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fractint-digest Thursday, April 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 183
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:08:45 -0500
From: David Forbus <forbus@IDT.NET>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
Hello All,
Thanks for the suggestions, but I think my question was
missunderstood. I have no intention of using copywrighted
material for my video. I'll write/produce my own or get
someone I know to do so. I was trying to get a vague idea
about the styles of music that people who enjoy fractal
images like. Lot's of classical music fans out there.
Actually, the suggestions do give me some ideas of what
everyone likes.
Thanks again.......
DLF
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:04:47 -0400
From: "Peter Gavin" <pgavin@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:33:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: cjc26@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, David Forbus wrote:
> I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
> the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
> produce music as well.)
Aphex Twin, Enigma, Orbital, or any other good techno band.
Or maybe Einsturzende Neubauten for the more chaotic pieces. :)
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:09:18 -0600
From: Ray Montgomery <elmont@cdsnet.net>
Subject: (fractint) wizzle & music
Hi wizzle! Just a remark about your statement "...the chaos of
exploration..." Excellant. Should be engraved somewhere.
Also, a note on fractal music. Fractals are indeed chaotic, hence
eclectic, if worth viewing.
Music, to many people, is eclectic. I've met few who did not like a
variety, for a variety of reasons, however wide or narrow the variety is.
Almost every choice of music mentioned on the list would be acceptable. I
like almost all of the selections mentioned. All moot. Because he is
originating the music.
(Happy to read that so many tend to the classics.)
Ray
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:53:00 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
At 18:58 29/04/98 -0500, Paul N. Lee wrote:
>davides wrote:
>>
>> Enigma, Loreena McKennitt's "All Souls Night",
>> "Lament" from A Celtic Tale by Mychael and Jeff Danna,
>> some Bach, Bolero, Mozart: Symphony #41,
>> Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto #3, maybe some Schubert...
>> and some other stuff...
>>
>
>Excellent choices!!! Many of which I would have chosen, especially any
>of Enigma's or Loreena McKennitt's. Also, you might consider
>Rachmaninov's Variations on a Theme of Pagini, and any of Pink Floyd's.
>
Likewise from me, particularly Enigma (Any of Pink Floyd's - "Shine On You
Crazy Diamond" especially). It still depends on the animations
of course; but Strauss' "Blue Danube Waltz" and Holst's "Saturn", "Uranus"
and "Neptune" movements might have their uses.
And speaking of Strauss, I'm reminded of Gyorgy Ligeti's "Atmospheres". If
you don't know what that one is, see the movie 2001 - it's the music for
the seriously trippy bit towards the end when Bowman drops down through the
stargate. 'Nuff zed.
Morgan
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:02:24 +1200
From: "Morgan L. Owens" <packrat@nznet.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
At 19:50 29/04/98 -0700, Angela Wilczynski wrote:
>
>I think there is a lot of Queen ... that would be great.
>
Hmm, that's quite an interesting thought; I can tell 'cos I would have had it
if it wasn't :-)
Off the top of my head I'd point to the a capella in "The Prophet's Song" and
the so-called infinitely ascending staircase at the end of "Teo Toriatte".
Thinking a bit further there's the lead break and bass line in "Dragon
Attack" and the break in "Another One Bites the Dust". Oh, and the
instrumental in "Brighton Rock".
Funny; I count myself as something of a Queen fan, but I never considered
putting fractals to their music before!
Morgan
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:17:52 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
Morgan L. Owens wrote:
>
> It still depends on the animations of course; but
> Strauss' "Blue Danube Waltz" and Holst's "Saturn",
> "Uranus" and "Neptune" movements might have their uses.
>
> And speaking of Strauss, I'm reminded of Gyorgy Ligeti's
> "Atmospheres". If you don't know what that one is,
> see the movie 2001 - it's the music for the seriously
> trippy bit towards the end when Bowman drops down through
> the stargate.
>
It seems as though Stanely Kubrick's movies would be an excellant source
for putting music with images. Since at least several pieces of music
named so far on this thread were used by him.
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:49:59 EDT
From: HWeber8606 <HWeber8606@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Strngy Mandlebrot
Hi Gedeon,
if you wanna see more mandels download all_pars from my website and look at
jo_we_19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26 (jo_we_20 are julias).
To render the images it is very helpful to use a batchfile that you can create
with partobat, which you can download too. It's not the latest version, but
with this one you can interrupt the calculation of an image by hitting the
ESC-key twice and the next image starts to be rendered.
