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fractint-digest        Saturday, April 11 1998        Volume 01 : Number 164




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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:29:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Paul and/or Joyce Carlson)
Subject: Re: (fractint) pars

>Here are 7 pars based on Paul Carlson's great formulas. I hope he will
>continue posting new ones. It is always a pleasure to work with them.

Nice images, Gedeon - I particularly like gp-hycj01 and gp-n3w-01.
And yes, I will continue posting formulas.

Paul Carlson


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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:50:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Computer upgrading: Syquest Sparq

Damien M. Jones Scribed this here stuff :

Lavondyss,

 - Plus you can salvage whatever stuff you have on your diskette and
put it
 - on your HD and then format the diskette.

As opposed to salvaging everything on a HD (by backing it up onto tape
or
something) and reformatting the hard drive...?  Seems like it's pretty
much
the same process, if you get a sector bad on your hard drive.


Personally I'd trhow the diskette away after moving it's contents
away. The little dears seem to just go all the way bad when they turn
on ya.

I go to some place like Satples or Office Depot and buy tyhe generic
boxes of 100 or 150 diskettes (priced at worst between $30 - $40) and
thusly always have oodles of disks at the ready.


I gotta stop these posts before I get a reputation for being usful and
productive.  8-)




                                      L8R


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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:19:55 -0400
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) pars

Thanks for the compliment, Paul, and for the new formula and nice pars you
just posted. I am glad to hear you will continue posting.

Gedeon

Paul and/or Joyce Carlson wrote:

> >Here are 7 pars based on Paul Carlson's great formulas. I hope he will
> >continue posting new ones. It is always a pleasure to work with them.
>
> Nice images, Gedeon - I particularly like gp-hycj01 and gp-n3w-01.
> And yes, I will continue posting formulas.
>
> Paul Carlson




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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:42:38 -0600
From: Ray Montgomery <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Interesting and amusing

        Hi

        "A computer and a cat are somewhat alike - they both purr, and like
to be stroked, and spend a lot of the day motionless.  They also have
secrets they don't necessarily share."

                        JOHN UPDIKE  in  'The New Yorker"

                                                Ray


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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:11:03 -0500
From: Kivryn_H <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Fractint Colors

Can these new fractint map colors, those 100 and some odd posted on a
web site, be used on other fractal programs as well?

Kivryn

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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:33:29 -0700
From: kathy roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) pars from from_jiho1

I wonder if someone can help with this.  I was
finding some nice pars in "from_jiho1"  The most interesting
one was quite different.  I was able to zoom on it and
change it.  When I went back later and zoomed out
the new part was completely different and discontinuous.
I went back to the formula and entered all the same corners
and parameters from scratch  and was unable to re-create it.
I thought it was quite an interesting image.  I sent myself the
par but it is the boring one.  I wanted to send the GIF file
as an attachment but it is 64K.  Would anyone be willing
to look at it and see where it came from?
Here are the other pars.....

fj1                { ; robin's egg
                     ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=trunc/cos
  center-mag=0.454916/-0.196487/0.0732372 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0
  colors=0007JI<18>4AA<13>BZUC`VBZU\
<22>6B56936A4<46>PbF<6>svc<6>feBdc7``8<\
4>FOFJNF<2>caEkfDrkDzqCzmC<8>v8A<5>x39\
<3>`A7QE6KG6<7>rDQ<2>tS_uXcvagwfkw\
knxpryuvzzz<33>LguKguJfuHetHdrHcq<4>F`kE_\
iEZhEYfDYe<8>BUVBUUBTTASR<16>7K\
  J000jjj
  }

fj2                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=atanh/cos
  center-mag=0.454916/-0.196487/0.0732372 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0  colors=000LZk<3>Ums<5>hrwhrwgqv<31>\
OOlNNlOOl<45>wwm<15>0mm<7>8eb9da9da<1\
2>1VQ0UP1UP<11>GaPHaPIbPKcPKcQLdR<19>\
bvkcwmbvl<30>MS2LR0MS0<36>st4<5>TZQ\
  LSXGO`CLd<2>JWj
  }

