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exotica-digest       Saturday, January 23 1999       Volume 02 : Number 298



In This Digest:

(exotica) And Now A Word From Our Sponsers
(exotica) KFJC NEW ON-LINE SOFTWARE
(exotica) Overseas mailing and CD cases...
Re: (exotica) My Story, My Search
Re: (exotica) Tape exchange...why send the cassette body?
Re: (exotica) Casino Royale LP
Re: (exotica) Overseas mailing and CD cases...
(exotica) Nymphomania!
Re: (exotica) pipkins ???
Re: (exotica) My Story, My Search
Re: (exotica) Nymphomania!
Re: (exotica) Casino Royale LP
(exotica) Boil Esque
RE: (exotica) I ain't drunk - I'm just DRINKIN'
(exotica) Nymphomania!
Re: (exotica) EBAY
Re: (exotica) Overseas mailing and cassettes...
(exotica) A&M&R&I&P
[none]
Re: (exotica) I ain't drunk - I'm just DRINKIN'
(exotica) Re: EBAY
Re: (exotica) I ain't drunk - I'm just DRINKIN'
(exotica) Mindexpanders-What's Happening!
(exotica) Ooga Booga, Baby
Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)
Re:  (exotica) Re: EBAY
Re:  Re: (exotica) EBAY
Re: (exotica) Hiow did you get into Exotica?
Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)
(exotica) I didn't get sucked into Ebay.... well, almost
Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)
(exotica) dimitri of lexus
(exotica) Dr. Samuel J. Hoffman and the Theremin
(exotica) Mystic Moods
(exotica) The Eliminators question/s
Re: (exotica) EBAY
Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:32:22 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) And Now A Word From Our Sponsers

Marco

Sorry I took so long getting back to you.  This is the British version
of "The Comercials" on Tee Vee Toon records.   There is only one
commercial that is the same.  They were posted on the list some time
back.  There are 2 vols and both are great though not as good as "The
Commercials"   I personally think commercials are the coolest.

I got my copies from TCL Imports, who really can get lots of obscure
cds.  Their number is 1-800  728 2614 or try
http://home.navisoft.com/tclimports

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
>
> ---"Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek"  wrote:
> >
> > > What would a game show be like without a few classic
commercials?  I
> > > suggest "The Commercials" on Tee Vee Tons and The two British
> entries
> > > "And Now A Word From Our Sponsers" Vol 1 & 2.
> >
> > I've never heard about these Britsh records. More info, anyone?

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:18:07 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) KFJC NEW ON-LINE SOFTWARE

Dudes and dude-ettes!

KFJC-FM has new and much improved software for your on-line listening
pleasures:-)  MP3!

Check it out...NOW!

http://www.kfjc.org/signal.html

Maybe we will "see " each other Sunday, starting at 10AM PST

Rock on

Jack


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:17:16 EST
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Overseas mailing and CD cases...

Moritz writes:

> As oversea mail prices are getting higher and higher, I recommend to
> send tapes without their bodies; I'm not talking of the box, but the
> "cassette itself" without the tape in it.
Asolutely but there is even a better reason as a cassette with case
(unless it's one of those ultra-slim cases) exceeds the thicknesss limit (at
least in Canada) that would allow it to go as an oversized letter vs. a
small packet at over twice the mailing cost.  Just use one of those
padded envelopes which cost some $0.39 as the postal clerk will scream
at you for putting a tape in a regular envelope.   CD cases don't have the
same problem with thickness but the weight is a consideration.  An empty
jewel case cost all of $0.50 here and probably three times that in postage to
send it overseas.  Plus the disc holder teeth in those ^%#*!? clear insert
models ALWAYS arrives broken anyway!  Wish someone would come up with
a better material for these inserts since more and more CDs are printed
on the inside as well.  I always end up replacing the broken ones with black, white
or grey inserts.  Reason I can't find clear ones as replacements is
likely because they're so prone to breakage.  Do I sense a catch 22 happening here...

