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exotica-digest         Saturday, May 23 1998         Volume 02 : Number 115



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) You're soaking in it (was)78s
Re: (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD
(exotica) Its Gettin Too Weird - Como, Cleo, Mick & Claudine
(exotica) Looking for Jimmy B
(exotica) That's Life
(exotica) High Llamas/Beach Boys [was Re: The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?]
(exotica) Sinatra piece by Sidney Zion
Re: (exotica) Barbarella Reissue
(exotica) Ethel Smith.  That was no lady...
(exotica) Re: Soul Bossa/Sprite Ad
Re: (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD
(exotica) another theremin invasion
(exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?
(exotica) Music fiction/Lewis Shiner
Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?
(exotica) fwd: RIAA vs. MPEG-3
(exotica) a coupla tings
(exotica) Re:  a coupla tings
(exotica) Paradise Moods
Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?
(exotica) Re:  CD - Another Crazy Cocktail Party
(exotica) Re: cleaning 78s
[none]
Re: (exotica) High Llamas/Beach Boys [was Re: The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?]
Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?
Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?
Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?
Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...
(exotica) brian and cheryl
(exotica) WARNING: BLUE MATERIAL

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:16:52 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
Subject: Re: (exotica) You're soaking in it (was)78s

Jimmy:
>I still believe strongly in dish detergent,

Do you have a favorite brand or does it matter?  I usually use Dawn for
every record format and it seems to work for me.

Jeff


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Date: Thu, 21 May 98 22:27:06 -0500
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD

>I have a CD called "Another Crazy Cocktail Party - Shake Your Congas", on
>the BMG/RCA Victor label, apparently produced through BMG Ariola Belgium,
>1996 and distributed through BMG USA.

I have this colection and I'm guessing that all or most of the stuff is
by European artists. I'm going on the relatively obscure performers.
Also, the sound of the production and arrangements sound very late 60's
Euro. Maybe it is a bunch of Belgians trying their hand at some latin
schmaltz.

I thank you for having me listen to this a second time, I kind of wrote
it off the first time I listened to it, it's not essential stuff but
there are some subtle and intriguing tunes.

>2.   Ruben Calzado & Orchestra - Chiquito
This was written by my main man Ray Martin, even though a Martin
arrangement would have blown this version out of the water.

>3.   The Golden Dream Orchestra - When the world was mine
This is a truely gorgeous tune.

Anyhow just thought I'd give some response your request for info even
though I could only take a wild stab in the dark.

Frank

My Vinyl Recliner - Music from the in-seam of the 50's and 60's



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:13:57 EDT
From: Jbtwist <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Its Gettin Too Weird - Como, Cleo, Mick & Claudine

Stuff I stumbled over in the last few days:

1. In the booklet to to the superb Volume 2 of his Duke recordings, Bobby
"Blue" Bland cites Tony Bennett and Perry Como as influences.  Can you hear
Mr. C doing a medley of "Blind Man/Turn On Your Lovelight?"  Maybe Bobby was
thinking of Perry's very deep-voiced TV announcer Frank Gallup (showing my age
here.)

2. This weeks Cher tribute to Sonny was entertaining, tho Cher's facial
surgery makes her look like she's in costume for "Planet of the Anorexic
Apes."   Nevertheless, during the program they flashed a closeup of a 45 RPM
single of "Love is Strange" the first record made when S & C were known as
Ceasar and Cleo. Listed as writer of the song on the label was ETHEL SMITH !!!
A web search produced no results, but an Everly Brothers CD with this song
list the writers as E. Smith/M. Baker/Robinson. Mickey Baker of course. Go
Ethel!!!!

3. A song by the Rolling Stones called "Claudine" showed up in the mp3
newsgroup over the weekend. I'd never heard of this rarity, but it's about
Claudine Longet.  The chorus is mainly "Claudine's back in jail again" with
lyrics like "now only Spider knows for sure, but he aint talkin bout it
anymore," and "don't get trigger happy with me Claudine."  I did a web search
and found this song mentioned some place that sells live Stones boot tapes.
Last verse:
"I've threatened my wife now with a gun, but always left the safety on,
I recommend it, Claudine...
She's pistol-whipped me once or twice, but never tried to take my life,
Whattaya think of that, Claudine ?"

