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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 10:16:01 -0700
From: Tim Gilman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

Fractint-List,

Sorry for that last message, I didn't intend for it to be list-wide.

Anyone want to see the latest in Fractint for the Macintosh?  I could
enclose it in an email.  haha.  just kidding.  no, really  ;-)

- -=Tim Gilman
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:56:02 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Robert Hailman)
Subject: RE (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

WARNING!!!! Linux is VERY difficult to install. I had to custom build a
computer just to get it to work.

> [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering installing Linux (essentially, Unix for PC's) on my
> Pentium box.  If I do, I'll probably install Xfractint as well.  Questions
> for the gurus:
>
> 1) Will Linux/Xfractint perform any faster than Fractint/Win95?
>
> 2) Any features that I may gain or lose with Xfractint?
>
> 3) I understand that Linux supports multiple cpu's, whereas Win95 won't.
> Will this improve Xfractint's performance?
>
> 4) Any other considerations?  Like good, freeware auxillary programs?
> Secret decoder rings?  Free money?  :-)
>
> Please don't take this as an invitation to start a Linux/Win95 holy war.
> Also, please feel free to email me directly, and I'll sumarize for the
> list.
>
> Thanks,
> Kerry
>
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:20:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: RE (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Robert Hailman wrote:
> WARNING!!!! Linux is VERY difficult to install. I had to custom build a
> computer just to get it to work.

Linux is really pretty easy to install, especially if you get a good
distribution, like RedHat.  Hardware support tends to be more limited
than with Win95, though, because hardware vendors write drivers for
Win95 before releasing their cards; Linux drivers are usually written
by people outside the company, beginning after release.

On my machine, gentle, Linux (Slackware96) installed nicely out of the
box.  The only glitch was that I needed to download a more recent
version of X (the GUI) before I could run GUI programs on it -- I had a
recent Cirrus card.

Look at the Hardware HOWTO before you decide to install Linux on a
particular machine, though :)

Kragen


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Kragen)
Subject: Re: RE (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Kragen wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Robert Hailman wrote:
> > WARNING!!!! Linux is VERY difficult to install. I had to custom build a
> > computer just to get it to work.
>
> Linux is really pretty easy to install, especially if you get a good
> distribution, like RedHat.  . . .
> On my machine, gentle, Linux (Slackware96) . . .

I should add a caveat here.  RedHat, Caldera, SEUL, etc., are intended
to be easy to install.  I understand they generally do a prety good
job.  Slackware is *not* easy to install if you're not comfy with Unix
already.  I understand Debian is in between.

Kragen


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:31:25 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

Kragen,

 - Linux is really pretty easy to install, especially if you get a good
 - distribution, like RedHat.

This depends very much on the person, moreso than the system.  Even RedHat
(which I've installed many times) assumes the person knows quite a bit
about UNIX, Linux, and PCs in general.  It's quite intimidating for
novices, and while it's better than not having an install script at all,
it's not nearly as easy as installing, say, Windows 95.

My point is that most of the people who say Linux is easy seem to have
forgotten how much they've learned.  It's pretty easy for someone familiar
with it, but it's scary indeed for a neophyte.

Damien M. Jones   \\
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:37:39 +0100
From: Michael Bell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Chatting

Felix wrote:
>
> This note on chating makes me think:  How many of you are on ICQ?
>

I am - 11379737

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:44:06 +0100
From: "Christian Strik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

I have installed Linux on my puter about five times. I was never quite fond
of it. I'm convinced, that even with the 'user-friendly' installation with
RedHat, newbies can't do without the help of some expert.

