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exotica-digest         Thursday, May 21 1998         Volume 02 : Number 114



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
Re: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases
(exotica) Soul Bossa/Sprite Ad
Re: (exotica) Net radio
(exotica) raga-pop record
(exotica) AFRO-COOL
RE: (exotica) 78s
(exotica) Images, fantasies, and music
[Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s]
Re: (exotica) raga-pop record
RE: (exotica) 78s
Re: (exotica) Do any of you know ...
(exotica) cleaning 78s (long)
(exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD
RE: [Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s]
(exotica) Re: 3 Motor Music releases
(exotica) Re: Arthur Lyman's "Yellow Bird"
(exotica) Tiki beach ??
(exotica) Is Sinatra exotic?  A definitive answer
(exotica) mildews and don'ts
(exotica) cover cleaning
Re:  RE: (exotica) 78s
(exotica) a coupla tings
Re: (exotica) Godzilla

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:21:08 -0800
From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

>Is Sinatra exotic?.... in the sense of Martin Denny, Baxter, Peter Thomas,
>Yma Sumac, ... no.  But in the sense of Scott Walker, Serge Gainsbourg,
>Elvis, etc. yes.

solid distinction/analogy for my money there.

>The Sinatra image is exotica, in that he was an image before being a man.
>The hard-drinking, swinging, hedonistic, devil-may-care, bar singer.  And
>besides he was surrounded by Exotica during his Capital years, no?  Martin
>Denny was part of the capital gang (am I correct?), Yma Sumac, etc.

denny was on liberty for the most part, which became part of capitol much
later.  but sinatra did have les baxter record (non exclusively) for reprise
from the start.  so there were connections of some degree.

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:40:36 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

At 11:17 AM 20/05/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote:
>
>>If someone said to me, "I like exotica. I've got the Beach Boys." Well, I'd
>wonder a bit. But if someone into exotica mentioned how much they liked the
>Beach Boys, I'd know immediately what they were talking about. Your
comments just kinda seemed like since you don't particularly see the exotic
side of this band

Okay, this is the last response, even if I do get flamed.  I know this is
getting tired.  Already has for most, I'm sure.
BUT what you said there about "I like exotica, I've got the Beach Boys",
that was all I was saying.  I didn't say that if someone included Beach
Boys in exotica, I would think they missed the point.  I said that if their
exotica collection consisted of mostly or only Beach Boys records, I would
think that
I would also think something if their exotica collection consisted of ONLY
Martin Denny records but I wouldn't say to them "Uh sorry but I don't think
that's really exotica".  Which I WOULD say about the Beach Boys, no matter
how many tracks of theirs might qualify.
If someone wants to say that there are elements of progressive jazz or
classical music in Zappa, I wouldn't argue but I still wouldn't expect them
to put the Mothers albums in with the progressive jazz.  And if they did
and especially if they had nothing that I called progressive jazz, I'd say
yeah they missed the point.
If someone here wants to discuss the Beach Boys or Bread or Uriah Heep, go
right ahead.  I'd rather talk about Curtis Mayfield than a whole lot of
stuff that gets discussed here. I just react when someone seems to protest
a little too much trying to justify that whatever they're talking about
qualifies as "exotica".
I'm no purist and I know that exotica is a very elastic and wide term,
especially as used on this list, including as it does "lounge" and "easy
listening" etc but I do think that you could stretch the elastic to the
point that it would have no meaning at all.
Like the word "alternative".  Or "jazz" or "rock n roll".  Look at some of
the stuff the Columbia record club calls "alternative".

.am I right to assume that you probably wouldn't buy their stuff -
>note: I didn't say "dislike them", I just said you wouldn't buy their
>stuff..)

Yes.  Although I did love Surf's Up at the time and I have picked up a
couple of old collections at the Goodwill.  (So I guess I lied.)  But no, I
wouldn't pay real money for them.

> And I think there are plenty of people out there who could
>understand their relevance in briefly discussing them from time to time on
>the list.