Wonder if this tune is on any jukeboxes in Branson?

JB


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 21:24:46 -0700
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Looking for Jimmy B

Jim,

Get ahold of me, will ya ?

Thanks and sorry to everyone else

Jaaaaaaaaaaaaack



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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:20:58 -0800
From: Thom Heileson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) That's Life

>From: [e-mail] (Hess Jeffery)
>
>I'm getting a feeling (correct me if I'm wrong) that some of the
>anti-Frank sentiment on this list is coming more from politics rather
>than true talent.  Both my parents and grandparents disliked Sinatra
for
>totally non-musical reasons (which makes me kind of a blacksheep).  My
>Grandma because of his "infidelity" and my grandpa because he stayed
home
>while he was in Europe fighting the Jerrys.  Even I was a Frank-hater
in
>my punk teens.  Some people say he was too slick. He was beyond just
>"slick", he was the standard everyone aspired to.  Everytime I listen
to
>him, all those stories I've heard about him being a jerk or whatever,
go
>right out the window.  I'm 28 now, and I'm so glad I had the
wherewithal
>to come around to such great talent.

I have gone through a somewhat similar experience with Blue Eyes... when
I was younger I used to dis him cos of the mob-ties, whiteness
culture-wise, mainstream qualitites I perceived (it should be noted that
I was in a post-punk teen phase around this time)... and over the years
I've come to realize that Siniatra is such a huge icon, so perfect at
what he does/did, that he is, in a sense, beyond good or bad (Thus
Crooned Zarathustra), but simply great, a living phenomenon. His
perfectness - at certain things - really hit home with me when, a couple
weeks ago, I happened upon a late 60s Sinatra TV program on PBS; when I
found this, Frankie was sitting nonchalently across from Tom Jobim (a
big music hero o mine), singing to Jobim's strumming/backup with just
the ideal balance between casualness and gusto. Maybe ya had to 'be
there'... he rounded out the show with That's Life, and a week or so
later exited stage right.

Hope this doesn't sound too sentimental... I think I may have left my
point behind, which is simply that musical genius can often have little
to do with specifics of a person, and more to do with how the phenomenon
as a whole shapes up. As illustrated in Deconstructing Harry, a great
artist does not a great person necessarily make.

I saw another old FS TV show the other night, and betweeen songs Frank
had a short comedic monologue: "You know, music isn't my only
interest... I'm also passionately interested in culture, the arts,
philosophy... (then, in a Rochester voice) Well noaw that don' sound
like me at awll!" Which I though was kinda an odd thing to boast about -
but at least he was honest!

Thom

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 02:24:03 -0400
From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) High Llamas/Beach Boys [was Re: The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?]

Nat Kone <[e-mail]> wrote, "I wouldn't pay
real money for them," regarding Beach Boys albums, but
then in the same message he proclaims, "I love the High
Llamas." This strikes me as a bit incongruous since the
High Llamas records that I've heard positively *scream*
Beach Boys (circa Pet Sounds). You didn't say, Nat, but
I wonder if you're familiar with any of their later records, or
just the hits?

Different strokes for different folks, I suppose; I absolutely
love the Beach Boys (from their early records on) yet the
High Llamas don't really do anything for me. Like Dad
used to say: "That's what makes horse races."


Peter
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 23:39:14 -0800
From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sinatra piece by Sidney Zion

monday's piece by Sidney Zion.....

                               Frank Sinatra,
                               Great Raconteur
                               And a Great Friend

                               One long night ago night in the backroom of
P.J.
                               Clarke's, I asked Sinatra what he missed
most
                               by being Frank Sinatra. He dragged a
                               Camel, sipped the Jack Daniel's and
                               said: "The bars."