As a matter of fact, just today I tried to install SuSE 5.1 (using 2.0.33).
Installation failed time and time again after selecting packages. I finally
installed Slackware 3.4 (kernel 2.0.30). Seems to work. Now the
configuring...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kragen <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: RE (fractint) Xfractint on Linux


>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Robert Hailman wrote:
>> WARNING!!!! Linux is VERY difficult to install. I had to custom build a
>> computer just to get it to work.
>
>Linux is really pretty easy to install, especially if you get a good
>distribution, like RedHat.  Hardware support tends to be more limited
>than with Win95, though, because hardware vendors write drivers for
>Win95 before releasing their cards; Linux drivers are usually written
>by people outside the company, beginning after release.
>
>On my machine, gentle, Linux (Slackware96) installed nicely out of the
>box.  The only glitch was that I needed to download a more recent
>version of X (the GUI) before I could run GUI programs on it -- I had a
>recent Cirrus card.
>
>Look at the Hardware HOWTO before you decide to install Linux on a
>particular machine, though :)
>
>Kragen
>
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:35:47 -0500
From: David Forbus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

Hello All,

I'm new to the list and kinda new to fractals. I started generating
fractals with the intent upon making a video. Currently I have
35 or so 30-second animations made. I'm using a DV Master video
capture/playback/Firewire card wih 27 Gigs of SCSI Ultra-Wide
Hard Drives. I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
produce music as well.)

Thanks....... DLF

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:28:11 -0500
From: David Forbus <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Fractal Chatting

Michael Bell wrote:
>
> Felix wrote:
> >
> > This note on chating makes me think:  How many of you are on ICQ?
> >
>
> I am - 11379737
>
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I am as well, but don't turn it on often.

2512475

DLF

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:55:38 -0400
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

At 03:35 PM 4/29/1998 -0500, you wrote:
 I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
>the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
>produce music as well.)
>
>Thanks....... DLF

Enigma, Loreena McKennitt's "All Souls Night", "Lament" from A Celtic Tale
by Mychael and Jeff Danna, some Bach, Bolero, Mozart: Symphony #41,
Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto #3, maybe some Schubert...
and some other stuff...
:)


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Back up my hard drive?
How do I put it in reverse?

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:17:50 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) File length limit

I have received a number of messages suggesting that the new 15000
byte limit for a message for this mailing list is too small. I am
willing to put the limit back to the old value of 40000, but first
I'd like to hear from anyone (by private mail please, not to the
list) who would be inconvenienced by receiving 40K messages.

To put this in perspective, fractint.frm is 36K, but has well over
1000 lines. Do we really want to send unsolicited 1000 line
messages to all 230-250 list members?

The 15000 limit is enough for a 500 line file with an average 30
bytes per line, which is typical for PAR and FRM files.

Also, if anyone can volunteer an FTP site to post files, that would
be an alternative for larger files.

Your wish is my command. Send your opinions to me one way or the
other in a short message to [e-mail] and I
will report back the results.

Tim


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:20:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jiho Kim <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

I vote for violin concertos or madrigals, but that's my own preference.
If not, why not some Elvis?  :)  Or Beatles?  It all depends on the
coloring of the 30 second clips.  Is it happy, sad, chaotic, ordered,
smooth, abrupt, bright, dull, euphonious, cacaphonous?  I would choose the
most fitting music.  Good thing about classical music is that it
encompasses all of that somewhere.

There's the problem of fractals being chaotic in nature while music isn't.
Anyway, it all depends on the mood of the animation.

Jiho


On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, davides wrote:

> At 03:35 PM 4/29/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>  I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
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>
> Enigma, Loreena McKennitt's "All Souls Night", "Lament" from A Celtic Tale
> by Mychael and Jeff Danna, some Bach, Bolero, Mozart: Symphony #41,
> Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto #3, maybe some Schubert...
> and some other stuff...
> :)
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:38:26 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Jiho Kim wrote:
>
> There's the problem of fractals being chaotic in nature while music isn't.
> Anyway, it all depends on the mood of the animation.
>

I would have to take offense to that statement.  The "musique concrete" of
the 1960s sounds pretty chaotic to my ear.  Of course, many would dispute
that it is really music...

*WARNING: shameless plug*  King Crimson's album THRaKaTTaK Also has many
chaotic elements in it because it is a collection of live improvisations.
Also the end of "21st Century Schizoid Man."
Of course, some people feel the same way about King Crimson as they do
about musique concrete. :-)

My $.0000002...

