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fractint-digest      Saturday, September 5 1998      Volume 01 : Number 289




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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:38:31 +0200
From: "Hans Bomers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript

Wim,
you wrote:

>Op  2 Sep 98 om 22:14 schreef Phil McRevis over: "Re: fractals in
>postscript"


and you wrote:

>Groetjes,
>    Wim de Lange

You, and me, and some other fellas on this mailing list are Dutch.
But most people are not.
So it would be kind to write your messages all in English.
No offence intended,

hans (cubic)
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:38:31 +0200
From: "Hans Bomers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript

Wim,
you wrote:

>Op  2 Sep 98 om 22:14 schreef Phil McRevis over: "Re: fractals in
>postscript"


and you wrote:

>Groetjes,
>    Wim de Lange

You, and me, and some other fellas on this mailing list are Dutch.
But most people are not.
So it would be kind to write your messages all in English.
No offence intended,

hans (cubic)
[e-mail]





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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:39:51 +0200
From: "Hans Bomers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript

Wim,
you wrote:

>Op  2 Sep 98 om 22:14 schreef Phil McRevis over: "Re: fractals in
>postscript"


and you wrote:

>Groetjes,
>    Wim de Lange

You, and me, and some other fellas on this mailing list are Dutch.
But most people are not.
So it would be kind to write your messages all in English.
No offence intended,

hans (cubic)
[e-mail]






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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:51:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Heather A. Walling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) question

I need a black filled image of the quadric Koch Island (D=1.5) on a white
background.  I figured out that what I want is Koch3 under lsystems, but I
can't determine whether or not it is possible to use Fractint to fill the
area within the perimeter.  So far (after many hours) I still have a white
perimeter on a black screen (inside and outside the curve).  Does anybody
know if it is possible to use Fractint to get a black island on a white
background?

Thanks,
Heather Walling
Graduate Student
Physics Department
UCSB



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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:00:48 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (fractint) Understanding Formulas

Kragen's message contained the following text:

>>I don't do .INI, .BAT, .DLL or .SYS files. I don't assign apps
>>to files. I don't configure peripherals or networks before using
>>them. I have a computer to do all that. I have a Macintosh, not
>>a hobby. -- Fritz Anderson

And then Marie Drozdis wrote:

>Please don't use this list to start a platform war.


I'm sure that *wasn't* Kragen's intention.

But when I'm writing this mail anyway, I'd think it might be a good idea to
take a look at *your* messages. Let's see...

08-08-1998: RE: (fractint) text formats, etc
>How about taking this off the Fractint list?  You can continue
>this in email.

05-14-1998: RE: RE Re: (fractint) Isn't DOS Dead?; Was...
>What does any of this have to do with the Fractint List?

04-28-1998: RE: (fractint) Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT?
>Can we keep messages like this off this list? We've been remarkably free
>of flames til this.

Sure an interesting contribution :-)

I'm sure off-topicness isn't liked by everyone and I don't mind reactions like
yours. But your RE: Understanding Formulas wasn't needed.

[Not that *I* don't write superfluous mails sometimes. So don't take this mail
too seriously either. :-) ]

Christian




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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:17:37 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript

Zeg Hans... doe niet zo flauw wil je? Dat schrijf je toch niet?
Doe me een lol en laat die onzin voortaan.

Dean


PS. En dan krijg ik dat mailtje nog 3x ook. Let voortaan wat beter op je To/CC
entries.

- -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Hans Bomers <[e-mail]>
Aan: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>; Phil McRevis
<[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
<[e-mail]>
Datum: vrijdag 4 september 1998 20:38
Onderwerp: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript


>Wim,
>you wrote:
>
>>Op  2 Sep 98 om 22:14 schreef Phil McRevis over: "Re: fractals in
>>postscript"
>
>
>and you wrote:
>
>>Groetjes,
>>    Wim de Lange
>
>You, and me, and some other fellas on this mailing list are Dutch.
>But most people are not.
>So it would be kind to write your messages all in English.
>No offence intended,
>
>hans (cubic)
>[e-mail]
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:27:33 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) question

>I need a black filled image of the quadric Koch Island (D=1.5) on a white
>background.  I figured out that what I want is Koch3 under lsystems, but I
>can't determine whether or not it is possible to use Fractint to fill the
>area within the perimeter.  So far (after many hours) I still have a white
>perimeter on a black screen (inside and outside the curve).  Does anybody
>know if it is possible to use Fractint to get a black island on a white
>background?


I don't think fractint will help you in this case. It's easy to color-cyle the
foreground color, but I have no knowledge of how to change the background
color.