                               They wouldn't let him hang the bars;
                               the bores and the boors and the
                               broads would be on him. No way to stand up
and
                               do what he loved to do most -- drink and tal=
k
to
                               pals and carry on till the sun came up.

                               "It's a big price to pay," I said.

                               Sinatra turned the blue rays on me, the eyes
saying if
                               you think I'm kidding, you're gone,
buddy.
When he
                               knew I was serious, it was the beginning of
a great
                               friendship.

                               "You're the first Jew since Toots Shor to
understand
                               this," he said. "Anytime you want somebody's
legs
                               broken, call me."

                               Woulda coulda shoulda -- there were plenty o=
f
legs
                               I wanted broken in the years I hung out with
Frank
                               Sinatra. But I guess I was too Jewish to
call the
                               marker. Instead, I enjoyed him. Others may
talk
                               about his voice and his place in the
pantheon of
                               entertainers. I remember Frank as the best
raconteur
                               I ever knew.

                               After a pizza dinner at Rocky Lee's, he
asked me
                               where we should have nightcaps. I said the
Players
                               Club. Frank was a Player. He said, "Great."

                               It was a Thursday night, when usually the
Players
                               was crowded. But this night nobody was
there. We
                               hung the bar. I was embarrassed that we were
alone.
                               Eventually, a few poker players dropped down
from
                               upstairs, the word had gotten out that
Sinatra was on
                               the premises.

                               Ken Roberts, the father of Tony, walked up
behind
                               Sinatra and intoned: "From Frank Dailey's
                               Meadowbrook on the Pompton Turnpike, ladies
and
                               gentlemen . . . Frank Sinatra!"

                               Without looking back, Sinatra said: "Kenny,
you old
                               sonofabitch." They embraced, these two guys
who
                               hadn't seen each other in 40 years -- not
since
                               Roberts announced Sinatra at the Jersey
nightclub.

                               There followed two hours of Sinatra
soliloquy,
                               complete with a history of his big-band
days, from
                               Harry James to Tommy Dorsey.

                               An Insomniac Reader

                               He lived spectacularly in the worlds of
politics,
                               movies and money moguls. His formal
education
                               died before high school, but he read
voraciously.

                               "I can't sleep more than two hours at a
time," he told
                               me, "So I pick up books in between." The
insomnia
                               helped him overcome an inferiority complex
on
                               schooling. And turned him into a virtual
encyclopedia
                               on our times.

                               When my daughter Libby died at the hands of
                               doctors in New York Hospital in 1984, Frank
                               invited my wife and me to '21.' When Elsa
went to
                               the ladies' room, he said: "You're coming to
Palm
                               Springs with me." I told him, "No chance."

                               He said, "You need this, and I don't want
you to say
                               a word to Elsa until you're home. If she
refuses, tell
                               her that I'll be at your apartment tomorrow,
and I will
                               lay all my blue-eye charm on her."

                               We went, and it helped to save us. A year
later, I
                               asked Sinatra to appear at Yale to do a
lecture in
                               Libby's memory.

                               "Book it!" he said. The result was a deep
interview
                               between Sinatra and me covering his career,
                               including all the Mafia allegations against
him.

                               This interview, on tape, proves what I said
before:
                               Frank Sinatra is a great raconteur. It's as
if you could
                               be with him and me at Jilly's.

                               The last time I was with him alone for hours
was in
                               Athens a few years ago. The promoters booked
him
                               into a coliseum the size of Rome. He drew
30,000
                               people and sang his heart out for 100
minutes.

                               After the show, we hung out. Near dawn, one
of his
                               people tried to get him to sleep.

                               "What?" he said. "It's the shank of the
night! Bring
                               more bottles."

                               If there's a heaven, the drinks are on Frank
Sinatra.


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:22:15 EDT
From: LTepedino <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella Reissue

In a message dated 98-05-19 14:04:04 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< Just seen this is available:

 > O.S.T - BARBARELLA
 > DY31908 Dynovoice LP
 > clear red vinyl and comes with a baby poster.

