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exotica-digest        Saturday, March 31 2001        Volume 02 : Number 947



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) The Planets
Re: (exotica) a little request
Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object
Re: (exotica) a little request ----Turkey!!!
Re: (exotica) message to luxuria and its chatters
Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object
Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object
Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object
Re: (exotica) re: shanghainese pops (Jose Padilla)
(exotica) Horror themed liquer
(exotica) [obit] John Lewis
(exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!
Re: (exotica) Horror themed liquer
(exotica) Re: Chedder curds?
Re: (exotica) See this
Re: (exotica) See this
(exotica) "Bedlam" by THE CRAZY PEOPLE
Re: Re: (exotica) Up with People
Re: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?
Re: (exotica) oooops my mistake
Re: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!
Re: Re: (exotica) what does music do?
Re: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?
Re: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!
Re: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!
Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object
Re: (exotica) See this
Re: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?
(exotica) Mighty Absalom/Paddy Roberts
(exotica) poutine

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:27:13 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Planets

The Karajan version is very dramatic, yes...but Sir Adrian Boult's treatment
is the
most sumptuous and very near the way Holst intented himself. Holst conducted
the
Planets in the 1920s for British Columbia---twice--and the electric version
is of
course superior to the earlier acoustic 78s. EMI did produce a reissue of
Holst's
version on lp as well.
For Boult, the original Westmisnter LP version is spectacular in mono and
must
be a joy in  true stereo. The later re-make for Angel in the 1960s is still
the version
i listen to the most...a refinement by a close protege over years of playing
it.

pvc

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:11:49 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) a little request

> Also, someone from Turkey .......
> If that person belongs to the exotica
> list as I suspect, please contact me again.

and could this person please contact me also - especially if they live in the
Istanbul area?

I will be taking a vacation to Istanbul next month, so if anyone has any
information or suggestions on how to enhance the 'exotica' aspect of my
journey, please feel free to pass them my way.

Vern





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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:19:18 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object

In a message dated 3/30/1 4:15:40 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>>But I didn't want anyone thinking that, at
>> least according to me, the people in my film are any "weirder" than the
>> rest of us.

>Oh, but they are!!!  Maybe not all of them, but can you honestly tell me the
>guy who's listening to his entire record collection in alphabetical order is
>"normal"?

Well, yes and no. The immediate reaction is "how weird!" But look at your own
collection. Then make a decision to actually listen to each thing (which begs
the question, who among us listens to every track on every album we get?).
The guy may have decided to listen to each one because he felt he was
spending too much time on the consumption end and not enough on the
appreciative end....Anyway, OK, you've made the decision to finally listen to
the collection for real. How to go about it? Well, you already have them
filed alphabetically, or by genre, or however you file .I do it by genre, but
my soul LP collection also needs alphabetizing or I'd never be able to find
an LP quickly. I don't do each letter in order, but all the "A" groups are
under A. It may be an Ax group first and Acme second, but the A's are in one
area. In that case, it makes sense to listen alphabetically IF I decide to do
it......doesn't it?...JB/and that doesn't even count DJ's who buy more than
most consumers to play on their radio shows or at their gigs. For they listen
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:36:30 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a little request ----Turkey!!!

> I will be taking a vacation to Istanbul next month

If you have time, try to visit the region "Anatolia", =DCrg=FCp was a tow=
n=20
close to a fantastic place with something the turks called "fairy=20
chimneys". I have never seen such a surrealistic landscape. There was=20
also underground cities with up to 12 floors in them. Totally=20
incredible, I can send you some pictures if you like, if I can find=20
them. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!

Magnus


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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:01:41 -0500
From: "Domenic Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) message to luxuria and its chatters

>From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>

>This is a bit off topic.
>But last weekend for the first time, I chatted on luxuria.
>I ran into a couple of exotica listers there.
>It was cool.
>But the last few nights I just couldn't get it to work.
>I just wondered if the people here, like the Millionaire for instance,
>understand what's happening and whether there's anything I can do about it.
>

As far as I'm concerned this is not off topic. Hopefully the Mill will chime
in with some real information. He knows all about the tech problems. Noticed
last night especially it was hard to get in the chat room.