Brian Karasick
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:19:58 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) My Story, My Search

Ooooooooooooh:-(  I almost cried over that 1

WOTTA GREAT STORY AND A GREAT STORY TELLER!
Somebuddy send that girl a tape!

XO
Jack


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:33:24 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tape exchange...why send the cassette body?

Just be sure to lock the tape hubs somehow, so the tape doesn't get all
loosened up in transit.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:36:39 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Casino Royale LP

>One kvetch about the original and I guess the reissue, too.  They left out
>the vocal version of the theme that was played at the end of the movie.  I
>may never know, but who was the singer?

My wishful guess is that it was Peter Sellers. Has it possibly emerged on
one of his LPs or CDs?

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:37:41 +0100
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Overseas mailing and CD cases...

Brian Karasick wrote:

> a cassette with case exceeds the thicknesss limit (at least in Canada) that would
> allow it to go as an oversized letter vs. a small packet at over twice the mailing
> cost. (...)

I hope I made my point clear: I am talking about turning out those 5 lil' screws,
opening the cassette, taking out the tape and its attached empty reel counterpart and
sending just that in a thight envelope....
Mo




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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:27:36 -0500
From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nymphomania!

Has anybody gotten these two cd comps?

Saw these on Other Music's site - sounds interesting......

Do tell!

- - Nate


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:59:52 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) pipkins ???

Brian Phillips wrote:
>
> If it was "Gimme Dat Ding", as in:
>
> "Gimme dat ding,
> Gimme dat, gimme, gimme dat
> Gimme, gimme, gimme dat ding"
>
> I thought I heard this as the theme to the Goldiggers with Dean Martin.  I
> remember seeing a bunch of women dancing about shaking their heads to and
> fro.  At six years old, though, I was waiting for the Marty Feldman comedy
> bits to show up.


And if, indeed, it's that "Gimme Dat Ding", it has been playing
regularly on Ally McBeal, of all places!

cheryl


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:05:02 -0000
From: "Robert Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) My Story, My Search

Annette wrote:

> But for now, all I really want is Exotic Moog.

What a story!

Anyway, Exotic Moog was booted on CD a couple of years
back (alongwith Les Baxter's "Moog Rock") which you might
still be able to find.

Whether you're seeking that or the original LP you should try
a site like GEMM at http://www.gemm.com/

Good luck.


Robbie


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:03:32 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Nymphomania!

Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Has anybody gotten these two cd comps?
>
> Saw these on Other Music's site - sounds interesting......

I have this one (or at least the first one - are there two?), and it's
highly recommended.  Cheesy 60's porno soundtracks, and you can't go
wrong for the price.  Along the lines of "Beat At Cinecitta".

cheryl


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:29:44 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Casino Royale LP

>My wishful guess is that it was Peter Sellers. Has it possibly emerged on
>one of his LPs or CDs?

Well, from what I understand, this is a good time to be a Sellers fan, as
there is a boxed set of everything he recorded (with the exception of live
radio shows), but I don't know if that shows  up on anything.  I would like
to say it doesn't sound like him, but there were few people that he
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:49:34 -0500
From: "Ray Coffey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boil Esque

 Hot cha chaah!

 Las Vegas Grind fans and others may enjoy this online photo exhibit of
Raoul Gradvohl's work:

 http://www.cmp.ucr.edu/site/exhibitions/gradvohl/

 It ain't jess dancin' goils... he's got dem comical fellas too, ya know.
 But the goils are what draws the crowd.
 Goodness gracious!  A scary crib shot...  yikes!
 It was at the California Museum of Photgraphy in Riverside California, but
it's not hanging anymore.

 Hope this ain't yesterday's news...

 Ray




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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:53:15 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) I ain't drunk - I'm just DRINKIN'

> I normally drink gimlets , but with your disdain for Rose's....
>=20
Ahh, that's me being unclear again. Roses has a very specific =
application - certain drinks call for it, but unfortunately it happens =
all too often bartenders use Roses when the recipe calls for FRESH lime =
juice. BLEAH!