Justin K.



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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:40:39 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (fractint) Xfractint on Linux

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Kerry Mitchell wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm considering installing Linux (essentially, Unix for PC's) on my
> Pentium box.  If I do, I'll probably install Xfractint as well.  Questions
> for the gurus:
>
> 1) Will Linux/Xfractint perform any faster than Fractint/Win95?

Actually, it does a little for me on Mandels.  On user formulas, it
doesn't do so well.

> 2) Any features that I may gain or lose with Xfractint?

Other than periodicity checking... no.

> 3) I understand that Linux supports multiple cpu's, whereas Win95 won't.
> Will this improve Xfractint's performance?

Only if XFractint uses threads, which I'm certain it doesn't.

> 4) Any other considerations?  Like good, freeware auxillary programs?
> Secret decoder rings?  Free money?  :-)

No, no, and no.  Sorry...
>
>
> Thanks,
> Kerry
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:42:23 -0400
From: "Jason Hine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

>At 03:35 PM 4/29/1998 -0500, you wrote:
> I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
>>the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
>>produce music as well.)
>>
>>Thanks....... DLF


"Magilla" off Picture of Nectar, by Phish.
"Embryonic Journey" by Jefferson Airplane
Most Mozart, Bach, and other classical pieces.
Other more recent instrumental works (maybe
check out a group called Deep Breakfast...)
I've heard much that I like but know few names
to go along with the songs!
Jason


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:48:48 -0700
From: "Mike and Linda Allison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Newcomer - reply

Hi, Arlo!  Welcome to the list!

I don't think anyone can just look at a par file or two and make any
assumptions about the areas of specialty or talent of the fractal artist
that generated the file.  I think it's just something you have to continue
to explore until you find it yourself.  I find that I spend my fractaling
time doing whatever I enjoy doing, regardless of whether I have any talent
in that area (ok, the rest of you . . . . no snickering!).

But should you decide that you are more of an artist than a mathematician,
I have a couple of my "tips and hints" pages up right now at:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/colors.html

and

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html

and wizzle has several more of both mine and her own posted at:

http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/lindas_lessons.htm

Maybe they will help you decide.

Sorry but I couldn't identify your "sara" formula

Good luck!  :))
Linda

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:58:58 -0500
From: "Paul N. Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

davides wrote:
>
> Enigma, Loreena McKennitt's "All Souls Night",
> "Lament" from A Celtic Tale by Mychael and Jeff Danna,
> some Bach, Bolero, Mozart: Symphony #41,
> Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto #3, maybe some Schubert...
> and some other stuff...
>

Excellent choices!!!  Many of which I would have chosen, especially any
of Enigma's or Loreena McKennitt's.  Also, you might consider
Rachmaninov's Variations on a Theme of Pagini, and any of Pink Floyd's.

P.N.L.

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:25:14 -0400
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

David Forbus wrote:

> I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
> the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video.

Well, that all depends on the fractal and the transition effect of the
animation. For example: a majestically beautiful and complex fractal
like Kathy Roth's recent "Godhead" could appear dissolving to the final
chords of Mahler's Resurrection Symphony. Paul Carlson's "bubbly"
fractals would go well with Vivaldi bassoon concerti. And what about Dr.
J's humorous stuff? Perhaps Alban Berg's Violin Concerto, though some
would say that the latter is not funny. The gravijuls are definitely
suited to Haydn String Quartets, in my opinion. And Jim Muth's fantastic
output ranges anywhere from Bach to Shostakovich. As for my own
creations, I modestly prefer to view them silently.

Gedeon


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:42:55 EDT
From: RParracho <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Iliteracy rears pars and frms

;Its amazing but my daughter does this sort of thing with no anguish at all.
;a repost without the junk.  SORRY about that.