What I find interesting about a lot of the people here on the list is how
wide their taste is.  I would find it interesting to hear their stories of
how they made the journey towards exotica, lounge etc.  What was the music
that led them "here".
I could see someone saying that in retrospect, they realize that the Beach
Boys were one of the influences that led them here. This track or that
track especially.  But that doesn't mean that I think that the music that
led them here is, in itself, exotica.

 Much like Sinatra. He's seen as easy or lounge, which a lot of
>exotica gets classified as. I don't see him as "exotic" although he probably
>has the odd track that is.

We agree.

>It just seems that you took offense when someone questioned why there was so
>much Sinatra talk and to try to justify your point, you started pointing out
>how un-exotic the Beach Boys were.

No.  I posted about Sinatra only because I needed to let off some steam
over the tributes that were pouring in.  I now realize how immature that
was.  Let people say goodbye to their heroes.   Wait till he's at least
buried before you start slagging him... as you've been doing your whole
life.  As I've been doing...
But I can see how you were confused in all that pro and anti-Frank flurry.
I'm sure I was justifying some point or other when I brought up the Beach
Boys but it wasn't to defend Frank, that's for sure.  Or justify him as
exotica.
I think I just threw in the Beach Boys because I hadn't had an opportunity
to whine in previous posts.

> And then it was
>discussed about their cancellation of working with The High Llamas, a band
>that is quite commonly considered as modern exotica.

Yeah, you see.  There you go again.  "Modern exotica"?  Can't you just say
that the people in the band are probably influenced by exotica?  That
people who like exotica may find something to like in this band?
Does everything have to be cross-categorized?
I love the High Llamas and I'm not surprised that some people here also do
and there's no doubt a connection to exotica but... I don't know.
This is a pretty small point I admit but I guess I'm passionate about those
small points.
I love the Tindersticks and I think they might be influenced by Serge
Gainsbourg and I might even bring them up here some time but I just don't
see the point of saying "Yeah and they really are an exotica band".

>So I think it is relevant to give them the odd nod. And there were only a
>handful of postings about them anyway.

Like I said, I don't mind the odd or the even postings.  I just react to
the justifications.

Maybe this won't be the last posting on this subject but I'm going to try
and be finished with it myself.

Nat




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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:40:34 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

At 06:02 PM 20/05/98 -0500, Hess Jeffery wrote:
>
>Good points indeed. Maybe I'm a purist, but when I evaluate an artist,
>the music comes first and the other stuff is merely incidental such as
>image, folklore, politics and such.

Yes I'm sure it is easier to ignore all the other stuff if you weren't
around when it came out but in general, I don't believe there is such a
thing JUST the music.  I don't think the music is separable from the image.
 Especially with Frank.  You bought the record, you bought the image, the
attitude, the fantasy etc etc.
I think that the only music that might possibly be pure and unencumbered
with image or attitude is the sound of the wind rustling through the trees
and even that is tied up with all kinds of imagery for me.

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:39:44 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases

At 22:16 20/05/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>The Maurice Pop disc is great; it's that uptempo, horn driven late 60's
>>'Sound Gallery' style of Discotheque a Go-Go. Highly recommended if you
>>like that style.
>Any idea where we could find this? Is this the same Motor that Andreas
>Dorau is on?

Yes, it is.

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:32:18 PDT
From: "keir keightley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soul Bossa/Sprite Ad

Q's version of "Soul Bossa Nova" was for many years (1970s) the theme to
a popular Canadian daytime quiz show called _Definition_.  Dream
Warriors, being from Toronto, no doubt picked up on the Q vibe from
watching TV as kids - the tip off is in the repeated phrase "my
definition" in "My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style".

On a related note:  has anyone seen this amazing Sprite commercial with
sort of "Soul Bossa Nova"-y music?  It has a woman who looks like George
Costanza's mother washing clothes in a bowl of Sprite and a bowl of some
other uncola;  at the end, she drinks the Sprite bowl.  The music is
fabulous mid-60s easy - anyone recognize it? (I've seen it both on UK
and on Canadian TV).