My "Safety" drink is either a Gin and Tonic or a Whiskey Sour (even =
though, I am sure to get that nasty sweetnsour stuff) I will often slurp =
off the first inch or two of drink and then ask for a top-off of whiskey =
to get the proportions to a tolerable level, making a mental note to =
make sure I take my insulin later to counterbalance all the cheap =
corn-derived sweetener.

My regular bar (a DIVE, but nearby) understands my standing instructions =
of=20
"Whiiiiiiiiiskkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeey sour" (pantomimed to convey the =
proper ratio of much whiskey to little sour.)

They hate me there.

Ron



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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:00:01 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nymphomania!

> Nathan Miner wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody gotten these two cd comps?
> >
> > Saw these on Other Music's site - sounds interesting......
>
Both comps are wild now sound.  I'm not sure which one I prefer.
Cheryl is right, you can't beat the price.  I'm sure they won't be for
sale for long so I'd get them both.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:16:51 +0000
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) EBAY

Mo wrote:
>...that this relatively small group would
>drive up the prices by competing with each other.
>The point is that you can't really do much about it, as the
>bidding is anonymous.
This is not the case!  When you sign up with eBay, you have a
unique name (e.g. tikiface) with which you make bids, but you
also have to advise your email address.  Anyone who is
registered with eBay, can request the email address of any
bidder, and each item auctioned has a bid history.
The seller can put a reserve price in, and need not sell if the
reserve is not met.

Each user name is assigned a rating, starting at zero.  On
completion of a transaction, both the buyer and seller can
give each other feedback: positive feedback increments
a rating, negative decrements a rating.  Neutral has no
effect on rating, but the fact that it isn't positive may be
telling.  People (thankfully few) with a significant negative
rating are usually kicked out, and those with a good
positive ratings benefit from the trust it generates.

eBay also has a rolling 'wanted' page.  It is worth looking at
to see the sheer diversity of things that people collect, or
want to buy.  It works, too!  I put in a want ad for a
Longines Symphonette set I was after, and next day had
an offer of a mint set for $15, which I snapped up!

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:55:01 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Overseas mailing and cassettes...

>I hope I made my point clear: I am talking about turning out those 5 lil'
screws,
>opening the cassette, taking out the tape and its attached empty reel
counterpart and
>sending just that in a thight envelope....
>Mo

Huh?!? Now that *is* living dangerously. I think you might be lucky not to
wind up with an envelope full of loose tape. Also, while some brands of
cassette may be possible to dis- and re- assemble, some brands can't be
opened up without destruction. Interesting idea, but a little dodgy.

How much do MiniDiscs weigh in comparison to cassettes?

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:57:37 -0800
From: Eb <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A&M&R&I&P

I'm surprised that no one (not even Lou Smith?) is posting eulogies for A&M
Records, which was officially closed down yesterday. Whole lotta good music
on that label...I think I own more albums on A&M than on any other label
except Columbia, Capitol, Elektra, Warner Brothers and Virgin (and it's
impossible to imagine any of those labels closing...well, maybe Virgin).
And I don't even have a lot of the old exotica-type stuff on A&M (Mendes,
Montez, Bacharach, Jobim, Baja Marimba Band, etc. etc.) which others of you
must own and cherish.

So here's my quick nod to Herb Alpert, Procol Harum, Claudine Longet, The
Merry-Go-Round, Tyrannosaurus Rex, Joe Cocker, Fairport Convention, Cat
Stevens, The Move, Emitt Rhodes, The Police, Squeeze, The Feelies, Andy
Summers & Robert Fripp, The Blue Nile, Suzanne Vega, Chris Stamey, Robyn
Hitchcock & The Egyptians, Soul Asylum, Phil Ochs, Kitchens of Distinction,
The Dickies, Cecil Taylor, Swervedriver, Soundgarden....

Heck, even A&M headquarters was sorta "exotica" in a way -- it was Charlie
Chaplin's old studio.

There's a neat nostalgic website devoted to A&M. I forget the URL at the
moment, but it's called "Rudy's A&M Corner." I'll have to go check out the
message board there sometime soon.