 So is this the long awaited *legit* reissue?
  >>
BOOTLEG,,,Dynavoice went out of business in the late '60s/early '70s and the
rights to this release are in limbo.

Ashley


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:44:01 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ethel Smith.  That was no lady...

...at least not in this case.  As Nellie Lutcher benefited from Louis Jordan
crediting his wife (then ex-wife) for his composition of "Caldonia", Ethel
Smith benefited from her then-husband doing the same thing, I believe due to
the fact that he recorded for a label not affiliated with RCA, which Groove
was.

Therefore, this Ethel Smith is, in fact...

Bo Diddley!!

> single of "Love is Strange" the first record made when S & C were known as
> Ceasar and Cleo. Listed as writer of the song on the label was
> ETHEL SMITH !!!





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Date: Fri, 22 May 98 09:43:47 -0000
From: Q <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Soul Bossa/Sprite Ad

>Q's version of "Soul Bossa Nova" was for many years (1970s) the theme to
>a popular Canadian daytime quiz show called _Definition_.  Dream
>Warriors, being from Toronto, no doubt picked up on the Q vibe from
>watching TV as kids - the tip off is in the repeated phrase "my
>definition" in "My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style".
I'm curious, does anyone have the original Quincy Jones album with Soul
Bossa Nova (I suddenly forget the name of it).  Is the rest of it as good
as this song?  And how easy is it to find?  I absolutely love Soul Bossa
Nova - one of my all time favorites.
>
>On a related note:  has anyone seen this amazing Sprite commercial with
>sort of "Soul Bossa Nova"-y music?  It has a woman who looks like George
>Costanza's mother washing clothes in a bowl of Sprite and a bowl of some
>other uncola;  at the end, she drinks the Sprite bowl.  The music is
>fabulous mid-60s easy - anyone recognize it? (I've seen it both on UK
>and on Canadian TV).
I've seen it and also really liked the music.  I don't know it though.

Message ends,
Q


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Date: Fri, 22 May 98 15:02:37 +0100
From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD

>Maybe it is a bunch of Belgians trying their hand at some latin
>schmaltz.

Maybe but then the Chacachas weren't that bad !
One of their track ( not a latin one ) is even included
in the Boogie Nights soundtrack

Bissia at Eye Cont@ct
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remains within or behind or beyond or above his handiwork,
invisible, refined out of existence, indifferent,
paring his fingernails.

Gustave Flaubert, letter (1846).
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:12:03 -0700
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) another theremin invasion

>Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:51:04 -0700
>From: Charlie Lester <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>Organization: 137 Technologies
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: another theremin invasion
>
>For those in the L.A. area with nothing to do Saturday night, 5/23, I'll
>be playing at Moguls in Hollywood, some time around 11 p.m. (These things
>tend to be kinda loosely timetabled.)
>
>(Ross Marshall will also be playing some time that evening but I don't
>know when. You'll have to ask him.)
>
>Here's how the producer, "Rev. Al" of the Cacophony Society describes the
>gig:
>
>"It's a "Space-Age" show ... the theme made apparent with decor, props,
>screenings, costumed people mingling, a couple choreographed go-go
>numbers and THEREMIN. It's a long show beginning late afternoon, and
>there are three nights to it.  It showcases garage, rockabilly, lounge,
>and exotica musicians, some local, some local some from elsewhere on the
>west coast.  It's called "Demolition Derby."
>
>For more info you can call the Moguls or send email to "Rev. Al"
><[e-mail]>.
>
>Sorry for the short notice --- but hope some of you can make it. I'm
>gonna depart from my usual stuffed-shirt parlor-thereminist routine and
>do some really wild stuff.
>
>
>~
>~~~
>~~~~~~~
>Charlie Lester
>
>
>p.s. "wired.com" cyber mag has a nice article on the theremin, featuring
>interviews with me and a few of my thereministic cronies. See:
>
>http://www.wired.com/news/news/wiredview/story/12328.html
>
>



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:10:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?

Can anyone recommend any exotica-flavored fiction besides "The Mambo Kings
Play Songs of Love" by Oscar Hijuelos?