Filling the 'island' isn't possible yet, but feel free to extend the source
code with this.

Whether or not possible with fractint, the actions you described should be
easily accomplished with any decent (and many indecent) bitmap program:
inverting colors and filling areas.

Christian




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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:23:10 +0200
From: "Dean-Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript

I just wrote:

>Zeg Hans...

That of course should have been off-list.

Sorry,

Christian




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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:43:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:(fractint) Question....w/1par(Koch5)

  This is a white background with black foreground. Could this be what you
were looking for?

Jim

*****************************************************
Black_on_White     { ; hope this helps
  reset=1960 type=lsystem lfile=fractint.l lname=Koch3
  center-mag=1.1085e-005/7.421e-006/1.000007/1.3333 params=2
  maxiter=-26032
  colors=zzz000zzz000zzz000<142>000zjVzrVzzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>\
  zhhzlh000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz\
  000zzz000zzz<19>yzzyzzzzzkkk000zzz<10>zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz0\
  00zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000 cyclerange=0/255
  }


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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 14:06:43 -0700
From: Judy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Question....w/1par(Koch5)

I'm still new at this and have probably just done something wrong but I
when I try to use the parameters below I get something like "Unable to
understand the argument Maxiter = -26032"

I'm using SF4 and SF5 and it finally does display a white outline of the
fractal but not without the error first.

Any suggestions as to what I may be doing incorrectly?

Thanks,
Judy


[e-mail] wrote:
>
>   This is a white background with black foreground. Could this be what you
> were looking for?
>
> Jim
>
> *****************************************************
> Black_on_White     { ; hope this helps
>   reset=1960 type=lsystem lfile=fractint.l lname=Koch3
>   center-mag=1.1085e-005/7.421e-006/1.000007/1.3333 params=2
>   maxiter=-26032
>   colors=zzz000zzz000zzz000<142>000zjVzrVzzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>\
>   zhhzlh000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz\
>   000zzz000zzz<19>yzzyzzzzzkkk000zzz<10>zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz0\
>   00zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000 cyclerange=0/255
>   }
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:18:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Question....w/1par(Koch3)

  I got the same thing when I ran the 1st par,...here's one that should work
ok.
      I hope!

 Jim
*******************************************************

2nd_try            { ; jim
  reset=1960 type=lsystem lfile=fractint.l lname=koch3 passes=1
  center-mag=4.175e-006/7.8395e-006/1.000007/1.3333 params=2 float=y
  colors=zzzzzzzzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz00\
  0zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000<142>000zjVzrVzzV<3>VzV<3>Vzz<2>Vbzhhz<3>zhz<3>\
  zhhzlh000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz000zzz\
  000zzz000zzz<19>yzzyzzzzzkkk000zzz<7>zzz cyclerange=0/255
  }


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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:37:53 -0700
From: Judy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Question....w/1par(Koch3)

Thanks Jim that eliminated the error and now I get a black outline
against white.

I'm going to have to do a lot more reading to even hope to understand
how you determined the values for center-mag (whether it was "trial and
error", previous experience or anyone with any real math skills just
KNOWS the correct values for Koch3)<g>  At this point I have only the
"trial and error" method to rely on but the more I read from the list,
the more hope I have of one day achieving a little of the other to
methods.

My thanks to all of you who have been kind enough to share your
knowledge of fractals by explanation and/or example with those of us
still trying to put it all together.

Judy

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:51:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) 4 pars(lambdafn)

  Just playin' around here.  I used periodicity=0 for the last image and I
still get those unwanted tesseral tracks in the center.  ?? :(
     Oh well, enjoy anyway~

 Jim

******************************************************************************
**

lambdaplay01       { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/04/98 t=0:00:44.11 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=lambdafn function=exp passes=t
  center-mag=3.9335/1.09368/0.1886834/1/30 params=1.2/0.52 float=y
  maxiter=15 bailout=4 inside=bof61 invert=1/0/0 decomp=256
  periodicity=0
  colors=000G0G<3>000<15>0f0<15>zz0<15>zzz<15>000<12>TN0WO0YQ0`S0aU0<14>zz\
  0<14>jB0i70f70<14>000<15>S5N<15>zz0<14>ZZ8XX8VW8TU8RS8<2>LM6JK6HI6FG6DF5\
  <2>795574354033077<10>3nn3rr5nr7jr9frBbr<3>Qzb<9>zz0<6>z_S<5>zD4z90x87<3\
  >m3bj1jf1f<5>K0K
  }