Eb




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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:52:04 -0500
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

A list friend wrote this to me today, and it goes with a theory I have that
begs to be disproven:
" D'you want a copy of Mundell Lowe's _Guitar Player_ on Dobro Records,
methinks?  1976 or so.  It's just gathering dust (well, the outermost inch
of the top
edge of the sleeve is)."

My theory is:  tread carefully when considering buying a jazz record where
the aged players have what I  affectionately dub "The Shelley Manne
Beatle-do"...Ever noticed in the 1970s, all these jazz guys, for whom STYLE
was so once important, looked really goofy, like "trying to be hip with the
kids"(musta been from playing all that now-sound ;)?...In the 1970s,
Mundell had the Shelley-Manne-Beatle-do....Gerry Mulligan just looked like
Greg Allman.

Jane Fondle


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:05:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) I ain't drunk - I'm just DRINKIN'

In a message dated 1/21/99 8:22:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I don't agree with shaking a martini, although I
 understand the the theory. The problem is that the drink sits in the shaker
 much too long and the ice is to small so you get a watery drink, or even
 worse, unsightly specks of ice floating on top of a murky drink. >>

Big cubes of ice (not crushed or shaved), chilled gin or vodka too if you
like, shake vigorously and briefly, pour.

I actually find a little fragment or two of ice in the martini as exciting.

I personally feel that you cannot "bruise" gin (or vodka) by shaking it.  Lets
face it, both are the lest refined, non-flavorful, primitive distilled spirits
there is.

Robert


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:37:51 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Craig Carlson)
Subject: (exotica) Re: EBAY

I've gotten a few items from Ebay (not records, though). The reason you can
trust the dealer and/or seller is because of the Feedback. If you've got
negative feedback, you're Ebay career is pretty much iced, at least for a
while. I always fill out the feedback form after a deal; it's a courtesy
thing. As far as prices go, I bid a little less than I would spend at a
collector's show for the item. I get lucky about 10-20% of the time.

As far as collecting jpeg's goes, I've added another hard drive to my PC
just to handle the neat Ebay images.

Craig

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:03:48 -0800
From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I ain't drunk - I'm just DRINKIN'

>Big cubes of ice (not crushed or shaved), chilled gin or vodka too if you
>like, shake vigorously and briefly, pour.

This isn't the worst way but again, it's not the way 99% of the new bars are
doing it.

>I actually find a little fragment or two of ice in the martini as exciting.


Sorry, you lost me here. The ice and water makes me neauseous.

>I personally feel that you cannot "bruise" gin (or vodka) by shaking it.

All you have to look at it and it's murky. It does settle after a few
minutes (giving it ample time to warm), but it's bruised.

>Lets
>face it, both are the lest refined, non-flavorful, primitive distilled
spirits
>there is.


I respectfully suggest that the martini is not your drink. Vodka is
flavorless, especially when added to gin, but it's not an ingredient in a
martini, much like the most of the current Swing revival isn't Swing at all.
Gin is packed with flavor and each brand has a different flavor.

I hope this isn't coming off as bitchy because that's not the spirit I
intended. I just see standards slipping everywhere and the martini was doing
just fine in real bars and among real drinkers until the Lounge scene
decided it was a fun word to say.




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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:15:41 -0800
From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mindexpanders-What's Happening!

On E-Bay Now;

The Mindexpanders-What's Happening (Stereo, Dot, DLP 25773)

THE MOTHERLOAD of all Exotica Psychedelic LP's.  NO SHIT!
This 1 will not come around for a long looooooooooooooog ass time.

Same label as Pat Boone.  Lord have mercy on my soul!

Totally awesome and AB-SO-LUTE-LY incredible
Electronic Psychedelic Exotica,
LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYWHERE, GUARANTEED!