fj3                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=cos/sin
  center-mag=-0.00902307/0.0519099/0.701022 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0 decomp=256
  colors=000<30>hF1iG1hF1<29>320220000000\
<29>uT0wU0wU0<29>210<31>iJV<31>22\
  1<31>u2G<29>301rrj
  }

fj4                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
                     ;palette by Sylvie Gallet
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=sqr/cos
  center-mag=-1.42109e-014/9.76996e-015/0.0866736 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0  colors=000YYY<30>FFFwzw<21>bhdbhdagc`gc`fb<6>\
WaYVaYV`XU`XT_W<6>RYURYTQXTQXSQXS<7>OUONTNNTNMSMMSL<3>\
JPJJPIIOHINGHMF<4>EIBEIADH9CH8BG7BG6AF5EF0<30\
  >`XJaYKaYKaYL<28>nj_nj_ok`ola<12>xuk669000<12>000zzz\
<45>ZZZUUU
  }

fj5                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=sqr/cos
  center-mag=-1.06581e-014/7.10543e-015/0.07107235 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0
  colors=0000zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt<6>\
JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<15>_zn<6>LO3<8>px9<5\
>KMGFGIBBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz<7>\
J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0<7>\
  99J<15>WWz<7>0J9<12>0rS000jjj
  }

fj6                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=cos/sin
  center-mag=0.394197/-0.808328/0.05496012 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0 decomp=256  colors=000<2>000<7>KKQNNTQQXTT_VWa\
<3>dfkginhjn<2>kmn<13>OI5<11>pgTriVulY\
xn_zpa<4>jdWgaVcZT`WSYUR<3>KJNHGM\
GFL<10>724602702<20>Q08R09S09T0AU0A<6>`\
0Da0Db2D<14>zVF<10>hAEaI9<6>xTF<8>H3AC09\
908<6>KBDMDEMFF<2>MMILPKNRM<9>km\
  n<6>D92<3>LG4OI5QK7<12>vlYxn_yo`zpa<14>OI5000<24>000
  }

fj7                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=sinh/tan
  center-mag=0.147432/0.0720863/0.02129752 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0
  colors=000v7A<4>x39<3>`A7QE6KG6<4>\
dEIiiimDNrDQ<2>tS_uXcvagwfkwknxpryuvzz\
  z<33>LguKguJfuHetHdrHcq<4>F`kE_iEZhEYfD\
Ye<8>BUVBUUBTTASR<16>7KJ000jjj7JI<18>4AA<13>BZUC`VBZU<22>6B56936A4\
<46>PbF<6>svc<6>feBdc7``8<4>FOFJNF<2>ca\
  EkfDrkDzqCzmC<6>wHA000jjj
  }

fj8                { ; 4-10-98 kathy roth
                     ; frm by Jiho Kim
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=from_jiho1 function=sin/tan
  center-mag=-0.189876/0.269284/0.1805382/1/-90 params=0/0 float=y
  maxiter=2147483647 bailout=6 inside=maxiter potential=255/255/0
  invert=10/0/0  colors=000BBM<14>WWz<7>J9J<15>zWz\
<7>J09<15>z0W<7>J90<15>zW0<7>JJ0<15>zz0\
  <7>99J<15>WWz<7>0J9<15>0zW<7>0JJ<14>0xx0zz2tt\
<6>JE9<15>yjU<7>BJF<15>_zn<\
  6>LO3<8>px9<6>FGI
  }






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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:42:47 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) 2 Questions

Jon asked:

> 1.    When is ver 20 coming out

Stone Soup, being a group of volnteers, doesn't have a fixed
schedule. We are currently considering release relatively soon of a
version "20" that has Robin Bussell's fractal evolver. But we might
to wait and continue working on more features.