Cheers --Jo--
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 03:11:35 -0400
From: "Brian E. Jones" <bejones@netunlimited.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
For "true" chaotic fractal music, use anything by Edgar Var=E8se.
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 03:15:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Muth <jamth@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
At 03:35 PM 4/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I'm new to the list and kinda new to fractals. I started generating
>fractals with the intent upon making a video. Currently I have
>35 or so 30-second animations made. I'm using a DV Master video
>capture/playback/Firewire card wih 27 Gigs of SCSI Ultra-Wide
>Hard Drives. I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
>the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
>produce music as well.)
IMO, the 18-year-old TV series by Carl Sagan, titled "Cosmos", is
still one of the finest examples of what well chosen music can do
for a program. As I recall, the music to that series was a
combination of classical and electronic. The title music was
"Heaven and Hell" by Vangelis. I have a list of about 30 other
musical compositions that appeared in the series, but at this
time I'd have a hard time finding it.
JIm Muth
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 03:17:12 EDT
From: skydyes@juno.com
Subject: (fractint) Whew! (music and mammoths)
Well, I just got back from out of town (a funeral, alas);
overwhelmed
by the messages I've just slogged through.
Lee: I'm very glad to see you've taken up exploration of the
hypercomplex
mandelbrot set. Can't wait to try your images (I'll start them tonight).
It was
excellent to actually meet you last week and see so many of your
incredible images.
Glad to have opened your eyes to at leat one new type. I'd very much like
to
have a discussion about the hypercomplex set and what people have
discovered
therein. Seems like seeing animations as you morph the j or k parameters
is
about the best way to visualize 4D space.
About music for animations - good to hear so much discussion.
I've
only made a little animation (that old 33Mhz problem) but I've
choreographed
hours and hours of video feedback, which is definitely a kind of dynamic
fractal.
Certainly chaotic anyway, and awfully beautiful, especially when
synchronized to
music, such as Floyd's Wish You Were Here. King Crimson is great too.
Some
of my personal favorites are the instrumental guitar pieces by Jeff Beck.
And
then there's always Johann Sebastian Bach (how can music be "too"
structured
for fractals?! What's more structured than a fractal?) My video feedback
tapes of
these last two musicians are called "Feedbeck," and "Feedbach."
Groan!
One final thought about animations - wouldn't it be great for videotaping
this stuff
if you could change your colormaps without having to go to the "L" menu?
Several ways have already been mentioned, but my favorite would be to
allow
user-assignment of the function keys to your own maps. Please? Please?!
Bedtime now.
Cheers,
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:56:51 -0300 (BST)
From: Jerry Fox <jerry.fox@gecm.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
I'd go for one of several pieces by a synthesiser man named Isao
Tomita; like Albinoni's Adagio (from 'Dawn Chorus', several good ones
here) or some Debussy ('Snowflakes are dancing').
Jerry Fox
PS Do some newsreaders make it difficult to edit the quoted messages?
Lots of contributors to the list seem to be unable or unwilling to
'snip' - even the bit at the end added by xmission, which we have all
seen countless times. I noticed that when Paul gave the sizes of the
longest 3 recent messages, one of them was 95% quote! (No names...)
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 03:30:18 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......
Jerry Fox wrote:
>
> Do some newsreaders make it difficult to edit the quoted messages?
>
I believe that all have the capability to do some form of reply without
including the whole message. Some are not as easy to use as others
though.
>
> Lots of contributors to the list seem to be unable or unwilling to
> 'snip' - even the bit at the end added by xmission, which we have all
> seen countless times. I noticed that when Paul gave the sizes of the
> longest 3 recent messages, one of them was 95% quote! (No names...)
>
You should have seen the one posting a few months ago that had 5 (yes,
that's five) of the FRACTINT Signatures included from each previous
reply.
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Date: 30 Apr 1998 10:39:03 +0200
From: Brederlow <goswin.brederlow@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Comment re: Anyone porting Fractint for Windows NT?
kragen@pobox.com (Kragen) writes:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Nhan Nguyen wrote:
> > Viruses are KILLERS. I'm sure lots of people on here have had some bad
> > experiences with them in their internet life. . . .
>
> Well, I haven't run MS OSes much since starting to use the Internet, so
> I haven't had any. Not a single one. Linux and Linux applications are
> designed with an eye to security, and so there isn't this problem.