With Chinese Bell Trees, Ondioline, Chromatic Boo Bams, Bongos,

Fuzzed Electric Guitars with Squawk Boxes, The Panther Combo Organ,

The Hohner Melodica, Harpsichord, Drums, Fender Bass, Autoharp and

Triangle! All instrumental Titles;  Love Syndrome, Theme From,

Pictures At A Psychedelic Art Exhibition, Cul De Sac, Downtown Trip,

Pulsation, A Night On Bald Mountain, Sensory Overload, Euphoria,

Mandala.  Produced by Charles Grean who BTW is the same guy

who produced "Leonard Nimoy Present's Mr. Spock's Music

From Outer Space".  Same label and just a few numbers down

the catalog line  from Mr. Spocks LP.  Imagine those instrumentals,

done up right, with all of these incredible electronic instruments and
bif\g time exotica stuff goin' on.
IT'S JUST ABOUT  A ZILLION TIME'S BETTER!
ROCK ON!!!

10 Freakin' Stars!

$15.00 Min Bid

See it here;  http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames/Mindexpanders.JPG

Just posted, so it may not be up yet, keep checking back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=59420231

Thanks!
Jack





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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:15:59 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ooga Booga, Baby

A friend of your's, possibly ?

http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames/taboo2.jpg

Blast off already!

http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames/Fantastica.JPG

Jack




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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:38:40 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)

I bid on a few items on ebay and I thought it was really cool because you can
just set your maximum bid and then ebay bids for you only upping your bid as
necessary to keep you on top

Well I found out that this doesn't work for several reasons
two that I know of are this

Other bidders don't set the MAXIMUM that they would really pay for an item.
Instead they put in multiple bids upping their bid each time someone else gets
on top OR worse yet (there is a time limit) they wait til the last few minutes
and then place a high bid to try to out sneak other bidders (and thereby
becoming slaves to their computer screens)

this is not what I would consider to be "collecting" or "finding"

other indescrepencies that occur on ebay are
sellers intentionally misrepresenting items as vintage or rare by not stating
their origin

and sellers bidding on their own items in order to up the price

ALSO
the seller can pull his/her item if it does not meet the set limit (set by the
seller and sometimes and outrageous amount)

I won the bid on a two item set from a seller from Hawaii but he refused sale
because it did not meet his set minimum. Then he emailed me and offered me ONE
of the two items for sale at a price that was 20% higher than what I had won
at!!
20% more money for half the items!?! I didn't bother to reply to the asshole
and have never bid since

also I asked the price of a tiki mug at a antique expo recently and the price
was $22. When I told the lady that was way too much because I had bought the
very same mug two weeks prior at the local swap meet for $12. She said, "Well
I just sold one of those last week on ebay for $40."

so the people that buy on ebay are destroying the market prices for EVERYONE
in the nation not just themselves!

Moritz wrote
>Oh, ...I DID start to collect pics of these items! I see myself as a *JPEG-
collector* now! Any Exotica anybody?

now that's the attitude!!


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:55:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: EBAY

>I've gotten a few items from Ebay (not records, though). The reason you can
trust the dealer and/or seller is because of the Feedback. If you've got
negative feedback, you're Ebay career is pretty much iced, at least for a
while. I always fill out the feedback form after a deal

this is pretty much ballyhoo for two reasons

I have first hand eveidence that SELLERS solicit those feedback replys because
as a buyer if you see a high number that means that the seller has a lot of
response (ie is a good guy) which is not so if the responses were solicited
rather than volunteered - ie if a seller says to you that he'd like you to
write a good review for him BEFORE you get the item then it benfits you to do
it in order to ensure that you get said item in a timely fashion

also
since I also have firsthand evidence that dealers log on under different names
it is not too much of a stretch to imagine that they could send good reviews
to themselves

it is a popularity contest of which the contestants have a hand in

for ex. do you think that your high school prom king and queen are the coolest
people and you'd like to hang out with them or at least do business with them
(ie give them your money)


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:56:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) EBAY

>Anyone who is registered with eBay, can request the email address of any
bidder, and each item auctioned has a bid history.

correct, that's why some of the seller actually have different EMAIL accounts


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:48:57 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hiow did you get into Exotica?