;I have been quietly reading and trying to look at all the pars and frms that
;are generated ;here.  I'm so far behind and almost overwelmed (at least my
;hard drive is), that i figured ;I'd just do some on my own.
;
;Danger this stuff is simple and nothing earth shattering.  This is just a
;beginning.  The map is not mine.  Its called rainbow.  I don't know where it
;came from.  The formula I think is mine.  I've barely touched Orgform's
;database.  Any perversions of ;these formula are at your own risk and
;imagination.  Any comments or advise or criticism will be welcomed.  I put
;the ';' in front of comments ;in a hope to make cleaning this file easier.

Blue_Angel         { ; Rui Parracho
 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1010
 center-mag=0.538426/0.00355741/1.913573/1/-90 float=y maxiter=250
 inside=0 outside=summ decomp=256 periodicity=0
colors=000<29>00w00z00z<28>I0eJ0dK0cL0cM0c<28>x0Wz0Vz0W<30>z0\
zy0zw0z<28>20z00z01z<30>0zz<30>02z00z00y<30>000
  }

Piercing_Pain      { ; Rui Parracho
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011
  passes=t
  center-mag=-0.60240469133020460/+0.41212005984200470/106.5985/1/180
  params=0/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 logmap=3 periodicity=0
  colors=CCC0Io<11>02y00z10y<33>_0R`0Qc0Pb0O<21>x02z00z00z00\
 <62>zy0zz0zz0yz0<44>Hz0Gz0Gz0Gz1<41>1iX1iY0hZ0gZ<18>0Jn
  }

Doe_at_Waters_Edge { ; Rui Parracho
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011
  center-mag=-0.59915535273464890/+0.41648741340726560/674.6739/1/180
  params=0/0 float=y maxiter=512 inside=0 logmap=49 periodicity=0
  colors=CCC0Io<11>02y00z10y<33>_0R`0Qc0Pb0O<21>x02z00z00z00\
 <62>zy0zz0zz0yz0<44>Hz0Gz0Gz0Gz1<41>1iX1iY0hZ0gZ<18>0Jn
  }

Dissolved_Division { ; Rui Parracho
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011
  passes=t
  center-mag=+1.36176595818213600/+0.02706898500723631/113.8038/0.4184/-90
  params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=0 logmap=9 periodicity=0
  colors=@rainbow2.map
  }

Veritable_Goldmine { ; Rui Parracho
                     ; so many zooms I do not know where to start
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011
  passes=t
  center-mag=+1.36440757846796100/+0.02286241223728327/475.1475/1.2978/48.\
  096/-37.055 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=0 logmap=9
  periodicity=0
  colors=CCC0Io<11>02y00z10y<33>_0R`0Qc0Pb0O<21>x02z00z00z00\
  <62>zy0zz0zz0yz0<44>Hz0Gz0Gz0Gz1<41>1iX1iY0hZ0gZ<18>0Jn
  }

Goldmine_2         { ; Rui Parracho
                     ; same as other goldmine but bof61 mapping
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=rspf001.frm formulaname=rsp_1011
  passes=b
  center-mag=+1.36440757846796100/+0.02286241223728327/475.1475/1.2978/48.\
  095/-37.055 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=bof61 logmap=20
  periodicity=0
  colors=CCC0Io<11>02y00z10y<33>_0R`0Qc0Pb0O<21>x02z00z00<63>\
  zy0zz0zz0yz0<44>Hz0Gz0Gz0Gz1<41>1iX1iY0hZ0gZ<18>0Jn
  }

;This formula is a transformed mandel map.  The constant "c" is mapped to a
non linear ;coordinate system.  The second formula is interchangeable...its
only use is to allow me to ;explore the Julia sets of the catalog.

frm:rsp_1010{
z=a=pixel,
c=a*(a*a-1)/(a*a*a*a-3*a*a+1):
z=z*z+c/a, |z|<=64}

frm:rsp_1011{
z=pixel,a=(pixel*(|p1|<=0)+p1),
c=a*(a*a-1)/(a*a*a*a-3*a*a+1):
z=z*z+c/a, |z|<=64}

;if you've read this far down I really need help organizing my par and frm
files.  Any help, ;please?