>
> Sorry. I'll stop now.
>
> Kragen
When was the last time I had an virus? Must be about 6 Years ago. I
had one or two after that, but they got detected. Nowadays I using an
Operating System, so Viruses are no problem at all.
Only Pseudo Operating Systems like Dos and Win still have Virus
Problems, and its their own fault.
In geman I would say: " Gleich und gleich gesellt sich gerne.",
meaning "same and same like each other" or so.
Win is a Virus, so you will get other Viruses. :))
May the Source be with you.
Mrvn
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Date: 30 Apr 1998 11:09:06 +0200
From: Brederlow <goswin.brederlow@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint on Linux
Kerry Mitchell <lkmitch@primenet.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering installing Linux (essentially, Unix for PC's) on my
> Pentium box. If I do, I'll probably install Xfractint as well. Questions
> for the gurus:
>
> 1) Will Linux/Xfractint perform any faster than Fractint/Win95?
It will gain the CPU power your Windows sucks up. The multitasking is
far better.
> 2) Any features that I may gain or lose with Xfractint?
The Multipart gifs need a little workaround, but why use it? You can
render 2560x2560 images onscreen or on disk.
> 3) I understand that Linux supports multiple cpu's, whereas Win95 won't.
> Will this improve Xfractint's performance?
You can start two xfractints and each one can run on one
CPU. Otherwise you wont benefit greatly. You will gain some
performance, because your other work is running (partly) on the second
CPU, so the first one has more time for xfractint.
> 4) Any other considerations? Like good, freeware auxillary programs?
> Secret decoder rings? Free money? :-)
Fast, secure, cheap, capable. 4 GB of Software for free.
> Please don't take this as an invitation to start a Linux/Win95 holy war.
> Also, please feel free to email me directly, and I'll sumarize for the
> list.
How should one start a war between a Operating System and a System for
Games? :)
May the Source be with you.
Mrvn
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 05:14:39 EDT
From: SKarl52884 <SKarl52884@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) wizzle & music
In a message dated 98-04-30 00:11:20 EDT, you write:
<< All moot. Because he is
originating the music.
(Happy to read that so many tend to the classics.)
Ray
>>
If the music is to be original then I would say to the originator of the
music...
" Do what you know is right in the moment and enjoy..."
Steve
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:21:15 -0600
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Subject: (fractint) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:16:48 +0100
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 05:57:55 -0700
From: "John Wilson" <johnw@netpointer.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:16:48 +0100
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I quite often download technical / scientific papers from the internet. =
In many cases these papers are formatted to PostScript, .ps files. =
Although I have Linux installed (no more, no less), and I do have the =
possibility to view and print these files, I'm much more comfortable =
with Windows NT. But I've never been able to find any windows-bases =
program to view (or possibly even edit) postscript files. Do any of you =
know such a program, and know where to download?
I used to use "Ghostscript" with Win 3.11. It's many incarnations are =
probably still around
John Wilson
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files.=20
Although I have Linux installed (no more, no less), and I do have the=20
possibility to view and print these files, I'm much more comfortable =
with=20
Windows NT. But I've never been able to find any windows-bases program =
to view=20
(or possibly even edit) postscript files. Do any of you know such a =
program, and=20
know where to download?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I used to use =
"Ghostscript" with Win=20
3.11. It's many incarnations are probably still =
around</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>John =
Wilson</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:50:41 -0400
From: wdecker@csc.com
Subject: (fractint) SpiderM par
This result of exploring the SpiderM (J.P.Louvet) formula is the first time
anyone has called one of my fractals 'icky'. I used it as wallpaper for a
few days and noticed that most folks backed away from the screen whan they
saw it. The color map is gallet09.map.
Bill D.
goblin {
reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=0bill.frm formulaname=spiderm
function=cosxx/recip center-mag=-0.350736/0.00319047/10.17849/1/-90
params=1.8/0/2/0 float=y potential=255/500/0
colors=wvy<10>npqmopmopmop<8>fjieihdhgcgfbgf<3>ZdbZdbYcaYcaXb`<2>VaZU`YU\
`YU`Y<12>OVSOVSOVSOVSOUR<68>000wwc<19>kbFkaEj`DiZBiZBhYA<12>aM2`L1`L1`K1\
<10>WE3WD3WC3VB4UB4<5>S75R66R66R66<26>K11J11J11I00I00<30>000
}
frm:spiderM {; by Jean-Pierre Louvet
z=pixel,f=pixel,g=pixel:
f=f/p1+z,
z=fn1(z^(p2+g))+fn2(f),
|z| <= 4
}
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:09:03 +2
From: "J.P. Louvet" <jean-pierre.louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr>
Subject: Re: (fractint) A JPL Formula
Hi Bob and all fractal friends,
Thank you for your posting of my SpiderM formula : I didn't
remember it !!! Where did you find it ? And thanks for these who have
created fractals with this formula ; I will look at these images in a few
hours.