What have you read that stirred you?

Thanks, Mimi




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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:11:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Music fiction/Lewis Shiner

All this talk about the Beach Boys brought to mind a good book by Lewis
Shiner called "Glimpses" (Wm. Morrow, 1993/95). Its protagonist Ray is
surviving a personal crisis and barely making a living repairing stereos
when he starts to hear bits of rock music sessions that never happened--the
Doors' "Celebration of the Lizard," lost Hendrix stuff, and the Beach Boys'
"Smile" lp. Then he begins to record the music.

I recall the book as patchy but offering some real delights in its strange
story and descriptions of pop music. Beach Boys fans will probably enjoy
the portrayal of damaged sweetie pie Brian Wilson; plus, Mike Love comes
off as a vainglorious bully, for you who love to hate him. The book came
with endorsements from Paul Williams, William Gibson, and Timothy Leary,
among others.

"Glimpses" is out of print, but Amazon.com promises to search its used
bookstore network to track it down. Nor was it in stock at Powell's Books
(http://www.powells.com/), for my money the net's best source of used books.

Thought this might interest you. Jill, sorry to carry on this Beach Boys
thing. At least I'm not yammering about Frank.

Mimi





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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:06:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?

>Can anyone recommend any exotica-flavored fiction besides "The Mambo Kings
>Play Songs of Love" by Oscar Hijuelos?
>
>What have you read that stirred you?
>

Oh my god, if people on this list think that the Sinatra posings are
controversal..! I think "exotica" is gonna be much bigger.  Actually since
I am big reader I would love to hear about this also.

=46or those who are interested I am publishing a novel "Evgu=E9nie Sokolov" =
by
Serge Gainsbourg.  Hopefully the book will be finished and in my hands by
next month.

- -----------------
Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:17:49 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) fwd: RIAA vs. MPEG-3

Techweb: David and the Musical Goliath

May 12 1998: A twenty year old student is being sued to the tune of USD5
million dollars by the Recording Industry Association of America for
offering his 'song of the day' preferencs on his website.

The site offered a list of tracks in MPEG-3 format which could be freely
downloaded and this alone, according to the RIAA, infringed on the rights
of the artist.

Already this year, the RIAA has won three similar cases and threatened to
impose fines of USD1 million in damages after shutting down the sites.
Copyright law allows the RIAA to seek up to USD100,000 in damages per
violation.

Quoting from a recent Press Release: "Our message is simple: No one is off
the RIAA's radar screen. Regardless of how large or small your site,
whether it is 50 recordings or 1000, where you try to protect yourself with
a disclaimer, if you are distributing music without the permission of the
copyright holder, you're breaking the law".

The Association said it was no longer satisfied with merely shutting down
the offending sites but that it would also be seeking financial compensation.

<http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980511S0020>




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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:33:33 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) a coupla tings

At 08:54 PM 5/21/98 EDT, DJJimmyBee wrote:
>
>Congratulations to "Lounge" Laura and her band "Astroslut" who have just
released a 5-song CD sample of their work..........

You don't get off this easy - we demand further info, including how to order
copies.

- -Lou




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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:52:45 EDT
From: DJJimmyBee <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  a coupla tings

Lounge Laura's band "Astroslut" can be contacted for more information at
617-524-6747 regarding the CD called "Love at Zero G" It features five tracks:
"Love Theme from Astroslut", "Fresca '99", "Love at Zero G",
"Robot/Threshold", amd "The Quinn Martian Memorandum"......  Astroslut  c/0
Farmer/Taylor 148 Williams St. Jamaica Plain, MA 02130


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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:13:13 -0400
From: "deluxe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Paradise Moods

Hi

I've been a big fan of Martin Denny for about 15 years now -have almost
everything on vinyl. I was wondering if you knew of a release of "Paradise
Moods" on CD. I am very interested in getting two copies if it exists.

Thanks for your time and efforts.

Regan Wick





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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:26:10 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?