> 2.    In version 20 is there going to be a simple text editor so that when
> you are fooling around with frms you don't have to start up the text editor
> out of fractint

No.

Tim Wegner


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:38:45 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) pars from from_jiho1

Hi Kathy,

>> I wanted to send the GIF file as an attachment but it is 64K.  Would
>> anyone be willing to look at it and see where it came from?

  Yes, send me the GIF file.

>> Here are the other pars.....

  Thanks!  I especially loved fj3.

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 09:16:11 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Julia spheroids formula

Hi Paul,

>> This formula, like the 3D_Balls formulas, creates images with balls
>> (or spheroids). =


  Nice images!  Thanks!

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:34:22 -0700
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Matrox Problem

My new puter is up and running and of course the very first program I
loaded was Fractint.....which now lives in a partion of it's very own. I
have version 19.6 and found Sylvie's driver for my Matrox Millennium II
card and it works fine (as do all the other VESA drivers) ....but only to a
point. Pars, formulas, color cycling work but when I load a new color map
the screen turns to icky lines. In order to get a decent image I am forced
to select a video mode again after I load the new color map.  Not perfect!!

What to do?? All help is appreciated.

Angela

P.S. Windoze story......

My new motherboard has a SCSI slot and my son couldn't get the internal Zip
drive connected to that slot to work using the Iomega drivers.  He gave up
around 12PM Thursday night and I tried my hand last night. Unloaded the
driver he added and asked Winders to "find new hardware"......nada.
OK....re-install the Iomega driver manually as an SCSI
device......nothing...remove it again. Surf to Iomega site on the
web.....where there are lots of questions to answer......is my Iomega drive
plugged into an Iomega something?....don't know....so have to undo cover of
new puter and peer inside. New zip drive is plugged right into the new
motherboard....ok....can now answer that question......back to website for
insight.....a clue!!! If not plugged into an Iomega card there are drivers
provided by the manufacturer of whatever one is plugged
into....ok....desparation time....read the documentation that came with the
board. As can be expected from documentation....it answers every
conceivable question but the one I need.....what driver do I use with
Win95? (that ought to be pretty basic but is missing from 3 booklets).

OK....time to glare at the 4 diskettes that came with the board....load up
first diskette. Nothing......additional glaring required.....ah HA!!!! One
says Win95 (in itty bitty letters) on label....and there...lo and behold is
a win95 folder. Back to Control Panel in Winders......I'm on my way!!!  Add
new SCSI device......I HAVE A DISK (smirk).....find that driver....load
it!!! yes...yes.....now...look at the hardware profile....and....nothing.
No SCSI device even though I added it manually. <<<sigh>>>>

Wonder what this big yellow question mark is for (I'm in control
panel...system).....hmmmmmmm.....that mentions SCSI when I click on
it....maybe I can put the drivers there.....let's try.....done......reboot
to take effect.

Ut oh.....the re-boot makes WinDoze go into safe mode.....<<<<another big
sigh>>>>>>> Maybe I should remove what I did......reboot.......and guess
what??????  at the reboot Windows announces that it "found new
hardware"!!!!!!!!!  It found the @###ing SCSI slot that I'd been trying to
install for hours!!!! So I guess the manual ought to read.

1.  Locate Win95 SCSI driver which is not in any of the documentation that
comes with your board.
2.  Try (sucker) to add the driver manually as an SCSI device (gotcha!!).
Windows will refuse to acknowledge it.
3.  Change the driver in any other random place where you can find Win95
mention SCSI.
4.  Re-boot to find your system is in safe-mode.....but don't
panic....remove the driver.
5.  Re-boot and wonder why Win95 Now finds the driver and and your SCSI
slot but be grateful for this "feature" brought to you by Microsnot.

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:32:01 -0700
From: "Jay Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) How'd he do that?

Hey guys and gals,

Just to point out what I think is a really cool picture
posted over in that other list (fractal-art) by Jim Muth.
His Fractal of the Day titled Pink Midget is very nice.