lambdaplay02       { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/04/98 t=0:00:59.65 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=lambdafn function=sinh passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00000000000000444/+0.00000000000000444/0.2218935/1/67.5
  params=1/0.44 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof61 invert=1/0/0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=425THF<3>_PJaRKbRJ<6>lX6nY4mY6<6>dTKbSNbSL<6>fO6gN3fN3<6>XG4VF5VF\
  5<6>aF3bE2bG4<7>jZO<4>gULFKO<35>gfahgbihbjicihb<5>hhbhgbhgbggbgfaffa<2>e\
  dadd`cc`bc`bb_<13>ORUNQUMPTLPS<4>GLPFKOEJNDJMCILBHKAGJ9GI<3>28A068068<21\
  >DDIEEJHHM<2>QQVUTZWUZ<7>nia<8>EAA<8>F23F23E23<5>A55966855622<8>ZAB<8>EA\
  6<6>LA9MAANABOBCQDDSFE
  }

lambdaplay03       { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/04/98 t=0:00:47.12 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=lambdafn function=cosxx passes=t
  center-mag=-3.55271e-015/1.77636e-015/0.1404494 params=1/0.44
  float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof61 invert=1/0/0 decomp=32 periodicity=0
  colors=425bb_<13>ORUNQUMPTLPS<4>GLPFKOEJNDJMCILBHKAGJ9GI<3>28A068068<21>\
  DDIEEJHHM<2>QQVUTZWUZ<7>nia<8>EAA<8>F23F23E23<5>A55966855622<8>ZAB<8>EA6\
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  a<2>edadd`cc`bc`
  }

lambdaplay07       { ; image(c)JimWeaver 9/04/98 t=0:02:10.34 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=lambdafn function=cosh passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00000000000002331/+0.00000000000001799/0.7051149/1/17.5
  params=1/0.485 float=y maxiter=25 inside=bof60 invert=1/0/0
  decomp=256 periodicity=0
  colors=000sqrusswutyxvyxv<5>fiocgn_dlWbkT_jQYiMVg<6>BPh<18>wUw<9>52N<34>\
  eJcfJcfKc<10>lXVlYVm_W<6>yog<31>CA6A95985<2>553443444545745864<14>SF6TG7\
  VH7WI7YJ8<10>wbO<8>cQB`O9`O9<47>P00A5D<2>I9P<7>kgloloqoq
  }

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 03:17:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fractint) 14 pars (Gallet-5-03)

   A few quick and simple images.  It's easy to get carried away with this
formula!

       Enjoy~

Jim

****************************************************************************

G503015            { ; image(c)JimWeaver 09/05/98 t=0:00:37.01 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=recip/tan/sqrt passes=t
  center-mag=-0.21976/-0.21976/0.257732/1/45 params=0.5/0/2.5/0/25/0
  float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000ePFgQG<4>iVOjXQjWP<3>iSJhRHfQG<24>000110<4>74895AA6BB7C<15>WKZ\
  XL_XLaZNf<2>aPm<2>`Og_NeZNcYM`XL_<12>GAIF9GGAH<26>zzz<26>BAE98CA8D<16>QJ\
  JRKJTLK<16>jXQ<17>000usu<7>NRY<16>455343222101321<21>dOF
  }

G503016            { ; image(c)JimWeaver 09/05/98 t=0:00:23.84 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=recip/tan/sinh passes=t
  center-mag=-0.0895275/-0.0895275/0.3164557/1/44.999
  params=0.5/0/2.5/0/25/0 float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 outside=real
  periodicity=0
  colors=000ZW_<15>zzz<26>BAE98CA8D<16>QJJRKJTLK<16>jXQ<17>000usu<7>NRY<16\
  >455343222101321<19>aMEbNEdOFePFgQG<4>iVOjXQjWP<3>iSJhRHfQG<24>000110<4>\
  74895AA6BB7C<15>WKZXL_XLaZNf<2>aPm<2>`Og_NeZNcYM`XL_<12>GAIF9GGAH<9>XUY
  }

G503022            { ; image(c)JimWeaver 09/05/98 t=0:00:50.20 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=recip/tan/asinh passes=t
  center-mag=-0.0895275/-0.0895275/0.3696912/1/44.999
  params=0.5/0/2.5/0/25/0 float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 outside=real
  periodicity=0
  colors=000ABE<4>455343222101321<19>aMEbNEdOFePFgQG<4>iVOjXQjWP<3>iSJhRHf\
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  AIF9GGAH<26>zzz<26>BAE98CA8D<16>QJJRKJTLK<16>jXQ<17>000usu<7>NRY<10>BDF
  }