     From BossaNovaVille,
     Keir

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:35:47 +0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Net radio

Charles Moseley wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a radio station with internet access that plays
>records that would appeal to Exotica subscribers and plays during
>the daytime (UK daytime)?

Well, there's a nice set from DJ Vishnu playing around the clock on:

http://www.netradio.com/

Go to "Cafe Jazz" and select "Lounge" from the drop down menu.
You'll need Real Player to hear it.


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:41:34 -0400
From: "Jody, Ruth and Michael Rosen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) raga-pop record

About a year ago, I found a record in my college radio station's vinyl
library. It was a late '60s recording of raga versions of "pop" songs of
the time (sorta like "The Plastic Cow Goes Moog", only more, uh, sacred),
and it featured a sitar n' tabla (etc.) arrangement of "Norwegian Wood".

Can anybody tell me the title and artist of this LP? I'd like to use it to
thumb my nose at all those folks who think Cornershop are so clever...

- --Jody Rosen


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:03:31 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) AFRO-COOL

Has anyone heard of this lp on GNP records? Musicians include Conte
Candoli and Machito's Rhythm Section (Don't have the cover in front of
me, so excuse omissions/mutilations). The cover is classic Exotica - a
not overly-clad nymph inside a flaming ice cube. I ask because I bought
the thing and, trusting natural that I am, neglected to inspect the
interior. I was very bummed. Not a big loss costwise, but what about
those sounds I may never hear?

Ben Waugh

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:00:13 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) 78s

> again how best to give these discs a cleaning.
>
>
>
What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM:

If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol (grain, rubbing, cheap vodka) with 2
parts distilled or filtered water.  Pour it over the vinyl and wipe
circularly with a VERY soft non-paper cloth with no chemicals on it.  (the
towel that has been washed with fabric softener is no good, use a new one or
one washed in just soap and water).

Let this dry, then drag a good old discwasher with some D4 across it for 3-5
revolutions and you are set. The discwasher is still the best "finishing"
record cleaner known to mankind, since it is the only thing that gets INTO
the grooves without damaging them severely.

Would the other DJs on the list agree?

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:51:41 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: (exotica) Images, fantasies, and music

Nat writes:
>Yes I'm sure it is easier to ignore all the other stuff if you weren't
>around when it came out but in general, I don't believe there is such
>a thing JUST the music.  I don't think the music is separable from the
>image. Especially with Frank.  You bought the record, you bought the
>image, the attitude, the fantasy etc etc.  I think that the only music
that >might possibly be pure and unencumbered with image or attitude is
>the sound of the wind rustling through the trees and even that is tied
>up with all kinds of imagery for me.


Don't get me wrong, I pick up on all the imagery and fantasy.  My point
is that some people will dismiss something solely on image w/out picking
up on the art/music first.  It's the art/music that conjures up all the
images in the first place.  Some people get it backwards that's all.

Jeff

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:58:43 +0100
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s]

>
> > again how best to give these discs a cleaning.
> >
> >
> >
> What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM:
>
> If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol (grain, rubbing, cheap vodka) with 2
> parts distilled or filtered water.  Pour it over the vinyl and wipe
> circularly with a VERY soft non-paper cloth with no chemicals on it.  (the
> towel that has been washed with fabric softener is no good, use a new one or
> one washed in just soap and water).
>

I believe this is very, VERY bad advice as concerns SHELLAC
78s. Because shellac supposedly dissolves in alcohol.



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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:45:11 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) raga-pop record

At 8:41 AM -0400 5/21/98, Jody, Ruth and Michael Rosen wrote:

>About a year ago, I found a record in my college radio station's vinyl
>library. It was a late '60s recording of raga versions of "pop" songs of
>the time (sorta like "The Plastic Cow Goes Moog", only more, uh, sacred),
>and it featured a sitar n' tabla (etc.) arrangement of "Norwegian Wood".
>
>Can anybody tell me the title and artist of this LP? I'd like to use it to
>thumb my nose at all those folks who think Cornershop are so clever...