Jean-Pierre louvet : louvet@iuta.u-bordeaux.fr
Fractal album :
http://graffiti.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr/MAPBX/louvet/jpl0.html
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:01:54 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <mchris@hooked.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) spiderM
I have yet to play with this one (looks intriguing),
but I *can* offer a minor shortcut...
spiderM1 {; by Jean-Pierre Louvet
; minor shortcut by Bud 4/30/98
z=pixel,f=pixel, g = f + p2:
f=f/p1+z,
z=fn1(z^g)+fn2(f),
|z| <= 4 }
Bud
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:18:09 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <dmj@fractalus.com>
Subject: Re: (fractint) FractInt on Linux
Mrvn,
- Only Pseudo Operating Systems like Dos and Win still have Virus
- Problems, and its their own fault.
Are you finished Windows-bashing yet? I don't think it's relevant to this
group. Take it to comp.os.linux.advocacy and not here, or send it
privately like Kerry asked.
- It will gain the CPU power your Windows sucks up. The multitasking is
- far better.
I see you're going on hearsay. I can run a DOS program in Windows, and
it's only 2% slower than running it in true DOS. Uh-huh, Windows sure
sucks up a lot of CPU time! (Isn't sarcasm grand?)
- The Multipart gifs need a little workaround, but why use it? You can
- render 2560x2560 images onscreen or on disk.
If you are rendering images for posters, multi-part GIFs are pretty
important. 2560x2560 doesn't get you very far.
- Fast, secure, cheap, capable. 4 GB of Software for free.
As opposed to the who-knows-how-many gigs of free software for Windows?
- How should one start a war between a Operating System and a System for
- Games? :)
Precisely in the manner that you just did. If you wish to be a Linux
advocate, that's fine (although not appropriate on this mailing list), but
you'll advance your cause *much* more effectively if you refrain from
hurling epithets and instead stick to solid, meaningful facts.
Damien M. Jones \\
dmj@fractalus.com \\ http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
\\ http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 09:24:24 -0700
From: "John Wilson" <johnw@netpointer.com>
Subject: (fractint) The Music of Cosmos
I like Jim Muth's music suggestion...the full selection was as follows.
(There may be a few typos; I OCR'd the list from the CD jewel box).
I SPACE/TIME CONTINUUM
A. Heaven & Hell, Part I VANGELIS 3:39
B. Symphony No. 11 HOUSTON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA 2:29
CONDUCTED BY LEOPOLD STOKOWSKI
C. Alpha VANGELIS 2:48
II LIFE
A. Depicting the Cranes in Their Nest G. YAMAGUCH I :59
B. Canon a 3 on a Ground in D ACADEMY OF ST MARTIN-IN-THE-FIELDS 3.24
CONDUCTED BY NEVILLE MARRINER
C. The Four Seasons (Spring) THE LOS ANGELES CHAMBER ORCHESTRA 3.22
CONDUCTED BY GERARD SCHWARZ
SOLOIST. ELMAR 0 IVEIRA
D. The Sea Named Solaris ISAO TOMITA (Arranger) 3.38
III THE HARMONY OF SONG
A. Partita No. 3 ARTHUR GRUMIAUX 2.53
IV EXPLORATION
A. Symphony No. 19 SEVAN PHILHARMONIC 1:49
CONDUCTED BY ALAN HOVHANESS
B. Legacy SYNERGY (LARRYFAST) 2:22
C. Russian Easter Festival Overture L'ORCHESTRERE LA SUISSE ROMANDE 3:03
CONDUCTED BY ERNEST ANSERMET
D. Inside the Heart of the Universe
TORU TAKEMITSU AND THE NHK SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA 1:30
V CATACLYSM
A. Fly Night Bird ROY BUCHANAN 1:26
B. Beauhourg, Part II VANGELIS 1:38
c. The Rite of Spring LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA 2:12
EDUARDO MATA, CONDUCTOR
VI AFFIRMATION
A. Entends-tu les Chiens Aboyer? VANGELIS 4:07
B. Bulgarian Shepherdess Song V. BALKANSKA/L. KANEVSKI/S. ZAKMANOV 2:19
C. Heaven & Hell, Part I VANGELIS 1:49
John Wilson
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:27:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: kragen@pobox.com (Kragen)
Subject: Re: (fractint) FractInt on Linux
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Damien M. Jones wrote:
> - Only Pseudo Operating Systems like Dos and Win still have Virus
> - Problems, and its their own fault.