Los Pasos Perdidos (The Lost Steps)by karked Cuban author Alejo
Carpentier. The story moves from the surrealist salons of Paris to the
jungles of Venezuela. Don't recall if there is much in the way of music
involved, but exotica nonetheless. Also of interest: Kenneth Patchen's
novels (the poems tend to resemble one another after several volumes),
particularly The Journal of Albion Moonlight.

>Can anyone recommend any exotica-flavored fiction besides "The Mambo
Kings
>Play Songs of Love" by Oscar Hijuelos?
>
>What have you read that stirred you?
>
>Thanks, Mimi


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:29:08 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  CD - Another Crazy Cocktail Party

>From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>

>I have a CD called "Another Crazy Cocktail Party - Shake Your Congas", on
>the BMG/RCA Victor label, apparently produced through BMG Ariola Belgium,
>1996
> I have been trying to find out about the artists on the disc
>(specifically, what years the songs were released), but have come up empty
>handed.     <--cut-->  Does
>anyone know the years these songs were released, or any info on the
>artists?

    this track list and the one for volume 1 of this series is also
    included in a little review i once wrote, on my web site; i don't
    know the recording years either, but it sounds like 60's material to
    me. the label "ariola" is specialised in cheapo releases, hence the
    lack of details (no liner notes, and quick-made sleeve too).
    i have some of these artists on other albums and comps, but without
    further details, so i can't really help you...
    1 more thing: if you want this cd, you'd better grab it while it is
    still around, as ariola releases are always rather small pressings,
    and almost never get a second run.

        Johan

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:29:04 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: cleaning 78s

>From: Brett Leveridge <[e-mail]>
> how best to give these discs a cleaning

    don't use LP cleaning fluid! it will distroy your 78's. there's a
    special fluid for it, but you can also use distilled water with a bit
    of a mild dish washer fluid.

        Johan

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:36:11 -0500
From: "Steven Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

In  reference to Martin Denny album," Paradise Moods ",  that album isn't
on cd according to my sources.  If there is a copy of it, it would have to
be a bootleg copy.
The album it's self was released under the Liberty/Sunset label - catalog #
SUS-5102


Steve


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:19:54 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) High Llamas/Beach Boys [was Re: The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?]

At 02:24 AM 22/05/98 -0400, Peter Ledebur wrote:
>
>Nat Kone <[e-mail]> wrote, "I wouldn't pay
>real money for them," regarding Beach Boys albums, but
>then in the same message he proclaims, "I love the High
>Llamas." This strikes me as a bit incongruous since the
>High Llamas records that I've heard positively *scream*
>Beach Boys (circa Pet Sounds). You didn't say, Nat, but
>I wonder if you're familiar with any of their later records, or
>just the hits?
>
>Different strokes for different folks, I suppose;

What I'd pay real money for has nothing to do with how "good" it is but how
much I want it... which isn't the same thing.
That's my version of congruity.
I have virtually no interest in the records I grew up with or once loved.
They just hold no "ummph".  I've been there.  I only want to hear things
I've never heard or things that evoke very vague memories.
Or things I grew up with done in ways I would have shunned at the time.
I'd pay more for the Hollyridge Strings doing the Doors - which I assume is
only a fantasy record - than for any Doors record but that doesn't mean I
think it would be a better record.
The High Llamas were undoubtedly influenced by the Beach Boys but that
doesn't make them the Beach Boys.  I buy CD's now by bands who were
influenced by the Beatles but I could die happy if I never heard another
Beatles song by the Beatles.  Beatle songs by the Hollyridge Strings, now
that's another matter.  And anyway I don't really like those later Beach
Boy records as much as I sort of "respect" them.

Yours stroking himself differently,
Nat



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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:36:34 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?

At 10:10 AM 22/05/98 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote:
>
>Can anyone recommend any exotica-flavored fiction besides "The Mambo Kings
>Play Songs of Love" by Oscar Hijuelos?