It's "Raga Rock" by The Folkswingers, World Pacific Records, 1967

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:59:29 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) 78s

At 11:00 AM -0400 5/21/98, Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD wrote:

>What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM:
>
>If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol........

Don't use alcohol on shellac 78's!!

The best bet is Ivory Soap or another mild dishwashing soap. Special 78
brushes are available from sources like "78 Quarterly" magazine; they're
designed to get into the deeper grooves. If you don't have a brush, just
let them soak a bit and use a sponge. Put them in the dish rack to dry.

The alcohol/water mix described is perfect for vinyl records.

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 04:09:07 -0400
From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Do any of you know ...

>Vik Trola <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>there is a song by the dream warriors
                   >snip<
>>and i was wondering if anyone happens to know
>>a. what i'm talking about
>>and
>>b. what they are sampling.
>
>a. yes
>b. Quincy Jones "Soul Bossa Nova" which now has the
>infamy of being the opening music to the dreadfully unfunny
>Austin Powers...

And ever since that movie came out, I've had people tell me "Hey,
they used your theme song in Austin Powers!" Oh well, at least
that proves that people *do* listen to my radio show. "Soul Bossa
Nova" can be easily obtained on either the Austin Powers sound-
track or the Cocktail Mix Vol.2 compilation, both currently in print
on CD.

Incidentally, the Dream Warriors song is how I heard "Soul Bossa
Nova" originally, too.


Peter
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:23:28 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) cleaning 78s (long)

At 06:31 PM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I just came into a slew of 78s from the 1940s and early '50s. I'm pretty
>sure it's been addressed on the list before but I hope you'll indulge me
>as I ask again how best to give these discs a cleaning.
>Anyone have expertise in this area?
>Brett

The important thing to determine is whether your 78s are shellac or vinyl.
Under *no* circumstance should you use alcohol on shellac. There is a
current school of thought that also advises against alcohol for vinyl
cleaning, as it is thought that alcohol will leech out the stabilizers.

I recommend you visit the following site:

The Care and Handling of Recorded Sound Materials
By Gilles St-Laurent
Music Division
National Library Of Canada January 1996
<http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byauth/st-laurent/care.html>

Here's an excerpt of the Cleaning section from the above page:

Since dust is usually held in place by electrostatic attraction, dry wiping
on its own does not work effectively. The added friction created by the
duster will cause the dust to jump back to the charged surface.=20

Distilled water is used for cleaning records and CDs for many reasons. Its
precise chemical makeup is known, it will not leave any residue behind, is
safe to use, and is inexpensive. Water disperses static charges and
counteracts the increase in conductivity from the pick-up of salt deposits
from finger prints. However, water alone cannot dissolve grease, thus
surfactants are used as additives to enable water to be a grease solvent.
Surfactants break grease surface bonds and allow water to penetrate grease
solids, causing swelling and then random dispersion.=20

General

=95The Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) recommends the use of nonionic,
ethelyne oxide condensates surfactants to clean sound recordings. The CCI
does not foresee long-term problems associated with the use of nonionic
surfactants such as Tergitol. Tergitol 15-S-3 is an oil soluble surfactant
and 15-S-9 is a water soluble surfactant. Combined they remove a wide range
of dirt and greases and can safely be used on sound recordings. Use 0.25
part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of
distilled water. (These products are available in small quantities from
TALAS (Division of Technical Library Service Inc) 213 West 35th Street, New
York, N.Y. [phone].) The recording must then be rinsed thoroughly
with distilled water to eliminate any trace of detergent residue. =95Keep an
airgun handy to blow off light surface dust.=20

Grooved discs
=95Grooved discs are best cleaned using a record cleaning machine such as=
 the
Keith Monks, VPI, Nitty Gritty using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25
parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water. These machines
allow for an even dispersion of fluid and can then vacuum the liquid leaving
a clean, dry surface. The discs must then be rinsed thoroughly with
distilled water and vacuumed dry to eliminate any trace of detergent
residue. Records should be cleaned before each playback. =95Clean Vulcanite
discs showing signs of acid build up using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and
0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water and rinse
thoroughly. =95Clean acetate discs showing signs of palmitic acid deposits
(white greasy substance on acetate disc surface) as if cleaning LPs, except
add 1 part ammonia per 100 to the Tergitol cleaning solution. Do not use
ammonia on shellac based discs.=20