But look here before it is gone!
http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD_Yesterday.html

Gone? Well yes, gone!!! Because when I create it from
the supplied par I get a different picture! Look here...
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/PINK_M2.GIF

My copy has a gray mote around the black midget.
How... er, why does it do this?  I think it is neato but
since it is not reproducible, it drops into the mysterious
fractal land of Dr. J.

Speaking of which, check out FotN, there is some
activity again there...  :-)
http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/FotN/FotNindx.html

Jay


For reference...
Pink_Midget { ; by Jim Muth
 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
 formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 passes=t
 center-mag=-0.00218445795124279/-0.23466738826017880/1.0\
 17131e+011 params=4/3/2/1 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25
 inside=0 logmap=123 symmetry=none periodicity=10
 colors=00016727929A2CB3LI3MJ4NL4OM4PN4QO4SP5TVP\
 beUehYhllqupsxstxutyuqvuottlrvgmwflxckyXgzVfzUe\
 rUYoVVmUTjUQgTNeTLVJATH8QG5OF3PE4QD5ZJB_KC_LD`P\
 E_TFbVFcXFeYFe_FV`FVcFVcFTdEReDPfCOfBJl9Hm8Fp7A\
 u59w47w35w24v2KncQamVQxO9xLpKFeOWV_bLia5ohzqD\
 WV9WSEXZQhqU8YU4WT3UM2FM2EN4FP9FQGFblFc\
 nFcqFSymxzkCzySzxEzz0zz1zz }

frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth
 c=pixel, a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2),
 f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j
:
 z=(a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f))+c,
 |z| <= 100
}


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:18:53 -0700
From: Mark Christenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) How'd he do that?

At 10:32 AM 4/11/98 -0700, Jay wrote:
>Hey guys and gals,
>
>Just to point out what I think is a really cool picture
>posted over in that other list (fractal-art) by Jim Muth.
>His Fractal of the Day titled Pink Midget is very nice.

I agree!  I'd also like to see a working par.  Nice work on
the Pink Midget, Jim!  Is this another map compression
quirk?


Bud


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:39:51 -0700
From: Wizzle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Problem solved

Thanks to those who helped me with my Matrox problem....which is now solved.

Everyone's pars look glorious on a 19" monitor!!!!!

For what it's worth here are my observations on upgrading:

1.  Processor speed.......nice but don't put too much money here
2.  Motherboard & SCSI - if you are thinking about an internal zip or jaz
or other drive...this is the place to spend bucks.....my new zip drive
screams compared to the parallel port version and is a perfectly acceptable
speed to me for back ups. Also, I'll be able to upgrade easily.
3.  Memory.....yup....get lots cause it's fairly cheap. Do be aware that a
hot AGP pent II board like mine (Iwill PIILS) can only accept dimms which
are considerably more expensive than simms. I got 128megs but then I do a
lot of graphics besides fractint. I'd say 64megs is just fine.......I ran
my old puter at 48megs RAM for programs like Bryce 3D and Corel Draw.....no
probs.
4.  Zip or other large storage medium......my new internal zip cost $102
OEM.  For dedicated fractalers this has got to be the place to spend
bucks.....on storage media for all our neato gifs.
5. Big monitor - I moved from a 14" MAG to a 19" Optiquest....nice....but
a 17" monitor (like I have at work) is fine.  Even my 14" is acceptable on
a tight budget.
5.  Big monitor's need big video cards....add bucks.  My Matrox card was
$269 (but I'm still shopping and can get a rebate at Fry's here in Calif)
6.  Modem....56.6 is now the cheapo standard...the advice is to shop for
the features you need....I decided against a fax/modem (saved $50) cause
I've never faxed anything...why bother if you can attach files to an email??
7.  CD Rom - ho hum unless one is a gamer......otherwise go for bottom line
at $100 like I did
8.  Speakers....up to you if this is important...I listen to music the old
fashioned way on a sound system
9.  Sound card.....see comment #8.....