G503024            { ; image(c)JimWeaver 09/05/98 t=0:02:22.64 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=ident/tan/exp passes=t
  center-mag=-0.0895275/-0.0895275/0.3696912/1/44.999
  params=0.5/0/2.5/0/25/0 float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 outside=real
  periodicity=0
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  }

G503027            { ; image(c)JimWeaver 09/05/98 t=0:01:08.98 P75@800x600res.
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=cos/cotan/sqrt passes=t
  center-mag=-0.0895275/-0.0895275/0.3696912/1/44.999
  params=0.5/0/2.5/0/25/0 float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 outside=real
  periodicity=0
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  }

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  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=gallet-5.frm
  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=cos/acosh/sqrt passes=t
  center-mag=0.716975/0.716975/0.3745367/1/45 params=0.5/0/2.5/0/25/0
  float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60 outside=real periodicity=0
  colors=000LEN<3>GAIF9GGAH<26>zzz<26>BAE98CA8D<16>QJJRKJTLK<16>jXQ<17>000\
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  }

G503032            { ; image(c)JimWeaver 09/05/98 t=0:00:44.82 P75@800x600res.
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  formulaname=Gallet-5-03 function=cos/log/sqrt passes=t
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:17:52 +0100
From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) August Par Collection

Hi everyone,

I know you're all going to be real busy looking at the contest entries but, for
information, August's par collection (338 images) is now available from the
usual spots:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

or, for those who wanted the text of the messages included, go to:

http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/crosstrees/fractasi.htm

Cheers, Les






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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:37:19 -0700
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fields Medal

> From: Jay Hill <[e-mail]>
[...]
>
> There is a trick to printing postscript files to a laser printer, straight
> from DOS. I have it set up at work.  I'll post the trick if there is
> interest. Please email:[e-mail] if you are. (fractint list only
> comes to my home).


I assume your printer is a postscript printer.  Very likely it is not.
But... if so (or you get a postscript printer soon) you can print a
postscript file directly to the printer in a DOS window. Something like

>copy file.ps :prn

Now what I have is an icon on my 'desktop' that looks like this: (right
mouse click to bringing up its properties... Program tab)

Top line:  P
Cmd line:  C:\ut\P.BAT ?
...
Run: Normal window
[X] Close on exit


Now, here is what P.BAT looks like...
rem copy postscript to printer3 printer
rem   drag and drop file onto icon
copy /b %1 \\Server\hp5_printer3

'Server' is the net server name and 'hp5_printer3' is the printer name.

Now I use the File Explorer and drag and drop files onto this icon and they
get printed, like magic.

You can make the icon by creating a shortcut to P.BAT in FileExplorer.
Drag and drop the shortcut onto your wallpaper. Then edit its properties.

Hope this helps
Jay



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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 11:33:48 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Understanding Formulas

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> .......Two parts:  first, I use "t" as a temporary variable to hold the result
> of the conic section calculation.............
>
Thanks, Kerry.  I'm going to mull this over for
a while.

>
>


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<BR>a while.
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 11:38:16 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Understanding Formulas

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Diosnel wrote:

> .....You see that the answer is more in calculus than in analytical geometry,
> though I think there should be some little explanation in the
> preliminars of complex numbers.
> I hope this is not too dark (this is the first time I'm thinking math in
> English) and helps you understand it a little........
>
Thanks!  It sounds as if you think in math in Englishpretty clearly. :-)



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<PRE>.....You see that the answer is more in calculus than in analytical geometry,
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preliminars of complex numbers.
I hope this is not too dark (this is the first time I'm thinking math in
English) and helps you understand it a little........</PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks!  It sounds as if you think in math in Englishpretty clearly.
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:29:52 -0400
From: Paul Derbyshire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Re:

At 01:47 PM 7/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>What's an ICQ number and what it it for?

http://www.mirabilis.com and find out :-)
- --
   .*.  "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not
- -()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a
   `*'  straight line."    -------------------------------------------------
        -- B. Mandelbrot  |http://www3.sympatico.ca/bob.beland/indexn2f.html
_____________________ ____|________     Paul Derbyshire     [e-mail]
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 21:53:19 +0200
From: "Jacco Burger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript

Hans Bomers schreef drie keer / Hans Bomers wrote three times / Hans Bome=
rs
ecrivait trois fois / Hans Bomers schreibte drei mahl:

>You, and me, and some other fellas on this mailing list are Dutch.
>But most people are not.
>So it would be kind to write your messages all in English.
>No offence intended,


Come on, this is silly!

There were only a few Dutch words in Wim's message and I cannot imagine t=
his
would be a problem to anyone on the list. And teaching someone a lesson i=
n
public while it is not even your problem (as you are able to read dutch) =
is
like what we call "trying to be more catholic than the Pope".