You may also want to visit these pages:

Disk Doctor  <http://discdoc.com>
78 Quarterly <http://www.bluesworld.com/78Q>
Wolverine Antique Music Society <http://www.teleport.com/~rfrederi>
 (be sure to go to the Links page, and look at the Collectables links)

Hope this helps.

- -Lou
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:42:09 -0700
From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD

Could I have possibly stumped the panel?  Surely some of you fine folks out
there can shed some light on my previous posting.  Here it is again:

I have a CD called "Another Crazy Cocktail Party - Shake Your Congas", on
the BMG/RCA Victor label, apparently produced through BMG Ariola Belgium,
1996 and distributed through BMG USA.  It's claim to fame is the song
"Pancho", written by David Bowie for a 1960's European TV show (or so says
a large yellow sticker on the front).  It's kinda Latinesque/cha-cha stuff.
 I have been trying to find out about the artists on the disc
(specifically, what years the songs were released), but have come up empty
handed.  And trying to get any info out of BMG is like pulling teeth.  Does
anyone know the years these songs were released, or any info on the
artists?  Here's the songlist:

1.   Los Albinos - Bing Bang Conga
2.   Ruben Calzado & Orchestra - Chiquito
3.   The Golden Dream Orchestra - When the world was mine
4.   Jo Carlier et Son Orchestre - Aquarella
5.   Jean Claude Pelletier et Son Ochestre - Loin de mes yeux pres de mon
coeur
6.   Los Albinos - Go Go Conga
7.   Jean Evans his piano & his strings - Blue Candlelight
8.   The Boxeros - Los Patatos
9.   Reg Owen & his Orchestra - Obsession
10. DeeDee & her Panchos - Pancho
11. Los Albinos - Chinese Conga
12. The Sadi Quartet - Blue Sunrise
13. The Peter Loland Orchestra - La Cucarachacha
14. Peter Krender his piano & his orchestra - Birds of paradise
15. Stan La Banm & his orchestra - A la salud
16. Los Albinos - The swinging conga
17. The Clippers - Forever
18. Willy Albimoor & his lucky 13 - Headin' north
19. Teddy Mertens his trumpet & his orchestra - Marijuana brass
20. Los Albinos - Frere Jacques conga

Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Dave


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:36:19 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s]

Woah!  Thanx Peter.  I didn't think of that.  Ouch.  I stand corrected.  It
works well for vinyl, though.  Including that funky "dynaflex" stuff from
RCA in the early 70s.

Charlieman
> > What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM:
> >
> > If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol (grain, rubbing, cheap vodka) with 2
> > parts distilled or filtered water.  Pour it over the vinyl and wipe
> > circularly with a VERY soft non-paper cloth with no chemicals on it.
> (the
> > towel that has been washed with fabric softener is no good, use a new
> one or
> > one washed in just soap and water).
> >
>
> I believe this is very, VERY bad advice as concerns SHELLAC
> 78s. Because shellac supposedly dissolves in alcohol.
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:17:51 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: 3 Motor Music releases

>From: BasicHip <[e-mail]>
>
>Has anybody heard any of these Motor Music (Germany) releases?
>1) Martin Bottcher -- Sound Kaleidoscope
>2) Gary McFarland -- Latin Lounge

    haven't heard the "pop" thing, but liked these 2 very much:

    1) rated ++++ Sophisticated, tasteful, charming, graceful,
pleasing, careful, clever EZ pop, never falling into clich=E9s or the
obvious, with a bit of bossa nova, lots of wordless vocal chorus, strings,
and even a light touch of jazz in 1 track. Reference artists: Burt
Bacharach, Francis Lai , Johnny Mandel (all 3 honoured here with cover),
Bert Kaepfert, Henry Mancini, Jobim, Stan Getz. 25 tracks in all, mostly
from film and TV soundtracks. Relevant quote from the interview text in the
booklet: "=8Ayou have to add something to a picture that is not existent yet=
,
otherwise your music is redundant")