Shopping tip.....you can get zip cartridges at

http://www.mcglen.com/McGlenWeb/home.asp

 on sale for $9.95 each currently.  JAZ cartridges are $75

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:39:20 -0500
From: "Damien M. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Matrox Problem

Angela,

 - Pars, formulas, color cycling work but when I load a new color map
 - the screen turns to icky lines.

Put "textsafe=save" in your SSTOOLS.INI file.

Damien M. Jones   \\
[e-mail]  \\  http://www.icd.com/tsd/ (temporary sanity designs)
                    \\  http://www.fractalus.com/ (fractals are my hobby)

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:13:22 -0400
From: Sylvie Gallet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) How'd he do that?

Hi Jay,

>> My copy has a gray mote around the black midget.  How... er, why does
>> it do this?  I think it is neato but  since it is not reproducible,
>> it drops into the mysterious  fractal land of Dr. J. =


  I removed all of the <nnn> sequences in Jim's par, and the resulting pa=
r
produces exactly the same image as yours:

Jay's-Pink_Midget        { ; 40min on a 486-100, 640x480
  reset=3D1960 type=3Dformula formulafile=3Dcritical.frm
  formulaname=3DMandelbrotMix4 passes=3Dt
  center-mag=3D-0.00218445795124279/-0.23466738826017880/1.0\
  17131e+011 params=3D4/3/2/1 float=3Dy maxiter=3D6000 bailout=3D25
  inside=3D0 logmap=3D123 symmetry=3Dnone periodicity=3D10
  colors=3D00016727929A2CB3LI3MJ4NL4OM4PN4QO4SP5TVP\
  beUehYhllqupsxstxutyuqvuottlrvgmwflxckyXgzVfzUe\
  rUYoVVmUTjUQgTNeTLVJATH8QG5OF3PE4QD5ZJB_KC_LD`P\
  E_TFbVFcXFeYFe_FV`FVcFVcFTdEReDPfCOfBJl9Hm8Fp7A\
  u59w47w35w24v2KncQamVQxO9xLpKFeOWV_bLia5ohzqD\
  WV9WSEXZQhqU8YU4WT3UM2FM2EN4FP9FQGFblFc\
  nFcqFSymxzkCzySzxEzz0zz1zz
  }

  Cheers,

        - Sylvie

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:48:11 EDT
From: Genealogy1 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) Perhaps of interest...

I thought these 2 images may be of interest. The colors help "make"
the images worthwhile (I think).

- --Bob Carr--

frm:Carr3401(YAXIS){;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm.1996
;passes=1 needs to be used with this PHC formula
pixel=-abs(real(pixel))+flip(imag(pixel))
b5=abs(0.33-conj(pixel^3))/(conj(3*pixel))-0.14
b4=(-0.7186,-0.132)/2
c=whitesq*b4-(whitesq==0)*b4
z=whitesq*b5^0.7456-(whitesq==0)*b5
c1=1.5*z^1.2,c2=2.25*z,c3=3.375*z,c4=5.0625*z
l1=real(p1),l2=imag(p1),l3=real(p2),l4=imag(p2)
bailout=16,iter=0:
t1=(iter==l1),t2=(iter==l2),t3=(iter==l3),t4=(iter==l4)
t=1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=z*t,c=c*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4

z=z*z+c
iter=iter+1
(conj(|z|))<=bailout
}

frm:Carr3402(YAXIS){;Modified Sylvie Gallet frm.1996
;passes=1 needs to be used with this PHC formula
pixel=-abs(real(pixel))+flip(imag(pixel))
b5=abs(0.33-flip(pixel^3))/(conj(3*pixel))-0.14
b4=(-0.7186,-0.182)/2
c=whitesq*b4-(whitesq==0)*b4
z=whitesq*b5^0.7456-(whitesq==0)*b5
c1=1.5*z^1.2,c2=2.25*z,c3=3.375*z,c4=5.0625*z
l1=real(p1),l2=imag(p1),l3=real(p2),l4=imag(p2)
bailout=16,iter=0:
t1=(iter==l1),t2=(iter==l2),t3=(iter==l3),t4=(iter==l4)
t=1-(t1||t2||t3||t4),z=z*t,c=c*t+c1*t1+c2*t2+c3*t3+c4*t4
z=z*z+c
iter=iter+1
(conj(|z|))<=bailout
}