Luxuria is now part of something called "Clear Channel". I guess, during the
switch, they moved over to new servers?? And there have been problems. Just
keep trying to listen. They have encouraged us to comment on the technical
difficulties by emailing [e-mail]. I think they are passing
on the comments to Clear Channel. The buzz will help.

Sorry if i'm stepping on your toes Mill. But you know I'm a rabbid fan of
the Lux (am listening to it right now). The chat room is awesome. 'ol Jack
Diamond is in their a lot and I even met one of *my* listeners there since I
occasionally mention it on the air. So hopefully Luxuria is getting a lot of
hits from Northwest MA and Lower NH.

Go Luxuria.

Domenic Ciccone
"Martinis with Mancini" WJUL 91.5FM FridayÆs 6-9AM EST
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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:55:01 -0500
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object

At 03:56 PM 3/30/01 -0500, cheryl wrote:
> but can you honestly tell me the
>guy who's listening to his entire record collection in alphabetical order is
>"normal"?

I hope you won't be offended.  I think you will be.  I'm sorry.
I can honestly tell you that the guy you refer to, is no less normal than
you are.
In my opinion.
He has a wife, a kid and a good job.
What he did was absolutely logical.  He just showed a little more
commitment to that logic than most people would.
You wouldn't have done that.  On the other hand, it seems to me that you
and your spouse also demonstrate a strong focus and commitment to finding,
sharing, listening to, talking about, writing about... "records".

Everybody says "it's about the music" because the idea of simply collecting
is somehow embarrassing to them.

The best term for some of the people in my film is "ecstatically
marginalized".

If anyone wants to tell me they're slightly less marginalized, I'll accept
that.

AZ



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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:51:38 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object

> > but can you honestly tell me the
> >guy who's listening to his entire record collection in alphabetical order is
> >"normal"?

I'm one of those people who listens to their CDs in a somewhat unusual fashion.

I used to have my CDs arranged alphabetically by artist, but several years ago
the number of CDs overran the shelfspace, so now there's several rows of CDs
sitting on the floor in front of the shelf in haphazard fashion.

A while back I decided that I should listen to all of my CDs.  So I started with
one row and worked my way through one by one.  I just finished working my way
through all the floor rows, and now I'm starting on the actual shelves
themselves.  I'm going backwards though .... In the past few days I listened to
my Hank Williams singles collection, and a few by the Violent Femmes, and am now
listening to Ben Vaughn.  In a couple months, after I have listened to a certain
Tori Amos CD, I will have been able to say that I have listened to all my CDs.

This is very enjoyable for me.  I love rediscovering a great song on a CD that I
had completely forgotten about.  Before I started doing this, I would find myself
listening to a few favorite CDs over and over and over again.  I decided that
this wasn't much different than a Top 40 station playing the same song over and
over again, so I decided to listen music to the way I do now.  In a way, my
personal format is the equivalence of listening to a new radio station - one that
only plays only music that you already like and would consider purchasing,
without many repeats at all .... and best of all, no advertising or silly dj
banter.

I'm not locked into this alphabetical mode. If I absolutely must listen to a
certain song or CD, if I am especially sad one day and want to listen to a
certain Lou Reed song, then I will simply locate that CD and listen to it.  And
when its done, I resume back where I left off with my other cds.  Generally
though, I let things flow as they are without interuption.

The more I think of it, the more I can compare this alphabetical process with a
Zen 'take things as they come' approach.  In a way its training me for life.  One
never knows if the next day will be a happy day, or a hectic day, or a sad day --
but no matter what type of day it is, we work ourselves through it.  In the same
way, I never know what the next CD music style will be .... it might full of sad
songs, or a very upbeat CD.  And if its a happy CD, I know that it won't last
forever.  And if its a sad CD, I know that it won't last forever either.