1981
Brian Wilson mentioning Martin Denny in a interview
concerning the Pet Sounds Lp.


Paul M.






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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:51:21 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)

In a message dated 99-01-23 00:40:12 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< also I asked the price of a tiki mug at a antique expo recently and the
price
 was $22. When I told the lady that was way too much because I had bought the
 very same mug two weeks prior at the local swap meet for $12. She said, "Well
 I just sold one of those last week on ebay for $40."

 so the people that buy on ebay are destroying the market prices for EVERYONE
 in the nation not just themselves! >>

Otto:

I was just talking to Robert last week about this.  I just got on Ebay a few
weeks ago and of course got lured into the "tiki" section.  I bid on a couple
of items and couldn't believe my eyes as people are just crazy and will pay
ridiculous prices for something that amounts to only a flyer of the tiki room
from Disneyland.  That little flyer went up to almost $90!  In addition, I
also happened to notice as far as the mugs go, there appears to be a guy who I
remember was winning/the high bidder for about a week or two.  Then one day I
went on and he had just posted for sale about 10 mugs.  One of his mugs was
coincidentally the same mug another seller was selling on the Ebay site at the
same time and that auction had gone on for a few days and the price was up to
$20.  This guy, he priced the same mug to start at like $20.  And all the
other mugs he was selling he wanted really unreasonable minimum starting bids.
I thought, what a lot of nerve he has!  Here he is, buying all the mugs 2
weeks ago, then turning around and tryiing to rip everyone off.  I just hope
the people on Ebay are "smart enough" to see thru this roose - but then again
these are the same people that are "dumb enough" to be bidding up mugs and
things way over their reasonable market value.

- - Michele


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:01:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) I didn't get sucked into Ebay.... well, almost

In a message dated 99-01-23 00:40:12 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I won the bid on a two item set from a seller from Hawaii but he refused
sale
 because it did not meet his set minimum. Then he emailed me and offered me
ONE
 of the two items for sale at a price that was 20% higher than what I had won
 at!!   20% more money for half the items!?! I didn't bother to reply to the
asshole
 and have never bid since>>

Now why don't they post the reserve or isn't the reserve just the same as a
"minimum bid"  I can understand that it is not worth their while to sell
something if the price was too low... but it isn't fare for them to keep the
reserve a secret.  What is the point of keeping it secret?

<<also I asked the price of a tiki mug at a antique expo recently and the
price
 was $22. When I told the lady that was way too much because I had bought the
 very same mug two weeks prior at the local swap meet for $12. She said, "Well
 I just sold one of those last week on ebay for $40." >>

Yeah, well Otto, this just proves the point - it is far better to get out
there to the swap meets and antique malls than it is to sit around you
computer staring at your Ebay bid items and hoping you aren't out-bid... I
really got sucked into that the first few days on Ebay and found I was on Ebay
like 4 hours a day monitoring my bids!  Luckily, I wised up - that's not to
say I won't be ever bidding again, just thinking carefully and not trying to
let ego empty my pocketbook!

- - Michele


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:14:05 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)

> so the people that buy on ebay are destroying the market
> prices for EVERYONE in the nation not just themselves! >>

==============================

i don't look at it quite that way.   ebay prices for an item, relate to the
ebay universe.  that universe is not necessarily the real world valuation
for a given item.

ebay is "its own" universe in the sense that one can "search" through
a virtual garage sale of millions of items at one time.  sometimes turning
up the exact item for which you've been keeping your eye out.

in my mind, that time-saving efficient benefit is a value worth (on occassion)
an additional premimum beyond an items "nominal" value where you
to scrounge all over the suburb garage sales to find it (maybe, eventually)
or troop around to second hand shops.

the message is here;  if some shop keeper cites the EBAY winning bid for
an item as its value.... tell 'em "bean dip" !