Carr3401          { ; Julia splendored Mandel !!!!!
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=43hCarr.frm formulaname=Carr3401
  passes=1 center-mag=0.0010622/-0.239107/0.5101684/1/180
  params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 periodicity=0
  colors=000<4>000000214000<14>zo`<15>UMFOI5<13>loqnrumpt<24>PH_OGZNEYLCXK\
  BWI9VH7U<32>nru<14>OI7zVF<14>000<15>yVF<15>000000<13>TSvVUzWQs<7>h00<7>z\
  z0<7>MzU<6>zz0<8>`00<6>YDrXFzVEv<5>I8Y
  }

Carr3402          { ; And another !!!!!
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=43hCarr.frm formulaname=Carr3402
  passes=1 center-mag=0.0010622/-0.0566821/0.4734364
  params=200/300/400/550 float=y maxiter=647 periodicity=0
  colors=000000<13>XFt<12>000B00<9>a00<7>zz0wt0tb0ub0n_0kW0<4>W00<7>800000\
  007<11>70X<6>vsd<9>IMh<3>`Fw<7>5Pw<10>02C007000<5>PHHTKKXPN<5>vsc<5>ujUu\
  hSufQudOubM<3>wUF<9>H00000000<20>o00<14>000000RII<3>aWSdZVeaX<2>okdroftr\
  iwvkzyn<10>XFw<12>63B427213000000014<13>7Mw
  }


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:31:41 +0100
From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) sstools again

Hi Ray,

> I get a screen, instead of the credits that says..."Oops. I couldn't
> understand the argument:
> Recordcolors=yes

This option was added with version 19.5
Are you sure you don't have an old version of Fractint?
You can check the version number by hitting <F1> - it's displayed at the top of
the screen.

cheers, Les


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:17:15 +0100
From: "Les St Clair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) How'd he do that?

(note: I had a problem posting this, if you've received other copies my
apologies!)

Jay Hill asked...


>My copy has a gray mote around the black midget.
>How... er, why does it do this?

>For reference...
>Pink_Midget { ; by Jim Muth
> reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm
> formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 passes=t
> center-mag=-0.00218445795124279/-0.23466738826017880/1.0\
> 17131e+011 params=4/3/2/1 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25
> inside=0 logmap=123 symmetry=none periodicity=10
> colors=00016727929A2CB3LI3MJ4NL4OM4PN4QO4SP5TVP\
> beUehYhllqupsxstxutyuqvuottlrvgmwflxckyXgzVfzUe\
> rUYoVVmUTjUQgTNeTLVJATH8QG5OF3PE4QD5ZJB_KC_LD`P\
> E_TFbVFcXFeYFe_FV`FVcFVcFTdEReDPfCOfBJl9Hm8Fp7A\
> u59w47w35w24v2KncQamVQxO9xLpKFeOWV_bLia5ohzqD\
> WV9WSEXZQhqU8YU4WT3UM2FM2EN4FP9FQGFblFc\
> nFcqFSymxzkCzySzxEzz0zz1zz }
>


You've lost part of the colour info in your par.
Compare the two images, hit "E" and look at the palettes. Yours has mostly grey
squares!

I suspect that you've saved your par from a web browser and it's chopped out
all of the statements enclosed in angled brackets, i.e. <gone!>. See the correct
version below.