We don't have the option of switching over on a whim to a different day if we
don't like the one we're currently living, and I'm not sure if I would want that
power.  I guess I do have the power to impose the type of music that I will be
listening to that day, but for now I choose not to use that option often.  One
can never be sure what genre of music will be next, but its nice to know that
there is some underlying order behind it all .... even if that order is as
simplistic as working one's way through the alphabet.

I should say that I listen to music mostly while driving. While at home I do
enjoy reading, and prefer a quiet background.  This means that I'm always
shuffling CDs to and from my car, which in a way is a form of ritual.

By the way, I also have a collection of 400-500 cassette tapes that  I had
home-recorded over the past 20 years.  Before I started working my way through my
CDs, I worked myself one by one through that entire cassette collection.  Part of
it was fun, rediscovering again music from long ago .... but it was also more
painful, because I forced my self to listen to genres of music that I had long
since discarded.  It was useful for me though .... when I heard how bad some of
my musical choices were way back then, I found myself being a bit more tolerant
of today's teenagers for listening to the music they choose to listen.

So if my listening methods make me something other than 'normal', so be it.  I've
learned to accept being considered not 'normal' as a badge of honor.

Now I wonder what will happen when I reach that final Tori Amos cd.  I look
around and see my very large LP collection.  It may be a good thing that they no
longer make LP players for automobiles.

Vern



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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:47:44 -0500
From: "cheryl" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object

Well, I did say it was all relative.  Maybe I'm just jealous that you never
included us in your film ;-)
I don't consider myself overly obsessive when it comes to music or
collecting, but that's in my eyes, I guess.  I don't think my parents would
agree with that, though...But we're definitely "less marginallized" than
some of the people in the film (I think...)

cheryl  (who keeps all music in alphabetical order, because I'd never be
able to find it otherwise, but listens to whatever I feel like, whenever I
feel like it)


From: "alan zweig" <[e-mail]>
>
> I hope you won't be offended.  I think you will be.  I'm sorry.
> I can honestly tell you that the guy you refer to, is no less normal than
> you are.
> In my opinion.
> He has a wife, a kid and a good job.
> What he did was absolutely logical.  He just showed a little more
> commitment to that logic than most people would.
> You wouldn't have done that.  On the other hand, it seems to me that you
> and your spouse also demonstrate a strong focus and commitment to finding,
> sharing, listening to, talking about, writing about... "records".




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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:56:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: shanghainese pops (Jose Padilla)

In a message dated 3/29/01 5:01:48 AM EST, [e-mail]
writes:

<< jose padilla. anyone know who he is?

 This has probably been answered, but just in case......


 He is a leading figure in Ibiza. I think he owns Cafe Del Mar and has been
 partly responsible for the musical direction on the island for 20 years or
 so. >>


actually Jose Padilla used to be a DJ at the Cafe Del Mar on the Baleric
Island of Ibiza - the big summer holiday party island that is favored by UK
clubbers. While most of the clubs on Ibiza play the typical house, techno and
other styles of music. Cafe Del Mar was the ultimate chill-out spot. Because
of it's situation directly on the beach, cpeople would go there for drinks as
the sun was setting and listen to Jose Padilla and other down tempo DJs spin
soundtrack music and downtempo grooves leading to more melodic deep house
music as the evening I imagine would go on. Jose Padilla has done several
tracks hiself peppered throughout the Cafe del Mar series of albums as well
as some remixes and a solo album released about three or four years ago. The
baton, as I hear, has pased onto Cafe Del Mar's competitor, Cafe Mambo, which
is where Jose Padilla now spins.