    2) rated ++++ Excellent lounge jazz, beautigful melodies (mostly
his own compositions, wordless vocal covers of "Hard day's night",
"Satisfaction", "More", and a  Bacharach song). From the booket: "Warm and
cool, relaxing and engaging, refreshing and provocative, elegant and
casual. It's an apt description of the music of composer, arranger,
conductor, vibraphonist and hummer/whistler, Gary McFarland".

        Johan

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:10:32 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Arthur Lyman's "Yellow Bird"

>From: "Steven Peterson" <[e-mail]>
>
>Has anyone ever heard Arthur Lyman's album, " Yellow Bird "?   It's
>supposed to released June 8 on cd.

    i liked it as much as his "taboo" and "taboo 2" albums, if that is
    any reference for you; have to add that i'm a huge fan of lyman!

        Johan

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:26:33 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG  NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki beach ??

Does anyone know of ANY tiki type bars/lounges/clubs in

Wildwood, NJ?

Please somebody tell me there is....

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:08:38 +0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Is Sinatra exotic?  A definitive answer

Ron Grandia wrote:

>I tend to believe this list uses the term "exotica" in the
>absence of a better expression. No single word is going to
>hit the idea squarely, so exotica will have to do.

I agree whole-heartedly with this.  I've always seen this list as a
place where innumerable genres all intersect and join up with music
which doesn't really have an obvious "genre".

Any debate about whether so and so is or isn't "Exotica" is a waste
of time as far as I can see it because the name of this list is
basically an accident of birth.  It just happens to be the case
that is the only list of its kind and it happens to be called the
"Exotica" list.  I personally think that this name has long since
ceased to be a particularly relevant description of the contents
(just how much is there to say about Arthur Lyman anyway?!) as the
genres covered by it have become more and more numerous.

There is, nevertheless, a fuzzy sort of boundary to the kind of music
I would expect to read about on this list and I would start to get a
little restless if too much time were spent discussing the merits or
otherwise of, say, the latest Celine Dion album...

But so long as the topics range freely from the easiest of easy
listening to the spaced out extremities of some new piece
of electronica I'll continue to be a happy subscriber.

So the definitive answer is: quit bickering!


Robbie

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:44:38 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mildews and don'ts

Regarding my search for a fix for mildew (mold) on record covers, I got some
advice from someone who works in art restoration. Quote:

"Anyway, here's what I suggest: Lightly and carefully wipe off all of the
visible mold spores with a damp rag or paper towel. Then, what we use at work
to kill mold is something called Thymol. I don't know where you would be able
to get that, but believe it or not Thymol is the main ingredient in Listerine.
You could try wetting a rag with a little bit of Listerine and then wipe a
SMALL section of a cover and record to make sure no damage is inflicted by any
of the other ingredients. It should dry fairly quickly. Then I would suggest
leaving the covers (not the vinyl for obvious reasons) in the sun for a bit
'cause that will also kill the mold spores. Not for too long though, keep an
eye on them, because the sun could fade the colors on the covers. If you're not
into experimenting with the Listerine then I would just try the sun."

I've gotten to experiment with this a bit, and it is helpful. I used plain,
unflavored Listerine (avoiding any flavoring that might lead to stickiness). I
basically followed the outlined procedure. The initial cleanup with a towel
dampened with water is very key -- it got a lot of slime and grime off. I'm not
sure how much more the Listerine accomplishes, but I imagine it should kill
anything that's left. And I didn't notice any problems with coloration or
ink-bleeding. With the water OR the Listerine, it is a bit tricky (for me at
least) to hit the right balance of 'wet enough' / 'too wet'. Be careful there.
It would be a good idea to practice on reject covers first, until you get a
feel for it. You don't want the cover to get too damp, or it'll curl or ripple.
I put them in the sun between stages, actually, as well as the finishing step.