Pink_Midget        { ; Fractal of the day, 09-04-98
                     ; 40min on a 486-100, 640x480
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=frac_art.frm
  formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 passes=t
  center-mag=-0.00218445795124279/-0.23466738826017880/1.0\
  17131e+011 params=4/3/2/1 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25
  inside=0 logmap=123 symmetry=none periodicity=10
  colors=00016727929A2CB<5>3LI3MJ4NL4OM4PN4QO4SP<4>5TV<4>P\
  beUehYhl<2>lqupsxstxutyuqvuottlr<3>vgmwflxck<2>yXgzVfzUe\
  <2>rUYoVVmUTjUQgTNeTL<3>VJATH8QG5OF3PE4QD5<5>ZJB_KC_LD`P\
  E_TFbVFcXFeYFe_FV`F<2>VcFVcFTdEReDPfCOfB<2>Jl9Hm8Fp7<2>A\
  u59w47w35w24v2KncQamVQxO9x<16>LpKFeOWV_bLia5o<11>hzq<6>D\
  WV9WSEXZ<2>Qhq<7>U8YU4WT3U<14>M2FM2EN4F<2>P9FQGF<16>blFc\
  nFcqF<7>Sym<18>xzk<15>Czy<7>SzxEzz0zz<2>1zz
  }

cheers, Les





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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: "James R. McKenzie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) textsafe makes things worse...

I, like alot of users, have Win95 (OSR1, 4.00.950a) and haven't "yet"
upgraded the memory in my system so when I ALT-TAB between programs
under GUI-Mode and go back to FRACTINT I get the ugliest-freakiest
images.  It's been damn disapointing sometimes especially since I ran
one of the PAR setting that just plain choked my old 486 slc-33mhz
system with it's blazing 4 meg O' 30 pin-simm RAM.  I've since added
the TEXTSAFE thingy in and it locked my system up completely (ever had
an engine sieze up on you folx, "that" kind of lock-up) and when I hit
<RESET> the system spent a handsome amount of time repairing the
<registry> and so booted up way slow, worked OK afterwards though.  I
can't use "textsafe" and a new video card is far from likely.  I just
can't afford one right now.  Why would this happen this way? (the
video miscue that is)


My vid card is a Phoenix Trio 32/64 with 2 meg of RAM, not expandable.

my system is a 6x86 120Mhz (no MMX) w/ 16 meg EDO, and I run FRACTINT
at SF7 (1024x768x256).

Any suggestions?

BTW the "textsafe" is not still in my sstools.ini file.



                       Perplexed and Addled


                         James R. McKenzie


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 23:03:06 +0100
From: Michael Bell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New Colormaps

Tim Wegner wrote:
>
> Sylvie said, in referring to where the color compression code is in
> the fractint sources:
>
> >   It's in miscovl.c, lines 959-1033.  Have fun! ;-))
>
> I challenge all the bright programmers here to modify the sources so
> that the compression is 100% reversable, but still works OK with
> existing PARS.
>
> Tim

I don't claim to be a bright programmer - and I haven't looked through
much of the source but surely the only reason it's "lossy" is that the
compression has a tolerance on it - If you take out the diffmag!=1 on
line 1000 then surely you would loose the problems (I haven't tried it
though).  Although this could make the entries in the Pars much longer,
so  you might want an option on it so that you could either have it
"super-accurate" or not quite perfect (as it is now).  I guess that the
reverse process would be unaffected if you changed this.

Michael.

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:45:50 -0600
From: "Tim Wegner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) New Colormaps

Michael wrote:

> I don't claim to be a bright programmer - and I haven't looked through
> much of the source but surely the only reason it's "lossy" is that the
> compression has a tolerance on it - If you take out the diffmag!=1 on
> line 1000 then surely you would loose the problems (I haven't tried it
> though).

I give you high marks for having a look! Thanks! However, this is the
result:

Old lyapunov map encodes this way:

colors=000zk0<253>000

With your change it is:

colors=000<3>zk0<250>000

As you can see, the result is visually very different.