Ashley


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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:53:40 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Horror themed liquer

Drinking moldavian brandy just now (yup, it took me one whole week to
stay away from it), called "Count Dracula" (It warms my blood) and got
the idea that I should collect horror themed liquer. Do you have any
favorites? I know Iceland has a vodka called "black death". There must
be a lot more, I know I have seen horror themed Tequila, cant remember
the titles of them though.

I have tried to create the ultimate 'outer space comp' today, just like
I tried yesterday, and the day before that. It seems it is impossible
to find the right ending. "imagination" from Moon gas? "When my
dreamboat comes home"? Any other ideas? It has to be "good".

Magnus




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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:57:51 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] John Lewis

NEW YORK (AP) - John Lewis, a pianist who masterminded one of the most famous
ensembles in jazz, the Modern Jazz Quartet, died on Thursday. He was 80.

The M.J.Q., as the quartet was known, remained mostly unchanged from the
mid-1950's to the 90's.

It began recording in 1952 with Lewis, vibraphonist Milt Jackson, bassist Percy
Heath and drummer Kenny Clarke. When Clarke moved to Paris in 1955, Connie Kay
replaced him and the quartet continued until Kay's death in 1994.

Lewis contributed the bulk of the group's compositions and arrangements,
including ``Django'' and ``Two Degrees East, Three Degrees West,'' and he
insisted members wear tuxedos to dignify jazz as an art.

He was born in LaGrange, Ill., in 1920, and grew up in Albuquerque, N.M. His
entree to the jazz world came during World War II, when he met Kenny Clarke, an
established drummer in the nascent bebop movement.

At Clarke's urging, Lewis moved to New York after his discharge and eventually
replaced Thelonious Monk as Dizzy Gillespie's pianist. He also performed or
recorded with Charlie Parker, Lester Young and Ella Fitzgerald.

In 1952 he formed the M.J.Q. with Clarke, Jackson and Heath. The quartet was a
steady seller of records and concert tickets well into the 1970's.

Lewis also taught music at Harvard and the City College of New York, and in the
late 1950's helped found the Lenox School of Jazz in Massachusetts.





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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:33:38 -0600
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!

I am crawling out of my flu-induced haze to quit lurking and start
posting again.  Actually, I tried to post, but it was during the art
vs. craft discussion and I felt hopelessly stupid and inarticulate
and I would delete all my posts...strange...I'm still feeling
hopelessly stupid and inarticulate.
Here's my point.   AZ wrote:
**************

I have a bunch of easy listening and Now Sound records but I don't
think I have one that qualifies as exotica.

My question, and I'm sure this has come up before:  What is exotica,
exactly?  Is it strange and unusual music, is it easy listening, with
lounge thrown in?  Is it anything that is not mainstream?  And I've
heard
talk here about Surf music...is that like Jan and Dean and Beach Boy
stuff, or is it the stuff like the Venture's did?
I'm sure a lot of you are groaning and going, "Not this, again!"  So
just ignore...but I'm really curious, plus I'm having trouble
describing this to my friends, who think I'm a little on the edge
anyway.
Thanks.


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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:34:45 +0100
From: edjunkita <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Horror themed liquer

Magnus Sandberg wrote:

> Drinking moldavian brandy just now (yup, it took me one whole week to
> stay away from it), called "Count Dracula" (It warms my blood) and got
> the idea that I should collect horror themed liquer. Do you have any
> favorites? I know Iceland has a vodka called "black death". There must
> be a lot more, I know I have seen horror themed Tequila, cant remember
> the titles of them though.

The Black Death brand became quite popular so they started making cigaret=
tes
and other liquor (maybe tequila). I know beer & wine isn't strong enough =
for
you
vikings, but in Belgium there are a couple of microbreweries, usually run=
 by
monks,
that issue beer with a Satanic theme and is twice as strong as regular la=
ger
beer. Some company in Italy has a wine series with dictators. I have thei=
r
bottle
of F=FChrerwein with a picture of Adolf on it, there's also one with Muss=
olini.




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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:48:29 -0600
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?