>
> Are you finished Windows-bashing yet? I don't think it's relevant to this
> group. Take it to comp.os.linux.advocacy and not here, or send it
> privately like Kerry asked.
I agree. OS-bashing doesn't get us anywhere. I suggest Mrvn read the
Linux Advocacy mini-HOWTO, at
<URL:http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Advocacy.html>, as well as
`Linuxmanship' at
<URL:http://electriclichen.com/people/dmarti/linuxmanship.html>.
(Although I should point out that, according to RedHat's estimates,
someone becomes a new Linux user approximately every ten seconds.)
Kragen
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:30:54 +0100
From: "Les St Clair" <les_stclair@crosstrees.prestel.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Strngy Mandlebrot
Jo Weber wrote...
>>Do you like mandels? Here are some pars.<<
Very nice, Jo, all of them!
Here's a zoom into your jo_man10...
cheers, Les
jm10zoom { ; Zoom into Jo Weber's jo_man10 t= 0:24:28.92
; t=calc time [h:mm:ss.] using a PII-266 at 1600x1200
; (c) 1998 by Les St Clair [Par date: Apr 30, 1998]
; e-mail to: les_stclair@compuserve.com
reset=1960 type=mandel passes=1
center-mag=-0.09883564669145983/+0.65655255542659850/867168.9/1/-14.997
params=0/-0.5 float=y maxiter=500 inside=bof61
colors=800K00<11>200000020050<11>los<13>SNCQL9PK8QK6<14>xn_<13>TN9RL7P\
J7PK8<14>nru<14>050130200100<2>011021031041042<7>0A40B40C50C61D71E8000\
<27>0003E8<20>133132122121111000<41>u00w00v00<24>M00
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:32:03 -0400
From: Jack Valero <jval@globalserve.net>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Newcomer
At 04:43 PM 29/04/98 GMT, Arlo wrote:
>I'm new to Fractint(about 6 months)and have been on the mailing list
>for about a week.My biggest problem is that there is so much of it.I'm
>overwhelmed.
Don't worry about it. Life's bigger and you probably handle that
just fine. Compare your current fractint understanding to when
you started and you'll be amazed at the difference.
>I suppose the answer lies in specialising,but what to specialise
>in?
The last thing the world needs is another specialist when we have
such a shortage of generalists. Besides, nobody else can
choose your specialization for you. Probably you can't even choose
it yourself. I suspect that if necessary, your specialization
will eventually choose you. Rather than worry about it, I'd
suggest you just kick back and enjoy the scenery along the way.
>I'm not a mathematician or an artist
Most of us aren't but that's no reason to let it stop you.
If it was, we wouldn't have *any* mathematicians or artists :(
>... so I can't just say 'Oh if I just
>changed that parameter' or 'that would look nice if I zoomed there and used
>x.map'.
But the more familiar you become with Fractint the sooner you
*will* be able to say those things. And amazingly, you'll probably
be right about 1/3 of the time :)
Welcome aboard. By choosing to indulge yourself with Fractint
you have condemned yourself to endless rounds of tinkering,
playing "what if" and frustrating sessions of "close but not
close enough". You're gonna love it!
Regards - Jack
visit our fractal gallery: http://www.globalserve.net/~jval/phractal.html
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:47:08 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <cstrik.isg@hetnet.nl>
Subject: (fractint) Dual-formatted mime
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know there were/are Win-based versions of =
GhostScript.
=20
Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted mime. Outlook Express =
users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save some bits & =
bytes...=20
Christian Strik
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Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =
HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanx Ian, John. I didn't know there =
were/are=20
Win-based versions of GhostScript.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Besides, I saw my message was dual-formatted mime. =
Outlook=20
Express users, does any of you know how to turn it off? May save some =
bits &=20
bytes...</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Christian Strik</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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