I think I'm going to need some kind of parameters or definition of how one
would apply the idea of "exotica" to books before trying to answer that
question.
There's certainly tons of novels set in the period in which characters
would have been listening to this kind of music.  Does the book actually
have to refer to the music in order to be make it onto this list?
Would "Dick Contino's Blues" by James Ellroy count?
I bet that the nightclubs frequented by Dix Steele in Dorothy Hughes' book
"In a lonely place" would have had some pretty cool lounge music.
Same with the bars in "Lost Weekend".
Or by exotica fiction, do you mean books that evoke bird calls and siren
choirs? Books that sound like a theremin?
How about "Under the Volcano"?  A book that sounds like a drunken Mariachi
band.
How about "The Sheltering Sky"?
Am I missing the point?  Clue me in if you can.

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Date: Fri, 22 May 98 22:58:41 -0500
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?

>Can anyone recommend any exotica-flavored fiction


A friend of mine mentioned an autobiography by Dick Contino that he read
a while back.
It had some great descriptions of playing accordion in the lounge
circuit, along with anecdotes from Contino's amazingly colorful life.

I've only heard about this through my friend so I have no idea of its
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 23:25:54 EDT
From: Dlsmay <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica fiction/What do you like?

Well I've got a regular column in _Tiki News_ called "Tiki Noir."  In it I
find excerpts from hard boiled fiction that have tiki related scenes.  My
personal favorites are Charles Willeford's description of a fictitious San
Francisco tiki bar, The Dolphin, in his classic novel of hard-boiled
existentialism, _Pick Up_ (where a theremin is even mentioned), _The Wayward
Wahine_, and a great murder mystery short story in the collection _Seven
Deadly Slaughters_ by Richard Prather.

- --David


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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:12:38 EDT
From: LTepedino <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...

In a message dated 98-05-19 13:05:02 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< On a lighter (literally?) note there is at least one album of Sinatra's
 which I found for a friend, but it took some doing.  "Great Songs From Great
 Britain" (Reprise) was an album that he recorded with Robert Farnon that he
 was apparently so dissatisfied with he burned the masters!  Since I am no
 judge of Sinatra's material, two questions arise:

 1. Can anyone flesh out this story?
Incorrect story. The album was recorded in 1962 and released in the UK only
(no other territory until 1993 when it was rleleased on Cd as part of the
Reprise masters reissue program. It is the only Sinatra album of material that
was not recorded in the U.S. The story why this was never released, as noted
in the liner notes was 1.) that Sinatra didn't feel that he was in tip top
vocal shape after a strenous 7 week, 30 city tour, that the more "pastoral"
arrangements of these more UK oriented songs would not fit in with the at the
time, swining ring-a-ding-dinging image that he and his albums were creating
stateside. It is a fine album, not great, but still very enjoyable and
Sinatara is actually in better voice than he gave himself credit for.

 2. Did he ever do that with any other albums or records of his? >>
This was th only UK arranger he ever worked with, all the rest were from the
U.S>

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:38:51 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) brian and cheryl

Message to ALLAN formerly of Montreal, now of Guelph.
If Brian and cheryl visit you as they told me they were going to this
weekend, could you please ask them whether they're going to come pick up
their records?
Sorry everyone but today I only need the list as a people finding service.
You can understand.  I have these records to give them.  I'm sure you know
what it's like to have a couple of records sitting on a table waiting to
reach their ultimate destination.

Nat



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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:37:27 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WARNING: BLUE MATERIAL

If I can't recount this here, where can I?
It sounds like the kind of joke Rusty Warren would have told. Or maybe
Saucy Sylvia Stoun, Agent 0069, Northern Ontario's answer to Rusty Warren.
But I heard it from an oldtimer today at a garage sale.

A woman walks into a record store and asks the proprietor, "Have you got
'Two hot lips and seven kisses'?"
"No", the record store owner answers.  "But I have two hot balls and seven
inches".
"Is that a record?" the woman enquires.
"No", the owner answers, "but it's better than average".

Sorry but I don't think I've ever heard a joke - blue or not - that started
with "A woman walks into a record store" and I figured someone here might
be collecting jokes like that.

Nat



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