French Fries topped with chedder curds and brown gravy....
What are chedder curds?


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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:38:50 -0600
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) See this

You gotta see this cover!

Roman Polanskis "Repulsion" on DVD:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005A1TC.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

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Hmmmmmm, that phote of Catherine Deneuve looks amazingly like his now
deceased wife, Sharon Tate.


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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:46:56 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) See this

citerar Colleen Pyles <[e-mail]>:

> Hmmmmmm, that phote of Catherine Deneuve looks amazingly like his now
> deceased wife, Sharon Tate.


I thought it was odd noone cared to comment this dvd cover. Until you
did Colleen. It was the laugh of the week for me. I think it is fake,
but Amazon still use the image so I dont know. You americans are so
very strange sometimes.

Magnus


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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:55:15 -0000
From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Bedlam" by THE CRAZY PEOPLE

Can anyone out there give me a brief idea of what "Bedlam" by THE CRAZY
PEOPLE is like, or how good an album they think it is? I see Jack Diamond's
offering a re-issue and my curiosity is piqued. But i'd like a second
opinion.
bad, so-so, fantastic?
thanks
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:15:21 -0600
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Up with People



Don't know much about up with people, other than the
gig I was lucky to have been forced to attend as a 6th
grader at Our Lady of Evening Joy.
                ************************

Ah yes, I remember the mandantory "assemblies" at school in
the '60's, when Up With People would perform.  I think this was to
quash our fondness for paisley bell-bottoms and the fuzzy fur vests
like Sonny Bono wore.    Publicly, I denounced them, as did my peers,
but privately, (I was into exotica, even then) I admired
their "spunk", and their ability to tour the country and do this.
And their costumes were so..."wholesome".



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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:14:00 -0600
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?

Colleen Pyles wrote:

> What are chedder curds?

Cheddar curds are little misshapen bits of young cheddar cheese (<60 days) that
are pulled out of the vats before they can age and be made into wheels or
blocks. When they're fresh, they squeak when you rub them between your fingers.

Here in Wisconsin we like to bread dem curds 'n deep fry 'em. Ja, dere hey. Dem
curds are mighty tasty, doncha know.

In my neck of the Northwoods, we call them "Heartattack in a Basket".

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Matt Marchese
"I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a
nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate)
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:25:14 -0600
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) oooops my mistake

Still, it's a very cool list and it almost makes me want to check out
the
band he was in.
                     **********************

It is a cool list, Alan.  He definately has some eclectic music
tastes.


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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:34:22 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!

Colleen, you may want to check out the exotica faq and the exotica archives of the past years; not that I couldn't answer it anymore, but some of the threads under subjects like "what is exotica?" were just too entertaining and brillant, to be possibly repeated. Just in short: The really close definiton of exotica is all about music by Martin Denny, Les Baxter and Arthur Lyman. Lounge and Surf stuff like the Ventures is only second-close.

for the FAQ try checking this site: http://tikiland.de

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:33:53 -0600
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) what does music do?

JB wrote:
Men, according to the Mrs., seek to quantify an otherwise
unquantifiable
experience called life by measuring, statistifying, and adding up the
innumerable factors to explain the otherwise inexplicable. Women, on
the
other hand, according to the Mrs., embrace the harmonic universality
of
Earthly Existence and disdain the numbers game...This my friends is
the
difference between the sexes (according to the Mrs.)..JB/its 1969 ok,
all
across the USA
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jb.... I think I like the Mrs.





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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:36:46 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?

Matt Marchese schrieb:

>
> Cheddar curds are little misshapen bits of young cheddar cheese (<60 days) that
> are pulled out of the vats before they can age and be made into wheels or
> blocks. When they're fresh, they squeak when you rub them between your fingers.
>
> Here in Wisconsin we like to bread dem curds 'n deep fry 'em.

The natives of Wisconsin eat funny prey.

