Bravo edjunkita! I don't know about the rest of them but that was the best
explanation of "what is exotica" I've ever read.
Most of the musicians who took a shot at exotica, came from easy listening
big band "lounge". A lot of them also made cha cha records and soundtracks
and "light jazz". When I joined this list, it was because I knew that
people here knew about Enoch Light and Command records. In other words, I
already knew that they weren't limited to exotica in the strict sense that
edjunkita so ably outlined it.
In terms of this list, I took "exotica" to mean "Music played by people who
also played on exotica records".
But I never took the records I was focussed on - instrumental versions of
sixties rock songs, NOW Sound, Billy May doing "Going out of My Head", the
Ventures doing "Wooly Bully" - to be exotica.
Then again, there is some crossover. I love virtually any pop instrumental
that uses sitar or preferably electric sitar. I don't think this is a
perfect analogy. For instance, I don't think the Box Tops were trying to
add a touch of exotica when they used electric sitar on Cry Like a Baby. I
just think they liked the way it sounded. But I do think that the
proliferation of electric sitar has exotica overtones. All those Maharishi
jokes on Laugh-In were exotica-related.
I think a lot of my favorite lounge records were made in the same spirit of
exotica. I don't want to expand on that idea because it'll just rouse
Magnus from his alcohol-induced stupor and force him to tell us a story
about magic monkeys and how they slept with beautiful dark-skinned women
and begat Les Baxter.
Which could have happened I guess. But that doesn't make me like exotica
any more than I already do. Or monkeys. Or women.
AZ
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:28:44 -0500
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) poutine
At 04:56 PM 3/31/01 -0700, kendoll wrote:
>
>. laugh at my lamentably inauthentic revisionist tastes,
I don't know about lamentably or inauthentic but after seeing those
pictures of your home, I don't need to hear about mozeralla for the word
"revisionist" to come to mind. I'm still wondering if that was the most
brilliant piece of satire I've ever seen. Somehow I don't think so.
I was also a little jealous.
I started to think about the TV series I could create knowing that the sets
are already built. Some kind of cross between "77 Sunset Strip" and "The
Brady Bunch".
Enjoy your curds and weigh too while you're at it.
(wey? way? wee?)
AZ
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:48:55 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) re: jose padilla
> << jose padilla. anyone know who he is?
>
> This has probably been answered, but just in case......
>
>
> He is a leading figure in Ibiza. I think he owns Cafe Del Mar and has
been
> partly responsible for the musical direction on the island for 20 years
or
> so. >>
>
>
> actually Jose Padilla used to be a DJ at the Cafe Del Mar on the Baleric
> Island of Ibiza - the big summer holiday party island that is favored by
UK
> clubbers. While most of the clubs on Ibiza play the typical house, techno
and
> other styles of music. Cafe Del Mar was the ultimate chill-out spot.
Because
> of it's situation directly on the beach, cpeople would go there for drinks
as
> the sun was setting and listen to Jose Padilla and other down tempo DJs
spin
> soundtrack music and downtempo grooves leading to more melodic deep house
> music as the evening I imagine would go on. Jose Padilla has done several
> tracks hiself peppered throughout the Cafe del Mar series of albums as
well
> as some remixes and a solo album released about three or four years ago.
The
> baton, as I hear, has pased onto Cafe Del Mar's competitor, Cafe Mambo,
which
> is where Jose Padilla now spins.
>
thanks for the answer but i am wondering if this is the same jose
padilla? the one i was asking about or rather the track is from 1960. the
track i believe is really called "la violetera". not that someone in their
60s can't be a downtempo d.j. but just wondering if it is the same one or a
someone else with the same name?
william in taipei.
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:10:07 +0800
From: "William" <king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw>
Subject: (exotica) ukelele
>. American G.I.'s
>brought
>back souvenirs from their tour of duty (tour of booty) in the Pacific, like
>ukeleles,
this is a question i have been wondering for awhile, how does the
yukelele fit into exotica? i mean did it really become popular after WW II
or was it just re-popularlized by that? the reason i ask is i have this dvd
for some old silent film called "the crowd" i haven't checked what year it
was made but it seems to be from the 20s or 30s and in that film the star
often plays a yukelele. so was its popularity a resurgence or genuinely new
after WWII?
willliam in taipei.
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:02:48 +0100
From: "Paul Hodge" <paul.hodge@virgin.net>
Subject: (exotica) Luxuria
Has anyone read the excellent Luxuria article on 'Qui etes vous, Polly
Maggoo?'
Sounds one hell of a groovy movie
Anyone seen it? Does anyone know where I could get a PAL copy?