;Regards,
;Rui Parracho
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:59:00 -0700
From: "Guy Giesbrecht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

Hmmmm..
                    It would seems most appropriate if you had at least some
fractally generated music pieces. I've heard several which are good, I
believe they were in midi format, but that's not hard to work with.
          -- Guy :)E


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>Hello All,
>
>I'm new to the list and kinda new to fractals. I started generating
>fractals with the intent upon making a video. Currently I have
>35 or so 30-second animations made. I'm using a DV Master video
>capture/playback/Firewire card wih 27 Gigs of SCSI Ultra-Wide
>Hard Drives. I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
>the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
>produce music as well.)
>
>Thanks....... DLF
>


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:26:52 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Corrected Par Formatting

Fiddler (GBushta) wrote:
>
> Sorry for the scrambling on the par I just sent.  This one will come across better.  I set the wrap
> to 100 chars for long lines.
>         Japan
> ---------------
> svale01            { ; Secret Valley                         Japan
>                      ; Calctime   0:01:05.75 at 1024x768 on a Pentium200MMX
>                      ; Image Copyright Apr 28 1998 by Greg Bushta


<<snipped>>

Welcome to the list Greg!!  I love your nickname....Fiddler....perfect for
Fractal Fiddling.

I haven't had a chance to look at your par yet, but if you are a disciple of
Linda's I know it will be great.

Hope you have a great time on the list

Angela aka wizzle

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:40:21 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Newcomer

Arlo Kincla wrote:
>
> Hi All
>        I'm new to Fractint(about 6 months)and have been on the mailing list
> for about a week.My biggest problem is that there is so much of it.I'm
> overwhelmed.I suppose the answer lies in specialising,but what to specialise
> in?I'm not a mathematician or an artist so I can't just say 'Oh if I just
> changed that parameter' or 'that would look nice if I zoomed there and used
> x.map'.So far I've pottered around with 3D transforms and landscapes,and
> messed about with PARs and FRMs from FRACTINT.PAR and FRACTINT.FRM.I've had
> the temerity to include a couple.
>               So hopefully somebody could suggest what I should specialise
> in and how I should go about it.
>

Welcome to the list Arlo!!!

I think you should specialize in what you like to do best....after
all...fractaling should be fun. And, unfortunately, only you know what you like
and don't like.

One thing I have observed from my own year with Fractint, is that I've developed
a sort of style and enjoy that which I'm fairly good at.....coloring. I was
probably Crayola-deprived as a child and am now making up for it with a
vengence. I know I tend to prefer working most with images that are fairly hard
edged and geometrical.  But I only came to these conclusions after a lot a
messing around. And I know my style will change and evolve.

You might want to take a peek at Les St. Clair's homepage.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/

Les was brave enough to include some of his early work.  When compared with his
current stuff, you can easily tell he's come a long way baby.

A word of encouragement.....you may still be wondering "where to go" for a
while.... but.........wherever that is.....being on this list will help you get
there faster. In the mean time....enjoy!!!! Experiment and play.....too much of
life is serious and "specialized" already......

welcome to the chaos of exploration!!!

Angela aka wizzle

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:50:00 -0700
From: "Angela Wilczynski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

David Forbus wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm new to the list and kinda new to fractals. <<snipped>> I'm curious to know what kind of music the people on
> the list would like to have on a Fractal Animation Video. (I
> produce music as well.)
>
> Thanks....... DLF


Hi David!!

Welcome aboard the Fractint Express.

For humorous fractals....may I suggest "the Wasps" by Ralph Vaughn
Williams.....the most tongue-in-cheek funny piece of classical music I can think
of. "Also Sprach Zarathustra" by Strauss and "the Planets" by Holst have got to
have a place for "grand" fractals......

Maybe some Stravinsky for chaos???? I can't stand Schoenberg myself and
fervently hope he is in a h*ll where he is condemned to eternally listen to
polkas.

I think there is a lot of Queen, Allman Bros and Led Zepplin that would be
great......Beatles just seem too structured for fractals....which is why I
disagree with Mozart, Bach or other baroque/classic period composers.  A guitar
riff could be sensational with a 15 sec animation.