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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 00:06:16 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!

speaking as a man, I would say exotica is a woman.
If I could I would marry exotica.
And I guess in a way I have.

Magnus



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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:21:23 +0100
From: edjunkita <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: What is exotica, anywqy!

Colleen Pyles wrote:

> My question, and I'm sure this has come up before:  What is exotica,
> exactly?  Is it strange and unusual music, is it easy listening, with
> lounge thrown in?  Is it anything that is not mainstream?

exotic,   igzot'ik, a. [L. exoticus, <Gr. exotikos, <exo-, outside, <ex, ek,
out of]
Of foreign origin or character; introduced from abroad, but not fully
naturalized or acclimatized; strikingly beautiful and unusual in
appearance; as, an exotic woman; mysterious; different; strange;
pertaining to stripteasing; as, an exotic dancer, -n, Anything exotic, as
a plant. (Webster's Dictionary)

In music, exotic means influenced by non-western music, like Ravel and Debussy

were. Debussy was influenced by Javanese gamelan music performed at the Paris
international exposition of 1889. These expositions were very popular in the
19th and early 20th century, mainly for countries like England & France to
show off the vastness their colonial empires. The performing dancers and
musicians from all over the world were gawked at like animals in a zoo, but
made a more creative impression on artists like Debussy, Ravel, Gaugin,
Artaud, etc.

Debussy and Ravel in their turn influenced Les Baxter's exotic easy listening
style
in the 50's. This was the era of hifi & stereo recording and the ever growing
influence
of the United States in so called thirld world countries. American G.I.'s
brought
back souvenirs from their tour of duty (tour of booty) in the Pacific, like
ukeleles,
tiki idols and maybe a shrunken head or two. Hawaii became the 50th US state
in 1959.
But it was also the stifling era of Eisenhower and McCarthyism, and people
needed
a break. But they couldn't just denounce their Christianity and their suburban
lifestyle
and become bohemians. What better way to escape than into the enchanting,
mysterious
and savage but safe world of exotica, with it's cocktails and ChaChas, Tiki
parties
and Hula dancing! Now everyone could be an adventurous armchair explorer, with
no
risks involved. All this boosted the Exotica craze to enormous heights.
Most well known Exotica musicians are Martin Denny & Arthur Lyman (Hawaii),
Xavier Cugat, Perez Prado & Yma Sumac (Latin America), Harry Belafonte
(Carribean).
A lot of Exotica musicians like Les Baxter never actually went to (let alone
came from)
these far away lands, but still managed to capture the flavour.

To get back to your question:  It was a sub genre of the Easy Listening genre,
it was
mainstream until the Beatles thoroughly stomped it out (although some elements
remained,
like the use of sitars in hippy music). Yes, it is strange and unusual.
Sometimes staightforwardly
so, but mostly it is an indirect strangeness, on a more subconscious, dreamy
level. The term
Lounge was never used as a music genre until the Easy Listening revival in the
early 9T's.
Some people use it for the Neo Easy Listening music only, others for any retro
style music,
some for all Easy Listening old and new, making it less and less usable as a
term.

(BTW,  you DID follow Lazlo Nibble's instructions to check out

http://www.studio-nibble.com/lists/exotica.html

when you joined this list, didn't you?...DIDN'T YOU??)

For all you exoticats out there, I HIGHLY recommend the book "Exotica,
fabricated
soundscapes in a real world" by musician and journalist David Toop. (1999
Serpent's
Tail) This entertaining book tied up a lotta loose exotica ends for me.
There's an
accompanying CD available on palm pictures/rykodisc which I never had a chance
to hear.
Anyone know it?

>  And I've heard talk here about Surf music...is that like Jan and Dean and
> Beach Boy
> stuff, or is it the stuff like the Venture's did?