Thanks
Paul
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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:21:48 -0500
From: clayton black <clayton.black@washcoll.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) poutine
> From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:28:44 -0500
> To: kendoll@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, exotica <exotica@xmission.com>
> Subject: Re: (exotica) poutine
>
> Enjoy your curds and weigh too while you're at it.
>
> (wey? way? wee?)
I believe it's "whey"
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:36:28 -0400
From: "m.ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ukulele
>this is a question i have been wondering for awhile, how does the
>yukelele fit into exotica? i mean did it really become popular after WW II
>or was it just re-popularlized by that? the reason i ask is i have this dvd
>for some old silent film called "the crowd" i haven't checked what year it
>was made but it seems to be from the 20s or 30s and in that film the star
>often plays a yukelele. so was its popularity a resurgence or genuinely new
>after WWII?
The ukulele's real breakthrough into "the mainland" occurred in 1915 at
Panama-Pacific Exposition in San Francisco. There was an intense
ukulele/Hawaiian music fad that lasted for many years. The 50s wave an echo
of the original.
Decent historical summary here:
http://64.33.34.112/.WWW/ukehist.html
m.ace mace@ookworld.com
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:44:50 -0400
From: "m.ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ukulele
>Decent historical summary here:
>http://64.33.34.112/.WWW/ukehist.html
A more detailed history here:
http://www.geocities.com/~ukulele/history.html
http://www.geocities.com/~ukulele/history2.html
- --m.ace
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 18:09:01 +0100
From: edjunkita <edjunkita@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ukelele & jazz
I guess that would be a resurgence. George Formby springs to mind,
the actor, singer and ukelele player who performed songs like
"I'm the husband of the wife of Mr. Wu".
Of course postwar Exotica didn't evolve out of nothing. One could
argue that Jazz in itself is exotic. You can't talk about Exotica
without mentioning Duke Ellington with his Jungle Band. And
Josephine Baker and her "Le Revue Negre" in Paris, 1925.
But that goes back to the question wether Jazz musicians
going back to their roots should be considered exotic or not.
There always seems to be an element of (self)exploitation
involved. I assume that when Josephine Baker was dancing in her
banana skirt, she was parodying the image that whiteys had of
black culture.
William wrote:
> >. American G.I.'s
> >brought
> >back souvenirs from their tour of duty (tour of booty) in the Pacific, like
> >ukeleles,
>
> this is a question i have been wondering for awhile, how does the
> yukelele fit into exotica? i mean did it really become popular after WW II
> or was it just re-popularlized by that? the reason i ask is i have this dvd
> for some old silent film called "the crowd" i haven't checked what year it
> was made but it seems to be from the 20s or 30s and in that film the star
> often plays a yukelele. so was its popularity a resurgence or genuinely new
> after WWII?
>
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:05:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: delicado@cheerful.com
Subject: (exotica) Listening to ALL your music
>i actually thought about doing this, with over 5000 >records i do not know how long it would take but
it would help me log tracks and get rid of less than good stuff.
One lazy but still partly effective way to do this with CDs is to buy a CD player which will hold tons of CDs.
It took me some time to warm up to the idea, but a couple of years ago I bought a pioneer CD player which holds 101 CDs, 100 of which I often simply listen to on random play, track by track.
I keep a list of what discs are in there. It embarrasses me to say it, but I've discovered a lot of great stuff in my own collection this way which I might never have paid attention to before.
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 19:18:47 +0100
From: edjunkita <edjunkita@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Listening to ALL your music
wow! I want one. how much did it cost?
delicado@cheerful.com wrote:
>
> One lazy but still partly effective way to do this with CDs is to buy a CD player which will hold tons of CDs.
>
> It took me some time to warm up to the idea, but a couple of years ago I bought a pioneer CD player which holds 101 CDs, 100 of which I often simply listen to on random play, track by track.
>
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:20:41 EDT
From: Ashleywarren1@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: jose padilla
In a message dated 4/1/01 0:01:35 AM EST, king8egg@ms60.url.com.tw writes:
<< thanks for the answer but i am wondering if this is the same jose
padilla? the one i was asking about or rather the track is from 1960. the
track i believe is really called "la violetera". not that someone in their
60s can't be a downtempo d.j. but just wondering if it is the same one or a
someone else with the same name? >>
Definitely someone with the same name...both Jose and Padilla are very common
Spanish names.
Ashley
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:21:26 -0500
From: buMp <bump@defectiverecords.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Luxuria
no i have not seen it
but i just read Bro Cleves article about it yesterday and i must say he
thoroughly wet my appetite.
in fact, i am drooling.
if you find a copy, i can transfer it to PAL for you!!! hint hint
groovily yours
bump
>Has anyone read the excellent Luxuria article on 'Qui etes vous, Polly
>Maggoo?'
>
>Sounds one hell of a groovy movie
>
>Anyone seen it? Does anyone know where I could get a PAL copy?