As far as the results, they look a lot better. They still smell a bit, but at
least they've gone from "fetid tomb breath" to "cabin in the woods." You can
also try this on the inner sleeves, but being thinner paper, the moisture is a
LOT more risky. And I can't see a very safe way of getting at the interior of
the covers (or inner sleeves). It would be pretty easy to bust the seams poking
around in there. Maybe just sit and hold them open to the sun? (just imagine
what the neighbors will mutter about you)

For the records themselves, I used the time honored 2 parts distilled water / 1
part denatured alcohol recipe, applied with a t-shirt. It pretty effectively
removed the brown mold patches, and I would imagine the alcohol would also kill
it. It may have left a bit of residue, but that might have been my own
ineptitude.

So, I hope this is helpful to anyone out there with some really stinky covers.
Just take your time and do your experimenting on non-crucial pieces.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:11:40 -0700
From: Clark Scheffy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) cover cleaning

Another cover cleaning-related tip:

Use Naptha (like Zippo lighter fluid) to remove all kinds of things... the
gummy crap from price stickers, and on glossy or semi-glossy covers, it'll
even remove permanent and ballpoint pen!

Naptha is (was?) used as a drycleaning solution, and though it appears to
discolor the cover when you  use it, it dries up nice and clear and clean.
I suggest being careful with rubbing too much when the cover is wet with
Naptha, so you don't start to remove the cover graphic (especially on matte
covers), but otherwise, you can pretty well douse a spot on a cover with
naptha and have no problems. As far as I can tell, naptha isn't fatal to
vinyl, but removing the LP before cleaning the cover is well-advised anyway.

To remove sticker gum, I pour a small puddle around the sticker to soak it
a bit -- you can tell when it's ready because the sticker will become
translucent -- then peel up the corner of the sticker. I then take a
naptha-soaked swab (e.g., a q-tip) and wipe along the underside of the
sticker as I peel it away. This pulls the sticker off cleanly without
removing cover art. You can then take a rag damp with more naptha and wipe
the remaining residue.

I've had great success with restoring written-on glossy covers to the point
where you can't see any remnant of the writing. I've also nicely removed
price stickers from many a record cover this way.

Then, throw all your naptha-soaked rags in a tin pail and toss your
cigarette butt in there. Cool!

I credit Saturn Records for this tip.

Clark




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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:44:38 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  RE: (exotica) 78s

I still believe strongly in dish detergent,  the soft side of a scrunge,
PLENTY of detergent in the mix----and a thorough rinsing of course...A clean
slice of vinyl requires over a gallon of warm water to rinse properly in my
experience and I've washed over 5000 45's....Jimmy Botticelli


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:54:48 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) a coupla tings

Those who are fans of "Stroboscopia" will be happy to hear that "I Gres" is
out on both vinyl and CD. It is largely a breakdown of Stroboscopia types into
finer delineations (sp?)...I dotted 8 songs as excellent on the CD, all in the
E-Z funk/bossa/ and ballad realms........Congratulations to "Lounge" Laura and
her band "Astroslut who have just released a 5-song CD sample of their
work.........."Jimmy's Easy" has moved from Saturdays at 6am to Tuesdays at
6am on 88.1 FM, WMBR, Cambridge, MA at MIT (the "punks" still get prime
time)...Spanks for the space, Jimmy


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:10:30 -0700
From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Godzilla

The Best of Godzilla 1954-1975, it's a nice collection of mostly serious
sounding, orchestral soundtrack music with a few sound effects (e.g.,
ponderous footsteps) and Japanese-language vocals thrown in.  "Mothra" song
is absolutely great.  Not campy like you might expect given the title.
It's not a really a disk I listen to start-to-finish, but it's in my
CD-Jukebox for shuffle-play.  (Anyone else have a Jukebox?  They're great
and not that expensive.)

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> From: Kirsten Whitley <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) Godzilla

> I just saw this ad in Collectors' Choice.  Can anyone comment on
 The Best of Godzilla 1954-1975


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