Off topic? Without language there would not even be a Fractint Mailing Li=
st!

Remember that the only reason why we speak English on this list is becaus=
e
it is the only language that we all understand (more or less). This is ni=
ce
for the listmembers who's native language is English, but it is a
disadvantage for the others. Speaking for myself, I understand most of wh=
at
is discussed on the list, but sometimes listmembers use words or expressi=
ons
that I don't fully understand. No problem, I am not complaining about thi=
s,
I don't need to understand every detail. But when I send a message to thi=
s
list it is always quite an effort for me to write it in English. Allthoug=
h
many native English speaking people have said I write quite good English =
(I
won't be the judge of that) I will never be able to write in English as g=
ood
as I can express myself in Dutch.

I feel this as very frustrating because right now I cannot express myself=
 in
this message as acurate and detailed as I can in my mind!

So please people, have a bit of patience for those who have put maybe yea=
rs
of time and effort to learn a language that isn't theirs. Please don't ta=
ke
offence in those few foreign words that you sometimes may read in our
messages, but just consider them as a little gentle reminder of us not be=
ing
British / American / Canadian / Irish / Australian / Whateverian.

Groetjes / bye / au revoir / auf wiedersehen / czesc / n=E4kemiin / ciao =
/
adios,
Jacco.
e-mail [e-mail]
webgalery: http://wwwserv.caiw.nl/~jaccobu/index.htm
P.S: Imagine that the Internet was invented 500 years ago - we all would
probably write in Latin now.. :-(


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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:55:42 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) August Par Collection

Les St Clair wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I know you're all going to be real busy looking at the contest entries but, for
> information, August's par collection (338 images) is now available from the
> usual spots:
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/
>
> or, for those who wanted the text of the messages included, go to:
>
> http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/crosstrees/fractasi.htm
>
> Cheers, Les
>
>

Les...

Thanks, as always, for your marvelous service in collecting all those
pars and formulas!  I've really come to rely on your efforts.

Thanks too to all those who took the time to select images to post. I
know this takes more thought, but I very much appreciate seeing the pars
you think are most meaningful.

Happy fractaling!

Angela

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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 14:37:56 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Re: fractals in postscript and English

At 21:53 05/09/98 +0200, Jacco wrote:
>. Speaking for myself, I understand most of what
>is discussed on the list, but sometimes listmembers use words or expressions
>that I don't fully understand.
>
That's all right, the same thing happens to me, and I _am_ a native English
speaker.

>I feel this as very frustrating because right now I cannot express myself in
>this message as acurate and detailed as I can in my mind!
>
Ditto again, but then a lot of my thinking isn't in English, or any
"public" language. Or whatever the word is to describe modes of
communication that people use to express thoughts to each other.

Morgan.
I only know two words of Japanese: Konechiwa and Sayonara. This makes for
very short conversations.



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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 22:53:30 -0400
From: Paul DeCelle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 14 pars (Gallet-5-03)

>A few quick and simple images.  It's easy to get carried away with this formula!

Here's a zoom/reorient/color cycle of Jim's G503038 PAR.  He's right -
this one's fun to work with!

Paul


G503038zoom        { ; JimWeaver G505038 image
                     ; Zoomed and reoriented, color cycled
                     ; Paul DeCelle 9/6/98
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=les_pars.frm
  formulaname=gallet-5-03 function=cotan/log/sqrt passes=t

center-mag=+0.18525806513942410/+0.13074783313699970/30.1433/1.9779/0/1.\
  544 params=2/0/0.8/0/100/0 float=y maxiter=50 inside=bof60
  outside=real periodicity=0 viewwindows=1/0.75/yes/0/0

colors=000GAH<26>zzz<27>98C<17>QJJRKJTLK<16>jXQ<17>000usu<7>NRY<16>45534\

3222101<18>ZKD_LDaMEbNEdOFePFgQG<4>iVOjXQjWP<3>iSJhRHfQG<24>000110<3>636\
  74895AA6BB7C<15>WKZXL_XLaZNf<2>aPm<2>`Og_NeZNcYM`XL_<13>F9G
  }

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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 23:07:26 -0500
From: "Earl Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) August Par Collection

Les wrote,


>Hi everyone,
>
>I know you're all going to be real busy looking at the contest entries but,
for
>information, August's par collection (338 images) is now available from the
>usual spots:
>


I say, "Thanks much for your hard work in keeping the pars together for us.
As usually, another outstanding effort on your part."

And thanks to all of you that posted new pars.  Enjoying seeing what's being
done by others.

Earl


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