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:03:16 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) dimitri of lexus

well maybe not lexus, but i heard a modified version of dimitri from paris'
"stylish girl" tune on a car commercial.  i think it said "i'm a very
stylish car"...?

few months ago i saw a soda commercial using tipsy.

maybe this has been covered already.

kevin




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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:19:15 +0100
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dr. Samuel J. Hoffman and the Theremin

Thanks to the ever-friendly Jeroen at Basta Audio/Visuals, I received my
copy of the new Theremin-box this morning. My first impression:
beautiful set!
The 3 albums 'Music out of the moon', 'Perfume set to music' and 'Music
for peace of mind' are inserted in a litte cardboard box. Each cd in a
reproduction of the original sleeve. A 28-page booklet with extra
information and illustrations is added to the set.
as it says on the back of the box: an essential Basta reissue!

Marco

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:03:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mystic Moods

I read somewhere that there are two albums by the Mystic Moods, Emotions and
Extensions, which feature Paul Beaver on Moog.  I have never heard anyone on
the list mention the Mystic Moods.  I see their albums frequently for $1 or
so, but it never occurred to me to buy one.  Is some of their material
actually worth a dollar or should I continue to ignore the Mystic Moods?  Any
advice on this subject would be appreciated.

Sean


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:58:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Eliminators question/s

I found a great song called "Staccato" by a group called The Eliminators. I
was wondering what albums they put out and if the were out on any American
labels.  The song I have is on a Sequel comp album called "The Easy Project".
The liner notes (which are rather lame) make mention that the song was the
incidental music to the Scarborough Southcliff Butchers ad from pirate station
Radio 270 in the mid '60s and the copywrite info says 1966 Pye Records.  Those
are all the clues I have.

Thanks,
- -Leroy G. Biv


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:33:36 +0000
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) EBAY

Otto noted:

>>Anyone who is registered with eBay, can request the email address of any
>>bidder, and each item auctioned has a bid history.
>
>correct, that's why some of the seller actually have different EMAIL accounts

Yes, anyone can get multiple email accounts, but each will have to have a
separate bidder name on eBay, and thus separate feedbacks.    Granted, it is
possible to massage feedback, but if someone leaves a negative feedback
message, that shows up in a summary you see when you check out that
person's feedback.

Hugh


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:52:19 -0800
From: phix <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) EBAY (esp. tiki mugs)

here's my take on the ebay high-price phenomenon.

basically it's an optimal formula and format for driving the prices up.
it has alot to do with psychology and a kind of fetishism in a way. it
starts, of course, with the auction format, which naturally will drive
any price up because of the competitive aspect and the snowball effect
it has on a price. the more people that bid on something, the more the
perceived value goes up, and the higher the price ends up being.

but this is only part of the equation.

in my reckoning, i've noticed that browsing for items on ebay is
distinctly different than browing for items at say an antique store or
garage sale. if i see something i like at a store, i can usually satisfy
my initial fascination with the item by simply picking it up and
examining it first hand. the fact that the item is "real" to me in this
setting takes away most of the mystique associated with it, and after
this crucial aspect is gone, i'm probably much less likely to buy it or
pay alot for it. on ebay, however, the most you're presented with is a
picture of the item, which only serves to whet your appetite about the
potential of the item. like i said- it can almost be like a fetishistic
thing. (i read a couple posts here from people who have started
collecting photos from ebay.) often when i see something that interests
me on ebay, i'll end up paying a premium for it just to complete my
engagement with the item. it's like dangling a carrot in front of a
horse. of course, often i'll receive an item and find myself examining
it just about as much as i might have done if i had seen it in a store.
then it goes on the shelf and i don't pay much attention to it anymore.
in other words, if i had seen and explored the item in a store in the
first place, i may never have felt the need to actually buy it and own
it.

anyway i have no problem with ebay prices in general because it's the
people who vote for the value of an item. if someone has something
starting off at a crazy price, i just don't bid. as a seller, that's a
bad strategy, because you're not giving the buyer the perceived power of
setting his own price for the item. usually i've had better luck
starting an item off at a very low price, with no reserve, than i have
had with starting it off at what i thought was the amount i'd like to
get.

all in all i think it's an amazing study in group psychology.

- -pea


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