I guess you could qualify them as Surf, but the TRUE Surf bands are more like
Dick Dale & the Deltones (remember Misirlou, the opening song of Pulp
Fiction?)
The Chantays (Pipeline), The Surfaris (Wipeout), The Trashmen (Surfin' Bird).
But there were tons of other bands out there, equally good or better. The
typical
Surf song is an instrumental (with maybe just a yell here and there). Jan &
Dean
and the Beach Boys helped to popularize (=water down) the genre with their
doo-wop
like falsetto vocals. Closely linked with the Surf genre is the Hot Rod genre,
with
many bands recording songs in both genres. Hot Rod bands were The Ripchords
(Little Cobra), The Hondells (Little Honda), Ronnie & the Daytonas (G.T.O.)
Among the best neo-surf bands are Man or Astroman? and The Phantom Surfers.

>  plus I'm having trouble describing this to my friends, who think I'm a
> little on the edge
> anyway.

sounds familiar, join the club :-)




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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:27:38 -0500
From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Music versus The Object

>At 03:56 PM 3/30/01 -0500, cheryl wrote:
>> but can you honestly tell me the
>>guy who's listening to his entire record collection in alphabetical order is
>>"normal"?


i actually thought about doing this,
with over 5000 records i do not know how long it would take but
it would help me log tracks and get rid of less than good stuff.

Abby Normal




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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:37:47 -0500
From: buMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) See this

>citerar Colleen Pyles <[e-mail]>:
>
>> Hmmmmmm, that phote of Catherine Deneuve looks amazingly like his now
>> deceased wife, Sharon Tate.
>
>
>I thought it was odd noone cared to comment this dvd cover. Until you
>did Colleen. It was the laugh of the week for me. I think it is fake,
>but Amazon still use the image so I dont know. You americans are so
>very strange sometimes.


well i was speechless, talk about lousy packaging.
lets put a picture on the cover that has nothing to do with the film,
since Cathy does not look too "healthy" in the movie cuz we wanna sell
using sex appeal only.
i wonder if they even watched it.
it is one of my favorite films so i was a bit horrorfied.

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:47:11 +0100
From: edjunkita <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Chedder curds?

Is that with or without the moldy bits?

Matt Marchese wrote:

> Colleen Pyles wrote:
>
> > What are chedder curds?
>
> Cheddar curds are little misshapen bits of young cheddar cheese (<60 days) that
> are pulled out of the vats before they can age and be made into wheels or
> blocks. When they're fresh, they squeak when you rub them between your fingers.
>
> Here in Wisconsin we like to bread dem curds 'n deep fry 'em. Ja, dere hey. Dem
> curds are mighty tasty, doncha know.
>
> In my neck of the Northwoods, we call them "Heartattack in a Basket".
>



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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:47:45 -0600
From: Matt Marchese <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mighty Absalom/Paddy Roberts

Hi Folks,

I  need some information on the following LPs:

Mighty Absalom: "Mighty Absalom Sings Bathroom Ballads"
Paddy Roberts: "Songs for Gay Dogs"

If anyone on the list has these albums and can provide me with a song
list from them, or better yet has some MP3's ripped that they'd be
willing to share with me, I'd be extremely grateful!

Thanks,

Matt




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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:56:53 -0700
From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) poutine

i know you folks from quebec will gasp at the gaucheness, but here in
western canada poutine is usually made with shredded mozzarella instead
of cheddar curds. laugh at my lamentably inauthentic revisionist tastes,
but i actually prefer mozzarella to curds because it's melty-er and
doesn't squeek when you chew it. i hope this doesn't start east/west tensions.

mike

> > What are chedder curds?
>
> Cheddar curds are little misshapen bits of young cheddar cheese (<60 days) that
> are pulled out of the vats before they can age and be made into wheels or
> blocks. When they're fresh, they squeak when you rub them between your fingers.
>
> Here in Wisconsin we like to bread dem curds 'n deep fry 'em. Ja, dere hey. Dem
> curds are mighty tasty, doncha know.
>
> In my neck of the Northwoods, we call them "Heartattack in a Basket".


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