Angela aka wizzle

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:43:40 -0500
From: Janet Preslar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Resource List

The following is a list of resources for FractInt users and Discussion
List members. (Last updated April 28, 1998)

Please send all corrections, additions, and suggestions to:
Janet Preslar (mailto:[e-mail])

FractInt
    At Spanky =97
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractint.html
    Mirror site =97
        http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fractint.html
    FractInt Documentation =97
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/findex.html
    FractInt semi-official wish list =97
        http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/robin.b2/olig/fracwish.htm

Information, Tutorials and Explanations
    How to run FractInt for DOS under Windows 95 =97
        http://fractal.mta.ca/fractint/fracwin95.html
    Linda Allison's Basic FractInt Hints and Tips =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/basic/basic-information.htm
    Wizzle's hints on getting started =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/hints/tips-fractint.htm
    Linda Allison's Par and Frm tutorial =97
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/lesson.html
    http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/pars_and_frms/lesson.html (mirror)
    Linda Allison's Tutorial on Zooming =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/zoom/zoom-lesson.html
    Linda Allison's Tutorial on Proportioning, Sizing, and Skewing =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/proportion/proportions.htm
    Linda Allison's ColorMap tutorial =97
        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5519/colors.html
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colormaps/colormaps.htm
(mirror)
    Linda Allison's Color Tricks =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/colortricks/colortricks.htm
    Wizzle's Color Map Magic =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/wizmaps/wizmaps.htm
    Damien M. Jones's Fractal Information Page =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/misc/info.htm
    Linda Allison Explains Fractals =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/linda/define/fractals_defined.htm
    Sylvie Gallet's PHC and PTC formula tutorial =97
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/phc/phc-tutor.html
    If...Else tutorial =97
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/If_else.html
    Bradley Beacham's Formula tutorial =97   =20
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/frm-tut/frm-tutor.html
       =20

FractInt Mailing List
    FractInt Mailing List archive =97
        ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/fractint/archive/
    1997 Contest (thumbnails of all the entries) =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/contest/
    The 1997 Contest Kit (Re-create the magic at home!!) =97
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/Contestk.zip
    Les St. Clair's Collection of Mailing List Pars & Formulas
    (all the pars and frms since August 1997) =97
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Les_StClair/fml.htm
    The iFAQ (collected topics from the list) =97
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/iFAQ.html
    Copyrights Discussed (and discussed) =97
        http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/copyright.zip
    ColorMaps collected and organized by Wizzle =97
        http://wizzle.simplenet.com/fractals/fractint_maps/newmaps.htm
    Dr. J's Fractal of the Night =97
        http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html

Additional Programs & Utilities
    George Martin's Orgfrm program =97
    http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/ibmpc/orgfrm.zip
    Ron Barnett's MakeMap utility =97
        http://members.aol.com/RBarn0001/makemap.zip
    Paul Carlson's AddGifs program =97
        http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3825/addgifs.zip
    Thore Berntsen's FractInt Screensaver =97
        http://home.sol.no/~thbernt/fintsave.htm
    Jim Prickett's XMAP and MMAP utilities =97
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9943
    Michael Peter's Partobat utility =97
        http://spanky.triumf.ca/pub/fractals/programs/IBMPC/PARTOB.ZIP

Infinite Fractal Loop
    Home Page =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/
    Graphical List =97
        http://www.fractalus.com/ifl/list.htm

Fractal merchandise (posters, mouse mats, t-shirts, etc.)
    Lifesmith =97
        http://www.lifesmith.com/
    Refractal Design Inc. (fractal jewelry) =97
        http://www.refractal.com

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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:02:06 -0400
From: "Peter Gavin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Music for fractal animations.......

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I think it would be really cool to have a fast zoom on any chaotic set =
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would be cool.  Any really fast techno would be cool....  Kind of like =
any demo with a fractal zoom in it.  (You'll know what I mean if you've =
seen 'Panic' by the Future Crew.)

Pete
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