I'm sure Sylvie will argue with me, and maybe come up with a
counterexample, but if you load the PAR form of Lyapunov.map and
compare it with the original, it looks to me like no color differs by
more than 4. (On a VGA, 4 out of 256 is the smallest possible
difference.) If this is always true, I'd say the inaccuracy is no big
deal.

However, if you have other suggestions, I'd be happy to try them, and
even send you an exeutable with your suggestions implemented.

I noticed that diffmag is tested later on. In fact there's even an
error message saying "Tell Tim Wegner to check diffmag" so I must
have looked at this once :-) The colors code has been there for a
very long time.

If you (or someone else) wants to pursue the study of the colors
compression algorithm more we should move the conversation to the
developer's list since the traffic here is high. If anyone is
interested please send me an email.

Tim





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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:22:30, -0500
From: [e-mail] (MR CHARLES F CROCKER)
Subject: Re: (fractint) Perhaps of interest...

Hi All

I don't think the interest that Bob expressed is just what I have found,
but I seem to have a knack for getting into strange happenings.

In Carr3402 I can only run the formula once without starting Fractint from
scratch. Interrupting and restarting, zooming, or what have you, and you
get Error(4) and Error(2). It is always at the same point in the color
data. The indicator points to the ` in the sequence  <3>`Fw<7> . I know
that sometimes the parser shows an error without showing a location, but
this is always definitely the same point.

I have compared the before and after parameter files and they are
identical. Splitting off the color data and using it to recolor an image
done in default colors works the same way, use it once. I have heard of one
time ciphers but never a one time color file. All I can think of is that
some obscure flag gets set, although I can't imagine it's purpose. Is there
some way to store an image of the actual running program? Anything I can
get my hands on is unchanged.

Along with the discussion of color accuracy I thought that this should get
tossed into the pot. The ` seems to be a perfectly acceptable symbol for
the color data.

Charles

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:29:36 -0400
From: Gedeon Peteri <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) Perhaps of interest...

MR CHARLES F CROCKER wrote:

> In Carr3402 I can only run the formula once without starting Fractint from
> scratch. Interrupting and restarting, zooming, or what have you, and you
> get Error(4) and Error(2).

I tried to resize the view window while the par was generating - always works -
and the same thing happened. Very nice images though.

Gedeon


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:00:21 -1000
From: "Shauna Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (fractint) textsafe makes things worse...

On 11 Apr 98 at 14:57, James R. McKenzie wrote:

> My vid card is a Phoenix Trio 32/64 with 2 meg of RAM, not expandable.
>
> my system is a 6x86 120Mhz (no MMX) w/ 16 meg EDO, and I run FRACTINT
> at SF7 (1024x768x256).

Well, we have a Diamond Stealth 64 Series 2000 with the
S3 Trio chip, on a P133 w/96MB EDO, run Fractint at SF7.
We use TEXTSAFE=save. It doesn't lock up, but the W95 and
the Fractint graphic screens corrupt each other.

Works fine under OS/2, so I suspect it's a W95 and/or
driver problem.

Another blast of bits from David
Visit our not-so-boring web page: http://www.aloha.net/~shauna/
Visit the Hawaii Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org/
For the best Hawaii & Pacific Basin surf forecast: mailto:[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:24:39 -0400
From: davides <[e-mail]>
Subject: (fractint) 'nother par

This par takes a few minutes to complete; I kind of like the colors in it
which are the reason for the somewhat pretentious title.




Royal_'brot        { ; Copyright David Shanholtzer, 1998
                     ; frm: bubbleboth_man (Kerry Mitchell)
                     ; color map: dav39
  reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm
  formulaname=bubbleboth_man passes=1
  center-mag=-0.746823/-5.55112e-015/0.800359/1.3015/-90
  params=16/0.4/0.9/0 float=y maxiter=500 inside=zmag decomp=256
  finattract=y
  colors=000<5>00000E<61>0cw0cw0bv<48>00EA20<10>yhW<22>A20K0K<30>l0lm0ml0l\
  <22>K0KMC7<6>yhW<14>A20000<18>000
  }

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