batchfile, but it does not seem to be executed.
>
>        Peter

Peter, what screen resolution are you generating the fractals at?  There
aren't built-in disk-video modes for all resolutions.  To achieve this I
had to edit the fractint.cfg and add a line.  You also have to define a
key sequence for it.  I chose AF5.

Then, try including video=af5 on the partobat command line instead of in
sstools.ini.

What you are trying to do DOES work so keep at it ...

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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:09:44 +0100
From: Dave <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (fractint) Posting fractal images on the web

> > Perhaps it's a selfish view, I don't know. As for the space
> available,
> > the JPEG+PAR solution sounds a much better idea. Would two JPEGs of
> the
> > same image require less storage space than one GIF?
>
> Usually, yes.  You could set your quality thresholds on your jpegger
> so
> high that the JPEG wasn't any smaller than the .gif, and you could set
> them so low that the resulting JPEG was a 200th of the size of the
> .gif
> but usually terrible-looking, or you could set them somewhere in
> between.
.. which raises the question: what thresholds are suitable? Has anyone
tried and have got ball-park figures, or values they use as a
rule-of-thumb? May be an idea to publish these as guidelines for
beginners!

> Kragen (who is copying a bunch of tapes at work, each of which
> contains
>     several big images.  like two-hundred-megabyte images.)
... perhaps you should have stored your images in .jpg form!!! :-)

> --
> <[e-mail]>       Kragen Sitaker
> <http://www.pobox.com/~kragen/>
> I don't do .INI, .BAT, .DLL or .SYS files. I don't assign apps to
> files. I
> don't configure peripherals or networks before using them. I have a
> computer
> to do all that. I have a Macintosh, not a hobby. -- Fritz Anderson
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:50:42 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Just two days left!

Hi Damien et al,

>> Scores of entries have already been received; we certainly appreciate
>> the number of entries (more than last year's contest!) and the
>> exceptional quality and variety. =


  191 images, wow!!!  I'm looking forward to seeing them!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:18:21 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Just two days left!

Sylvie Gallet wrote:
>
> Hi Damien et al,
>
> >> Scores of entries have already been received; we certainly appreciate
> >> the number of entries (more than last year's contest!) and the
> >> exceptional quality and variety.
>
>   191 images, wow!!!  I'm looking forward to seeing them!
>
>   Cheers,
>
>         - Sylvie


And 75 contestants!!!  Jay.....can you tell us how many entered the
contest last year?  I'm having a VERY hard time waiting to see the first
images posted.....this is so neat.  Thanks again to Damien for hosting
and posting.  I love Sharon's awards!!  Thanks to Sharon for taking the
time to do them.

Angela

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